WTF, tHIS MAKES ME SOOOOOOO MAD!This is not the first time this has happened it must stop.Today getting back to our tow rigs at eagle lake all our rigs had a window busted out multiple items missing and this is what makes me mad that it could be another wheeler.I dont think that our vehicles being broken into the same time as last year and then the same weekend this year is coincedence but any other time its been fine.We have made police reports and thats that............now I wait and see what happens again.This is a warning if you like your sh*t dont leave it there.

Well that freakin sucks! :mad3:


I guess it would be better to park at cisco and drive down to eagle lakes rd. :shaking:

A great weekend on a great trail with good friends partially ruined with this b.s............................SHOCKER did you see anything on the way out saturday?It had to of happened saturday night:mad3:

and they wonder why they want to close down the trails...:shaking: this just gives em more reason to...:mad3:

and they wonder why they want to close down the trails...:shaking: this just gives em more reason to...:mad3:

Ever consider that "they" are the ones doing the vandalism??? Not that an incedent like this would keep us from going back and parking there again but it is discouraging, just what they (eco's) want.

Sounds like its time to get a group together for a setup. A few park and go wheelin, others come in after without rigs (wifes minivan or something, maybe a rental Prius) and wait for the show. If nothing happens, great, sit by the campfire and drink some brew... If something does, camera is on and so is the party!

Funny how I see the dodge durango forest ranger out in the middle of nowhere giving dui's and fix it tickets but not once seen them at the trail head...I have never seen one on the trail.Makes me mad :mad3:but I am not going to blame the rangers for a p.o.s loser that needs to steal:flipoff2:. I want ideas on how to stop this?It seems to rarely happen at the rubicon or anywhere else I have been but this has been a problem since last year that never got resolved.:mad3:

same thing happened to me and luvnit4x4. my wing got busted out, they tore everything from my glove box and stole the stereo face.

the broke into my buddies late model chevy truck, broke the drivers window, took his stereo face, and took all his new mac straps and the control box for his warn winch that we never wired up.

my wing window is still broke and the dome light is still not fixed. this happened memorial day weekend up there.

Everything was gone through and scattered throughout the cab.Wierd
what they took and what was left, looks like they were in search of cash.I really dont want to say what was stolen until we find it on craigslist the home of stolen goods.A truck was left unscathed and it was a utility bed but some other rigs that I didn't know got it pretty bad, one had car seats and I could only guess(as having kids myself)what to do when you get back with 2-3 kids and no back window and glass flying around at 60 on hwy80:mad3::flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2 ::flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2 :

just be glad you still have a rig, i was glad. any chevy key shaved a bit would have let it drive off. I have a older suburban. sounds like the same clowns that got me. scattered shit every where and just after stupid shit. why take half a stereo?

One of my buddys had his Tacoma broke into this weekend too. It was near Fordyce lake. They came in through the back window. They went through the whole truck. Took all kinds of stuff. Its a crappy end to such a bad ass weekend.

i am betting the reason it happens there as compared to the rubicon, is the fact that its only 5 min off the highway. i mean ANYONE can jsut drive off the road on the way home from the mountains pick up what they need and be gone. ITs HELLA GAY! people need to be shot!
i will be parking my rig at cisco next weekend!

you know someone really needs to stake this place out.. just leave your rig there as bait and hang out somewere within the vicinity so you can watch over things...

If it happens this often (which is obviously does) then it shouldn't be that hard to bust these fucking theiving little bastards..

I no longer park in there because of this reason.. I park somewere else.. which I will not give away.. but I've been lucky so far.

When I used to park in the turn-about i'd take everything I could out of it and leave it unlocked.

I hate theives with a passion :mad3:

One of my buddys had his Tacoma broke into this weekend too. It was near Fordyce lake. They came in through the back window. They went through the whole truck. Took all kinds of stuff. Its a crappy end to such a bad ass weekend.

Damn tell me that wasn't Zach D's !! We saw his back window open when we came out yesterday. His shit was parked at Cisco on the paved road by the campground/pay parking area!!...holy shiat!!

Just another reason I always park and pay at Cisco these days.

I may be seeing the Tahoe LE officer when we go up on the 27th to check out the trail withe the FS. I will certainly take the opportunity to talk to them about this.

that blows man :(

I'll gladly pay the $15 to not worry. hell... 1 of the guys w/ us just tossed his chains and binders in his bed. I'm not that trusting but at least it's a little secure over there. Time to stake out eagle lakes and eliminate the prob if ya get me.

Dam that sucks… saw u guys driving down 80 yesterday with a blown out back window, those losers need to be taken out in the woods and tied to a rig in the middle of the river for a night or so…

It was Zacks truck. They took hundreds of CD's from his girl. I know they shouldnt of been left in the truck, but that still sucks. Im willing to park my rig on the road and stake it out. I would love to catch someone.

Ahhh, memories!

This happend to me back in 2002 http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67462&highlight=stolen

And it happens EVERY YEAR!! I am so in for a stakeout, I wanted to do it before. But just couldnt pull it off. I am pretty sure we narrowed it down to an employee to the Weimar Country Store. That was one of the places that the credit cards were used and the employee that we confronted got a little weided out when we were there.

Ryan

several vehicles were also broken into saturday night at the staging area for hikers up near rainbow lodge

i am getting a enclosed gn trailer and then i can park my tow rig in the trailer (if i can get it in)then locking it up but then they might take the trailer
its a dam shame we have to worry about these things

Hey guys. I can't believe it, go up to have an honest great time, the least thing I would worry about is your truck being broken into. We passed the staging area about 6:00 and didn't notice anything. We parked outside the staging area along the road and fortunately everything was OK. I'm really sorry for you guys, but I didn't notice anything on the way out. There was only a man and a woman standing near a standard Toyota, looked like hikers maybe, not the standard thief type, but nothing unusual. We had a great time tagging along with you guys and hope we're welcome again . There's always a few people like thieves that have to ruin it!!

now do you think it's safe to talk about the stake out here or ya think they read? Maybe it's the f-cking greenies considering they read this stuff. All I need is a reason :nuke:

Just got off the phone with them and they let me know that between all of us targeted its possible 3-4 felonys for the bastards.

That totally sucks. I used to park at Eagle Lakes but since have heard of break ins have choose to park at Cisco Groove.

I have heard that a lot of teenagers go up there to party. Not far from Sac and they can have fires with no one complaining about noise. I doubt it is another wheeler, but who is really to say until we catch them.

Once again, that sucks. Wish you the best of luck to find the dumb ass out there break in to others tow rig.

now do you think it's safe to talk about the stake out here or ya think they read? Maybe it's the f-cking greenies considering they read this stuff. All I need is a reason :nuke:

I think the same,but maybe another wheeler:mad3: I even believe they look at the page thats why I dont think its smart either to say much without pm each other about the" issue" so that "they" dont see it.Pretty much sucks ,that they had a great opportunity to know it was a big weekend but with the recent opening of the forest maybe they knew we all would be there.

Add another rig to the mess. My hubby just got off the phone with a friend of ours who'd truck got hit too:mad3:. He thinks they took the gas can(1/2 full) that was in the back of his truck and emptied into his Dura-Max. The can was empty when he got back, and his truck ran like crap until he filled it with diesel. His back window was broken, they tried to pull out the DVD monitors in the head rests, but were unsucessful. They took some change, a bag of chips and a case of Coke:shaking:.

:mad3:

My friends tranny blew up on the way back after they used his tools to make a hole in the tranny pan(hammer):mad3:WTF they triied to get his stereo out but couldn't so I guess they just damage stuff if it is to hard to steal.Was your friends the big red chevy with car seats?.....:mad3:......I might need to look over my truck better tomarrow I sure hope they catch them.

Was your friends the big red chevy with car seats?.....:mad3:......I might need to look over my truck better tomarrow I sure hope they catch them.

It is a red Chevy, not sure if he had the car seats in it or not. I guess if it was the only red Chevy, it was his.

That was it,he got it bad too I was wondering why they didn't grab those tvs

That was it,he got it bad too I was wondering why they didn't grab those tvs

I guess they were too hard to remove..or they got spooked:confused:

hey making my first trip up to Fordyce soon someone pm me with a safer location to park. please

I know, but:( its been closed since I got my own rig... ok..

I might be starting from bowman lake or washington or graniteville from now on and if a little more driving means added protection I will have to suck it up and maybe put take the slugs out on the jeep:).Its all dirt/paved roads back to meadow lake and the towns there are small and quite and someone will hear things breaking around there and the thieves dont really have the greatest getaway(freeway)if spotted.Personally I like starting at eagle (its the start of the trail) but with this happening again I doubt if I will go back there to park.

The sheriffs department is waiting to hear from the owner of the chevy.pm me and I will give you the number of the guy thats handling our case.

let me know when you want to go camping, I have, or can have, a serious case of anger management...lol. Im up for staying the night and ....observing, lol

The sheriffs department is waiting to hear from the owner of the chevy.pm me and I will give you the number of the guy thats handling our case.

PM sent:)

thanks

I am not a fan of vigilante justice even though I really enjoy it.I think let the sheriffs dept. do there thing I know that its been a couple of years and this is still going on with no signs of ever catching them but I think they will get them. Now as who thats going to be catching them ,they may not be a sheriff maybe a responsible civilian so be it.At first I thought it was the greener people at first but whoever is doing this is targeting hikers on there big weekends too! (I have been researching).They might have been looking for hikers and found trailers.:mad3:

Your welcome.

The only way to stop this is to Catch them redhanded!!! This sh!t happened to Phil and I in Chico. these 2 kids took a bunch of new auto parts in napa bags, out of phils bronco, reciept and all. Needless to say, phil and i were at napa later that day, the fawktards were in the store trying to return the parts. And Wala... we caught them. both on probabtion, for stealing, they tried to deny the whole thing, then we followed the cops to there house and they found stolen cars everywhere, license plates didn't match any vehicles, auto parts, stereos, speakers. We found the loot and they went back to jail!!!!! I say wait in the bushes saturday night, as soon as they brake a window, it's awn like donkeykong!!!

I wouldn't be suprised if it was some local wheeler that thinks he/she owns the place and gets pissed off seeing other people using it. That would atleast explain why both 4wheelers and hikers are being targeted. Just a thought.

This sucks Ive been planning my first trip to fordyce for a while now and hearing this is enough to make me not want to go. My burb has many$$$$ in stereo in it thats a pita to take out and so do my buddys rigs(nothing low pro)

I wouldn't be suprised if it was some local wheeler that thinks he/she owns the place and gets pissed off seeing other people using it. That would atleast explain why both 4wheelers and hikers are being targeted. Just a thought.

Local yes, but I wouldn't tag the thief a wheeler, just a scumbag. There is no way to tell the hobbies of the thief.

I wasn't by any means saying it is a fellow wheeler, but you never know.

same m.o. by rainbow lodge loose change,cds,keys,tools all paper work out of glove box they now have an address to go with the keys.i'm guessing tweakers who else would pry open a tool box that does'nt lock:shaking:

It is a red Chevy, not sure if he had the car seats in it or not. I guess if it was the only red Chevy, it was his.

We were parked next to that rig at about 10:30 Sunday morning. Saw a white truck too. Everything looked fine then.

It was weird though. We saw a couple of dogs running in and out of the trees by the restrooms, but no people.

We left at about 11:30 AM. We had some friends come out about an hour later, they did not see anything, that was about 1PM.

Bummer you guys, that sucks.

So what are the options for parking at Cisco. I know some people park over at the Chevron station parking lot but do they charge $$$ ? What are the campgrounds on the North side of the freeway at Cisco? Its really been 20 years since I actually went over on that side of the freeway. I remember a "Thousand Trails" RV campground over there. But will they charge for tow rig parking? This really sucks cause I am dying to go up there this weekend.

So what are the options for parking at Cisco. I know some people park over at the Chevron station parking lot but do they charge $$$ ? What are the campgrounds on the North side of the freeway at Cisco? Its really been 20 years since I actually went over on that side of the freeway. I remember a "Thousand Trails" RV campground over there. But will they charge for tow rig parking? This really sucks cause I am dying to go up there this weekend.

You can park below the Chevron and it is free but there is no one who will watch your rig.

If you go to the Cisco Grove campground you can go through the gate and park in the lot to the right. It is $5 per day, so for Friday, Saturday and Sunday it will cost you $15. I think it is well worth the money to have someone watch your rig.

How far of a drive is it from the trail head to cisco or the other as my little sami sucks ass on the road

How far of a drive is it from the trail head to cisco or the other as my little sami sucks ass on the road

Only one exit. About a mile or so, not far at all.

And parking at Cisco is worth the $$$

How far of a drive is it from the trail head to cisco or the other as my little sami sucks ass on the road

Yeah, it's 1 mile down 80 (the next exit). Then about 1 mile to the dirt.

Is this where the Cisco campground / parking is????


http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?f=q&hl=en&ie=UTF8&t=k&msa=0&ll=39.311664,-120.544181&spn=0.005861,0.012692&z=17&om=1&msid=114559157756580408530.00043b8d1dda60a23a68a






Valley Auto, the map also shows how far it is to Eagle lakes rd and the trail head. FWIW

Is this where the Cisco campground / parking is????
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?f=q&hl=en&ie=UTF8&t=k&msa=0&ll=39.311664,-120.544181&spn=0.005861,0.012692&z=17&om=1&msid=114559157756580408530.00043b8d1dda60a23a68a


Sweet! :smokin:

Cisco CG had a tough summer with loss of revenue due to forest closure. They are great folks and well worth the 10-15 dollars. I am up for a stake out, but I am not sure what I would do faced with confronting these scumbags. I know what I would like to do, but that is not something I would post here.

We were parked next to that rig at about 10:30 Sunday morning. Saw a white truck too. Everything looked fine then.

It was weird though. We saw a couple of dogs running in and out of the trees by the restrooms, but no people.

We left at about 11:30 AM. We had some friends come out about an hour later, they did not see anything, that was about 1PM.

Bummer you guys, that sucks.

So if everything was ok at 1pm, then this was done during the daytime! That is very bold.

5 years ago when mine truck was broken into there, I had a fellow wheeler say that he saw a couple people in a white/tan 2wd S10 or Toyota hanging in the staging area. He didnt know any rigs had been broken into until later, so he did not pay too much attention.

Ryan

Well it sounds like cisco cg is the answer might have to drop the rig off there then take the tow rig back as a mile on 80 might be kinda scary doing 37 mph

Well we came back to our tow rigs last night after a long weekend to find 1 of the two got broken into. Both trucks are almost exactly the same, both lifted white 4 door chevy's. But one had a broken passenger window and most everything out of it gone. We didn't park at the staging area, we parked out on the road thinking it might be a better place just because of the visibility. Well we guessed wrong. So be careful....

Better be careful parking out on the road. I think that's a ticket now.

I would have taken a ticket...that would have ment there were cops around...

YEA they took my i-pod and stero face looks like the started to unscrew the speakers and the stoped

I talked to justin today and he said everything looked good when he got there...what time did you get to your truck?

Shottie on a string might help

In all seriousness, this shit has been going on way too long. One thing that you could do is to take some hunting type of motion cameras. That would at least give you a shitty picture and you could tell what kind of truck and what not.

As far as the sting operation. I will do no such thing. I will also suggest to you that you should do no such thing or write about doing such a thing. Keep it PM. More of one of those, you did a favor for all but can't tell anyone what you accomplished deals

I would hate to be in court for beating some guys half to death while the judge reads off "You said that you wanted to curb those guys but chose to break his pelvic bone because there were no curbs to be found"

Shit like this makes me think twice about leaving my rig at any trail head. I know we could have parked a Cisco but we can't drive either rig down the freeway. So if I want my rig to be safe I have to miss out on the begining of the trail. This hole thing sucks. I hate thieves

9 ish

honda,c-4,and subs

that blows. we left sunday at noon and because of this thread I looked at every vehicle/person around in the stag area and saw the two on the road. There were 3 or 4 groups of atv's and a couple hunters and a solo dude in a fj60 lookin for eagle lakes. He was suspicious cause he said he had been to the first water cross and his 60 was clean. anyway, your rigs were unmolested at noon. there was a 2 tone chevy with a back window busted out.

i talked to the guy on the trail with the back window out it was like that befor and he said there was nothing to steel mine was the wht xtra cab chevy on the street and the broke the pass extracab window

Which rig were you in ? We were camped right by the water on the right after the first crossing. Did you come in late fri night ? You had to of passed us.

We passed by you guys on Sat night about an hour or so after dark.
BUDLIGHT was in the green jeepster, we also had a flatty, full size Chevy, small cj-7 and my silver toy.

was that cj swimin at the crossing ? I remember your group.

Let's just say he got a little wet, but made it without help.

EVERYONE who has had a break-in should file a Police Report.

If Sheriff/Highway Patrol get enough reports, they will (hopefully) increase patrols in these areas.

If you can't run down I-80 to Eagle Lakes from Cisco Grove you can always go up Signal Peak and back down the backside. It will take you about an hour, maybe less, but at least you can still park where it's safe and wheel the whole trail. Then all you need to do is wheel back down to Committee and run down the fire road to Cisco Grove to get back to your tow rig and trailer.

except they close the gate at cisco on November 15th. It is locked until spring

Just cuz you park your rig in the Cisco lot, does not mean it is safe. After the store is closed in the evening, there is no one around to see anything that goes on in those two lots.

Agreed...but atleast there are hours that people are there, there's some light, and it's a lot more visable and more traffic than the Eagle Lakes stageing area. Or for that matter the road leading to the trail head.

Just cuz you park your rig in the Cisco lot, does not mean it is safe. After the store is closed in the evening, there is no one around to see anything that goes on in those two lots.

The parking lot closest to the sled hill has people that sleep up above the mess hall there, and can keep an eye on everything, even their own stuff. I asked~

The parking lot closest to the sled hill has people that sleep up above the mess hall there, and can keep an eye on everything, even their own stuff. I asked~

Yep, but you know how dark it is in there, plus the number of rigs to block the view.

Ok, time to get to drinkin.....

The gate was open last Thanksgiving.