Got any pics of a shackle flip on a full size rear leaf?

Looking at doing this for my dodge instead of keep buying springs....

ORD kit on an 89 Chevy

Do you know how much lift it added??

BDS makes a flip-kit for the 1500 Ram.

http://www.bds-suspension.com

Originally posted by RudeZuk
Do you know how much lift it added??

I don't remember exactly..but it was somewhere between 4 - 4.5" using the stock shackle

Originally posted by Pavemen
BDS makes a flip-kit for the 1500 Ram.

http://www.bds-suspension.com

Cool thanks!!

No kit: stock F250 front/rear hanger on fs Ford:
http://www.superford.org/registry/users/33/139/flip4.jpg

The nice thing about the BDS kit is that it is a lifetime no-questions asked warranty.

Hows that ORD shackle flip kit perform. I have a 90 k1500 that i've been thinking about getting that for...I want to eliminate the blocks i have in the rear.

The nice thing about salvaging hangers from a 'yard is it'll cost you $10 or less :p If they fail you shell out another 5 or 10 bucks, no questions asked!

As for performance, my thoughts are this: departure angle suffers some. Axle wrap may increase if you're heavy on the stupid pedal. Over time the springs will sag (at least of a fs, but it's kinda like a spring-over on Jeeps, Scouts, etc), and a military wrap is recommended IMO, but not required. High speed stability could be compromised, only an issue if you do go-fast prerunner stuff. My .02.

Advantages: it's cheap, no blocks, it's cheap. Springs sit flat and can, in theory, flex better (double edge sword, cause this fatigues them too).

Bottom line, it's a lot of bang (lift, decent flex) for the buck.

I don't know about the Dodge, but I simply cut the bottoms of the hangers on my '82 Chevy, dropped the shackles through, and welded two reinforcment plates over the top. Can be done in the time it takes you install the store bought kit and nets you 4 inches of lift with the stock shackle...

Call up ORU Off road unlimited, there in southern cal. He were you up on the con this last weekend. I thought i saw your tow rig parked at the damn. Looking good!

If you are serously considering this modification check out this web site first -------->Shackle flip alternative (http://www.users.qwest.net/~ruthspear/index3.html)

Originally posted by bigblackjeep
Call up ORU Off road unlimited, there in southern cal. He were you up on the con this last weekend. I thought i saw your tow rig parked at the damn. Looking good!

I was parked up by the RV sites....A big Burgandy and Silver one...

THanks!

How stable is this shackle flip when towing??

If you are serously considering this modification check out this web site first -------->Shackle flip alternative

thats the Springer Suspensions setup, i have a version on my truck and it flexes prett good, he made it for a chevy, but im sure w/skills it could be made to work on a dodge

http://4x4.alloffroad.com/images/springer_side.jpg
http://4x4.alloffroad.com/images/dsc01171.jpg
http://4x4.alloffroad.com/images/dsc01174.jpg

he is on the ColoradoK5 site under Marv_Springer for more info.

Originally posted by Cliffhanger
If you are serously considering this modification check out this web site first -------->Shackle flip alternative (http://www.users.qwest.net/~ruthspear/index3.html)

Not worried about flex......Have gobs and gobs with this truck already!
Im looking to lift it some and this will be my tow rig!

If you have a lot of flex and want to tow you should think about adding some air bag overloads. It would stiffen up the rear while towing and when you let the air out would give the ride and flex you have now.

Originally posted by 70~K5
If you have a lot of flex and want to tow you should think about adding some air bag overloads. It would stiffen up the rear while towing and when you let the air out would give the ride and flex you have now.

I have too much lift for the air bags...I think??

Also, this would help me out in leveling my truck out now that the rear springs have sagged out......and get rid of some block in the rear!

You might have to fab a mount for the bags but it shouldn't be to hard. A gusseted L bracket on the frame and a mount off the top of the axle. You could even set it up where a couple of pins and the bag and part of the mount would come right off when you're not towing. That and a QD for the air line. Just an idea. That or maybe a rear anti-roll bar with QD mounts for it.

Originally posted by RudeZuk


Not worried about flex......Have gobs and gobs with this truck already!
Im looking to lift it some and this will be my tow rig!

Double check with ORD but I believe they do not recommend towing with a shackle flip.........Grim Reaper has a nice story to tell about towing with a flip.

Originally posted by scoobydann


thats the Springer Suspensions setup, i have a version on my truck and it flexes prett good, he made it for a chevy, but im sure w/skills it could be made to work on a dodge

http://4x4.alloffroad.com/images/springer_side.jpg
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sorry if this is a dumb question, but what's up with the shackle angle:confused: this appears to be a different version of the picture cliffhanger showed in his post, which had what looked like "normal" shackle orientation.
it looks wierd having the top of the shackle leading rather than trailing the lower spring mount......wouldn't that cause the spring to flex before the shackle was able to pivot, making for a less efficient system?
just curious.:)

I was gonna ask the same thing, it seems strange that it needs that "shackle stop" thing.

Unless the origional spring was used, in which case it makes sense because the origional spring length would PULL the shackle towards the front of the vehicle. But that seems like it would cause wierd spring problems

well if you look at the drawing he doesnt have it set right. It may be that he didnt put in the 5 degree wedge shim.

The reason the shackle looks like that is becasue there is no weight on the back of the truck. that is a fairly old pic and now there is a little weight back there. the shackle is still a little angled, but there is still more work and weight to be added.

the shackle stop was again when the truck had no weight the shackle would want to flip under itself so we added the stop.

the drawn picture that cliffhanger posted is the origional setup using the factory rear spring hangers on a chevy fullsize. I already had the ORD flip and wanted more. springer wanted to try out this setup to see if it worked and it still has a few bugs to be worked out but it is mostly there.

the springs are Ford springs which are 57" where as the factory chevy are 52" i belive

The pic cliffhanger showed use a standard shackle mount on the frame. The addon piece would stop when it bottomed on the hanger. The other pic shows the springer plus and ORD shackle flip for more lift. It needs the stop to keep both pieces from droping to much and caming over center. Think if it drooped to the point of both pieces going over center it get jacked up in that position.

here some garage fab. using f-150 leafsshackle flip (http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/scottsbent70/lst?.dir=/70%27+bronco/shackle+flip&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/)