: Neal Cutting (turning) Brakes - info?


cmk
06-18-2002, 05:09 PM
I'm trying to dig up some info (tech, part numbers, prices) on Neal cutting brakes. I've looked all over the dune buggy pages and have found nothing more than Neal seems to be the company to go with.

Does anyone have any info on these guys (website, etc.)?

cmk

Go2Guy
06-19-2002, 09:50 AM
I bought my CNC brand cutting brake through McKenzies 714 441 1212. I'm real happy with them, a few others in my area running them too. Good luck!

cmk
06-19-2002, 10:29 AM
I saw the CNC stuff, but I didn't see anywhere that they made cutting brakes. All I saw were standard pedal assemblies.

Does the brake you own have the single inlet and dual outlet?

Also, do you have a p/n for it that I can use as reference?

cmk

Go2Guy
06-19-2002, 11:23 AM
Yea, one in, two out, two handles, mine are vert or near vert, they also have one that's about 15 degrees off the deck.

Mine is P/N cnc-452AR3/4

3/4 is the bore size which works great with my GM calipers. Even with big calipers you typically are on the foot breaks 1st which takes care of the volume, then you lean on which ever lever you want or both and release the foot breaks... you get it I'm sure.

cmk
06-19-2002, 11:54 AM
Yulp, I got it. I was just wondering if the "1 in, 2 out" is something unique to one particular setup or if that is a standard setup. I'm still trying to find some good sand rail info pages, but I'm not comin' up with much.

Speaking of bore size; for "rockcrawling" purposes and large rear discs, what is ideal, large bore or small bore? The smaller bore will exert a greater line pressure for a given "hand pressure" which would be helpful for locking up large tires. I'd be concerned that the small bore may not push enough fluid to move 1-ton calipers. Then you're gonna' be stuck doing what you said, "pumping the foot brake to move the fluid and then pulling the cutting brake to lock the wheel."

I'd sooner have a setup where I don't have to worry about the foot brake ... just pull the appropriate cutting brake and lock a wheel.

Any thoughts? Any one? Bueler?

Edit: I have found that "they" recommend 5/8" bore for drums and 3/4" bore for discs. I've never though about this or asked since I never needed an answer before, but what takes more flow to operate; discs or drums? Along those lines, which takes more pressure to operate; discs or drums? According to what "they" say, am I correct in assuming that discs take more flow and less pressure to operate than a similar drum brake?

cmk

Go2Guy
06-19-2002, 12:07 PM
3/4 is the biggest CNC makes for that cutting brake. One shot of the foot brakes is all it takes, then you piggy back the pressure.

I can run my GM 1/2 tons no problem with hand brake alone.

good luck!

wes
06-19-2002, 05:13 PM
this place has them www.bugsandbuggies.com
But these things are expensive. There has got to be somthing cheaper but i'm not sure where to look.

cmk
06-19-2002, 07:49 PM
Yeah I saw them guys yesterday. I really wish they gave more info, pics, etc on the Neal units.

Pricewise .... $150 for a full setup isn't that bad. Add another $10 worth of hard line and some fittings and you're good to go with a sweet cutting brake setup ... no messing around with two $30 line locks, switches, wires, etc.

Oh, and you'll probably have to throw some more flex lines in there as well, but for those of us with access to a full race shop, that's no problemo. :flipoff2:

cm "I'd hit it" k