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Arizona_Jeep

09-19-2007, 06:00 PM

Hey do any of you guys know how good the wheeling is? And what about the camping? Worth driving an hour there or better go to Florence?

Let me know.

SHNIPE

09-20-2007, 05:08 PM

Table mesa > Florence

Arizona_Jeep

09-21-2007, 09:02 PM

So you are saying Table Mesa is better than Florence? I have done Highway to Hell in Florence. Is there anything comprable in Table Mesa?
I am one hour from Florence, two hours from Table Mesa.

ROLBY

09-24-2007, 09:11 AM

Hey guys i have been there too. We build a customers Jeep when i was doing sale for the mand he was a close friends too.....he had family in phoenix area and he wanted me to drv his f-250 with 2 dirt bikes and his jeep/buggy then him and his family were flying out and i would fly home. Great road trip and i had so much fun wheelen there.......super cool area.

Arizona_Jeep

09-24-2007, 06:51 PM

Okay.

I still don't think it's worth packing up the rV and trailer to go there when I could go to florence one hour closer.

If I'm driving to hours I should just kick in the extra 4 to go to tds.

`87runner

09-24-2007, 08:40 PM

Table Mesa is definately worth the trip at least once but it`s still nothing you can`t find in Florence which is much closer to you.

Arizona_Jeep

09-24-2007, 09:04 PM

Okay sounds good. Does it have camping for a 40ft motorhome and trailer?

Might try it out next week.

61scout80

09-25-2007, 12:49 PM

Okay sounds good. Does it have camping for a 40ft motorhome and trailer?

Might try it out next week.

where do you live?

Arizona_Jeep

09-25-2007, 01:28 PM

I live in Queen Creek,AZ.

I'm one houre from Florence and 2 from table Mesa,

Azrckcrawler

09-25-2007, 01:39 PM

If I lived an hour from Florence and two hours from Table Mesa, I'd move closer to Table Mesa.

Arizona_Jeep

09-25-2007, 08:36 PM

it's that good?

Well sounds like I need to give it a try.

Azrckcrawler

09-26-2007, 08:06 AM

it's that good?

Well sounds like I need to give it a try.

Look at it this way, a buddy and I ran every trail out in Florence back in our old Zuks in under 6 hours, this was back in 03 before the days of the purpose built buggies (you can read about it on my webpage, it was during the 2003 Undertaker's Marathon). We crawled everything unassisted and didn't even rush from trail to trail. I can't say the same thing for the trails at TM with the same rig. Even with a full on buggy there is stuff that pushes you to your limits (like no-balls wall, if you go up that one you have gone beyond big balls :laughing:).

You have a camper, what exactly is the big deal? Head out there on a Friday night and stay till Sunday. That's what we did last weekend. Most of the easier trails are within 5 minutes of camp which makes for easy night runs.

Arizona_Jeep

09-26-2007, 02:24 PM

So they have stuff as good as Highway to Hell?

Hoss50

09-26-2007, 06:16 PM

TM has trails that are just as good and better then Highway to Hell.

Harley

ewilly

09-26-2007, 07:02 PM

I am learning trails in both areas as I am new to the area and TM definitely has more trails that are on the extreme end although FJ has a few new trails that are extreme.

The other consideration is that FJ is nicer to camp by a long shot. It is quiet, clean and more scenic than TM.

Depending on the type of trails you like PM me and maybe we can hook up and go out. I drive a jeep turned buggy with 110 wheelbase. I work in Florence and live in Chandler.

See Ya,

Arizona_Jeep

09-26-2007, 10:06 PM

pm'd ya

JackA

09-27-2007, 10:16 AM

TM has many trails that are tougher then H2H. Variety is the spice of life. I would alternate between the 2 areas and run everything. For me, FJ is kinda boring with alot of slow driving between trails. Try both and decide for yourself.

Arizona_Jeep

09-27-2007, 01:07 PM

Okay I'll take a look at it.

61scout80

09-28-2007, 10:05 AM

I work in Florence and live in Chandler.

See Ya,

that commute has got to suck.

AzRat

10-11-2007, 02:01 PM

I wheel TM all the time since I live in Cave Creek...North Valley. A couple of trails that come to mind for crawling...
Anniconda
Predator
Annihilator...The falls at the start will make a man of you real quick
Twisted
...the list goes on and on.
Both FJ and TM have some good things to offer. Wherever you go just be conscious of your impact as both areas are in danger of being closed.

coyote

10-12-2007, 08:45 AM

How can you live in Queen Creek and be an hour from Florence, you walking? TM I understand the 2 hr comment....TM isn't that bad to camp, you just have to be careful and choose you spot...

az-k5

10-22-2007, 09:36 PM

So you are saying Table Mesa is better than Florence? I have done Highway to Hell in Florence. Is there anything comprable in Table Mesa?
I am one hour from Florence, two hours from Table Mesa.

If you like H2H in florenc, try dirts sanchez (real short though) and collateral damage at TM. TM spanks florence for wheeling IMO. Like jack said, variety. Wheel florence a couple of times and then head over to TM just to change the scenery.

I live in peoria so it is the exact opposite of you. I wheel 2 weekends a month and might get out to florence twice in a whole year.

FatBob309

10-27-2007, 04:53 PM

Pics from CD out in TM:

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n280/fatbob309/Jeep%20chick%20run/Chickjeeprun009.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n280/fatbob309/Jeep%20chick%20run/Chickjeeprun008.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n280/fatbob309/Jeep%20chick%20run/Havin20fun20yet2011.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n280/fatbob309/Jeep%20chick%20run/Havin20fun20yet2012.jpg

Anaconda pics:

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n280/fatbob309/Anaconda/Anaconda209.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n280/fatbob309/Anaconda/Anaconda2012.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n280/fatbob309/Anaconda/Anaconda205.jpg

DrVic723

10-27-2007, 08:44 PM

Never tried no-balls wall, anything like little miss givens in FJ?

fuggy

10-29-2007, 06:04 PM

I'll give another nod in favor of Table Mesa over Florence. TM trails are all in close proximity and offer trails that are more challenging than Florence. On the otherhand, Florence has great scenery, is cleaner, and there are some challenging trails for even the best rigs. I also believe that the Superior area has some great trails and easy access from the east valley. If that doesn't pop your cherry, head another hour south to Mammoth, AZ. :grinpimp:

Azrckcrawler

10-30-2007, 09:48 AM

Matrix :smokin:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=625779

If you care about your sheetmetal or don't have a rig that climbs well it'll be a winchfest :grinpimp:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=333277&stc=1&d=1193667146

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=333282&stc=1&d=1193667798

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=333284&stc=1&d=1193667798

85runnerAZ

11-09-2007, 07:00 PM

Dude - I see where you are coming from but stop being so resistant. FJ is fun but TM has MUCH MORE CHALLENGING trails. Its worth the trip. Give it a try. You will be amazed. H2H is pretty much as hard as FJ gets. That's it. Some may argue on which is the hardest FJ trail but the point is if street = 0 and best crawling in the country = 5:
FJ = 3.5
TM = 5

Dude_Jeep

11-30-2007, 10:25 PM

You got me convicned at least. TM HERE I COME!

Yjunk

12-13-2007, 06:58 PM

Yeah I'm a little late to the party here but I live pretty much right inbetween the two and go to TM all the time... I haven't been to FJ in two years.

Dude_Jeep

12-16-2007, 11:12 AM

I still haven't got up there. I am deciding my little wrngler couldn't make it. Looks like FJ is the place for my sorry ass.

el ranger loco

12-16-2007, 09:05 PM

I still haven't got up there. I am deciding my little wrngler couldn't make it. Looks like FJ is the place for my sorry ass.

Whats your rigs stats? Theres wheeling for everyone up there.
http://www.locooffroad.com/gallery/displayimage.php?imageid=59

My room mates "TJ" on one of the easier trails. See, you can do it............

http://a220.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/64/l_03283c34aa21f8c0e0ed89e4de3c90ab.jpg

Dude_Jeep

12-20-2007, 01:39 PM

Whats your rigs stats? Theres wheeling for everyone up there.
http://www.locooffroad.com/gallery/displayimage.php?imageid=59

My room mates "TJ" on one of the easier trails. See, you can do it............

http://a220.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/64/l_03283c34aa21f8c0e0ed89e4de3c90ab.jpg

It is a TJ, 4", 32's, 4.0L, and it has some power upgrades. I don't want to beat the crap out of it though. It will have ARBs and a currie tie rod by Jan 20th.

Kyron

12-20-2007, 04:17 PM

You can tottaly go there with your jeep, no one takes pictures of the easy stuff ..... thats why TM looks so hard :D

howyadoin

12-20-2007, 07:34 PM

If this little Yota POS can do everything...you should be able to!:flipoff2:

handlebar

12-21-2007, 08:21 PM

anybody up for a sunday run??? I plan on doing several runs ... let me know F-Toy that can keep up ...

Dude_Jeep

12-23-2007, 04:58 PM

I'll give it a go after the ARBs are installed in my Reddy(my wrangler).

Also, My dad has a 70's CJ7 with 33's, locker in the rear, and soa with a v8. Could he do this stuff? He doesn't care as much as me for damage but doesn't want to demolish it.

But I'll giv her a go. What trails do you reccomend for me? I don't want body damage keep in mind.

howyadoin

12-24-2007, 02:31 PM

Chicks dig body damage!:grinpimp: You'll probably want to try Terminator and Predator first to see how that goes. Trails go up in difficulty from there, but both of those trails are very tame. If those seem too easy, ask for directions to Matrix!:flipoff2:

Dude_Jeep

12-24-2007, 04:38 PM

Matrix eh'? Sounds interesting. I'll have to take my Dads CJ up there.:D

92orangeyj

12-29-2007, 04:42 PM

Looks like I'll be moving to Phoenix in the very near future. How close are these two areas to that. And how about a YJ with a springover, four to one kit and 35's, will it handle any of these areas?

SHNIPE

12-29-2007, 05:00 PM

Looks like I'll be moving to Phoenix in the very near future. How close are these two areas to that. And how about a YJ with a springover, four to one kit and 35's, will it handle any of these areas?

terms and predator would be good for your rig as well as a few others. Matrix however wouldnt be one of them :D

Dude_Jeep

12-31-2007, 02:42 PM

I got a 4:1 in my TJ and 35's are in the near future. I am hedding out around spring probably like, I don't know, March-ess?

Oh and ARBs are going in this month. :D

Arizona_Jeep

01-20-2008, 09:56 PM

I went up there, it was some good shit. Fuck Florence now, TM is for me!

SHNIPE

01-21-2008, 04:08 PM

heading out friday morning. RD, terms, predator. 9am

DrewDog

01-21-2008, 05:24 PM

heading out friday morning. RD, terms, predator. 9am

SHNIPE, may try to drag the jeep to work and head out and meet you out there. Catch you on the terms. I'll let you know when we get closer......D

JackA

01-22-2008, 10:09 AM

Matrix eh'? Sounds interesting. I'll have to take my Dads CJ up there.:D

Don't waste your time. Matrix will hand you and that Jeep your ass. Once you can do hot laps through Twisted, then go to Matrix.:mr-t:

SHNIPE

01-22-2008, 03:10 PM

SHNIPE, may try to drag the jeep to work and head out and meet you out there. Catch you on the terms. I'll let you know when we get closer......D

nice drew! would be fun to have you finally out wheelin with me! I of course wont have a damn jeep to drive so ill just point and laugh at those that follow where i put them :D

92orangeyj

02-05-2008, 04:41 PM

Currently in Arizona from Georgia and am interested in the local places to wheel if anyone could be a tour guide. Don't have my heep here yet so I would have to be a co-pilot. Thanks, Ben

Symon623

02-08-2008, 08:11 AM

Currently in Arizona from Georgia and am interested in the local places to wheel if anyone could be a tour guide. Don't have my heep here yet so I would have to be a co-pilot. Thanks, Ben

Go here someone will accomodate you i'm sure;

http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/

howyadoin

02-08-2008, 12:55 PM

For anyone interested, doing a TM trip tomorrow morning at 8am. PM me if you're interested in a run.

DrewDog

02-09-2008, 08:42 PM

For anyone interested, doing a TM trip tomorrow morning at 8am. PM me if you're interested in a run.

howyadoin, just saw this!!!! Maybe next trip out. I might be heading out to TM tomorrow AM........Drew

howyadoin

02-10-2008, 07:32 PM

Shiate, sorry about that...how's next weekend? It was a pretty good run, had a new rig out and I think they had a good time breaking it in!

lancetkenyon

02-23-2008, 07:26 PM

With all the rains lately, Collateral is nasty. It kicked our asses today. No real carnage, but it was actually really tough........and fun! I can usually walk all the obstacles except the 3rd fall, but today was a fight for all the ground we took.

83toyota81

05-27-2008, 09:03 PM

howyadoin

05-28-2008, 08:08 AM

hey guys i hope i didnt miss it but i was wondering if ther is a map or detailed instructions to get to trails in table mesa? im in prescott and have been down the last two weekends, i have found Collateral damage and terminator, and i know where aniconda comes off of terminator. we ran terminator last time and we are looking for something a bit more challenging. we have 3 toyotas with 35s-37s and a wrangler on 37s all locked in at least one axle and all but one have a winch. any advice would be great.

No map exists and you will never get detailed instructions on a public forum. The best thing to do is hook up with a group that is running trails you're interested in. I would suggest the Arizona chapter of TTORA.com since you seem to be Yota biased! Best of luck.

DrewDog

05-28-2008, 10:28 AM

No map exists and you will never get detailed instructions on a public forum. The best thing to do is hook up with a group that is running trails you're interested in. I would suggest the Arizona chapter of TTORA.com since you seem to be Yota biased! Best of luck.

X2. Most any weekend you'll find a few groups out there running......Drew

lancetkenyon

06-02-2008, 07:06 PM

I am usually out there every weekend. Look for the yellow POS Jeep. But as said above, you will not get directions on any public board. Try www.azvirtualjeepclub.com for more info.

m1ndless

07-16-2008, 01:11 AM

I know of a great map of TM, a buddy of mine made it a few years back, he has all the trails outlined on the map, but I am sure alot of people would be pissed off if I posted it publicly, so I kee it in my truck. :)

DrewDog

07-16-2008, 09:57 AM

over's tj

08-01-2008, 06:42 PM

would you say, TM trails are among best in Phoenix area?

I've walked "NL" reciently and it looks tougher then anything I remember from TM area, been a while since I've been to TM though

fuggy

08-01-2008, 10:35 PM

would you say, TM trails are among best in Phoenix area?

I've walked "NL" reciently and it looks tougher then anything I remember from TM area, been a while since I've been to TM though

Depends on what you consider hard, but I think TM has harder trails, especially trails that test the rigs vertical capabilities. NL is also hard, but for other reasons. Lots of diff hangers, technical crawling, and lines you have to know. The recent rains have made TM trails harder and NL easier. :D

lostoffroad

08-02-2008, 09:38 PM

i would say that tm has the harder trails. maybe not the super technical but with the waterfalls and legdes getting cleaned out after these recent rains there nice and fun. just remember its all in your perspective of what you look at as harder or better. most stuff at tm i can wlk right through but thats just cause i wheel it all the time. white tanks has the diff grabber navigate trails to teach you how to pick a line thats a 100 yrds long.

IROK Cherokee

08-02-2008, 11:14 PM

How was Georgia, Chris?

lostoffroad

08-04-2008, 08:41 PM

it was really nice actually. i love all the nice big green trees everywhere. loks like im going back there one more time to help with the finish details. it was nice and dry the 4 days i was there and never got above 90ish. didnt get to go out in his fj40 but still had a great time.