Hey guys.....

GIMME SOME FEEDBACK ON THIS:

I have a 1997 Geo Tracker 4WD (green).

Currently, it's stock, but with lots o' changes to come:

I plan on the following:

3" suspension lift.

2" body lift.

1" coil spacers.

That's a total of (if you can't add) 6".

31-33's (gimme feedback here! I need a size decision)

Reason for the coil spacers is due to the fact that there's just too damn much moving stuff to do with a 3" body lift. I want a full 6"! I plan on doing the suspension first.....

I have some questions on the body lift: will I have to relocate the shifters with a 2" lift as you do with a 3" lift?? I would prefer not to! Please tell me what ya know.....

go here it is a sidekick but shows the lift.

http://tellico.off-road.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=offroadsuzuki&Number=805107&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=1#Post805642

Stop making me drool.....

Anway, does anyone know about cutting out and adjusting the shifters with a 2" body lift?? that's the main problem I'm having...I dont wanna do that.

Originally posted by duckmaker
Hey guys.....

GIMME SOME FEEDBACK ON THIS:

I have a 1997 Geo Tracker 4WD (green).

Currently, it's stock, but with lots o' changes to come:

I plan on the following:

3" suspension lift.

2" body lift.

1" coil spacers.

That's a total of (if you can't add) 6".

31-33's (gimme feedback here! I need a size decision)

Reason for the coil spacers is due to the fact that there's just too damn much moving stuff to do with a 3" body lift. I want a full 6"! I plan on doing the suspension first.....

I have some questions on the body lift: will I have to relocate the shifters with a 2" lift as you do with a 3" lift?? I would prefer not to! Please tell me what ya know.....

solid axle swap the bitch!!!! Do it right the first time. I wouldnt fawk with the ifs b.s.

Don't know if you're planning on our 2" kit or not.....

We do offer a free shifter extension for the tranny and tcase for folks that buy the 2" body from us. However, We've sold a ton of them and not had anyone take us up on the offer. When I put the 2" body on my X90, I did extend the shifters just to make everything like stock again, but the shifters still worked fine before doing so.

Any questions on this, please fel free to email us.

Better watch that suspension lift though. 4" of lift is going to be hard on the CV joints.

I'll second the SAS rec.

toyota axles and YJ springs!!
no body lift!
only problem will be gearing..
What has anyone else done with kick SAS for gearing?

2wd tracker tranny and a sammy case with the stock toyota 4.10's?

I am planning on buying the body lift from rockyroad....as for the CV's, I'll think of replacing them. And for everyone wanting me to switch to toyota axles....i'd prefer not to have a toyzuki....sorry, personal feelings (bad probs with Toyotas in the past) :(

Also, I'll take you up on the shifter extensions...be buying right after vacation...(about a month from saturday), so be waiting on me!

I think I can get by with 4" of suspension....I've been told horror stories about 3" of body lift, but I want 6" total. Like I said, the CV's shouldn't be a problem (this isn't an everyday driver as of now...I've got some more toys around).

And one question i've forgotten to mention: am I going to have a hard time fabricating rear bumper brackets so I don't have that huge gap between the bumper and body? or is this fairly easy with some flat stock?:smokin:

Don't mean to offend anyone with the Toyzuki thing....I'm just a purist. :p

And what size tires, guys??? think i'll be able to fit 33's or would 31's be a wiser choice? (what brand of rims and tires are recommended) I think i can get a free set of Super Swamper boggers with about 35 miles of wear...all in driving around lots at shows.

Do not waste the time and money on that stupid 3" lift for, what is it, like 20 grand or something? S A S. I'm right in the middle of my coil suspension on my 92 'Kick. I'm probably going a little more severe than you care to, but here's my run down(for probably the 6th time).
90 4.3 V6 EFI
Nasty TH 350 with 700 rpm converter
Toyota t-case with 4,7 gearset
Dual 60's cut to 63 inches-all 35 spline, 4.88's, spool and a Detroit
38x14.50 Super Swamper SX's
Hydro assist
6" lift XJ coils
Dual Platinum 9500's(unless I have to sell one to fund this POS!)

If I don't get some pics up soon, I am going to officially be a poser, as I keep telling everyone what I'm working on, but have no proof!
Here are a couple of older, small ones, but atleast they prove it's real!

In these pics, you can KIND OF see the Scout II steering box complete with fittings for the hydro assist. You can also make out the GM Hydroboost mastercylinder, and my shiny new Optima with 24K terminals! Bling-Bling :D

3" suspension being bought from a friend: $200 with his help installing it...so I'm not too worried about the deal...btw, nice job there (i will be going extreme on a sammi as soon as the tracker is done...the tracker will eventually be the family toy)

When I begin, i'll post you some pics....haven't done much yet, but having fun doin' it. This is my first suki mod job, so be easy on me.....i AM doin' it right the first time.....right for the use of the vehicle....the next one might be tubed but i dunno yet.

dan

I would also do the solid axle ive wheeled with one in moab and it was cool Josh

Originally posted by duckmaker
And one question i've forgotten to mention: am I going to have a hard time fabricating rear bumper brackets so I don't have that huge gap between the bumper and body? or is this fairly easy with some flat stock?:smokin: [/B]


You going to run stock bumpers? If so, the factory steel bumper inners (the channel behind the factory plastic) are easily modified to fit snug to the rasied body with a 2" lift. A little sawzall and some new mounting holes and the bumpers will have a factory fit. Probably take you about 30 minutes front and rear.

If you're going with aftermarket bumpers, different story......

You are kidding yourself. With 3 inch lift plus another 1 inch coil spacer you will have CV problems. Maybe not right away, but... "if you build it, they will come".
SAS all the way.
MudKickAss

CV problems aren't a worry....you've got me convinced now dammit!!! In a month or so, SAS for me. So 2" body and SAS.... perhaps YJ coils?? I only want it to go up 4" suspension....the sammi can take the 495239487489237498237" lift i've got planned for it....:rasta:

Another question: I have an engine I plan on force-feeding a sammi...does a GOOD body and frame (not wrecked, no rust) for $275 sound OK to you guys???

AND yeah, for the moment, it's stock bumpers, but soon to be a winch bumper on front. Decided on 33's and super swampers (lots o' good mud here as well as some decent rock to my soutwest a bit)

BTW, body lift is a MUST, I need to do it for future plans......so don't flame me for doing the SAS with a body lift.....:P

As much as I like the Calmini 3" Suspension lift I must agree that more is better. The CV'sare already maxed out with the Calmini kit, Boosters would fuck shit up.

SAS is the way to go. Mainly because you can move the front axle foward. I plan on doing a SAS on another 4DR as soon as i get my tools paid off. I am going to build what suzuki should have built in the first place(detail being finalized.)

Happy wheeling.

Defiantely do the SAS. More WV peopel keep sprouting up on here. By the way YJ's dont have coils, YJ's have leaves. Tj's have coils. Build the sammi too & bring it down this way & start wheeling:D

Newbie:flipoff2:

So what's the story behind the mandatory body lift?

Originally posted by twistedmetal
So what's the story behind the mandatory body lift?

I agree with a body being (relatively speaking, of course) a must.

First off, the rockers hang down way too low on a sidekick, 2 inch BL makes nice room for mandatory nurfs.

Second, if you do a full out axle swap, the additional clearance allowes for some nicely tucked frame reinforcments and brackets, particularly in the rear.
IMHO, that is.

Although I haven't tried anything with the Wrangler coils, I'm going to guess you'll get alot more than 4" of lift by going with them.

I've used 1" lift Grand Cherokee springs on my Sidekick (an incredible 140lb progressive spring rate) and when complete it'll be about 9-10" of lift.

Now I'm not sure..... but I could swear where I've talked with some ZJ guys over the years that have used TJ coils for extra lift height. If this is the case, then your Wrangler springs are going to be taller than the Grand Cherokee springs which are already REALLY BIG if you're only shooting for 4" of lift.

That's not to say that you couldn't cut them down though.


.....I should also add that my Sidekick has D44's front and rear.

Originally posted by cooljosh
I would also do the solid axle ive wheeled with one in moab and it was cool Josh

Just out of curiosity, what type of setup was the one you wheeled with in Moab like? Was he running coils F/R or leafs? More and more solid axled sidekicks are out there now, any pics of that one?

Hey Glenn, hows your sidekick coming along?

Ryan Gates
92 Sidekick (sami axle front, kinda)

Originally posted by twistedmetal
I'm probably going a little more severe than you care to, but here's my run down(for probably the 6th time).
90 4.3 V6 EFI
Nasty TH 350 with 700 rpm converter
Toyota t-case with 4,7 gearset
Dual 60's cut to 63 inches-all 35 spline, 4.88's, spool and a Detroit
38x14.50 Super Swamper SX's
Hydro assist
6" lift XJ coils
Dual Platinum 9500's(unless I have to sell one to fund this POS!)



That's a hell of alot of 'unsprung' weight

Originally posted by mini4by
toyota axles and YJ springs!!
no body lift!
only problem will be gearing..
What has anyone else done with kick SAS for gearing?

2wd tracker tranny and a sammy case with the stock toyota 4.10's?


SAS kick w/toy axles (4.11's) Toy t-case mated to a kick case courtesy of O.T.T. industries. Wrangler (YJ) springs and a bad attitude.

www.jp008.com/brettskick.html

Edited--when you SAS MOVE the front axle forward. 33's will clear with no problem:D

Oh I forgot to mention NO body lift........

Originally posted by Titanium


That's a hell of alot of 'unsprung' weight

:rolleyes: , Whatever. Seemed to work REAL well in my other rigs.

Well, I'll be damned. That's MY Sidekick thats in that thread from off-road.com... Here's my deal. I did NOT want to go SAS, for a lot of reasons. Here is what I went through:

The 3" body lift causes some "interesting" problems. The xfer case shifter needs to be extended - the kit includes the extension (weld-on). The tranny shifter is supposed to be bent to work better. With the factory shift knob on the tranny, the bitch pops out of gear all the time. Replaced it with a Spidertrax billet aluminum knob - problem solved.

My suggestion is to lose the factory bumper alltogether. I'm going to go with a square tube, with a swing-out spare carrier - the back door of a Sidekick is not designed to carry the weight of a 32 X 9.50 Super Swamper. If you don't like the looks of the body where the bumper used to be, maybe you can wrap it in some diamond-plate or something. Much easier than trying to screw with mating the bumper to the body. Also, mounting the bumper in the factory position will not limit your departure angle, and it lowers the position of the spare (if you mount it on the bumper), increasing visibility to the rear. The factory position of the rear bumper is ABOVE the frame crossmember, which is the limiting factor on your departure angle.

The Calmini suspension lift is STIFF. Down-side, is that it is a rough ride. Up-side is that even with the full 6" lift, and factory sway-bar installed, it still corners well on mountain roads. Now it only takes removing a couple of 14mm nuts to disconnect the sway bar, but then your threads are left exposed to mud & stuff while you wheel. I'm gonna get Philip Berg's (Rotational Dynamics) sway bar disconnect for mine - it's still a prototype, so that'll take some waiting.

Things Calmini doesn't tell you: With their 3" body lift, it was necessary to fab an extension to the steering column. No big deal, just a surprise, and may not be needed on all Track/Kicks.

I guess that's more than my .02 worth, but there it is. I LOVE my Calmini 6" lift. Still testing the performance, because I haven't laid out the $1,000 or so for new wheels & tires yet - still running factory. It seems to just crawl over everything in it's path.