: New engine arrived today!


jwstrand
11-07-2007, 12:57 PM
Still waiting for the oil pan, valve covers and intake.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/jwstrand/PICT0057.jpg

:D

synds9
11-07-2007, 04:43 PM
uhhh great post man... :shaking:

wtf is it? more details?

outfitter540
11-07-2007, 05:28 PM
uhhh great post man... :shaking:

wtf is it? more details?

X2

Hackfabricaton
11-07-2007, 07:05 PM
uhhh great post man... :shaking: wtf is it? more details?

X2

It's a major award....Don't you guys know anything. Must've come from Italy...See, it says Frah-gee-lay on it....

brewchief
11-07-2007, 07:07 PM
Must be a good one, they shipped it on two pallets:flipoff2:

Totalled
11-07-2007, 07:43 PM
Some more details on your FE?

Rastus #3
11-07-2007, 07:44 PM
I'm thinking its a dual ford 1600..................

Hendo
11-07-2007, 07:48 PM
how does it get air to the intake with all that plastic on it

WebsterRedneck
11-07-2007, 08:08 PM
well see, since the old FE's never had any issues getting air IN, just out he figured that the restrictor plate might help get the exhaust flow into the stock head's capability. :D

Justin

Poohbair
11-07-2007, 09:05 PM
http://krazyk5.com/albums/Cougars/thisthreadsucks.gif

RJR99SS
11-07-2007, 10:41 PM
Congratulations on not being able to rebuild your own engine. Jesus is proud.

69 broncosport
11-07-2007, 10:59 PM
You guys are ruthless:flipoff2:

RampageFSJ
11-07-2007, 11:06 PM
Don't judge a book by it's cover, he does have an awesome rig to put that 428 in:flipoff2:. You may be interested, you may not, stick around I'll bet he'll post pics of it if you don't chase him off.

P.S. It isn't a rock rig, show truck, or a mud truck. It's a 4x4 that he can legally drive on the road. Start your guessing.:p

69 broncosport
11-07-2007, 11:14 PM
A 428 Nice

WebsterRedneck
11-07-2007, 11:26 PM
P.S. It isn't a rock rig, show truck, or a mud truck. It's a 4x4 that he can legally drive on the road. Start your guessing.:p

Nah.

Justin

synds9
11-07-2007, 11:56 PM
is it an oscar meyer weiner mobile? :flipoff2:

svt150j49
11-08-2007, 12:22 AM
a quad? :flipoff2:

jwstrand
11-08-2007, 04:50 AM
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/jwstrand/FinishedFrameFront.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/jwstrand/EValleyHwyKent.jpg

Go for a ride:

http://s82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/jwstrand/?action=view&current=Libby1.flv

:D

94stepsideford
11-08-2007, 07:32 AM
I see this thread is going to work GREAT for you :laughing:


You have to have a dick the size of a mini hot dog or somthing.

WebsterRedneck
11-08-2007, 08:05 AM
Not a show truck how?

And to rampage, no way in HELL that thing is "legal". It may be plated and insured, but federally there is a headlight height limit (73" IIRC) which i guarantee that thing violates.

Justin

duncanstives
11-08-2007, 08:10 AM
I donno... I don't really dis guys who build moster trucks... Sure its not really "offroading"... To me it it more of a seperate but related hobby... Not something I would do personally but I like youtubing the crash compilations as much as the next guy :flipoff2:

WebsterRedneck
11-08-2007, 09:36 AM
Don't get me wrong, i like the truck but that and "not a show truck" and "street legal" don't belong in the same sentence.

Justin

Totalled
11-08-2007, 09:37 AM
Bullshit. That thing isn't even close to legal to be on the road Mr 20 year old expired washington plates...

RampageFSJ
11-08-2007, 09:49 AM
I'll let him explain the whole street legal thing.

Maybe I should have defined "show truck", my definition is 49's on 10 bolts. It looks like a bit of a show truck, but it's ass loads more functional.:smokin:

Come awn jwstrand, I thought you'ld break out the pics of you racing Bigfoot, Gravedigger, and a few others.:D

WebsterRedneck
11-08-2007, 12:19 PM
Yeah, i'd wait for him to show to defend himself. Honestly, you're just talking him into a hole.

I do wanna hear more about the 428 and all, but from the source.

Justin

RJR99SS
11-08-2007, 02:31 PM
Bullshit. That thing isn't even close to legal to be on the road Mr 20 year old expired washington plates...

Is it just me or does everything in those pics look 20 years old?

jwstrand
11-08-2007, 06:49 PM
A couple of pics are old, as somebody said. But they arent 20 years old.
Those were my Washington plates. I have Montana plates now.
The last time I drove it on the street was in April. I have been moving
and doing some work on it since.
Pics to come!
:homer:

IROK Cherokee
11-08-2007, 09:00 PM
That much truck needs a 557 or more....FE's wont do that:shaking:

WebsterRedneck
11-08-2007, 10:05 PM
FE's are out to 532 with off the shelf parts.

That's why I'm curious to hear about this "428". For what it costs to build one "right" to move something like that I woulda gone atleast 457 (+.030 428 w/4.25" crank) or ponied up for a genesis block and gone out to about a 510 to leave rebuild room.

Justin

Halogrinder
11-09-2007, 05:33 PM
:rainbow:


and ghaye

jwstrand
11-09-2007, 09:27 PM
That much truck needs a 557 or more....FE's wont do that:shaking:

Oh yes it will! An FE did this:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/jwstrand/Race.jpg

:D

jwstrand
11-09-2007, 09:30 PM
:rainbow:


and ghaye

FAG.

You're probably a Republican, too.

:shaking:

Halogrinder
11-09-2007, 09:36 PM
once you go fag, your pants match your bag :laughing:


bitch, at least i could rebuild my ENTIRE truck, including my own engine myself, dynoed it and it still runs like a champ PLUS it is in 1st place in my mud series :smokin:

PLUS my shit is licenced, insured, registered and LEGAL on the road, unlike your oldskool shitmissle.

ill tough truck my shit just like that pic, except, ill just be driving over the hoods, not jumping them :laughing: i wonder if my shit would be faster, since ill be on the ground, not bouncing all over the fawking place like that.. thing?

last time i checked ag tires arnt DOT approved on the street either :)

in closing, stuff some thumbtacks up your ass and let your boyfriend drive your truck next time :flipoff2:

jwstrand
11-10-2007, 06:50 PM
once you go fag, your pants match your bag :laughing:


bitch, at least i could rebuild my ENTIRE truck, including my own engine myself, dynoed it and it still runs like a champ PLUS it is in 1st place in my mud series :smokin:
Your an ass.

PLUS my shit is licenced, insured, registered and LEGAL on the road,
Yes, it's probably shit alright.


ill tough truck my shit just like that pic, except, ill just be driving over the hoods, not jumping them :laughing: i wonder if my shit would be faster, since ill be on the ground, not bouncing all over the fawking place like that.. thing?

last time i checked ag tires arnt DOT approved on the street either :)

in closing, stuff some thumbtacks up your ass and let your boyfriend drive your truck next time :flipoff2:
Yes, it is clear you are a jealous faggot.
:flipoff2: :shaking:

mihkail
11-10-2007, 07:04 PM
who the fuck would be jealous of you and that useless POS.

Bendystraw11
11-10-2007, 07:42 PM
Can't you see your constant bickering is tearing this family apart! :bawling:

jwstrand
11-10-2007, 07:50 PM
Can't you see your constant bickering is tearing this family apart! :bawling:

Well, I sure didn't start anything! It's these jealous fucks who can't help themselves.
:flipoff2:

brewchief
11-10-2007, 08:23 PM
Well, I sure didn't start anything! It's these jealous fucks who can't help themselves.
:flipoff2:

Jealous of what? The stiff as hell leafs? The shitload of chrome shocks? The overall gehyness of the whole damn truck? Whats the new motor for, are you trying to become king of the mall crawlers?:flipoff2:

Brewchief:flipoff2:

AERONUTT
11-10-2007, 08:30 PM
The vicious bastards on this board who attack you for your hobby are just having a hard time finding a polite way of saying "That's not what Pirate4x4 is about and that makes you an outsider." Monster trucks are to the 4x4 truck world as clown shoes are to the shoe world. Fun to watch, makes kids smile, but so rediculous that only a very select few will actually own one.

"real" offroad vehicle owners are neither jealous of nor threatened by monster trucks because they understand the circus freak nature of the beasts. If you enjoy owning and operating this vehicle, then I'm happy for you and wish you the best of luck with your hobby.

megatoy66
11-10-2007, 08:40 PM
Jeff don't let the loudmouth, webwheeling asspackers get to you. Most of them are to narrow minded to understand that there are other vehicles that people are into, such as....street rods, muscle cars, lowriders, street bikes, quads, airplanes and yes monster trucks.
Yes this is a rock crawling 4x4 site and may not be the place for trucks like yours or a couple of mine, just tell them to kiss your ass!

Fordtrucks
11-11-2007, 09:41 AM
Neat project. You are welcome to post about it on my site if you want.

www.blackhillsboggers.com

We are a small forum and need new ppl to post up. I like monstertrucks. I would not have spent the money on an FE series engine. I preferre the 385 series myself, that is what I race.

Halogrinder
11-11-2007, 12:16 PM
pirate is progressing like america. unfortunately im seeing the pussification of this board right now :(

why am i a jealous faggot? please tell me :rolleyes:
are you pist that im calling you out. and that it isnt street legal with AG tires on it? or bumper hieght? or headlight height? or that it can stop within a predetermined distance? come on, tell me then fag :flipoff2:
show me how that chrome eleventybillion shock truck there is legal, thats all.

bassdude
11-11-2007, 12:32 PM
why do you want to waste a perfectly good FE by sticking it in that big gay ass monstrosity .
why would anyone drive that on the road???
small dick?
insecure?
to boost your fragile little ego?

no one here cares about your hacked up abortion you call a truck.
put a sbc in that hooptie, give the FE to smeone that deserves it.:shaking:

7.62FMJ
11-11-2007, 08:59 PM
Hey dickweed...drive that truck to your local DMV and take a picture of them handing you your registration while holding today's newspaper. Aint no fucking way that thing is street legal.

Montana

No laws here, but your truck will need to meet the lighting requirement, which is that headlights are no higher than 72 inches or lower than 15 inches.

Couple the lights with the Non-DOT approved tires, and the obvious fact that it's overwidth. What is it...10' legal width limit without a permit?


And I agree with Halogrinder...Pirate has gone soft...

bloodlustracing
11-11-2007, 09:42 PM
monster trucks are marvels of technology. just like your sport it took old style trucks to get to where we are now.

we like different things. you dont understand our sport, much like some of us dont understand your fascination with crawling up rocks. just leave it at that.

Halogrinder
11-11-2007, 09:50 PM
i understand the tech involved with monster trucks. they have COUNTLESS hours of engineering and work in them.

it just sucks that the man who invented the sport was squeezed out. fucking politics.
now the stupid staged races suck, and who wants to watch that? its like a WWF fight, but on wheels :rolleyes:



what makes me think that bloodlustracing is jwstrand? :laughing: ill have a mod check that out or something...lol

bloodlustracing
11-11-2007, 10:21 PM
no.... bloodlustracing is also known as screamxforxme on monstermayhem.org

bloodlust comes from the name of my truck on the fantasy racing league, protruckchallenge.com

did you seriously just say that monster trucks are staged? name me some proof of this, because i could get QUITE a few drivers, owners, track officials and fans of these trucks for years to prove otherwise.

please sir. you do not understand monster trucks as a sport. you think that they crush things and have no purpose. you obviously have no clue.

as for the man who created it, his legendary name, as well as his trucks legendary name(which is tattooed on my arm for your information) are still VERY much in the sport, and have just won the MLMT series.


please, for the sake of everyone on here. check your sources before you post.

mtu_jeeper
11-12-2007, 12:45 AM
A. Monster trucks have been "Off Road" vehicles, ever see the hammer down video with Dragon Slayer out in Desert Mountain Utah? Or the old videos of bigfoot, which monster trucks started as an off road vehicle? Yeah, not a rock crawler, but there aren't many rocks in missouri...lol... What came first, a monster truck with a 4 link or a crawler...I don't know the for sure answer, but I'm willing to bet it wasn't the crawler.

B. I appreciate all forms of motorsports, not just rock crawling. Everything is purpose built, and impressive in their own way, its sad that you are too closed minded to see that.

C. Bloodlust...unfortunately I can quote a decent number of drivers who have said that they know of races that have been rigged, or where the promoter will say who they want in the finals and to try and set it up that way. Obviously this isn't every promoter, in fact, probably just one or two, since those guys are destined to fail. With the advent of MLMT and their legitimate race series I hope to see the legitimacy come back to the sport.

Its amusing how rude people can be to something that actually developed a lot of technology they use. The fact that all people can say is "you're a fag" "you're gay" etc is just sad and shows the intelligence level of some of you here that you can't even develop a well thought out argument. I wheel, and I'm also a crew chief for a monster truck...both are exciting in their own ways and are completely different forms of motorsports. You can't knock what you don't have any experience with.

Halogrinder
11-12-2007, 07:09 AM
come on. so you mean to tell me the trucks owned by live nation, when they put on and sponsor an event, runs against independant or company owned trucks, it ISNT staged? i find that hard to believe.


whatever. my original comment was directed towards how this truck is street legal, which it is not. everyone who drives/wheels/wrenches on a truck no matter what it is has time effort and money involved with it.

i figgure also if you could build that truck yourself (if you did) than what is wrong or why couldnt you have rebuilt or build and engine for it?

94stepsideford
11-12-2007, 07:36 AM
come on. so you mean to tell me the trucks owned by live nation, when they put on and sponsor an event, runs against independant or company owned trucks, it ISNT staged? i find that hard to believe.


whatever. my original comment was directed towards how this truck is street legal, which it is not. everyone who drives/wheels/wrenches on a truck no matter what it is has time effort and money involved with it.

i figgure also if you could build that truck yourself (if you did) than what is wrong or why couldnt you have rebuilt or build and engine for it?

X2 and if you haven't been to a local monster truck show in awhile they have a new device where they can shut the trucks down for "safty" reasons. If you listen real close when the underdogs are out front you can hear their engine die down a little.

Btw alex. The New guys are the pussies. Us old timers are still here.

jwstrand
11-12-2007, 10:29 AM
I never said it was 100% street legal. It has plates, insurance, mudflaps and meets the Montana state
requirements for a motor vehicle. It's headlights are too high, therefore it cannot run at night.
That doesn't stop me from driving it around!
:flipoff2:

And you don't need DOT approved tires in Montana.

Big79'Terry
11-12-2007, 10:42 AM
Not all here :flipoff2:abhor really big trucks. Would like to know more about your "new motor". :eek:FE????? Why not big cube 429/460 :Dbased stroker??????????

bloodlustracing
11-12-2007, 10:50 AM
no live nation is not rigged, monster trucks in general is not rigged. every now and then, i'm sure a race gets rigged like in any other sport. the fact remains that monsters are a legitimate sport that your bashing. they can do the job of any 4x4, even your precious crawlers

meet dragon slayer


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcOZJo2mlJs

jwstrand
11-12-2007, 10:53 AM
It had an FE engine in it when I first bought it, before I built the frame.
The mounts for the engine and tranny were custom made. I didn't use
stock mounts in the new frame. I replaced that first engine with a large
cube 428 based engine. It threw a rod and I am replacing it with an FE
engine for right now so I don't have to fabricate new mounts. I moved into
a new house and my truck has to sit outside, and I don''t have access to welding equipment now.
:D

WebsterRedneck
11-12-2007, 11:35 AM
I never said it was 100% street legal.

And you don't need DOT approved tires in Montana.

Your buddy said it was, and that's whre i see most of the bad blood coming from.

And as for your second statement, DOT approved tires aren't state required, they're federal required. Regardless of what the state says, if you drive that thing on a federally funded road you CAN be stopped. Funny thing is it isn't for safety reasons, you'd get stopped and fined for tax evasion.

Part of the DOT certification is the US government can now charge you a tax for buying tires that non DOT tires don't have. This tax is supposed to go to road maintenance. By driving on the road without paying the tax, you are causing damage that you aren't paying to fix.

It's the same concept as road diesel vs. farm diesel. road diesel has a road tax on it, farm doesn't. that's why you get in deep shit for running farm diesel on road.

Justin

mtu_jeeper
11-12-2007, 12:47 PM
come on. so you mean to tell me the trucks owned by live nation, when they put on and sponsor an event, runs against independant or company owned trucks, it ISNT staged? i find that hard to believe.

i figgure also if you could build that truck yourself (if you did) than what is wrong or why couldnt you have rebuilt or build and engine for it?

Some teams don't deal with engines. I've ran with guys that have bought turn key trucks and don't know dick, to guys who have build their stuff from the ground up and know more than I can even begin to learn about engines. If you can get a professionally built engine with a warranty, some would choose to do that. Secondly, and not with Jeff (JWStrand) but with other teams, you only have a week between shows usually, and most of the time have a display during the week. The guy I work for (prior to me working for him) had an engine blow at a show, ordered one and had it delivered to the next show, meanwhile he had his rear end blow out on the semi so he pulled the engine out of the truck in the back of the trailer while they were fixing the semi. There just isn't time to be building a new engine. There are also just guys out there who don't know engines that good, or aren't comfortable with them. I've done bearings in a professional truck that the driver and crew chief didn't know how because they never had any engine trouble before. To tell you the truth, I would feel confident to build a truck from the ground up (oh wait, I am starting a new one on Wednesday) but I wouldn't feel confident building an engine that can handle the abuse of today's racing, so I'd buy one.

X2 and if you haven't been to a local monster truck show in awhile they have a new device where they can shut the trucks down for "safty" reasons. If you listen real close when the underdogs are out front you can hear their engine die down a little.

Yes, that is what it is for, it shuts the trucks down. Its called a RII which stands for remote ignition INTERRUPTER. Its not remote ignition controller. When an RII is activated, it completely cuts power from the truck until the box is manually reset by the driver. Not only that, when tripped, the light that you see facing out the windshield is a status light, if ignition is cut that light will be flashing. There is no way to control a race remotely. Also, if an engine is cut at the high RPMs of racing, it can easily do major damage to the engine, unfortunately I have seen this happen before.

Halogrinder
11-12-2007, 02:06 PM
It's a 4x4 that he can legally drive on the road.


so this tool is telling us its street legal, and now its "well its not exactly 100% legal" :shaking::shaking:


i can understand when people are on the road, and they have a time limit. time is money. meh.

RampageFSJ
11-12-2007, 02:56 PM
I retract that statement, I WAS under the impression that he had it registered as heavy equipment or something and it let him drive on the road. Now that he has clarified like I thought he would, I know better. There, ya happy now? If I started this whole argument just by saying that, I'll throw in a piece of my mind.

Just to let you know, I am a member of the 4x4 community, I may not have been here since the beginning of Pirate, but I have seen quite a bit and gotten so much tech from here that I am gladly a supporting member. I can't say that I've ever been involved in any big arguments here, but something here struck a nerve with me, so here goes nothing.

Why have you been trying to wiggle your little E-pecker into this thread? I'm all for getting newbies used to the way things work with a little flame job, but you personally attacked him and his truck, and you seem to know jack shit about either subject. I'll let you know, I have no clue what Jwstrand looks like, acts like, or even how old he is. But I can make a pretty good guess from what I have learned from sitting back and LISTENING to what he has to say. He has owned that truck for quite a few years now, he bought it as a truck on smaller turf tires and 2.5 ton rockwells. Now from what I have read, the only thing left from the original truck is the body. Now I may be taking a shot in the dark, but I'd say that he is able to fabricate and build due to that fact. And "Why does he drive it on the street when he can?" Well, why do you think Bob Chandler would make it so he could parade Bigfoot 5 around whenever he could. Because he has the biggest damned truck around and might just like showing it off some. Just like when you see somebody gawking at your 4x4 as you trot through town, they just don't see that every day, ya know?

He probably still owns Thunder Beast not only because he likes it and the YEARS that he has put into it, but it is very possibly an important part of monster truck history. It is one of the few trucks that could have been the first to crush cars in front of an audience. Bigfoot mainly got most of the attention.

I know how to rebuild a truck, set gears, weld, fabricate, and even rebuild an engine. But even I have major limits in what I know, and I would gladly have a shop or someone build a high performance engine for me and know that it will stand some abuse.

As for monster truck racing. Yes, I am very well aware of promotors in the past trying to rig races so that the big names that everyone came to see will win. I also know that many performances in the past have forced many people to think of our SPORT as "Wrestling on Wheels". But we are getting away from that from what I can tell, especially with the formation of the MLMT (Major League of Monster Trucks). They are letting even more trucks race at each event, with the majority of the trucks as far as I know having never been on TV. Their racing styles take everything back to the fact that the machine that works the best and the man that wants to win in the worst way will stand a chance.

I admire what monster truck drivers do, they risk their only means of income mostly on a machine that they built maintain with their bare hands. They have the balls to risk it, they have the desire to do it. I too, hope to someday become an owner and driver myself. I'm going to get started on a truck as soon as I start working out of college. That is why I am becoming an electrical lineman, to make enough money to get started in it. That is my dream, to drive, to fly, to race, wether I do it once or a thousand times, drive in a parking lot or a packed stadium, I will do everything in my power down to my last breath to atchieve my dream.

I probably didn't cover all that I wanted to, and may have more to add later, but I won't change a damned thing in this post (unless it's grammatical and bugs the hell out of me).

I'm 18, going to college, and becoming a power lineman to fuel my desires. That's my piece of mind, that's my rant.

mtu_jeeper
11-12-2007, 05:02 PM
For those of you who don't know, the MLMT is a newly formed race series that has revolutionized the industry. The shows are run mostly at Nascar tracks, they will be televised next year. They have spectacular racing, such as racing over school busses, crossover tracks, etc. But the biggest thing is that they now have open qualifying like Nascar. Teams will register 45 days in advance and can come try to qualify for one of the 16 spots at the show. The payouts are huge compared to being booked for a weekend show. With big money on the line expect to see spectacular racing and freestyle. If you are looking for a legitimate racing series (and some cool freestyle as well), look to MLMT.

Halogrinder
11-12-2007, 07:54 PM
For those of you who don't know, the MLMT is a newly formed race series that has revolutionized the industry. The shows are run mostly at Nascar tracks, they will be televised next year. They have spectacular racing, such as racing over school busses, crossover tracks, etc. But the biggest thing is that they now have open qualifying like Nascar. Teams will register 45 days in advance and can come try to qualify for one of the 16 spots at the show. The payouts are huge compared to being booked for a weekend show. With big money on the line expect to see spectacular racing and freestyle. If you are looking for a legitimate racing series (and some cool freestyle as well), look to MLMT.

now thats something i didnt know, and sounds pretty neat!

jwstrand
11-14-2007, 07:57 PM
I retract that statement, I WAS under the impression that he had it registered as heavy equipment or something and it let him drive on the road. It was, but I'm not going to go into that here.


Now that he has clarified like I thought he would, I know better. There, ya happy now? If I started this whole argument just by saying that, I'll throw in a piece of my mind.

Just to let you know, I am a member of the 4x4 community, I may not have been here since the beginning of Pirate, but I have seen quite a bit and gotten so much tech from here that I am gladly a supporting member. I can't say that I've ever been involved in any big arguments here, but something here struck a nerve with me, so here goes nothing.

Why have you been trying to wiggle your little E-pecker into this thread? I'm all for getting newbies used to the way things work with a little flame job, but you personally attacked him and his truck, and you seem to know jack shit about either subject. I'll let you know, I have no clue what Jwstrand looks like, acts like, or even how old he is.
I'm in my 40's, but I'm actually much younger!

But I can make a pretty good guess from what I have learned from sitting back and LISTENING to what he has to say. He has owned that truck for quite a few years now, he bought it as a truck on smaller turf tires and 2.5 ton rockwells. Now from what I have read, the only thing left from the original truck is the body. Now I may be taking a shot in the dark, but I'd say that he is able to fabricate and build due to that fact. And "Why does he drive it on the street when he can?" Well, why do you think Bob Chandler would make it so he could parade Bigfoot 5 around whenever he could. Because he has the biggest damned truck around and might just like showing it off some. Just like when you see somebody gawking at your 4x4 as you trot through town, they just don't see that every day, ya know?
That's right, I'm a showoff! :grinpimp:


He probably still owns Thunder Beast not only because he likes it and the YEARS that he has put into it, but it is very possibly an important part of monster truck history. It is one of the few trucks that could have been the first to crush cars in front of an audience. Bigfoot mainly got most of the attention. Again, that's right!

jwstrand
11-14-2007, 08:01 PM
Here are a couple of pics, as promised..

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/jwstrand/PICT0068.jpg

Here is the old engine, blackened from years of use.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/jwstrand/PICT0074.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/jwstrand/PICT0077.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/jwstrand/PICT0081.jpg

:D

megatoy66
11-14-2007, 08:20 PM
Nice to see the old girl is getting a new heart! Gotta love doing an engine swap in the dark!
Make sure you keep the pizza and beer flowing for your helpers. :smokin:

Fordtrucks
11-14-2007, 08:20 PM
Sure looks like a big truck. I would like to see more pics, Maybe some video of this new engine in action... I Love big fords. I think a truck like that needs an injected, blown 572 BB Ford from the 385 series engine family, but an FE is a start.

More pics..

Halogrinder
11-14-2007, 08:24 PM
shoulda used a skyhook :D

Hendo
11-14-2007, 08:25 PM
http://krazyk5.com/albums/Cougars/thisthreadsucks.gif

i agree

jwstrand
11-15-2007, 10:12 AM
i agree
If you don't like the thread, then don't read it, and don't post!

Dumbass!
:shaking:

Red Chevy
11-15-2007, 10:15 AM
If you don't like the thread, then don't read it, and don't post!

Dumbass!
:shaking:

What a great concept!!!:p

jopes
11-15-2007, 10:21 AM
If you don't like the thread, then don't read it, and don't post!

Dumbass!
:shaking:

what are you talking about? we all love this thread....especially beacuse of your retardness. :flipoff2:

broncoformudv
11-15-2007, 11:19 AM
I think you have a great looking truck and I would drive it on the street to just for the kicks!

Can you post some specs on that beast of an engine? You do not see much on FE's these days.

jwstrand
11-15-2007, 11:46 AM
Not much to tell, it's a built 428 from S&S Engine, in Spokane, WA.
I am putting on an Edelbrock Intake with a Predator carb.
It will look like this when it's finished. The scoop is on just for the picture, I normally use two air cleaners
stacked on each other:


http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/jwstrand/Engine.jpg

:)

Fordtrucks
11-15-2007, 06:36 PM
What is the deal with those preditor carbs?? I have never seen one in person nor seen one run.. Details?

PS a truck like that needs a scoop like the one above. Buy one and run it.

Halogrinder
11-15-2007, 09:14 PM
wow! two airfilters stacked ontop of each other! DOUBLE the air filtration! :rolleyes:


and you picked a winner with that predator too. every one i have seen has had issues.
get a 760 truck avenger, and have my carb guy actually make it run good :smokin: :D

jwstrand
11-15-2007, 09:59 PM
wow! two airfilters stacked ontop of each other! DOUBLE the air filtration! :rolleyes:


and you picked a winner with that predator too. every one i have seen has had issues.
get a 760 truck avenger, and have my carb guy actually make it run good :smokin: :D
I have NEVER had any trouble with my Predator. Works great!
:flipoff2:

Halogrinder
11-16-2007, 06:41 AM
to each their own

RJR99SS
11-16-2007, 07:31 AM
Im not a big fan of religion, but i think some of you guys need to find jesus. Just so you can find something else to argue about.

blown4x4
11-16-2007, 10:35 AM
wow! two airfilters stacked ontop of each other! DOUBLE the air filtration! :rolleyes:


and you picked a winner with that predator too. every one i have seen has had issues.
get a 760 truck avenger, and have my carb guy actually make it run good :smokin: :D


that ole red step side ford in one of the older ttc had dual predators and it ran pretty good. The rodent exterminator (spl?)

Halogrinder
11-16-2007, 10:37 AM
Im not a big fan of religion, but i think some of you guys need to find jesus. Just so you can find something else to argue about.

Doesnt he steal hubcabs from cars? :confused:


its a little slow in ford tech, gotta grab at straws sometimes :laughing: :flipoff2:

JoshTurner
11-16-2007, 11:47 AM
I have NEVER had any trouble with my Predator. Works great!
:flipoff2:


Same here...Just have to know how they work...



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/MUDDOG4X4/Ex%20TTC%20BRONCO/2.jpg

broncoformudv
11-16-2007, 02:44 PM
wow! two airfilters stacked ontop of each other! DOUBLE the air filtration! :rolleyes:

Plenty of guys running big blocks use two air filters they allow a few more cfm's in and they think they run better due to that.

and you picked a winner with that predator too. every one i have seen has had issues.
get a 760 truck avenger, and have my carb guy actually make it run good :smokin: :D

So let me get this straight you don't work on your own carb you buy a $500 Holley POS and pay another guy to get it to work for you?
I have ran Predator carbs and have seen plenty of them run with no issues aside from terrible fuel mileage.

Halogrinder
11-16-2007, 03:33 PM
no, i work on my own carbs.... BUT when someone is a carb specialist, and forgets more about carbs that YOU can remember in your lifetime, i let them do what they want with it.

used 300 dollar 670 truck avenger
250 bucks for rebuild
30 hp and 50 ft/lb documented gain on the dyno
hasnt stalled sputtered or died on me yet on the trail
i think its a pretty good investment, no?

broncoformudv
11-16-2007, 03:49 PM
no, i work on my own carbs.... BUT when someone is a carb specialist, and forgets more about carbs that YOU can remember in your lifetime, i let them do what they want with it.

used 300 dollar 670 truck avenger
250 bucks for rebuild
30 hp and 50 ft/lb documented gain on the dyno
hasnt stalled sputtered or died on me yet on the trail
i think its a pretty good investment, no?

So you spent as much on your used Truck Avenger as you would have if you bought a new one? That has to be the most expensive carb rebuild I have ever seen.

Halogrinder
11-16-2007, 06:14 PM
jesus christ, you dont get it.

i bought a used truck avenger. it ran ok. a guy was at the shop watching us dyno the engine. he introduced himself and said if he didnt make 20 more hp and the smoothest running engine you have ever driven, i didnt have to pay for the rebuild. my machinist knew him, and uses him to build race carbs from scratch. he took it, modded it, changed a bunch of stuff on it, and gave it back. ill be damned if it isnt the best running carb i have ever driven. i have had people mistake the truck for fuel injection it runs so well on side hills and off camber situations, including two flops that i was able to drive out of, still running.

JoshTurner
11-16-2007, 07:37 PM
i have had people mistake the truck for fuel injection it runs so well on side hills and off camber situations.


Same with my predator....:flipoff2::D

GMCTruxrule
11-18-2007, 02:23 AM
*yawn*

fordman1978
11-18-2007, 03:29 AM
no, i work on my own carbs.... BUT when someone is a carb specialist, and forgets more about carbs that YOU can remember in your lifetime, i let them do what they want with it.

used 300 dollar 670 truck avenger
250 bucks for rebuild
30 hp and 50 ft/lb documented gain on the dyno
hasnt stalled sputtered or died on me yet on the trail
i think its a pretty good investment, no?
i wish i had that kind of money to spend on a carb! the most expensive one i bought was a holley 750 double pumper for $20 it did its job though

jwstrand
11-18-2007, 02:42 PM
Project on temporary hold.
(ran out of cash)
:shaking:

jwstrand
11-24-2007, 09:32 PM
The work continues!
:D

dotcom
11-24-2007, 09:55 PM
If I drove a chubby I'd have a Holley on it.

Since I don't want that junk I run Edelbrock.

frankandbeans
11-25-2007, 02:56 PM
It continues.. where's the progress?

jwstrand
11-25-2007, 05:18 PM
Put the carb in today. It was a bitch. I was going to use a 2" spacer, but the studs weren't long enough.
I bought new, longer studs, but they were too long for the spacer.
I skipped the spacer, but had to spend a great deal of time wrenching it on. The studs barely cleared the carb body.
I couldn't get a box end wrench on it, had to use the open end, and its a fine thread stud!
This caused me to have to get into the engine compartment and I got stuck in there trying to get out. :shaking:


http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/jwstrand/PICT0089.jpg

synds9
11-25-2007, 07:02 PM
man I had trouble opening this jar of spaghetti sauce this afternoon :flipoff2:

Halogrinder
11-25-2007, 07:24 PM
man I had trouble opening this jar of spaghetti sauce this afternoon :flipoff2:

you think YOU had it bad, my hands were so greasy from eatin do-nuts, i couldnt get my bag of reeses pieces open! :flipoff2:

JoshTurner
11-25-2007, 07:36 PM
Put the carb in today. It was a bitch. I was going to use a 2" spacer, but the studs weren't long enough.
I bought new, longer studs, but they were too long for the spacer.
I skipped the spacer, but had to spend a great deal of time wrenching it on. The studs barely cleared the carb body.
I couldn't get a box end wrench on it, had to use the open end, and its a fine thread stud!
This caused me to have to get into the engine compartment and I got stuck in there trying to get out. :shaking:


http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/jwstrand/PICT0089.jpg


Your carb is mounted wrong...:flipoff2:

jwstrand
11-25-2007, 09:18 PM
Your carb is mounted wrong...:flipoff2:
No, it's not.
It's been that way for 20 years. Works great!
:D

JoshTurner
11-26-2007, 12:17 AM
No, it's not.
It's been that way for 20 years. Works great!
:D

To cheap to buy the right parts & put it on right???


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/MUDDOG4X4/Ex%20TTC%20BRONCO/7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/MUDDOG4X4/Ex%20TTC%20BRONCO/5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/MUDDOG4X4/Ex%20TTC%20BRONCO/3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/MUDDOG4X4/Ex%20TTC%20BRONCO/2.jpg

jwstrand
11-26-2007, 03:45 PM
To cheap to buy the right parts & put it on right???


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/MUDDOG4X4/Ex%20TTC%20BRONCO/7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/MUDDOG4X4/Ex%20TTC%20BRONCO/5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/MUDDOG4X4/Ex%20TTC%20BRONCO/3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/MUDDOG4X4/Ex%20TTC%20BRONCO/2.jpg

Did you take those pics for MY benefit?
I already have those parts already. I don't need them.
If you would read your manual it says that the carb is mounted depending on how you use it.
That's how I mounted it and it works just fine the way it is.
:flipoff2:

broncman
11-26-2007, 05:40 PM
wow! two airfilters stacked ontop of each other! DOUBLE the air filtration! :rolleyes:


and you picked a winner with that predator too. every one i have seen has had issues.
get a 760 truck avenger, and have my carb guy actually make it run good :smokin: :D

Just wanted to remind you to correct your typo ASAP so people will not loose faith in you. Holley does not make a 760 Truck Avenger:flipoff2: It is a 770 Truck Avenger, but of course you allready knew that.


The irony of arguing street leagality of a vehicle on an offroad rockcrawling forum! Wish my trail rig was a "little more" street legal. It sucks having to trailer it everwhere.

Halogrinder
11-26-2007, 07:01 PM
Just wanted to remind you to correct your typo ASAP so people will not loose faith in you. Holley does not make a 760 Truck Avenger:flipoff2: It is a 770 Truck Avenger, but of course you allready knew that.


The irony of arguing street leagality of a vehicle on an offroad rockcrawling forum! Wish my trail rig was a "little more" street legal. It sucks having to trailer it everwhere.

:p

thanks for catching my slip-up. :flipoff2:

jwstrand
11-26-2007, 08:44 PM
Here is the new oil pan. The corrosive smoke from the fire turned the old one green. I thought I'd better spring for a new pan while I was at it.
:shaking:


It really is gold irridited. I guess that is supposed to help conduct the heat away from the oil (however all of Milodon's pans seem gold irridited).
There are baffles inside to keep the oil from sloshing around.


http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/jwstrand/18.jpg
:D

Halogrinder
11-26-2007, 08:57 PM
nice pan!

jwstrand
11-28-2007, 09:43 PM
nice pan!
Yes, it is nice. It is an exact replacement for the old one.
But it hurts to shell out $300 for a pan. It will look nice though!
:eek:

jwstrand
12-01-2007, 03:30 PM
PROJECT ON HOLD AGAIN DUE TO CHEAP LABOR!

Well, I had a couple friends help me. One of them, when my back was
turned, used my air impact wrench installing the brackets for the
alternator on the water pump! Needless to say, he twisted the bolt off
in the water pump!
:shaking:
I couldn't lose my temper with the guy, after all, he was helping me all for
the cost of a couple of beers, but man, WHEW! Money is tight and that
set me back $30.
Yes, we tried drilling the bolt and using an easy out. Didn't work too well.
The old water pump has a similar problem. The bolt holes for the pulley are
messed up.
:shaking:
And it's snowing and cold out! Making this a difficult project to work on.
My goal was to have the engine running before the snow hit.
Too late for that! :(

jwstrand
12-02-2007, 03:47 PM
Well, I got the new water pump in. There was a break in the bad weather.
Now I am waiting for a bolt to come in UPS.
That's right... a bolt!
When I bought the new engine, the company used a regular bolt where
the oil pump pickup tube goes. There is a special bolt that has a little stud
on it where the pickup tube bolts to. I thought something was up.
I called the company (S&S Engine, Spokane, WA) and asked them what
they did with the bolt and why there wasn't a stud on mine.
"Oh, we never put those on", he said!
:mad3::mad3:
But he said he would send me one in UPS.

So, I can't put the oil pan on until the special bolt arrives. :shaking:
I just hope they really sent one!

mj
12-03-2007, 08:57 AM
too cheap to pressure wash that disgusting mess before taking pics?
have some pride man

To cheap to buy the right parts & put it on right???


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/MUDDOG4X4/Ex%20TTC%20BRONCO/7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/MUDDOG4X4/Ex%20TTC%20BRONCO/5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/MUDDOG4X4/Ex%20TTC%20BRONCO/3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/MUDDOG4X4/Ex%20TTC%20BRONCO/2.jpg

JoshTurner
12-03-2007, 03:41 PM
too cheap to pressure wash that disgusting mess before taking pics?
have some pride man

Motor was just put in to get the truck togeather...The motor will be pulld over the winter & rebuilt...

Good try though :flipoff2:

mj
12-05-2007, 11:10 AM
how is that an excuse for leaving it covered in sand and grime?

a couple a bucks at the car wash will have it acceptable

svt150j49
12-05-2007, 09:28 PM
how is that an excuse for leaving it covered in sand and grime?

a couple a bucks at the car wash will have it acceptable

over here you'd get a nice big fine for that. since all of the car washes have cameras. :barf: