good? bad?

http://www.nwbinders.net/MemberRides/KevinD/TieRodDragLinkConnection.JPG

oh does anyone have pics of a 350 in a scout How do U do the engine mounts?

What's not to like? Judging by the work on the body lift, I'll give the, hack-ol-high-steer a few trips in the woods.

I'll take a Z-link :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I always say, if your going to do it, do it half-assed.

Be afraid, be very afraid

Say, Scoutillac - was that the BEFORE S&N fixed it picture? :D

Chief - that's Scoutillac's bobbed SII on 38s. :D

Scoutillac, you have been called to judgement, what have you to say:question: :question:

SCARY!!! and not much of a spring perch on that diffy either.

Originally posted by jdjanda
Scoutillac, you have been called to judgement, what have you to say:question: :question:

What do I have to say........KISS MY ASS YOU WHINEY LITTLE BITCHES:flipoff2:

I ran that for a while and discovered the loades were too great so it was modified, but is still basicaly the same. I DO NOT drive this on the street. It survived the hammers and better than a year of hard use here in the NW. I would not and do not drive this on the street. So what I say is if you don't fully understand how it was set up, how it has performed, how it has never broken, ect, you can pretty much licl my sweaty bag:flipoff2:

Originally posted by TORC
SCARY!!! and not much of a spring perch on that diffy either.

Uh:rolleyes: There is plenty of spring pad there

Originally posted by jdjanda
What's not to like? Judging by the work on the body lift, I'll give the, hack-ol-high-steer a few trips in the woods.

I'll take a Z-link :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I always say, if your going to do it, do it half-assed.


HMMMM, how should I say this? Those pics were during the early stages of the build. As far as your half assed comment.....well FUCK YOU!!!!!!

Originally posted by Scoutillac
well FUCK YOU!!!!!!


Bwahahaha. Well GOOD MORNING!!!!!

Man, this is great. Feels like the PBB is gettin back to normal.:skull:

good job scoutil,lac,another thing that setup is called crossover, not high-steer, highsteer is when center link is over springs too, and back to the question high steer is better, and I got a 350 with homemade motor mounts, crappy pic but youll get the point,

You are correct, but like I said that is a old pic and now it is a highsteer setup, just don't have any pics of it. In the next few weeks I'll be cutting all that off, moving the tierod back to the factory location and adding a hyd ram:D

Originally posted by Scoutillac
You are correct, but like I said that is a old pic and now it is a highsteer setup, just don't have any pics of it. In the next few weeks I'll be cutting all that off, moving the tierod back to the factory location and adding a hyd ram:D that will be better, what kinda wheelin do you do:smokin: and are you caddy powered, if so I will be selling a 66 429 out of my studebaker pickup, one of these days

Originally posted by harkinoff
that will be better, what kinda wheelin do you do:smokin:

Here is one of my favorite pics of Scoutillac's rig...

http://www.snort4x4.com/trips/hammersmarch/JV056.JPG

Originally posted by harkinoff
good job scoutil,lac,another thing that setup is called crossover, not high-steer, highsteer is when center link is over springs too, and back to the question high steer is better, and I got a 350 with homemade motor mounts, crappy pic but youll get the point,

I always thought Scouts came with cross-over steering from the factory...

And then we convert them to HIGH x-over.

Who cares where the tie-rod is? As long as the draglink is up out of the way, and relatively level..

Originally posted by tsm1mt


I always thought Scouts came with cross-over steering from the factory...

And then we convert them to HIGH x-over.

Who cares where the tie-rod is? As long as the draglink is up out of the way, and relatively level.. yes scouts did come with cross-over, pretty weak, along with the dana 30 and 44's that they came with, center links don't last long in the stock position that's why we move them up,so we do care where the tie rods sit.:D

so Scoutillac thets see what ya got now

Originally posted by harkinoff
good job scoutil,lac,another thing that setup is called crossover, not high-steer, highsteer is when center link is over springs too, and back to the question high steer is better...

Thanks for the lesson :rolleyes: what would we do without you? We really don't need the lesson unless someone asks the question. Try posting the info on the Gen Section and see what the response is.

Joe

Originally posted by Scoutillac



HMMMM, how should I say this? Those pics were during the early stages of the build. As far as your half assed comment.....well FUCK YOU!!!!!!

Sensitive are we? We want pics of the new setup :p

Originally posted by jdjanda


Sensitive are we? We want pics of the new setup :p

what he siad

anyone have pics of a "cross over" done right?

Originally posted by fatkid
anyone have pics of a "cross over" done right? done right? explain! what on a 44 or a 60

Originally posted by fatkid
anyone have pics of a "cross over" done right?

Do I have to tell you to use the search :flipoff2:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40013&highlight=histeer

Originally posted by fatkid
anyone have pics of a "cross over" done right?

http://tigger.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/jpg/6_11_2002/pic01.jpg


http://tigger.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/jpg/6_11_2002/pic03.jpg

http://tigger.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/jpg/6_11_2002/pic05.jpg

http://tigger.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/jpg/6_11_2002/pic06.jpg

http://tigger.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/jpg/6_11_2002/pic07.jpg

http://tigger.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/jpg/6_11_2002/pic08.jpg

I have more pics 'round here..

I just changed from my previous setup (which used 3/4 TREs and the stock pitman arm) to this setup after running the previous for 3 years. I went to an RS and put in degree shims and had to change things around a little to keep the springs from using the pitman as a bump-stop and to get a little more height at the knuckle to clear the taller-with-shim springs.

So now it's using 7/8 TREs and a Gryphin Racing DOM draglink, '73 Buick Station Wagon pitman arm re-reamed with the $40 SnapOn reamer, Chevy knuckles, Ford outers, TriCountyGear steering arm and studs.

Stock lifetime warranty Checker-Auto tie-rod.. on my 3rd one in 2 years.. :-)

I can't see those springs having a very long life with that much reverse flex. Maybe you should section your frame and use a straight arm.

Originally posted by Hammerlock
I can't see those springs having a very long life with that much reverse flex. Maybe you should section your frame and use a straight arm.

Hammer, my friend:

Research before you bitch. Thats Tom's baja racer at full compression. Other then poser pics, the only time those springs flex like that is when he de-orbits his Space Scout II :D:D.
How the hell would you section that frame anyhow?? I'd like to see you section that frame, keep it strong enough to withstand Tom's stupid foot, AND keep it race legal. Seem to me you'd make more trouble than you save.

Originally posted by Hammerlock
I can't see those springs having a very long life with that much reverse flex. Maybe you should section your frame and use a straight arm.

<G> Thanks, Matt. :D

Hammerlock - as Matt said, that was at full stuff, checking driveshaft slip (actual field testing indicates I had not enough slip left.. since I broke another Dana 20..)

http://tigger.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/jpg/6_30_2002/smDCP_0027.JPG

Here's a picture of the rig at-rest.

Full width, SOA, RS, XLC springs.

I run 31x15.50 Terra tires on it and they rub sometimes.

http://tigger.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/jpg/6_30_2002/smDCP_0025.JPG

[GANSTA ] I gotta back my boys up [/GANGSTA ] :flipoff2:

Originally posted by The Mick


Hammer, my friend:

Research before you bitch. Thats Tom's baja racer at full compression. Other then poser pics, the only time those springs flex like that is when he de-orbits his Space Scout II :D:D.
How the hell would you section that frame anyhow?? I'd like to see you section that frame, keep it strong enough to withstand Tom's stupid foot, AND keep it race legal. Seem to me you'd make more trouble than you save.

Micky,
Tell me something I don't know. It's obvious they're compressed. Being that it's a Baja racer is exactly why I mentioned the overcompression. A racer is going to put a lot more stress on the springs. Overcompression will cause the springs to sag a lot sooner then normal.

I don't know the rules for his class, but sectioning the frame is an easy job if you have any fabrication skills. Better then sandwiching the tie-rod between the frame and spring don't you think? :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Hammerlock


Micky,
Tell me something I don't know. It's obvious they're compressed. Being that it's a Baja racer is exactly why I mentioned the overcompression. A racer is going to put a lot more stress on the springs. Overcompression will cause the springs to sag a lot sooner then normal.

I don't know the rules for his class, but sectioning the frame is an easy job if you have any fabrication skills. Better then sandwiching the tie-rod between the frame and spring don't you think? :flipoff2:

No rules against sectioning the frame.. and if there are, I could fix that (I'm the Race Rules Chairman..)

I just changed the pitman arm out a month ago along with the whole draglink assembly to what you see above to keep from using the pitman arm / draglink as a bump stop.

That's one of the reasons why I had the springs fully compressed - to make SURE I wasn't using my steering box as a bump stop.

Everything JUST works out now.

What I really should do is convert the Chevy front end to SUA and go with some higher-arched and higher-rate lift springs, SUA, so at full stuff the springs just go flat, not negative..

But I'm having fun with the setup the way it is, so I'll run it until I break it or run out of other things to upgrade.

It was also suggested that I lower the stops to keep the springs from going negative (and thus keep 'em away from the pitman arm).. but I don't have much up-travel as it is.

Does use most of the 14.75" Bilstein's though.

http://www.m4x4a.org/ImageGallery/album39/pic04.jpg
http://www.m4x4a.org/ImageGallery/album39/pic06.jpg