My TH400 bit the dust. 1987 suburban with a small block 350, 400 and a 208 behind it. I've never been big on slush boxes but I'm not against them either. A local shop wants $1600 to replace the transmission with a rebuilt one. For that price, I'll go buy a cheap car and sell the suburban or keep it until I can afford to fix it.

I've been doing some googling and it appears that the SM465 also came with a 208 behind it at some point. Would it be stupid to source a 465 and swap that in? I know I'd have to swap the bell housing, flywheel, get a clutch kit, transmission, 465 -> 208 adapter (stock part) and make sure I get a 465 with a 32 spline output.

The swap doesn't intimidate me, but I really wonder if it is worth it. Should I just find a cheap used TH400 to replace the blown one? Or should I go with the swap?

The truck is completely stock, leans 2" to the left and has 250k miles on it with a new crate motor at 200k miles. I like the truck plenty but I'm wondering if I haven't reached the point of diminishing returns with it.

I guess a bit of advice for a relative n00b would be welcomed. I expect to get flamed, so bring it on.
Thanks guys

it all depends. what are you doing with the truck? DD, off road, weekend warrior, what?

Hmm I guess I should have specified that! Its been a daily driver but I think that I'll be replacing it with a car for now. My wife needs something zippy to drive around in. I will use it for a commuter to work at times but most likely it'll sit at home and on weekends I'll pound some dirt with it, but nothing too serious.

I'll never go rock crawling in the canonical sense, but I may take some more challenging roads if I can. I plan on up to 2" of lift and 33's or 35's, but nothing massive. I wouldn't do anyting more difficult than a rocky section of a road.

In fact what I may end up doing is just leave the suspension stock and fit some bigger tires, it looks like it'll take bigger ones without a lift. I just need to level it out. New springs on the left side should do it. Then of course new shocks. I want to leave as much of the truck stock as possible, but I am unsure of the transmission set up. I like the transmission for going on flats and climing hills, but going down hills was murder on my brakes.

EDIT: It'll also get family duty when the snow is out and the roads are icy. And to give you an idea of how simple I plan on keeping things: It has auto hubs. I know all about auto hubs. I plan on keeping them until they break.

Unless it's totaly Fubar
The th400 can be rebuilt for a couple hundo..
As long as YOU pull it

That price is high. I spent $600 on a healthy T-400. Over the counter. R&R should be no more than $400. My .02, Mark

Hmmm interesting. I'll look into getting it rebuilt by a different shop. I'll do some calling around.

I do have the opportunity to use this as a trans swap project. Should I or will it not matter? I *really* like the low gears of a SM465/208 combo... anyone?

a buddy of mine owns a trans shop.

he charges a minimum of 650 bucks for a rebuilt th400, if you carry it out and do the install yourself. he will charge up to 1200 bucks for one, if you want to go into the smallest detail and get every upgrade there is... he will sell you one with all the bells and whistles and an NP205 attached for 1700... with a 6 month/6000 mile warranty.

if you find one for 400 bucks, be prepared to do it again. and again. and again.

a reputable shop will charge a pretty penny, because their reputation is on the line. sure, you can get a cheapo trans from a flyby night operation. you get what you pay for. oh.. AAMCO provides factory level rebuilds, most of the time, without shift kits, improvements, and other things that make the trans live, like the 34 element sprag and hardened race that yours doesnt have.

Wow, my eyes are being opened. Thank you SO MUCH. I am grateful! I'll be looking further into a trans swap with a 465/208. The worst part will be getting the drivelines shortened and lengthened.

I need to find out what years of trucks to look for that have that combo. Will my t-case fit a 465 as long as I grab the adapter with the trans? I may end up taking as much as I can from a single truck on 1/2 day at pick'n'pull ;)

You're gonna have at least 1600. in doing the conversion. Bellhousing, flywheel, clutch, underdash pedal assy. hydraulics, trans itself, adaptor, tcase, shifter, drivelines.

Wow, my eyes are being opened. Thank you SO MUCH. I am grateful! I'll be looking further into a trans swap with a 465/208. The worst part will be getting the drivelines shortened and lengthened.

I need to find out what years of trucks to look for that have that combo. Will my t-case fit a 465 as long as I grab the adapter with the trans? I may end up taking as much as I can from a single truck on 1/2 day at pick'n'pull ;)

1968-1991 (and probably beyond that date) were available with the sm465/np205

there was a change in 87 to a round faced 205, and a different female 32 splined input shaft than the th400 used from 80-87. pre-87 were shorter by about 2 1/2 inches overall. with the later model stuff, you get more length, 32 spline inputs.

Unless it's totaly Fubar
The th400 can be rebuilt for a couple hundo..
As long as YOU pull it


yeah no kidding. i just had my 85 th400 rebuilt. heavy sprag, heavy clutches, shift kit and some other garbage. $445. i had to pull it and bring it in of course

Do not ever listen to a person like Grumpy old fart. Why you ask? Because he just made one of the dumbest blanket statement's I have ever heard. There are many shops that will rebuild these transmission's for a very fair price. Because his buddy Charges $1200.00 buck's does not mean your getting a better tranny. The price on R&R is cheap because the tranny is so simple, parts are cheap and they are very common. The price on a maual conversion and amount of work required is gonna be high. My opinion look around for a reputable and resonable shop, rebuild it and order a brand new tourqe converter
(such as B&M) from summit. Just my two cent's!!

Do not ever listen to a person like Grumpy old fart. Why you ask? Because he just made one of the dumbest blanket statement's I have ever heard. There are many shops that will rebuild these transmission's for a very fair price. Because his buddy Charges $1200.00 buck's does not mean your getting a better tranny. The price on R&R is cheap because the tranny is so simple, parts are cheap and they are very common. The price on a maual conversion and amount of work required is gonna be high. My opinion look around for a reputable and resonable shop, rebuild it and order a brand new tourqe converter
(such as B&M) from summit. Just my two cent's!!

wow. 1200 bucks gets you a freakin transbrake. it gets you Alto clutches, it gets you everything you could imagine needing in this trans. 1200 bucks is a lot of money to me. T

That price doesnt include R&R. thats because it has EVERYTHING you could want........

His prices are negotiable considering exactly what upgrades you want. if you wanted straight cut gears to turn it into a 475, thats an upgrade, and it will cost you.

I wasnt quoting any other transmission shop. I wasnt even giving you a definite number on his shop. I do know that you can get a th400 for 650 bucks carryout, with a warranty. and yes, that does come with a new converter.

want a blanket statement?

Rockbuggy has his head up his fourth point of contact.

thats a blanket statement. pretty accurate one too.

I never said shit about a conversion to a 4 speed regarding cost. I only provided info. I didnt even tell him NOT to change it out.

Actually I was refering to (Quote) if you find on for 400 bucks, be prepared to do it again. and again. and again.
That is a blanket statement saying any th400 that is rebuilt for 400 buck's is garbage.
So you keep writing book's on every post about how you know everything, but when it comes down to it your full of it.
I have my head up my forth point of contact? Dude that was award winning!!!!!!!!!

Actually I was refering to (Quote) if you find on for 400 bucks, be prepared to do it again. and again. and again.
That is a blanket statement saying any th400 that is rebuilt for 400 buck's is garbage.
So you keep writing book's on every post about how you know everything, but when it comes down to it your full of it.
I have my head up my forth point of contact? Dude that was award winning!!!!!!!!!

award winning? na! funny as shit though! you get exactly what you pay for is all I can say.

Actually I was refering to (Quote) if you find on for 400 bucks, be prepared to do it again. and again. and again.
That is a blanket statement saying any th400 that is rebuilt for 400 buck's is garbage.
So you keep writing book's on every post about how you know everything, but when it comes down to it your full of it.
I have my head up my forth point of contact? Dude that was award winning!!!!!!!!!

anyone can rebuild a 400 for 400 bucks. guess what, there werent any improvements done to it, so youre gonna have to suffer with less than perfect results.

ok, lets have you tell us exactly what upgrades you would do to a th400 that was made in 1987? what does it need to make it better? what are its deficiencies? How many clutches were in the forward drum? how do you upgrade it using stock parts? does it have a 34 element sprag? does it have a snap ring in the case? what does that snap ring do?

what qualifies you to criticise my posts? are you an ASE certified transmission tech? Are you gods gift to mechanics? show me what you know. Provide some tech to the post, or shut the fuck up.


Anyone can give smartassed answers. if you think you know something, why arent you answering the questions? are you too good for it? Do you think your god like knowledge makes you better than the rest of us? put up or shut up.

oh, and if youre really good, you know where the "fourth point of contact" phrase comes from.

rockbuggy, your right he does deserve an award,
















for being one of the most knowlegdable posters on this site you fawking tard.

hes right , go get a $400 used or hack rebuild, see how far it gets you. it may last forever, it may last 2 weeks. are you willing to do it over and over to save coin?

there is a ton of inprovements that can be made, th400s are a strong tranny but like everthing there is lots of thing that should be beefed if you want to abuse it.


[on topic]

for a dd and light wheeler you would be better off just rebuilding the turbo tranny, and not doing a full weekend thrash fest on a truck you are not sure you even want to keep. there is alot of work going into a 465 swap,

1 you still have to pull your tranny
2 you have to pull your steering colomn out or down enough to get your pedals out and the new clutch pedals in.
3 you still have to fork over for a 465 setup.
4 the hydro cluutch stuff is cool but pretty hard to come by unless you buy all new parts$$$$$
5 cut out for the shifter, depending on how your burb is trim pkgd it can be a whore if you have the center console.
6 shoving all that shit back under the truck is a bitch, i use my engine hoist through the floor board.
7 as mentioned before youll need to mod drive shafts.


i love the 465/205 setup, i ripped out the th350 when it smoked out, i would never ever put anything else in its place[cept a nv4500:devil:] but it is a move that you make when you want to beef a truck up for abuse and grunt. its just an ass load of work and more money than it would cost for you to just have yours fully rebuilt.

for what its worth i have a 4wd th400 that you could have to rebuild to minimize your down time.

Oh here it come's the oh so famous firing squad. Well trkklr77 you just said a standard rebuild for a dd would be fine. Well the original posting say's if it's to costly he will just buy a cheap car and sell the burban. I dont know about you but that sound's a little like a dd to me. Oh wait he can just wheel the new honda.

As for grumpy old fart you can bring all the tech question's you want cause I never once said I was a tranny tech. Original post was lookin for some opinion's and that is mine. I have had many trannies built by the same shop, and price has always been fair. So to sum it all up you made the statement, I called you on it and now your upset. Well sleep tight sunshine I am only a screenname. Your friend's wont find out you made a mistake.
Suck it up old man!!!

Oh here it come's the oh so famous firing squad. Well trkklr77 you just said a standard rebuild for a dd would be fine. Well the original posting say's if it's to costly he will just buy a cheap car and sell the burban. I dont know about you but that sound's a little like a dd to me. Oh wait he can just wheel the new honda.

As for grumpy old fart you can bring all the tech question's you want cause I never once said I was a tranny tech. Original post was lookin for some opinion's and that is mine. I have had many trannies built by the same shop, and price has always been fair. So to sum it all up you made the statement, I called you on it and now your upset. Well sleep tight sunshine I am only a screenname. Your friend's wont find out you made a mistake.
Suck it up old man!!!

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Are you serious? This is what you do when you make a mistake?

Well I would be happy to come to your trailer park and test your theroy.
I will bring my 99' Cummins to your trailer park and see if I can drag your house off the jackstand's and down the street.
Oh yeah my tranny guy built the 47RE for $550 I installed it and my own converter.
And it seem's to be hangin in there with 900lbft of tourqe in front of it.
Nite nite!!

show me the mistake.

if I have made one, I will apologize, and admit that you, sir, are the better man.

if you have a 47re that you paid 550 bucks for.... youre a miracle child. either that, or you provide a good example for fellatio to your buddy. that price just floors me.

can you tell me what transmission shop this is? I might be sending him some work. Seriously.

Oh here it come's the oh so famous firing squad. Well trkklr77 you just said a standard rebuild for a dd would be fine. Well the original posting say's if it's to costly he will just buy a cheap car and sell the burban. I dont know about you but that sound's a little like a dd to me. Oh wait he can just wheel the new honda.

As for grumpy old fart you can bring all the tech question's you want cause I never once said I was a tranny tech. Original post was lookin for some opinion's and that is mine. I have had many trannies built by the same shop, and price has always been fair. So to sum it all up you made the statement, I called you on it and now your upset. Well sleep tight sunshine I am only a screenname. Your friend's wont find out you made a mistake.
Suck it up old man!!!

he calls someone dumb then gets all defensive:shaking:! LMAO! you are stupid! I'd reread his posts. other than that, What is your point???? you sound like a woman bitchin to be bitchin???:homer:

wow. 1200 bucks gets you a freakin transbrake. it gets you Alto clutches, it gets you everything you could imagine needing in this trans. 1200 bucks is a lot of money to me. T

That price doesnt include R&R. thats because it has EVERYTHING you could want........

His prices are negotiable considering exactly what upgrades you want. if you wanted straight cut gears to turn it into a 475, thats an upgrade, and it will cost you.

I wasnt quoting any other transmission shop. I wasnt even giving you a definite number on his shop. I do know that you can get a th400 for 650 bucks carryout, with a warranty. and yes, that does come with a new converter.

want a blanket statement?

Rockbuggy has his head up his fourth point of contact.

thats a blanket statement. pretty accurate one too.

I never said shit about a conversion to a 4 speed regarding cost. I only provided info. I didnt even tell him NOT to change it out.

Actually I was refering to (Quote) if you find on for 400 bucks, be prepared to do it again. and again. and again.
That is a blanket statement saying any th400 that is rebuilt for 400 buck's is garbage.
So you keep writing book's on every post about how you know everything, but when it comes down to it your full of it.
I have my head up my forth point of contact? Dude that was award winning!!!!!!!!!

:eek:

I quess they dont teach you hillbillys how to understand what you are reading.
A blanket statement is when you cover a whole area of a subject.
Such as saying any Th400 for $400 is a P.O.S.
Did you write this comment? I would have to say yes wouldnt you agree?
Well your knowledge get's you in trouble when you alway's think your right!
Hey we all make mistake's, fuck I make them all the time. But for you to sit here and try to defend what you said is just stupid.

New task for you- Read this whole tread from begining to end and think it over. You might have a different opinion on what I am saying.
If not oh well get over it because a pissing match wont solve shit.

yeah, it hard to argue with the ingorant on the inernet, they just revert bragging about their rig and some blowjob buddy deal they got on their shit and pretend its the real world.

Realize one thing, there have been 190 view's of this tread. And you must have special feeling's for this old man, because your the only one trying to defend his mistake. Hey that is very honorable but he said what he said. How do you argue that?
One of the early post say's his 400 was rebuilt for $455 heavy sprags, clutch's etc.
Nowhere did he say it was a p.o.s and has replaced it 8 time's. This is just an example on one and there are many many more.

Unless it's totaly Fubar
The th400 can be rebuilt for a couple hundo..
As long as YOU pull it

Wow this guy must be full of it to?

That price is high. I spent $600 on a healthy T-400. Over the counter. R&R should be no more than $400. My .02, Mark

This guy spent $600 on what I presume is a built and upgraded tranny.
And your buddy old man charges a minimum of $650 which mean's to me a standard rebuild. Any time you are at someone's minimum that mean's to me, bottom of the line P.O.S.

So keep the post comin cause I will not back down, I will just instill how dumb you are more and more in all the other member's head's. If i was wrong I would admit it.

I quess they dont teach you hillbillys how to understand what you are reading.
A blanket statement is when you cover a whole area of a subject.
Such as saying any Th400 for $400 is a P.O.S.
Did you write this comment? I would have to say yes wouldnt you agree?
Well your knowledge get's you in trouble when you alway's think your right!
Hey we all make mistake's, fuck I make them all the time. But for you to sit here and try to defend what you said is just stupid.

New task for you- Read this whole tread from begining to end and think it over. You might have a different opinion on what I am saying.
If not oh well get over it because a pissing match wont solve shit.


It's an opinion! that's it!


I know what a blanket statement is. I think the point is, pay a little more get some work done and maybe just maybe you'll have a better trans? instead of an out the door tranny that you have no clue about what parts were used in the rebuild! rename the post, " What's the best low buck fly by night rebuild I can get" thread. Far as that goes, I have gotten a few good used trans out of my local trade paper and some of them worked for quite a long time. If I was using it for my kids and was counting on using it in bad weather, I and I emphasize, "I" would have one rebuilt and buy a few upgrades so that "MY" mind would rest easier. my .02:smokin:

I completely respect what you have said. I am not sayin buy a used tranny, I just wanted to make it clear for the original poster, that he does not have to spend an arm and a leg to fix this.
I am not here to try and piss people off but fact of the matter is, the original poster possibly has no knowledge of what good is when it come's to trannys. And now he is under the impression that if it's not expensive, it's garbage. Well I hope you understand the point I am trying to make. I am not continuing this just cause I want to bitch like a women. I just want to save a fellow member alot of work and money. That's just what I thought you do here. Not listen to the first person who say's "Impossible" And just give up.

I completely respect what you have said. I am not sayin buy a used tranny, I just wanted to make it clear for the original poster, that he does not have to spend an arm and a leg to fix this.
I am not here to try and piss people off but fact of the matter is, the original poster possibly has no knowledge of what good is when it come's to trannys. And now he is under the impression that if it's not expensive, it's garbage. Well I hope you understand the point I am trying to make. I am not continuing this just cause I want to bitch like a women. I just want to save a fellow member alot of work and money. That's just what I thought you do here. Not listen to the first person who say's "Impossible" And just give up.

agreed!

but, maybe just say something like this as opposed to calling someone dumb or wrong. You will find that there are soooo many internet tuff guys floating around on every forum and there shit is ALWAYS better so,

Go read some of grumpy's post..... I think you may end up changing your mind bout him??? He is very knowledgeable.

Understood. He knows his fawkin shit, I have read many of his post and cant understand where he get's the knowledge. I just saw something I didnt agree with.
Opinion's are opinion's and I hope for no hard feeling's.

/Rant On

let me clarify a few things about prices on transmissions...

my buddy does not do typical "out the door" rebuilds. If you ever meet a guy with an opinion as loud as his, take the time to listen. He will sell you a th400 with a shift kit and a new torque converter. he will NOT sell you one without a torque converter. If you want an aftermarket converter, he will ask what the application is specifically for, and you will get an earful from him. he will educate you, like it or not. He is a transmission specialist. he doesnt do tires in between times.. If he screws up, he fixes it. He doesnt screw up much.

If you want a lower price, take a woman into his shop wearing a tshirt and no bra. the price will drop if he can touch em... hes a perv. he does the best rebuilds around.

If you bought a transmission from him, you would expect to have lifelong service out of it, with it being able to handle the abuse you throw at it. He isnt a fly by night operation.

Im not here to pimp his shop, I wont even post the name of it. My point is that I have seen aamco put a trans together, seen that same trans get taken to my buddies shop and be rebuilt before installation. He isnt a chain store. He doesnt do factory rebuilds. Every update is done, each trans comes with its necessary upgrades for the application. you could pay 400 bucks for what ever you want. his 30 years of experience in a transmission shop is what makes the trans worth 250 bucks more. His willingness to educate his customer, his ability to show you how it works, why it failed, what the design flaws are, things like that you cant get from a guy that you paid 400 bucks for a trans, didnt get a converter.... only got rubber, paper, and a new filter.

Want it done right? walk through the transmission shop, and inspect it. check for shelf stock, check for how many transmissions are on the shelf ready to install. check for cleanliness. If the guy has dirt/grease/crap on his build bench, dont go there.

use common sense. well, use it, if you can afford it.

/rant off

His prices are negotiable considering exactly what upgrades you want. if you wanted straight cut gears to turn it into a 475, thats an upgrade, and it will cost you.

One thing I have found is that you may be sorry if you try to negotiate with a tranny shop trying to squeeze every nickel and dime out of the price just because you're cheap. What you will get is a tranny that reflects this both in price and very possibly the quality of the rebuild.

For those who don't understand what Grumpy is trying to say, there are shops out there who will rebuild trannys cheap by replacing seals, clutches, bands, and putting a new converter in there. This does not fix any issues that may have caused the tranny to fail in the first place. There are however some good, reasonably priced shops out there while others are too expensive on what they do or don't do to the trannys.

Want an example? I bought my CTD Dodge truck from a guy who had an "extreme duty" tranny installed that came from a tranny builder that he found online. He was kind enough to provide all the paperwork to prove what he paid for the tranny and what it was. Well, about 20k miles after the installation of that tranny (he owned it for 19k of that 20k) guess what happened? It started slipping. I tore down that tranny to build it properly and guess what I found? A stock rebuild with a few valve body mods and a slightly better than stock converter. Basically, this guy paid ~$2k for a total piece of shit.

Oh yeah my tranny guy built the 47RE for $550 I installed it and my own converter.
And it seem's to be hangin in there with 900lbft of tourqe in front of it.
Nite nite!!

I betcha you didn't get much of a tranny build for $550 on a 47re. Mind detailing what all the guy did to the tranny to make it hold all 900 ft/lb of torque you're making? I spent a lot more than that on upgraded parts alone for mine and you got a whole 47re built for less than that including labor?


With that said, a stock $400 rebuild on the original poster's th400 will likely do him just fine. It has made it 250k miles without a rebuild so I would venture to guess that if a rebuilt tranny lasts even 50-100k miles more the rest of the truck will likely be dead anyway so a stock tranny rebuild may very likely outlast the vehicle at this point and the intended application doesn't sound like it really requires more durability than what a stock th400 can provide.

Just to clear it up, $550 is what I paid for the tranny rebuild. What he did inside is whatever he felt was required for my need's. If you are familiar with the 47re you know it is a good tranny in stock form. The problem 9 times out of ten is the tourqe converter spilling its gut's which destroys the tranny. So I installed a converter that cost me around $1300. It has five clutchs and all that bull shit. I talked to ATS, BULLYDOG and every diesel performance shop around and almost every single one said Invest in t/c and you will be fine.

Grumpy old fart-I completely understand your point, and the price makes sense for $650 due to the fact he includes a t/c. And I am sure that since he know's his shit they are good t/c's which run $150-$250 which bring's the cost of rebuilding the tranny closer to $400-450. So all adds up to my original point, so thank you for making that clear.

by the way... good converter... its worth its weight.

I have seen many guy's reuse the old converter, than there new tranny goes out a month later and they try to blame it on the shop.

I'ts too bad your so far from me,
Someone local should help you out!!!
I can rebuild a 400 or 350 with my eyes closed.

On the other hand I am thinking about doing the opposite of what you are and probally need to unload all my extra stuff.
I am going to a 700r4 and 208 or maybe try to double it to my 205(flame on I dont care I need overdrive)
I currently have 465/205 adapter clutch bellhousing you know all the shit that goes bye bye when you put a auto in.

(flame on I dont care I need overdrive)
youre a tard.

get taller tires.

You're gonna have at least 1600. in doing the conversion. Bellhousing, flywheel, clutch, underdash pedal assy. hydraulics, trans itself, adaptor, tcase, shifter, drivelines.
bull shit.

youre a tard.

get taller tires.


OKAY buy me some 38-42 and I will do it your way.:shaking:
Ialready have the tranny and tcase thought it would be cheaper than over a grand in tires and wheels.

bull shit.

i had to spend about $1000 and i buddy dealed and junkyarded the whole thing.

OKAY buy me some 38-42 and I will do it your way.:shaking:
Ialready have the tranny and tcase thought it would be cheaper than over a grand in tires and wheels.

I guess for a street truck in an area that doesnt have hills, you would be ok as long as you kept the tire size down, which you probably will, since you cant afford tires....

OKAY buy me some 38-42 and I will do it your way.:shaking:
Ialready have the tranny and tcase thought it would be cheaper than over a grand in tires and wheels.

You really think it is going to be cheaper to do an OD automatic conversion than it would be to buy new tires and wheels? :eek:

I don't see that happening unless you go with junkyard parts for everything and don't rebuild the tranny, and I think you'd be sorry if you don't rebuild it before you put it in there...

bull shit.


Thanks for the indepth input, you done the conversion? what did it cost you? I do this crap for a living

i got a th400 out of a buddies motor home that was rebuilt a yr ago (i got the reciepts)the motor home was hit hard while was parked so i got a few parts from it
heavy duty tranny for $300.00 and i will garantee it

i had to spend about $1000 and i buddy dealed and junkyarded the whole thing.


Thanks for the indepth input, you done the conversion? what did it cost you? I do this crap for a living


just because you have spend that much, does not mean that it cant be done for less. unless, you by chance work for the government or something.

I guess for a street truck in an area that doesnt have hills, you would be ok as long as you kept the tire size down, which you probably will, since you cant afford tires....

Close but not exactly, got 456 in the axles and 35s, missouri has lots of hills. Also at the time I psted the truck was going to have to pull double duty as a DD weekend warrior, but that is most likely going to change and I will leave it alone and try to buy bigger tires in the future. I had a 4l60e with a 241 in a 93 that I did a sas on it had 410 and 38, It worked well on and offroad until the tranny puked but then again it had 200k on it.


Oh yea I already have the tranny tcase converter crossmember adapter and kick down linkage. I need a flex plate and a tcase shifter. But like I said since the truck aint going to have to pull double duty now I will probally leave it
alone.

just because you have spend that much, does not mean that it cant be done for less. unless, you by chance work for the government or something.

I didn't say it couldn't be done for less--
If you take the time to read his original post, one would assume (there's that word) since he got a quote of 1600 for a transmission shop to R&R and rebuild the turbo 400 then he would possibly do the same for the swap. Sure anybody could go the local junk yard and put a bunch of-----worn out, who knows how it was driven 100+ thousand miles on it trans and related parts and hope for the best, for less money, as a do-it-yourselfer. Then there is still the pair of drivelines. For some quality driveshafts to be either lengthened/shortened, balanced with new u-joints is gonna be a few hundred. Unless of course you have your own chop saw and a wire feed and feel you can get them straight and spinning true.