I have an 83 CJ-7 with a 6 & 1/2 inch lift The springs are 4 inches. I want to do a SOA and am wondering if i can still use the same leaf springs and just get smaller shackles. They are pro comp leaf springs( i know procrap but I dont care if it is stiff) Would these work for a SOA. I also have the pro comp 3000 shocks would these work or do i need to get some rancho 9000;s or something. Also I have been reading alot about steering problems and axle wrap on yj's but not on cj's. So would these issues need to be addressed or would i be ok w/o them. Thank in advance:usa:

A 4"spring with the SOA will give you at least 8 inches of lift plus the 2 1/2 more you have somewhere. What size tires are you trying to run? :eek:

classicrockcj -

Could you use the 4" leafs? You could, do you want to? That's an entirely different question. As the previous reply mentioned, you'd get at least 8" of lift... That is probably conservative.

Planning taller tires? Wider axles? I (personally) wouldn't run a CJ on 4" springs SOA with out going WAY wider on the axles.

See this TOTW (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32963&highlight=TOTW) for lots more SOA info.

Since this is your first post, you should also check out the search feature. There is tons of information, you just have to be willing to go look for it, and save your self a harsh flamefest :D

You should also go read the Jeep mission statement (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1456) thread for an idea of how this board works..

Welcome newbie :flipoff2: :D

Yeah man do it. Just go SOA with those 4" springs, keep your stock CJ axles, run some 35" tires. I see that sh!t all the time, it really gets a lot of looks, totally RAD:rolleyes:

Oh yeah, CJs don't get axle wrap, just YJs:shaking: :shaking:

I have an 85 cj-7 and i did the soa for my second lift and beware of the fact that your leaves will flatten, in fact i bought wrangler springs thinking they were stiffer then my stockers and they flattened after only less then a year. i even ran add-a-leaves to try and stop it. I'm now running Toyota leaves on my front thinking that they are made to be on soa rigs since all toys are and they are even starting to flatten after only 8 months. since your thinking of soa you should also think about reversal shackle and moving your front mounts out 2 inches or so so when you run 35's in the future they wont bash into the back or your fender wells. my wheel base is now 99 inches. ( i moved my rear back alittle and i dont recommend that since i had gas tank relocation problems with that.) I also bought r9000 and they and they didn't seem to make a big difference, if your pros are long enough i would try them before you shell out 320$ on new shocks. you will want to do some sort of sway bar with it since you will have body roll. I also did 3/4 liptic on the rear for another 6-8 inches of farther climb.

Ok.. I'm going to be the ass here:

1) Don't SOA, you have no clue about why you SOA over running lifted springs. (Its obvious in your question)

2) this question... you should have used the search feature.

3) How is one leaf sprung vehicle different from another? your going to have axle wrap problems in both. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by classicrockcj
I have an 83 CJ-7 with a 6 & 1/2 inch lift The springs are 4 inches. I want to do a SOA and am wondering if i can still use the same leaf springs and just get smaller shackles. They are pro comp leaf springs( i know procrap but I dont care if it is stiff) Would these work for a SOA. I also have the pro comp 3000 shocks would these work or do i need to get some rancho 9000;s or something. Also I have been reading alot about steering problems and axle wrap on yj's but not on cj's. So would these issues need to be addressed or would i be ok w/o them. Thank in advance:usa:

Sorry Dude but most of this thinking is fawked up.
Maybe you SHOULD care if those Prochumps are stiff, they won't flex well. So with the rig sitting up so high, you encounter a rock under a tire and flop over instead of walking over it.
YJ's and CJ's are both leaf sprung so yes, you need to address the wrap issue.
The higher you lift almost any vehicle, sooner or later you'll have steering issues to deal with as well.
The one issue you overlooked is the driveline angle problem.
So unless you've stretched it, it's still a short wheel-base.........CJ's have that too.
What tires are you trying to clear?

Wow, You guys have gone easy on this guy...

classicrockcj, The whole shock thing, if your "3000's" aren't long enough, get some longer ones its as simple as that.
your jeep will look like an old fashioned box truck with that muck lift and stock axles.
Heres a good cheap setup: 2.5" YJ pro comp (cheap) springs SOA shackle reverse. You'll clear 35's

Originally posted by WideJ
Wow, You guys have gone easy on this guy...

classicrockcj, The whole shock thing, if your "3000's" aren't long enough, get some longer ones its as simple as that.
your jeep will look like an old fashioned box truck with that muck lift and stock axles.
Heres a good cheap setup: 2.5" YJ pro comp (cheap) springs SOA shackle reverse. You'll clear 35's

Dam man, he's driving a CJ. With that setup he'll clear a lot more then 35s! :D It'll flop over as often as that box truck too.

If he's smart he'll read the TOTW I pointed him to before making any decisions... It'll same him a lot of grief. If not :nuke: :nuke:

Bottom line guy... what size tires are you looking to fit?

That dictates lift, gearing, axles, trimming.

Lift dictates what to do for drivelines, and steering.

btw - on a CJ, trim out the fenders for TJ flares (if you are running flares) and you can fit a bigger tire with 2" less lift than you would normally need for the same size tire. (ok.. that didn' make sense)

I agree, This person should not attempt a SOA. Its obvious he has no idea

Thanks everybody for all the info I didnt mean to come off as some sort of dumbass who had no clue what he was doing. Anyway i did some researching and reading and decided not to a soa with my procrap springs. I decided to use my stock cj springs that i had laying around which should be fine for the 35 swampers i have. I already have a 4 inch drop pitman arm and cv shaft. Again thanks for all the replys i would have made a mistake with the 4 inch springs.

How bout that, no whining, no crying.
Just sat back, took a closer look with more reading and research.
The right way to do it.
Looks like you found the right route to take on your SOA.
Good luck, Newbie

Originally posted by doctor_G
How bout that, no whining, no crying.
Just sat back, took a closer look with more reading and research.
The right way to do it.
Looks like you found the right route to take on your SOA.
Good luck, Newbie

I second that