: Back bone and Wraptor spring wrap eliminator
DIY4X 10-10-2007, 10:41 AM Designed to fit a 14BFF axle and easily adapted to fit under most vehicles. To date we've built the crossmember to fit 67 - 91 full size chevy's. Theres a couple guys that have bought them for jeeps and we helped them get the crossmember right but never heard back how it worked out.
Here's a couple shots of the back bone portion.
And a couple shots of the Wraptor anti wrap bar.
http://diy4x.com/cart/image/cache/Drive%20Train%20Front%20View%20(Main%20Category)-400x400.jpg
The backbone and Wraptor are listed seperately on the website.
http://xrtyjd
The backbone itself is essentially an axle truss. We have set this up to incorporate link attachment points as well as our own anti wrap bar so this can also be custom tailored. Tied in to the pinion housing and the diff cover surface. The axle clamps themselves are an extremely tight fit and use grade 9 hardware.
Available with or without the Guardsman pinion guard.
$210.00 - $217.00
The warptor anti wrap bar is attached to the frame via a 6" wristed shackle and crossmember. This provides optimum misalignment when your flexing it hard! All our testing... it absolutely will not hinder flex.
$275.00 - $288.00 Depending on application.
Won't be too long and you'll be seeing some more pictures of this on Pirate.
The Original Guardsman! 1/2" thick steel construction and the pieces are milled to fit together and provide the ultimate joint strength.
http://www.diy4x.com/images/ford9guardsman3.jpg
Available for the 14BFF and Ford 9" axles. We also have a Beta release for the old Eaton axle.
All of these clear 1410 ujoints without yoke removal.
$65
Grendel 10-30-2007, 12:03 PM I got one of these for a K5 project we're building (71 with one tons).
After receiving it, I want the full set up for the Dog, too.
Truly a nice system: I do have a couple of tweaks though. I would like to make the pinion bracket part of the pinion guard. Like we did on the k5, I'd also like the lower shock mounts to be a part of the lower clamp.
Thanks, Kert.
DIY4X 10-31-2007, 07:04 AM Good to hear you are happy with the product Grendel.
All of what you have suggested is doable for sure.
Only reason we left the pinion guard a seperate piece, for the guys that have already purchased the pinion guard. Not difficult to put the two together though!
I wish we had talked about shock mounts previous to the original shipment. I think we got ya taken care of though. :) Your original lower clamp halves will end up on my dually! Like the dually needs and anti wrap bar!:D
This system is pretty extensive guys! Let me know what you are trying to accomplish and ask lots of questions. Theres lots of things we can do with this kit.
4 link mounts can be built in, upper and lower no problem.
Shock mounts can be built in. The eye can be parallel or perpendiular to the axle.
What I'm trying to say is there's lots of options!
14bff complete set shipped to 95832.Thanks.
d60 kit any time soon?Or ?
DIY4X 11-01-2007, 12:05 PM uda,
PM sent.
Dana 60 one is on the drawing board. Could be a little while though.
Nickm 11-03-2007, 05:21 PM website not working.
DIY4X 11-05-2007, 11:06 PM website not working.
Had a server move that took a little longer than expected. It's up again now. thanks for the heads up though.
Nickm 11-28-2007, 12:27 AM Can you PM me a price on the ring and the lillte bracket its bolted to? I have my truss and link bracket already I just need to tie it into the ring..
http://www.diy4x.com/images/antiwrap3.jpg
Thanks Do you have a ring for a D60? If so lemme have a price on it as well.
DIY4X 06-19-2008, 06:45 AM Get it!
Grendel 06-19-2008, 07:45 AM The other thing, this system isn't Chevy only:
here's one installed in my YJ on XJ springs, with a Corp 14B rear.
Kert built this one with a pinion guard (Guardian) built into the truss plate and built in shock mounts.
No Wrap. No suspension hindrance. You can also see that we frenched the springs into the frame, this is a fairly low slung Jeep!
DIY4X 06-19-2008, 07:16 PM Thanks for posting up the pics Grendel.
DIY4X 10-07-2008, 06:36 PM Good cold day project here!
DIY4X 12-26-2008, 05:40 PM We've added some options to these to save you guys some of your hard earned cash.
Weld to the axle tube rather than clamp on and save $85.00!
itchy 12-27-2008, 05:14 PM Kert I see you built one of these units for Grendel's YJ.
I have a CJ with XJ springs on a 14 bolt and was interested in one of your units. How much would something like this cost for a CJ? I'm assuming that it would be the same as Grendels, correct? I like how the pinion gaurd is built into the truss.
Thanks in advance, Keith.
DIY4X 12-27-2008, 08:15 PM Kert I see you built one of these units for Grendel's YJ.
I have a CJ with XJ springs on a 14 bolt and was interested in one of your units. How much would something like this cost for a CJ? I'm assuming that it would be the same as Grendels, correct? I like how the pinion gaurd is built into the truss.
Thanks in advance, Keith.
Pretty much the same. Only real difference in setting it up for you CJ is the crossmember, which may be the same as Grendel's. Perhaps width of the Back Bone truss depending on your perch spacing and that sort of thing. Call me, we'll set it up.
Grendel 12-27-2008, 09:03 PM Pretty much the same. Only real difference in setting it up for you CJ is the crossmember, which may be the same as Grendel's. Perhaps width of the Back Bone truss depending on your perch spacing and that sort of thing. Call me, we'll set it up.
Crossmember would be different as the CJ frame is narrower. It is boxed, like a YJ frame though.
DIY4X 12-27-2008, 09:20 PM Crossmember would be different as the CJ frame is narrower. It is boxed, like a YJ frame though.
Both good and bad there. Crossmember could be tucked up inside of a boxed frame pretty easily. Also would require drilling through both sides and sliding in some bushings to weld into the frame to keep it from crushing under bolt tension.
K5onsteriods 12-27-2008, 10:47 PM Im wondering how this setup affects the compresion of the suspension. does it inhibit uptravel at all? I am building a similar system and want to get the full amount of travel up and down and still get rid of any axle wrap. All traction bar and lader bar sets I have seen restrict your suspension travel one way or another. I have a set of L&L ladder bars and a set of Rancho traction bars and do not want to use either just for those reasons. I have 4.88 gears lockers and six inch springs on my Blazer and I want to eliminate axle wrap without sacrificing any travel. Any help on this would be great. Thanks
itchy 12-28-2008, 10:48 AM Both good and bad there. Crossmember could be tucked up inside of a boxed frame pretty easily. Also would require drilling through both sides and sliding in some bushings to weld into the frame to keep it from crushing under bolt tension.
The rear of my CJ frame is long gone:D, It is 2x4 tubing from the behind the front seats, planned on going coilovers until I seen how well the XJ springs perform, but the only problem being axel wrap, and it seems like you have the cure for this.The frame is 33.5" inside, I have not made a crossmember for the t-case yet. Making crush sleevees are no problem, but would it be better to weld a seperate crossmeber in for the traction bar, or just bolt one in. I'm good either way.
Grendel do you have any pics of your crossmember on your YJ? Is your traction bar crossmember attached to your skidplate, or is it a seperate crossmember? I'm sure I could make a unit like yours work on my rig with a little work.
Grendel 12-28-2008, 11:46 AM The rear of my CJ frame is long gone:D, It is 2x4 tubing from the behind the front seats, planned on going coilovers until I seen how well the XJ springs perform, but the only problem being axel wrap, and it seems like you have the cure for this.The frame is 33.5" inside, I have not made a crossmember for the t-case yet. Making crush sleevees are no problem, but would it be better to weld a seperate crossmeber in for the traction bar, or just bolt one in. I'm good either way.
Grendel do you have any pics of your crossmember on your YJ? Is your traction bar crossmember attached to your skidplate, or is it a seperate crossmember? I'm sure I could make a unit like yours work on my rig with a little work.
Should be easy enough then. I'll tell you, I love my XJ springs, I have 16" of travel in the front and my rear isn't that far behind. My cross member through bolts into the frame and the skid plate bolts onto it.. I prefer removable cross members, myself... makes getting components like my T-case out far easier.
itchy 12-28-2008, 12:23 PM Forgot to ask earlier. DIY, with my frame being a little narrower than a YJ, will the backbone fit between my perches, or is this something you can work around when I get you all the measurments to build this? Like I said, my frame is 33.5" inside, so my rear perches on the axel will be the same.
DIY4X 01-01-2009, 11:22 PM Forgot to ask earlier. DIY, with my frame being a little narrower than a YJ, will the backbone fit between my perches, or is this something you can work around when I get you all the measurments to build this? Like I said, my frame is 33.5" inside, so my rear perches on the axel will be the same.
We can easily adjust for this. No problem!
lizard lips 01-06-2009, 07:36 PM Can I get a price of the two plates that bolt together from the front pinion to the tube
DIY4X 01-08-2009, 08:14 PM Can I get a price of the two plates that bolt together from the front pinion to the tube
Got ya squared away on this one correct? Or was it someone else on the phone today?
lizard lips 01-09-2009, 01:51 AM No, that was me:D. Looking forward to getting my junk done and this will help. Thanks again.
mental-elf 02-13-2009, 04:35 PM so the whole unit is the backbone, wraptor and the gaurdian?
does the wraptor come with the front crossmember?
whats the whole price for a 75 blazer set-up?
DIY4X 02-13-2009, 08:09 PM so the whole unit is the backbone, wraptor and the gaurdian?
does the wraptor come with the front crossmember?
whats the whole price for a 75 blazer set-up?
The Backbone, Wraptor and Gaurdman are sold separately.
Yes, the Wraptor does come with the front cross member.
The price really depends on what options you need. Give us a call and we'd be more than happy to discuss it further.:D
DIY4X 03-18-2009, 06:37 PM Top
DIY4X 03-29-2009, 11:23 AM Thanks for all the orders!! These are pretty hot right now:smokin:
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BobCat5.0 06-13-2009, 03:33 PM I saw that you did a cj ,I've got a 82 cj7 with a 14bolt full floater rear how much for the whole setup
DIY4X 06-16-2009, 07:19 PM I saw that you did a cj ,I've got a 82 cj7 with a 14bolt full floater rear how much for the whole setup
Price would be the same as our short wheelbase model,
Wraptor short wheel base - $288.-
Backbone for the 14BFF short wheel base no clamps - $137.00
Ships 2 boxes estimate on shipping, $50ish
Thanks!
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DIY4X 11-05-2009, 05:20 PM Looks like we need some fresh pics for this thread. I'll snap some tomorrow. Got the original unit back in the shop for a few days.
DIY4X 12-17-2009, 07:25 AM Thanks for the orders.
jeepms77 12-21-2009, 04:52 PM please post some more pics
Grendel 12-21-2009, 05:06 PM Some of mine, on the K5.
Grendel 12-21-2009, 05:26 PM The one installed on my YJ:
DIY4X 12-28-2009, 06:39 AM Been getting the asked alot lately,
"would this work as a base for a 4 link setup?"
Absolutely! Done it many times. Generally I only change up one piece. The upper plate on the pinion tie in. I like to make that a bit wider for a bit more room to fit you ends with tabs and such.
DIY4X 01-20-2010, 06:59 AM Thanks for the orders!!
DIY4X 10-23-2010, 11:57 PM Got a little carried away with the skinny pedal, springs are wasted and tore the bottom off of the shock absorbers. Guess I'll be installing one of these on my own rig.
If you have spring wrap, don't do like I did and try to get by.
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