John Deere Ranger
06-22-2002, 07:06 AM
I know this has been beat to death and i found no conclusive evidence on the value of lunch box lockers.
I'm running D44/ 9" with 39" that is until i get $$ for a 60 which will be a year or so away.
I'm thinking about running a Quick Loc in the rear and Welded up front. The reason I say that is i've had welded in rear open up front and the rear pushes the front around and it is rough steering in 2wd but yet if 4wd the front actually turns the vehicle..... after a little bit i ended up welding the front two. Yes it hindered turning but Not much more than my buddies Detroit did. It was a light vehicle so that may have affected it some.
i've read that the pins break in the lock rights but carry extra pins or i could remove it (right?) on the trail if neccarry. I have hubs so I can unlock a hub to help the front turn
I've read some people saying that lockrights go :nuke: but others say they are stout and they claim they drive hard. Somebody convicine me of one way or another
Brutpwr
06-22-2002, 03:22 PM
The value in lunch box style lockers is gennerally your up front purchase costs are cheaper and the installation is much quicker and easier on the pocket book. The problems with them is that the can break and will wear out. None of my friends and I have seen more than 5 years of use on daily drivers before failure. Of course if you only use the vehicle some of the time or its in your front end--I agree it could be a cheap way to go.
Jason :)
reddwarf
06-22-2002, 10:15 PM
I have yet to see a lunchbox "wear out"
Yes, they do break sometimes....mine are still hanging in there though sqeezed between a 350, 64:1 and 38" tires....
reddwarf
06-22-2002, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by Brutpwr
None of my friends and I have seen more than 5 years of use on daily drivers before failure.
I am approaching 5 years on my DD....what am I to expect to break or wear out?
snoop dogg
06-23-2002, 12:19 AM
cheap, easy to install (15-25 min JUST for the locker install) It is easy, just take hubs off, rotors, spindle...ahh you know the deal and pull shafts, then carrier...what more could you want CHEAP, EASY, and BOTH tires spin. If it's in the front i would say you are all go, just use new thrust washers and keep it lubed...rear you *might* run the chance of breaking it, but it just all depends. some people have never had any problems and some have had terrible experiences...Give it a shot. I have had a lockrite in the front and had NO problems and it was DD and i did put it through hell and no probs...have a ez locker/quic lok and still no problems it is in the front also. i run a detroit in the rear.
John Deere Ranger
06-23-2002, 10:39 AM
392ssII
would you go Detroit or lockrite? in the rear if you were to do it again?
TNToy
06-23-2002, 04:16 PM
In my DD Toyota, I had a lockright in back for 8 months. I was used to driving it, and their not nearly as bad a peple make them out to be...
But still, if you had to be on the throttle in a tight turn on the street (parking lot or a cul-de-sac) it would buck and hop like a $2 whore.
Threw a detroit in the back and moved the lockright up front after I did some major mods, and WHOA... I had forgotten how much handling I had given up with the lockright. The only time I know the detroit is back there is when I hit the throttle really hard in a turn or gas it then let off right away. It will pull to one side slightly when shifting sometimes, but that's about it.
If it's a DD, my pick is either ARB or Detroit out back. If it's a trail only rig, weld it or spool it.
snoop dogg
06-23-2002, 08:23 PM
i wouldn't trade my detroit in the rear for anything...for me the only thing i would put in the rear is a detroit. *possibly* a welded rear, or just spool it are the other alternatives. The only time i know the detroit is back there is on the highway when it opens and closes...no biggie. I heard a spool in the rear isn't bad though. I would just go detroit in the rear, but if not a detroit..i would say a spool. A detroit is just so strong, so is a spool though.
Brutpwr
06-23-2002, 10:24 PM
Two close freinds of mine with lockright rears in daily drivers basically wore them out. They would start to slip initially under heavy throttle such as when towing and you hit a bump in the road. They would progressively get worse. This leads me to believe axle housing flex or the axles themselves are partially to blame. I know other friends of mine have had problems but these were all breakage problems not the wear out problem two of my friends have had.
Jason :)
John Deere Ranger
06-24-2002, 10:00 AM
Yall have pretty much convinced me of detroit rear, what about powertrax no slip?
Brutpwr
06-24-2002, 10:02 PM
Don't know anyone whos used one...I think it is similar in operation to a lockright but requires a carrier replacement--I guess if you wanted a quieter smoother operation than that may be a good option. Me myself I'd just rather go with a proven product. I've set up plenty of gears but I'd just assume go riding or wheeling than wrenching because my locker broke or wore out!
Jason :)
snoop dogg
06-25-2002, 07:07 AM
danger...if you can hold off till august. i will be going to AU and could get you hooked up with someone that KNOWS how to set gears, get that detroit and i could get you hooked up for like beer or cash. He knows what he is doing...i would trust him. Let me know what you think or if you already know how to set gears.
Rokmycj
06-25-2002, 11:03 AM
I was running a detroit in the front and the rear on my old setup and I loved it. I never had a problem with that setup. My new setup is a lokrite in the front and a detroit in the rear. I hate the lock rite. It sucks! I can't steer with it. but with the detroit I didn't even feel it. If I needed to make a tight turn I would work the gas and brake to lock and unlock it and all was good. I am hoping to loosen up the lock rite with some mileage to make it work better. If that doesn't happen I may go to a detroit in the front. Other than that it works good for me and was cheap.
Joe