: SAS 35" boggers


SpdBoss
11-04-2007, 01:11 PM
ok guys, i'm starting out with a 2wd 88 chevy 1/2 ton. i'm wanting to run 35-16-15 boggers on 15x12 wheels on 8 lug axles.

here's what i'm wanting to do. will this set-up allow me to run this size bogger? let me know what ya'll think.

Sky SAS kit
52" rear chevy springs
10 bolt/D44 knuckles/crossover steering passenger drop
D60 rear swapping over to disc rear brakes
Sky shackle flip kit
blocks
installing Advanced Adapters output shaft into my 700R4 to run a NP203 passenger drop t-case

rockbuggy84
11-04-2007, 02:17 PM
I believe you are gonna be about 6" over stock with that setup. And those wheels have a big offset so when you turn the are probably gonna rub without fender triming. When it flexes it will only get worse.

Big91RustyBucket
11-04-2007, 02:29 PM
Why do you want an NP 203?

habitatxskate
11-04-2007, 02:55 PM
a few problems, a 10 bolt can't take 35"s but a 44 in front can, 15" you'll rub unless you use spacers or buy those fancy ones that run with 8 lugs (more stress on your axles), i'd suggest running a 16" rim for the tires for it are cheap..16" wide tire? 12" rim.

remember that for the road, the tires can only 4" wider then the rim is.
an np203 is a full time 4wd transfer case, i wouldn't suggest running it since gas, wear, and road b.s.

with the 700r4(same as me) you can bolt an np208 without any issues, but if you want to change it run an np205, they are much stronger and i bet the adapter will be the same price.

SpdBoss
11-04-2007, 03:13 PM
well i have an NP203 so thats why. and yes its the same adapter for either one. i have to change the output shaft for both applications. when you say rub fenders do you mean front of the fender or firewall side of the fender.

so go 16x12? and go wtih 16" tires? why go 16"s over 15"s? just curious......

what do ya'll suggest for a wheel and tire size? do ya'll think i should just go with a 35-14.5 bogger and 10" wheels instead? i just like the wide track of the 35-16's.

3/4 Ton Blazer
11-04-2007, 03:45 PM
a few problems, a 10 bolt can't take 35"s but a 44 in front can...

First time I have ever heard anyone say that. It seems to be an ever going discussion of which is actually stronger between the two. I run a 16x10 wheel on 35x14.5 boggers, and I chose the 16" rim for brake clearance issues on the 3/4T axles. I would also opt for a 14B FF rear as they are stronger, dirt cheap, and opens the option of a very inexpensive/easier to install detroit locker.

Red Chevy
11-04-2007, 03:56 PM
U will have a minimum of 10" lift. The sky hangers will give u "6 and the 52" springs will give u 4-5". U will not have a problem with that tire/wheel combo and that much lift. I did a '95 extended cab 2-wheel drive with this setup and 38.5 boggers on 15x10 inch wheels. This was a street machine and would have had some fender rubbing if used much offroad, but with a 35" bogger, u shouldn't have any trouble. It doesn't matter if u run a 15" or a 16" wheel, if the offset is the same. If u already have the 10 bolt, run it, not much difference in strength between it and the D44 to worry with swapping.

SpdBoss
11-04-2007, 04:59 PM
yeah i know all that about the front diffs. i'm not a rock crawler just a mudd runner and DD. now i do have a 14FF but i dont have any hubs for it and its being a PIA to find a set for cheaper then going out and getting another rearend.

got any pics of the truck with the 38.5 boggers on it? 38.5-16-16 bogger would nice too if i have the room.....hmmm, lol

Red Chevy
11-04-2007, 08:45 PM
My wife loves my junk yard out back! 38.5x14 R15. Not the sky kit but 6" hangers and 52" rear springs. U will probably want to have a sway bar, these springs are pretty soft. I reused the stock sway bar. The guy wanted cheap, so I did a shackle flip and 5" blocks in the rear.

Donahue
11-05-2007, 08:10 PM
remember that for the road, the tires can only 4" wider then the rim is.


BS, my 16" wide tsl's recommend a 15x10 rim. it says right on the sidewall.

SpdBoss
11-05-2007, 08:57 PM
i wounder how the 38.5-16 boggers would look?

might opt for that size maybe.

r0nin89
11-05-2007, 09:24 PM
a few problems, a 10 bolt can't take 35"s but a 44 in front can


:shaking:

Thats bullshit. A 10bolt and a dana44 are nearly identical. In fact that 10bolt is about 1% weaker in exchange for better ground clearance. The only reason people think that is because a 10bolt is an ugly GM beast and the dana44 is a beloved dana axle.

TAWL_BOY
11-05-2007, 10:44 PM
Your 10 bolt ain't gonna like the 38s.

Build you own hangers that have less lift than sky's and run 52's.
Or get you a Dana 60(or built 44) and run the 38s.

72blazer
11-05-2007, 11:14 PM
arguing about which is stronger...10 bolt or D44...they're both :rainbow:

BarrelRoll
11-06-2007, 09:06 AM
This post has the most retarted replies i've seen in a while

10 bolt vs. 44, if your breaking 1 stock your going to break the other stock, most common broke part is u-joints, they use the same damn u-joints and stub shafts

If you are smart and keep the front end open you can keep a 10 bolt or 44 alive with 35-40" tires depending on where your wheeling, you don't need a god damn 60 to run 33" tires on trails in the wood like most web wheelers think

6.2Blazer
11-06-2007, 10:51 AM
a few problems, a 10 bolt can't take 35"s but a 44 in front can,
That's a retarded statement...they are both pretty much equal to each other in strength.


15" you'll rub unless you use spacers or buy those fancy ones that run with 8 lugs (more stress on your axles), i'd suggest running a 16" rim for the tires for it are cheap..16" wide tire? 12" rim.
There are about 8 million people who run 15" rims on an 8-lug front 10-bolt or D44 axle. As long as the backspacing is in the "normal" realm of 4.5" or less then it only requires a little bit of grinding of the calipers and backing plates to make them fit.


remember that for the road, the tires can only 4" wider then the rim is.



That is not a very good approximation, especially for taller off-road tires. Both myself and several guys in our club run 15.5" wide tires on 8" rims. Granted if they were only street-queens I might go to a 10" rim, but there is usually no issue driving on the street.

GMCTruxrule
11-06-2007, 12:28 PM
Wow, there are some real street corner lawyers in this crowd today...:shaking:
The imfamous 10 bolt vs Dana 44 battle.....

Anyway, I ran 38.5 Boggers on my 10 bolt front and was easy on the skinny pedal and never broke anything. But that is all in the past now...

MUD SLUT
11-06-2007, 12:38 PM
Wow, there are some real street corner lawyers in this crowd today...:shaking:
The imfamous 10 bolt vs Dana 44 battle.....

Anyway, I ran 38.5 Boggers on my 10 bolt front and was easy on the skinny pedal and never broke anything. But that is all in the past now...


Remember, it's Tuesday!

SpdBoss
11-06-2007, 02:59 PM
ok its going to be the 38-16-16.5 boggers on H1's recentered.

oh and the 10 bolt is going to have all the good parts in it guys. not going to be stock.

Big91RustyBucket
11-06-2007, 04:46 PM
Nothing like buildin a 10 bolt for a tire that will eat the damn thing for lunch

I have An s10 I am building for that tire. D44 for now Full Hydro , and open/maybe welded . Not sure yet . Only reason I am doing it is because on my Truck it is driver drop which allows me to use it for a little while till I get my doubler built , and put a pass drop DRW D60 in.

Also I have 15 spare 44 joints/shafts so I will have some way to make it least.
I have had 44" boggers before , and 39.5's Trust me they will find your weak link. You just need to decide what that weak link will be.

SpdBoss
11-06-2007, 06:25 PM
yes i've run 39.5 boggers before too.....oh wait, they were on STOCK toyota burfs and run them like that for a year and never once had a problem.

i'll be fine. i dont plan on beating on my truck to hard while the 10bolt is there. if i get to beating on it to hard and i break the 10 bolt then i'll swap in something else.

JeetYet
11-06-2007, 07:51 PM
wont be beating o nit long

J-Ohlin
11-06-2007, 08:22 PM
Just run the 10 bolt as is. you will spend more money on shafts, gears, locker, and hubs, then you could buy a 60 for.

I'm not telling you to go out and buy a 60. Just dont dump money in an axle that you'll end up replaceing. You can wheel a stock 60 harder then you can wheel a built 10 bolt or dana 44.

Just save your money. It will be worth in the end.

GMCTruxrule
11-06-2007, 09:34 PM
Well, for all the time and effort of building a 44 or a 10 bolt, you could have bought the same parts for a 60. And you can even buy fully built Dana 60s for the price and sometimes less than you could buy and build for yourself.
So don't think about it too long...

SpdBoss
11-07-2007, 02:10 PM
yeah more then likly i'll wheel the 10 bolt till i can get a D60 for it. the 10 bolt was free and will the project rolling for now till later.

J-Ohlin
11-07-2007, 10:01 PM
yeah more then likly i'll wheel the 10 bolt till i can get a D60 for it. the 10 bolt was free and will the project rolling for now till later.

FREE is always good.