Any recommendations? It'll be for my XD .45 with the 4 inch barrel. I don't want anything that sticks out too far, the stubbier the better so I can still holster it in my tactical holster.

I am anti-laser so I am no help on that aspect.

Visible lasers are useless. Get a TLR-1, X200, or similar LED light.

Lasers and lights work both ways in A shoot out. They can use your light or lazer to get a bead on you.

The Streamlight TLR-2 is a light/laser combo in a relatively compact unit. No experience with one yet - but just talked a buddy out of his for cheaper than I could get a TLR-1 for - sooooo I'll keep you posted :D

Skip the laser. I love my Surefire X200B!'

Edit: it's going to be a bulky package concealed. Do you really need a freggin' laser/light on your CCW gun??

Speaking of lights (no FREAKIN LAZERS) does anyone have any recomendations for a light around $100? I'm looking for something good and bright to slap on the AR15 for shooting hogs and rabbits at night.

There is no Z in laser you illiterate fucks.

There is no Z in laser you illiterate fucks.

I spelled it right! Fuck!! :flipoff2:

Afro - TLR-1's are about $100 and I've NEVER heard anything bad about them.

Speaking of lights (no FREAKIN LAZERS) does anyone have any recomendations for a light around $100? I'm looking for something good and bright to slap on the AR15 for shooting hogs and rabbits at night.

any assorted surefire flashlights and a mount to go with it. how far out you shooting?

There is no Z in laser you illiterate fucks.
hater :flipoff2:

These LaserMax lasers are cool. I have one in my Glock, nothing oin the outside. Totally internal. http://www.lasermax.com/

I KNOW i know, booo hisssss but i have a TRL2 and like it.


had to send it back in though :rolleyes: fucking thing would turn off when i shot the gun

I KNOW i know, booo hisssss but i have a TRL2 and like it.


had to send it back in though :rolleyes: fucking thing would turn off when i shot the gun

Awe crap - the one I'm picking up has only seen duty on a .40 - I'm putting it on a rail on a .308 - Hope I don't have to send mine back. You had to put in your two cents didn't you! :flipoff2:

I can't carry concealed unless I'm hunting, in which case I carry on my thigh in the thigh holster that I mentioned, afterall it is California. This would be more for inside the home.

There is no Z in laser you illiterate fucks.

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I see one :flipoff2:


and this guy has one for sale

LAZER For SALE (http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/tls/421433047.html)

This one is practical :laughing:
http://www.opticsplanet.net/surefire-hellfighter-tactical-spotlight.html



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I can't carry concealed unless I'm hunting, in which case I carry on my thigh in the thigh holster that I mentioned, afterall it is California. This would be more for inside the home.


i doubt you can even carry concealed while hunting.

I KNOW i know, booo hisssss but i have a TRL2 and like it.


had to send it back in though :rolleyes: fucking thing would turn off when i shot the gun

actually just got it back from the matco guy from service. turned out there was a bad connection in it :) works now :)

I have a TLR1 and TLR2 and love them both, although I NEVER, and I mean never use the laser. Thought it would be fun and cool, but it isnt. :laughing:

Lasers do make for dandy cat toys though.

These LaserMax lasers are cool. I have one in my Glock, nothing oin the outside. Totally internal. http://www.lasermax.com/

$400 gun + $400 laser = FUCK THAT!!! I'd rather buy another gun and just take twice as many shots! :laughing: Actually, if I were rich, I'd buy one just for the cool ninja factor, but I can't justify paying as much for a laser as I did for the gun.

i doubt you can even carry concealed while hunting.

From the California Penal Code:

12025. (a) A person is guilty of carrying a concealed firearm when
he or she does any of the following:
(1) Carries concealed within any vehicle which is under his or her
control or direction any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable
of being concealed upon the person.
(2) Carries concealed upon his or her person any pistol, revolver,
or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.
(3) Causes to be carried concealed within any vehicle in which he
or she is an occupant any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable
of being concealed upon the person.

12027. Section 12025 does not apply to, or affect, any of the
following:

(g) Licensed hunters or fishermen carrying pistols, revolvers, or
other firearms capable of being concealed upon the person while
engaged in hunting or fishing, or transporting those firearms
unloaded when going to or returning from the hunting or fishing
expedition.



I carry that section folded up with my hunting license

From the California Penal Code:

12025. (a) A person is guilty of carrying a concealed firearm when
he or she does any of the following:
(1) Carries concealed within any vehicle which is under his or her
control or direction any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable
of being concealed upon the person.
(2) Carries concealed upon his or her person any pistol, revolver,
or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.
(3) Causes to be carried concealed within any vehicle in which he
or she is an occupant any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable
of being concealed upon the person.

12027. Section 12025 does not apply to, or affect, any of the
following:

(g) Licensed hunters or fishermen carrying pistols, revolvers, or
other firearms capable of being concealed upon the person while
engaged in hunting or fishing, or transporting those firearms
unloaded when going to or returning from the hunting or fishing
expedition.



I carry that section folded up with my hunting license

good to know.