Anyone know?

I can only find 35 and 40 spline dana 60 spools:(

sorry to say but 30 spline 60s are:rainbow:

Originally posted by MIKE S
sorry to say but 30 spline 60s are:rainbow:

bingo

They'll break faster than a stock Toy rear in the right situation. If you weld one your working on borrowed time.

So it sound as though the consensus is that no one makes 30 spline dana 60 spools cause they are ":rainbow: " Thanks for the informative replies. Maybe you could tell me why they make 19 spline dana 44 spools, toyota pickup 30 spline spools, ford nine inch 28 and 31 spline spools....etc


I made a hybrid toy/dana 60 rearend which is why I have a 30 spliner. If I start breaking axles (toy IFS rears) I'll swap in a 35 spline carrier (or air locker) and have Dutchman or moser make me some custom 35 spliners.

This is a cost efficient method of making a 58" WTW 6 lug dana 60 with easily found and cheap axleshafts and 12" brakes (drums but oh well).

TOTAL cost was $180. Here is the price breakdown:$100 Dana60; $50 IFS rear w/o 3rd; carrier bearings $30.

...oh yah and there are NO real rocks in WA...just slippery mud so it is pretty unlikely that it will grenade as soon as if I lived in an area with real rocks.

PS it is welded...I don't want to spend the money on a 30 spline ARB. I will put in the cable controls for my cutting brakes after I get an ARB (35 spline one) .

Originally posted by Tankota
So it sound as though the consensus is that no one makes 30 spline dana 60 spools cause they are ":rainbow: " Thanks for the informative replies. Maybe you could tell me why they make 19 spline dana 44 spools, toyota pickup 30 spline spools, ford nine inch 28 and 31 spline spools....etc

well what other response were you looking for? if they don't make them, they don't make them...why don't they? cuz there isn't demand for them...why don't people want them? cuz they're :rainbow:

-Steve

If spools are :rainbow: then why is everyone running the fawkers then, you guys and your Detroits man them damn things don't unlock half the time, and I have yet to see a spool break I have seen a detroit and an arb break so why the spool bash. What the hell is wrong with running a spool in a 60.

Originally posted by kmgmacgood
If spools are :rainbow: then why is everyone running the fawkers then, you guys and your Detroits man them damn things don't unlock half the time, and I have yet to see a spool break I have seen a detroit and an arb break so why the spool bash. What the hell is wrong with running a spool in a 60.

:rolleyes:

DAN, we are saying that D60 30 spline spools are :rainbow: because they would break axleshafts so often that its not worth it. spools kick ass, but only if your axleshafts can take it.

You guys just kill me with your logic, how is a 30 spline spool going to break shafts more than a 30 spline Detroit Locker!:question: I personally would rather have a spool for my rear 30 spline 60 then weld the carrier and risk :nuke: it up or spending $300 more for a locker that I wouldn't need, no 30 spline 60 spools wouldn't be :rainbow: , the dumb-ass that wasted their money on overpriced parts and custom $$$ 35 spline shaft swaps are :rainbow: . I know plenty of people that run 60 rear's on 38's with 30 spline shafts and have no problems, but hey just because the Hot-rod crowd wasn't turned on to the Dana 60 as much as the numerous 1/2 ton axles that spools were made from is why no one produces them, there is a demand for them in off-road applications but the drivetrain companies would rather you spend more $$$ by getting custom axles too. SO now who's :rainbow: , yeah this is from a "newbie" but you should think more about what you say next time so you don't look like such a dumb-ass :flipoff2:

30 spline rear 60= :nuke: :rainbow: GO 14 bolt and be done but dont forget to shave the pig.:flipoff2:

I know for sure both Lincoln and Miller make 30 spline spools and they are real cheap:flipoff2:

ESAB made my 30 spline 60 spool. Has held up surprisingly well over the last 1.5 years with 38.5's.

When it blows, and 70 will go in it's place, spool courtesy of Miller this time.

Ed

what did a 30 spline 60 come in?
spools were made for drag racing vehicles, 4wheelers have latched on to them.
when this hobby grows up to the aftermarket support that dragracing enjoys you may see more applications available.
a little over 5 years ago you could only get 2 limited slips for 10 bolt chevs, now anything you want is available.
that alone is proof that even if a product is :rainbow: it will still be produced if there is a $ to be made

Originally posted by 66CJdean
I know for sure both Lincoln and Miller make 30 spline spools and they are real cheap:flipoff2:

I'll second that. Miller makes a mighty fine one. :flipoff2:

They'll break faster than a stock Toy rear in the right situation.
Are you saying that a dana 60 will break before a toyota pickup rearend?
The only thing that is the same size on the toy and the 60 is the axles at the splines...and I'm not using spicer axles, I'm using the toy ones in my dana 60 as explained above in my previous post.


I know for sure both Lincoln and Miller make 30 spline spools and they are real cheap

Yep, mine is welded and cost about $2 worth of welding rod.

i would just like to say that 14 bolts suck and i would much rather have to change a 30 spline shaft once every 6 months cause thats about how often it happens its better than havin the 1 1/4 of clearence under your shaved pos 14 bolt there is a reason that hardly any comp rigs sport a 14 bolt and for the competitors who do thats why there never get out of 40th place unless your runnin 44 on a 7000 pound fullsize with 800hp a 14 bolt isnt worth the weight or loss in clearence

Originally posted by rokdog03
i would just like to say that 14 bolts suck and i would much rather have to change a 30 spline shaft once every 6 months cause thats about how often it happens its better than havin the 1 1/4 of clearence under your shaved pos 14 bolt there is a reason that hardly any comp rigs sport a 14 bolt and for the competitors who do thats why there never get out of 40th place unless your runnin 44 on a 7000 pound fullsize with 800hp a 14 bolt isnt worth the weight or loss in clearence


Slow down and take a breath :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

And I'll keep my 14 bolt....thank you :flipoff2:

It looks like Randy's is starting to sell a 30 spline 60 spool. It is listed in their newest catalog. Still :rainbow: though.

i like dean's response.:p

Dont the Toy shafts have a different pressure angle than the Dana's?

Whats your average D60 spool run anyway...$200, + install parts? Isint that 2/3 the cost of some 35 spliners...hmmm I think id spend that money on new shafts and some 35 spline side gears....

Originally posted by rokdog03
i would just like to say that 14 bolts suck

havin the 1 1/4 of clearence under your shaved pos 14 bolt

there is a reason that hardly any comp rigs sport a 14 bolt and for the competitors who do thats why there never get out of 40th place

My 14bolt is only lightly clearanced, not shaved. It is only ~1/2" lower than my HP 60.

Troy Meyers runs a 14bolt in his comp rig. He got 3rd in ERoCC and it was his 1st comp with a new suspesion. He was only bested by Ken Shupe and Chris Durham (narrowly by Durham). He also does not have his 14bolt shaved.

How do yout feet taste newbie :flipoff2: Keep your mouth shut next time :shaking:

actually chris durham rus a rear tera 60r good try though and you can kiss my ass 14s still suck

there's a spool out for the dana 60 30 spliner.. it's made by Lincoln.. part no. 6011 or 7018 both fit..

Originally posted by rokdog03
actually chris durham rus a rear tera 60r good try though and you can kiss my ass 14s still suck
What's wrong having trouble with the big words?? :flipoff2::D
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reread bigdude's post then remove foot from mouth

Originally posted by JEEPRZ
Dont the Toy shafts have a different pressure angle than the Dana's?



yes i belive they do. but you can still stick it in the hole. but you are likely to just strip the splines on the toy shaft easy because of the poor contact area.

JEEPRZ;
"Dont the Toy shafts have a different pressure angle than the Dana's?"

Yes, that can be "adjusted" quite easily in about 5 minutes.


"Whats your average D60 spool run anyway...$200, + install parts? Isint that 2/3 the cost of some 35 spliners...hmmm I think id spend that money on new shafts and some 35 spline side gears...."

You are correct, that is why I welded it until I decide I need to have Dutchman make me some 35 spliners and I pony up for the ARB and 5.38s.


Slotoy,
"there's a spool out for the dana 60 30 spliner.. it's made by Lincoln.. part no. 6011 or 7018 both fit.."

Yah, mine is a 7018.

Camo; "yes i belive they do. but you can still stick it in the hole. but you are likely to just
strip the splines on the toy shaft easy because of the poor contact area."


If you can stick a toy shaft into a spicer side gear then one or both have severly worn splines. If they are still in good shape you won't be able to get them to fit together without regrooving the toy axle splines. Dutchman or moser can do it for the same cost as resplining or you can do it yourself with the shadetree mechanics method (dremel)

Dave I read this yesterday but the dial up disco'ed and erased my big response. I was pissed. Anyway I asked Dean and we both think there is someone who makes a 30 spline d60 spool. I wouldnt recommend it with turning breaks though. Even if you are coasting both wheels will lock up. Sounds like we know what you are installing next winter. ARB, 5.38s, and turning breaks eh?

Here it is... about 1.5 yrs too late for me

http://www.completeoffroad.com/products/i-414.html

The guy that had the big ass jeep on the 46 claws ran a 14 bolt.

Well I did not rear all that because it turned into "that's gay" no "your gay".
The reason is because a 30 splined Dana 60 is not factory and it's not stronger than stock, so no one makes an aftermarket. Weld it up.

Originally posted by EBSTEVE

The reason is because a 30 splined Dana 60 is not factory

What?

so you now have toy axlers in a D60 housing, so you have less ground clearence and there was no reason to upgrade the ring and pinion as it's not a weak point. most you did was get bigger DRUM brakes, you would have been better off keeping the toy axle, going disk brakes, areond $100 and then you have choice of a spool, arb ect. That 60 center and toy axles was always a bad idea...but at least it was cheap:D

P.S. Troy Muse (PIRATE CLUB MEMBER, not bb guy) runs a 14 bolt and competes.

30 spline 60's came 'factory' in International Travelalls. '76-'77 I believe.

Originally posted by rock-rod


30 spline 60's came 'factory' in International Travelalls. '76-'77 I believe.

Like 90% or more of rear D60's came factory 30sp IH, ford, Chevy, dodge, Jeep Whatever:flipoff2:

Oh and on the 14Bs suck youre right; Bullet proof, hella cheap and ability to be shaved to simular ground clearance as a D60 in almost any wheelers garage, yeah they suck major dong:rolleyes:

Originally posted by SeaBass44
so you now have toy axlers in a D60 housing, so you have less ground clearence and there was no reason to upgrade the ring and pinion as it's not a weak point. most you did was get bigger DRUM brakes, you would have been better off keeping the toy axle, going disk brakes, areond $100 and then you have choice of a spool, arb ect. That 60 center and toy axles was always a bad idea...but at least it was cheap:D

Did you not notice this was from June of 2002?

Originally posted by RC Beater
Oh and on the 14Bs suck youre right; Bullet proof, hella cheap and ability to be shaved to simular ground clearance as a D60 in almost any wheelers garage, yeah they suck major dong:rolleyes:
I think a lot of peeps would run a 14B if it went higher than 5.13 and had some selectable lockers for it. hell I would, but a 60 is the best bet, plus I'd be building it costom width, SF, 35 spline, etc etc.

Seapickle, the weak linkI MO on the toyota rear IS the R&P.

Originally posted by Bones

I think a lot of peeps would run a 14B if it went higher than 5.13 and had some selectable lockers for it. hell I would, but a 60 is the best bet, plus I'd be building it costom width, SF, 35 spline, etc etc.

Seapickle, the weak linkI MO on the toyota rear IS the R&P.

Doesn't matter how old the post is:flipoff2: only problem with a toy rear is cheap 5:29 gears:mad: but if you want to upgrade in my opinion that means going __W_I_D_E_R__;)

true, but cheap 60 gears will be damn near bulletproof behind a 22RE and 190:1 though :p

that said I would not go 30 spline 60 over a toyota. I would go to 35 spline at least to make it worth it