: Draglink and Trac bar questions


82k5
11-06-2007, 02:39 PM
No need for the flaming but here goes. I have a 96 1 ton with a ford dana 60, 20 inch lift and 46's. it is a street truck. the problem i have is the draglink is to short for the amount of lift. i had a trac bar on there also but i took it off cause it was pullin the front down. a couple of questions.
1.) is there a certain degree that a draglink shouldnt go past? mine is pretty steep.
2.) i heard there is a large(6") drop pitman arm that will fit ifs steering box. if so, who? part number?
3.) whats the best way to measure the right lenght you need for your draglink and trac bar?
4.) whats the best way to make the links for the swaybar. heims and tube? if so whats a good size heim and tube?

any help will be appreciated.

the_experience3006
11-06-2007, 02:44 PM
I have a 96 1 ton with a ford dana 60, 20 inch lift and 46's. it is a street truck.

:laughing::laughing:

is there a certain degree that a draglink shouldnt go past? mine is pretty steep.


0 degrees...as in flat...is the answer you're looking for. That should give you some insight as to how to answer your other questions.

Donahue
11-06-2007, 02:51 PM
i know, its tuesday. but i wont flame you too much.

i hope to god that you at least have some sort of highsteer/crossover what ever, to where your draglink comes down to a steering arm on top of the knuckle. obviously i would assume you have this, and that you are using the tallest one you could find.

also, why are you asking about sway bars? dont those stiff springs provide enough anti-latteral movement?

rockbuggy84
11-06-2007, 06:44 PM
If the drag link is bent correctly you should be able to gain 4" of drop in that alone.
As for the track bar it need's a drop bracket you will probably have to fab yourself.
And one question. Do you really feel safe to call it a street truck?

brewchief
11-06-2007, 06:54 PM
Some pics would help a lot, your gonna get flamed a lot, however the knowledge to unbooty fab your truck is here.

Brewchief:D

the_experience3006
11-06-2007, 11:04 PM
If the drag link is bent correctly you should be able to gain 4" of drop in that alone.
As for the track bar it need's a drop bracket you will probably have to fab yourself.


Sometimes bends are necessary, but I really really dislike them. All that bending a linkage does is make it fit between point A and point B, at the expense of strength. A 4 inch drop from the bend is not going to correct his geometry at all. I don't care if that draglink looks like the whole cursive alphabet in one...if the pitman arm is 12 inches higher than the steering arm you're going to get bumpsteer and likely deathwobble since the trackbar will be the same. Being level at the ends doesn't correct the overall angle.

A dropped pitman arm and a raised steering arm is going to help make that overall angle better, but now you're putting more stress on other parts like the steering arm studs.

Making the trackbar and draglink longer would help, but again...space can be an issue.

82k5
11-06-2007, 11:18 PM
i have the drop down brackets already fabed up for the trac bar, but the bar was to short. it has crossover with an oru knuckle, but it isnt raised as much as i wish it was. i would like to find a bigger drop pitman arm and make the draglink a little longer. i really dont want to bend the draglink though because of the weakening in it.

the deathwobble isnt to bad right now. only every once in awhile will i need to slow down to stop it.

imma work on the pics.

and to rockbuggy, yea i would call it a street truck, cause even as it is right now i drive it weekly. and for the flaming, thats kool. i have a off road toy also.

rockbuggy84
11-07-2007, 05:04 PM
[QUOTE=the_experience3006;7457587]Sometimes bends are necessary, but I really really dislike them. All that bending a linkage does is make it fit between point A and point B, at the expense of strength. A 4 inch drop from the bend is not going to correct his geometry at all. I don't care if that draglink looks like the whole cursive alphabet in one...if the pitman arm is 12 inches higher than the steering arm you're going to get bumpsteer and likely deathwobble since the trackbar will be the same. Being level at the ends doesn't correct the overall angle.

Well from what it sounds like he is worried about maxing out the tie rod ends.
I dont think with those hard ass spring's bump steer is a huge problem.
If you use 1.5"x.219" wall tubing it will not bend. Off road design sell's this setup, WFO concepts also and many more. This would be a much better design than trying to snap the knuckle off with spacers or ripping the steering box right off the frame with a huge drop pitman arm.

the_experience3006
11-07-2007, 06:45 PM
Well from what it sounds like he is worried about maxing out the tie rod ends.
I dont think with those hard ass spring's bump steer is a huge problem.
If you use 1.5"x.219" wall tubing it will not bend. Off road design sell's this setup, WFO concepts also and many more. This would be a much better design than trying to snap the knuckle off with spacers or ripping the steering box right off the frame with a huge drop pitman arm.


Well...he probably isn't too worried about it, but he does want a sway bar so one has to wonder if maybe those springs DO move. Some input from the OP would be helpful.

The best solution is probably a triangulated 4 link and full hydro steering, but this is a street truck...