: Feel the vision..involves dana 300 and 205!!!


Sillyneck
06-17-2002, 02:53 PM
okay I have my dana 300 on all normal right now....but I was thinking if I snag a divorced 205 then I could flip the 300 out of the way and run the 205 to my pass side diff not only netting more gear reduction but I could use my d300 front wheel low option as PTO :D not sure what I'd use it for but it could be cool :D maybe a showed pump w/ enough pressure to wash my jeep mid trail for late night wax and buffs on the 'con? :D

problems? concerns? this thing's trail only anyways. :D about to be 44" boggered and 60-14bolt trail only :D

Sillyneck
06-17-2002, 02:54 PM
okay I have the answer! a killer trail blender!!!! to chop full block ice into an INSANE margarita.

is it wrong I have been drinking all afternoon? :D :beer:

Old Scout
06-17-2002, 02:55 PM
I hope your 300 is a twin stick!

Sillyneck
06-17-2002, 02:57 PM
yea and I use front low quite often. Sillyfab twin stick :D

Sillyneck
06-17-2002, 03:52 PM
as for the blender I was thinking again (ouch)

and here's what I got. take a sami 3rd member and point it flange dirt on a quick release. then build a container of sorts on top (more of a vat or barrel. add ingredients to the container and fire up the pto. I'm guessing the pinion and ring would do a great blending job. wind that f-er up to 6k rpms in 4th gear :D that'd be sik! the first few hundred drinks would taste like gear oil but that's not so bad is it? :D maybe make a few acetone and ice drinks to clean it out a bit? :D

elf_cruiser
06-17-2002, 06:48 PM
Silly, are you planning on having exhaust on this truck? If so, where is it gonna run?

BTW, nice idea for PTO usage. I would have suggested a winch, but what do i know?

Sillyneck
06-17-2002, 06:57 PM
there's room for the exhaust. I had an np231 w/ the 5.0 and duals...then I got the 300 pass side and still have the same duals :D

winch? I'll have 44" boggers...who needs a winch? :D

kwrangln
06-17-2002, 06:59 PM
44" boggers and a whole lotta margaritas, we donts needs no stinkin winch.:D

twistedmetal
06-17-2002, 07:29 PM
Here's the set-up I ran in my Scout II krawler. Enough room for 4" exhaust on the side. The 300 front output ended up somewhere under my wife's knee, so the PTO option was out. Worked KILLER! But, I had a design flaw in the mounting system. In order to run the 205 without an intermediate shaft, I needed to make the 300 and 205 basically ONE unit. So I built this cage you see here. It holds the 205 and 300 together in a solid mount, then swung uo and mounted to the tranny and the frame with four poly bushings. The flaw was in the frame mounts. They didn't allow enough give. I broke a motor mount during a grudge match on the street on a late Saturday night and instead of the t-cases just kicking over to one side, it ripped the tranny case into pieces. Oops. Needless to say, I got a few unwanted laughs and applause.
I have that 205 for sale. Make me an offer.:D

Sillyneck
06-17-2002, 07:32 PM
that's a thing of beauty! :D I'm just gonna flip the 300 to the otehr side. driver's side pto :D then it'll be rollin' fat :D margaita bucket anyone?

Toyota_Jim
06-17-2002, 07:51 PM
since the pto is on the bottom on the drivers side, cut a hole in the floor board and put a BIG buffing wheel on the pto so it stuck through the floor a few inches. now you can drive and buff the bottom of your favorite sneakers.

WytNkls
06-17-2002, 07:56 PM
I see your still on drugs:flipoff2: Bwahahahahh

matt-

BillaVista
06-17-2002, 07:59 PM
now you can drive and buff the bottom of your favorite sneakers.

OK, NOW you're thinking!!

Pu on a big...*ahem* extension of some kind (manekin hand with nice bright red nail polish....or hell, a stuffed gorilla hand if that's yer bag) and buff something else entirely :p :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

RHINO
06-17-2002, 09:53 PM
hey silly i met a guy thats done something like you want,, he has a ford with original divorced 205, he needed a new motor and happened to have a chebby laying around, so he put the whole chebby engine tranny and 203 case into his ford then hooked up the divorced 205 with a short shaft like stock, works fine, he says he beats on it and hasent had any probs just thought you'd like to know:beer:

Wilson
06-17-2002, 10:43 PM
I told you that once you got into the axle swap you would think of more stuff. After redoing my swap to lower the truck, which mathematically it is....but in actuality isn't stick with what works, you're going to be 120:1 or so with 44 bogs, 60 and 14 bolt, you'll be able to pretty much do anything you want. My new setup looks better, is less sang prone and will flex better, but damn it was a lot ofdown time and work! I decided to do my axle swap stuff now, cases later. I want to wheel, enough wrenching for a while. I do like the blender idea though, but couldn't you just use a die grinder off of a york, with a regular blender pitcher? No gear oil-flavored margaritas then.

Sillyneck
06-17-2002, 10:54 PM
air powered die grinder? that's just non-sense there's no such thing! especially off a york pepermint patty! I've heard some crazy things in my day but that's recockulous! :D

I think a sami diff blender is much more resonable :D LOL

my set up now is 116:1 if I decide to keep the 4.56 in the 60-14 then I can just add lockers....if I go to 5.13 and add the 205 I will be @255 or so :D bwahahahah that's 2x as slow!!!! I love it! I need it!
and if I can get a div 205 cheap then it's awn like donkey kawng :D

Cliffy [JD]
06-18-2002, 07:59 AM
Originally posted by twistedmetal
The flaw was in the frame mounts. They didn't allow enough give. I broke a motor mount during a grudge match on the street on a late Saturday night and instead of the t-cases just kicking over to one side, it ripped the tranny case into pieces. Oops. Needless to say, I got a few unwanted laughs and applause.
I have that 205 for sale. Make me an offer.:D

So if you would have just run poly mounts at the frame you would have been fine! Looks heavy as hell!!

twistedmetal
06-18-2002, 06:12 PM
Heavy? Oh yeah. But not as bad as I expected. The Scout's loaded weight came in at near 6200 lbs. And I could still pull off a mid 17 second 1/4 mile!
No, the poly's wouldn't have done the trick. The mounts were too far apart. A normal mount is about 6 inches long or so, technically, mine was 34" across. No way it could rock AT ALL. I even had the 440 chained down! It ripped the factory IH motor mount (the frame part) right off of the frame. Left a 19 inch long crack from the steering box all the way to the floor board, and a 6"x 4" hole in the frame.:nuke: Should have seen it, what a mess! Ripped the PS lines out, cut a radiator hose, The tranny ended up wit han inch wide crack diagonally across the top, and all the fluid came up through the hole where my B&M shifter monted all over my leg. Hot. Smashed the 14x6 inch K&N on the hood, denting the hood. The chunk of frame still attached to the motor came up with it when it jumped and ripped the steering shaft out of the box.
All I can do now is laugh my ass off. In fact I'm about to piss myself just sitting here thinking about it!:D I did all this in front of a dorm on a cruise night. Musta' been about 200 people watching as it lost all steering, the tranny fluid caught fire on the header, and rolled up into the front yard of the dorm! Screaming girls, that's what I remember the most!! Awesome!

twistedmetal
06-18-2002, 06:13 PM
Oh, yeah, blew the shiat out of the rear driveshaft CV joint as well! So I had no GO power to even move it!

That Mick
06-18-2002, 06:47 PM
Been thinking about something like this myself for my Terra. Not sure if I want to clock the hell out of a D20, or get an adaptor ring to run a drivers drop D300. I figure I've got the wheelbase to run a short intermidiate shaft. Now I just need to get the damn thing going and get the money to start rigging it/