The Chile Challenge 2008 Website goes live this week!

For those of you interested in going Check out the link below:
www.lascrucesfourwheeldriveclub.com.

Click on the events tab and the Chile Challenge link will come up.

Please try and come as your support helps keep our local trails open.

Thanks!!

http://www.lascrucesfourwheeldriveclub.com/chileChallenge.php

direct link to the page...

http://www.lascrucesfourwheeldriveclub.com/chileChallenge.php

direct link to the page...
Thanks!! The link wasn't actve when I posted this.

ATTN:Use the link in the post above. Chile Challenge Page now active!

DAMN! Its the same week as the King Of The Hammers event... I was for sure going to go this year:(


Been meaning to hit that area up for quite a while now....

-Matt Ruskow

DAMN! Its the same week as the King Of The Hammers event... I was for sure going to go this year:(


Been meaning to hit that area up for quite a while now....
Let us know when you're willing to come down and we'll set something up for you.
People call or e-mail us and we usually set up some runs depending on how long they're here for.

Anybody else sent their registration in yet?

Anybody else sent their registration in yet?

not yet but really considering finally coming down. Where is a good hotel to stay in? Does it really matter?

Living in Cruces, I do not know where everybody is staying. I do know the Best Western on Ave. de Mesilla has been popular in the past. There is also another hotel right next to it.

That will give you about the closest you can get to the fairgrounds, and it is virtually right off the freeway.

Some others have also stayed at what is now called "Hotel Encanto" but location isnt the best for Chile Challenge. Also there is a Ramada right off the freeway on Univeristy Ave and Valley Drive.

Hope that helps.

thanks, thats what I was looking for :) just a general idea of better locations. Is there trailer parking, or do we drive to the trails? Probably be pulling a 34 foot GN with two vehicles on it.


one more thing...the application asks for plate number, and insurance info. My truck has plates, but the other buggy has an OHV sticker and is insured, is that OK or must it have plates?

I "think" there is plenty of parking at all the hotels for the trailer... might ask them when you make reservations. They all should know about the Chile Challenge and the need for trailer space. Depending on what trails you run, and how "street legal" your rigs are, you can drive to the trail, but there is also trailer parking (read PLENTY of parking) right at the trails.

I am not currently affiliated with LC4WDC, been out of country for 9months. Not exactly sure on the plate issue based on that. I think in the past they had you put your tow rig plate, if you were towing to the trails. Maybe Jeephreak can comment on that some more.

Any idea what trails, or even classes of trails you are looking at? Extreme's will be filling up fast!

thanks, definately extreme, and they are going in the mail just as soon as I can get an answer to the plate issue.

sent in our packets today and booked a room also :D

two of us coming :)

About 8 of us are going to be there.:grinpimp:

sweet:grinpimp: planning on leaving early Tuesday AM

we'll see you there!

in.

registered for these trails, havent received a confirmation yet.

wed: 1-patzcuaros 2- broad canyon 3- tabasco twister
thurs: 1- rocotillo 2- patz 3- habanero
frid: 1 habenero 2. tabasco 3- rocotillo
sat: 1 tabasco 2- broad 3- patz

Heading out for my forth Chile Challenge, Bringing two Las Cruces virgins! It should be fun!! :grinpimp:
This is Broad Canyon, back in August 07
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/dabshr/P8190112.jpg

thanks, thats what I was looking for :) just a general idea of better locations. Is there trailer parking, or do we drive to the trails? Probably be pulling a 34 foot GN with two vehicles on it.


one more thing...the application asks for plate number, and insurance info. My truck has plates, but the other buggy has an OHV sticker and is insured, is that OK or must it have plates?
To answer your question I am processing all your registrations as fast as I can input them. As far as the plate question is concerened we need either your plate number or your OHV sticker number because this year we need to prove to the BLM that all the vehicles are insured and at least legal in some way. Also, please be sure that if you do not have plates that you do not drive your vehicle on the roads if at all possible as they are enforcing that law heavily this year. We are also going to send out confirmation cards to all those who are registered before February 4. If you do not receive a card you will need to confirm your registration at the Registration Desk on site.
One thing that is different this year is that we will be performing a tech inspection as part of the BLM required washdown this year. Thanks!!

About 8 of us are going to be there.:grinpimp:
As a quick note to all of you please note on your registration that you want to be all in a group to guarntee that you all are on the same trail. If any of you forgot to put your group on your registration please PM or e-mail me at Jeephreakiwon@aol.com and I'll update you w/your group. Please ask if you have any questions. Thanks!!

As a quick note to all of you please note on your registration that you want to be all in a group to guarntee that you all are on the same trail. If any of you forgot to put your group on your registration please PM or e-mail me at Jeephreakiown@aol.com and I'll update you w/your group. Please ask if you have any questions. Thanks!!Taken care of thanks!

Corrected E-mail. Send e-mail to Jeephreakiwon@aol.com!!

two of us coming in from San Antonio.......:smokin:

A little over 3 weeks and counting!! Who's gettin excited?? :D I'll be there with Crunch!

Keep 'em coming. I'll get you in as fast as I can!! Thanks!!

im counting down too, cant wait....:D

sent everything in a few weeks ago, should we be getting confirmation in the mail beforehand, or just show up? I know the checks went through, and this is my first one :)

love to know all is confirmed before the 650 mile drive :)

(I know you're working hard, not trying to pressure, just ask :))

sent everything in a few weeks ago, should we be getting confirmation in the mail beforehand, or just show up? I know the checks went through, and this is my first one :)

love to know all is confirmed before the 650 mile drive :)

(I know you're working hard, not trying to pressure, just ask :))

if they cashed the check you are IN.

show up.

if they cashed the check you are IN.

show up.

:D

can't wait!!!

Last year we had a few jeeps that were not registered and they were still able to hit the trails. Usually people that are'nt registered can hit up trails after 12 p.m. We ran tobasco twister and patz. revenge last month, can't really say that anything on those 2 trails have changed much in the last year. Come march i'm gonna run patz. revenge backwards. Sceep put that idea in my head a few weeks ago, now i gotta do it.

Come march i'm gonna run patz. revenge backwards. Sceep put that idea in my head a few weeks ago, now i gotta do it.


its friggin FUN!

wear your harnesses!


getting close now!! i cant wait!

lets do it,....:D

http://www.texas4x4.org/gallery/album445/DSC02033


cant wait...:smokin:

Anybody received their confirmation yet? I live in Cruces, and havent seen anything. Check was cashed at the end of December.

FYI.....

From: fhuff@zianet.com
To: fhuff@zianet.com
Subject: 2008 Chile Challenge Registration
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:31:41 -0700


Four Wheeling Friends:

Thank you for registering for the 2008 Chile Challenge. This email confirms that we have received your registration and are in the process of finalizing your trail choices. Thanks to a new version of Microsoft Access, we are still revising the database. Hopefully within the next 10 days, we will send each of you your confirmation number to bring to registration when you pick up your participant packet .

Quite a few of you printed the registration that we posted in early December. About mid-month we revised the second page to ask the following:

My Vehicle Is Equipped With:



Tow Hooks Front Rear

Solid Lockers Front Rear

Tire Size

Working Winch Yes No




My Vehicle Is Equipped With:



Tow Hooks Front Rear

Solid Lockers Front Rear

Tire Size (diameter)

Working Winch Yes No

If you missed answering these questions, please email me ASAP, as trail eligibility for the extreme trails will be determined by how your vehicle is equipped.

Also, I am the Land Use Coordinator for the Las Cruces Four Wheel Drive Club. As you well know, the land closure activists are targeting Doña Ana County for massive wilderness and national monument designations in an attempt to destroy our recreational opportunities. Hopefully you will not object to me sending you “Land Use Alerts” throughout the coming year asking you to contact our elected officials to oppose these closure efforts.

Thank you again and if you have any questions, please email me.

Fred Huff

1807 Brown Rd.

Las Cruces, NM 88005

(575) 524-7145

email replied too, River Rat and I are coming together from San Antonio..

:smokin:

Hell I have not received crap from LC4WDC. Nor has my check been cashed. I've sent a few emails and nobody has responded. Maybe my registration never made it out of the post office!

did'nt receive confirmation yet, but i did recive an email...

I am an off-road enthusiast but i have to respond to the so-called "chile challenge event". The Chile Challenge is ( NOT ) even a real event, in layman's terms, it's a bunch of Western off-roading enthusiasts getting together off-roading. There aren't any monies or trophies given, so therefore, there is no winners or losers. It is just another day off-roading with the boys. So why would anyone want to pay a price to go wheeling when you can do that anywhere in Dona Ana County anytime free of charge as long as it is on BLM property. I don't mean any disrespect , but the truth is the truth.

I am an off-road enthusiast but i have to respond to the so-called "chile challenge event". The Chile Challenge is ( NOT ) even a real event, in layman's terms, it's a bunch of Western off-roading enthusiasts getting together off-roading. There aren't any monies or trophies given, so therefore, there is no winners or losers. It is just another day off-roading with the boys. So why would anyone want to pay a price to go wheeling when you can do that anywhere in Dona Ana County anytime free of charge as long as it is on BLM property. I don't mean any disrespect , but the truth is the truth.

I call bullshit. It is a "real" event because the BLM has issued permits, there are two dinners and a raffle. You don't know the difference between a "event" and just going wheeling.:flipoff2:

I am an off-road enthusiast but i have to respond to the so-called "chile challenge event". The Chile Challenge is ( NOT ) even a real event, in layman's terms, it's a bunch of Western off-roading enthusiasts getting together off-roading. There aren't any monies or trophies given, so therefore, there is no winners or losers. It is just another day off-roading with the boys. So why would anyone want to pay a price to go wheeling when you can do that anywhere in Dona Ana County anytime free of charge as long as it is on BLM property. I don't mean any disrespect , but the truth is the truth.
x2 on the BULLSHIT!!

10 PLUS YEARS AND ITS NOT A "REAL" EVENT!!Do you even know how much work it is to put on this type of event!? All of us who work towards making sure that this "Event" is properly run do so on our own time and of our own free will. Sure keep wheeling for free and trashing the shit out of our trails w/your shit friends but dont bitch when all of it is closed and you can't even walk on it anymore!! Sounds like you and you "WILDERNESS" friends are trying to get a response to a newb post for shits and grins. I personally take offense to that as you have no idea how much time and money it takes for us to keep fighting the good fight so the rest of you careless shits can keep wheeling for free w/those of us who actually care. You don't say where you're from but I don't care because you sure as hell don't understand why someone would go to all the trouble to pay to attend(some as far away as Switzerland) instead of just running their local trails over and over. I know most on here would aggree w/me. Those of you who don't give a shit and screw shit up all the time make us as a whole look bad and then that's all the "WILDERNESS" people tell everyone about us.

why would anyone want to pay for what you call a "event, when its all BLM land and all is wellcome on the trail to off-road on.BLM states that there is no fee and all is wellcome to use all trails, but you are required to stay on all designated trails "ohv trails", and cleanup after yourselfs,what you take in, you take back out.

You do know that there are about 350 plus people who totally disagree w/you. If your POOR and can't afford it then just shut up and take your bitching to someone who cares.
For a good portion of us locals we work all year for this to be able to wheel w/others and have fun. You do also know that the BLM has issued us a "Exclusive Use" permit for this EVENT that will be enforced by local Law Enforcement to keep you off the trails while those of us who actually care enjoy them w/o any issues from you "TAGALONGS"!!

why would anyone want to pay for what you call a "event, when its all BLM land and all is wellcome on the trail to off-road on.BLM states that there is no fee and all is wellcome to use all trails, but you are required to stay on all designated trails "ohv trails", and cleanup after yourselfs,what you take in, you take back out.
If you were from another part of the state or country and had a chance to have some one show and guide you on trails that you would like to run but have no knowledge of or reason to come wheel; wouldn't you jump at the chance even if you had to pay!?

now i am pissed, look asshole, i am not for that wilderness bullshit that the gov' is trying to pull.. and by the way i live in las cruces,nm . you know what i did last weekend by any chance, me and my family went up to dona ana mountains to maintain and clean up the trails. i dont drink, you must have me confused with someone else. i and my family has been cleaning up the trails becuz of assholes dumping shit.

This dude sent me an email of this same bullshit! :flipoff2:

now i am pissed, look asshole, i am not for that wilderness bullshit that the gov' is trying to pull.. and by the way i live in las cruces,nm . you know what i did last weekend by any chance, me and my family went up to dona ana mountains to maintain and clean up the trails. i dont drink, you must have me confused with someone else. i and my family has been cleaning up the trails becuz of assholes dumping shit.
Then why the hell are you bashing an event that obviously goes towards keeping all our trails open and responsibly used!?

Why would you come on here and specificly state that why would you pay to wheel if its free? Like I said before it takes more that just a weekend of cleanup to help keep the trails open and I take offence at you saying its stupid to pay. All of us in the club put in too much time to have to listen or deal w/people bashing The Chile Challenge just because they think its stupid or don't like someone and don't want to be stuck wheeling w/them. 350 plus people think other wise! NEWB!!

This dude sent me an email of this same bullshit! :flipoff2:
Seems like a lurking "Wilderness" or Sierra Club member trying to call himself an "Off-Road Enthuisast"! We need to watch out for these guys as they will be out in force this and next week trying to shut us down!!

I can't even wheel on extreme trails cuase i'm a local wheeler! thats a real issue!

and allso by the way, yes i have a off-road rig. and i will be wheeling at that time, hope to see you all on the trails. have fun.

and allso by the way, yes i have a off-road rig. and i will be wheeling at that time, hope to see you all on the trails. have fun.
I'll keep a look out for you in your Chevy Blazer w/the new front locker installed by 4 wheel parts in El Paso!!

:lmao::lmao::lmao:He's not a wilderness tree hugging, toad licking, goat bonin', hillary clinton fag. He's poor from spending all his money on locker and hes mad cuase he cant come out to play with the big boyz and there toyz!:flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2::grinpimp::grin pimp::grinpimp:

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

I can't even wheel on extreme trails cuase i'm a local wheeler! thats a real issue!
Thats news to me. You should have your confirmation by now if you provided an e-mail.
If you didn't get your requested trail and its full try asking the trail leader and see if he'll let you on anyway.

well my family goes out every single weekend to clean up and to ride the trails, we dont see any of you guys helping any. we wer out last weekend at the dona ana trails and we wer the only ones out wheeling and cleaning/repairing up the trails. there wer a few people out there shotting there guns no one else. i have ran several people off cuz they wer trying to dump stuff out there. me and my family has picked up roofing nails that people purposely threw on the trails, those people are try to stop us from wheeling. i am NOT part of that type of group.

you do so. hope to see you to.

I finally got an email with confirm # yesterday. Thanks. Ill be running the trails with roger little from chaparell. you know him i'm sure. aliitle 4x4co

well my family goes out every single weekend to clean up and to ride the trails, we dont see any of you guys helping any. we wer out last weekend at the dona ana trails and we wer the only ones out wheeling and cleaning/repairing up the trails. there wer a few people out there shotting there guns no one else. i have ran several people off cuz they wer trying to dump stuff out there. me and my family has picked up roofing nails that people purposely threw on the trails, those people are try to stop us from wheeling. i am NOT part of that type of group.
Don't be a crybaby! Man up and offer to help and maybe you'll be able to afford to attend and stop crying.
We could sure use some pics 'cause I think your just talking w/o proof!!
Just stop bitching!!
If you don't have the money or dont want to attend then fine. Just stop wasting all of our time. We've actually work hard for this and don't want some crybaby pissing and moaning when over 350 people have already signed up to play!!

I finally got an email with confirm # yesterday. Thanks. Ill be running the trails with roger little from chaparell. you know him i'm sure. aliitle 4x4co
Did he finish his new buggy? I heard its supposed to be sick.

He has an old buggy that will prolly never get to see rocks as long as he owns it ! but anyway check out the link, its pretty sick...http://www.boogerwelds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2166

He just finished it owner pics it up on sat.

Glenn can't handle this...And yes i'm perfectly content in my southwest redneck ways of breakin my shit... cuase cryin ain't gonna help you here bitch... carry spare parts...your gonna need em! COME AND GET SUM PUNK!

ok neil if you say so.lol,lol...

Yeah that made me chuckle.

why did it make you chuckle?,lol....

i dont have any problem with the " chile challenge" in its self, i just dont see eye to eye on why someone would pay for that when its free to off-road here on BLM land trails. BLM dont charge a fee, all is required is that people stay on the designated trails, and clean up after them selfs. so what does one get by giveing that $ up?

i dont have any problem with the " chile challenge" in its self, i just dont see eye to eye on why someone would pay for that when its free to off-road here on BLM land trails. BLM dont charge a fee, all is required is that people stay on the designated trails, and clean up after them selfs. so what does one get by giveing that $ up?
Keeping public lands public.
Like I said before if you don't know the whole story:

first of all fucknutts, you dont know me, so dont judge me. i have the $ if i wanted to pay into it, but i am choosing not to. dont get all butthurt here cuz i dont agree with you guys. this is one of many reasons why i dont join into any clubs anymore, becuz of attitudes like yours and many others.

wow...I can see your point if you live there, I'm not sure if they had an event here in Denver if I'd want to pay either. I've never been to Cruces, neither has my friend and we're both pretty excited to come down and have someone show us around properly:)

Its also a good way to meet new people, I don't know any locals there, so I'm not sure I want to drive 650 miles each way to have some guy I met on an internet site show me around...he might be a complete idiot. This way you can check it all out, meet some cool people, and help out the cause. Maybe I'll meet some cool locals that I want to drive down and wheel with next time for free, I don't know.

No need to rain on it, lots of people are excited about it and the local club has put a ton of work into making sure it goes smoothly:)

SEE YOU IN 4 DAYS!!!:D

, i just dont see eye to eye on why someone would pay for that when its free to off-road here on BLM land trails. BLM dont charge a fee, all is required is that people stay on the designated trails, and clean up after them selfs. so what does one get by giveing that $ up?

1. we get fed 2 nights
2. we get an area with trash cans, showers, and shitters to camp for the week.
3. we get to camp on site with 350 other like minded people. we get to see freinds we only see at this event, and meet new ones from different places around the world.
4. we have the chance to win stuff in raffles.
5. we dontate to the land action funds. Sometimes its nice to meet your SW4WDA representitives and hand them a check personally. shake thier hands for their hard work, buy them a beer.
6. we get to thank the LC4WDC and its mebers PERSONALLY for all thier hard work and contirbutions in keeping the area open.

I'm sure i could come up with more if i spent more time, but thats what stands out the most to me. I am semi-local (ABQ), and do infact spend many weekends a year in the LC area wheeling. The fact of the matter is that we still pay to come to CC every year, for the reasons above.

If you dont feel the same way thats FINE. Why are you here in a thread about the event, if you dont care about it?? f-n beat it and go get to wheeling all by your lonesome.

Well chit... i'm confused now....

Sceep what is you comfirmation number?.....i'm 91

Got my comfirmation 2 days ago with this...
Wed......no trail selected
Thr........Patz
Fri.........Hababero Falls
Sat........no trail selected

I e-mailed the person back asking what was up with "no trail selected" know i picked 3 trails for each day, as i have a copy in front of me.....

I then get this reply a few minutes ago....

Well the last few days has been fun. It turns out that our new database decided to insert “No Trail Selected” in the confirmations for about six or seven trails. This is the first time my phone message box has ever gotten full. I have now double checked every single registration that someone contacted me about. In every single case, you DO have a trail that day if you wanted one.

If you are receiving this email, you are registered, and have a participant number.

Here are the answers to the most frequently asked questions:

1. Did I get the trails I wanted?

A. If you asked for a hard, moderate, or easy trail – YES, you should have the trails you wanted. On the extreme trails, if your number is less than 100, still generally yes. If your number is over 100, I tried to give you at least three of your extreme choices with a hard filling in the fourth. If your registration came in after Feb 1st, you did get trails to run, but they may not be anything that you asked for. But you are on a trail each day you want to be.

So basically my line up "should" look like this when i check in?????

Wed......Patz
Thr........Patz
Fri.........Hababero Falls
Sat........Tabasco Twister

If thats the case, then why is sceep on Off Broad Sat when i know he sent his in a few days before me.

-David

I go wheelin everywhere for free also, well except for Moab, but none the less, we pay to do what other here have posted, if you can't handle it , don't pay, don't go, and have a nice fargin day! Quit bashin cause you don't want to pay, thats your problem! Leave us alone and have fun in the Dona Ana's.
I'm sure you will go far with your new locker in your blazer.:flipoff2:

PS: I chuckled because your an idiot wrapped up in a dumbass!

Thank you for the quick responses from all at LC4WDC. All of us here in El Paso understand all the effort and hard work involved with putting this event on. We also understand the problems with the new program you guys are using to organize every individuals trail lists. We know LC4WDC is doing everything in there power to get stuff straght and the DesertxLizards would like to say thank you to all of you who put this event on year after year. Long live the CHILI CHALLENGE!

Glenn can't handle this...And yes i'm perfectly content in my southwest redneck ways of breakin my shit... cuase cryin ain't gonna help you here bitch... carry spare parts...your gonna need em! COME AND GET SUM PUNK!

Where was this?

Las Cruces and and the bottom pic is from El Paso. The Guy standing next to my jeep right now is in Iraq and the one wheelin the black inter.tractor is in Kuwait. Both of those guy would love to be here for the CC.

chile challenge next week====== Fu@k yeah!!!!!

chile challenge next week====== Fu@k yeah!!!!!

X2....:smokin:

DAMN! Its the same week as the King Of The Hammers event... I was for sure going to go this year:(


Been meaning to hit that area up for quite a while now....

-Matt Ruskow

Give us a shout when you do decide to come here and we'll be glad to guide or run the trails with you.:smokin:

Bitch Bitch, Bitch!! I told you there were plenty of people who disagreed w/your idiocy.
Now to quote SCEEP:If you dont feel the same way thats FINE. Why are you here in a thread about the event, if you dont care about it?? Beat it and go get to wheeling all by your lonesome.

I look foward to seeing all of you later this week. Some of you I'll be meeting for the first time and others I'll be seeing again. Good luck and a safe trip to all of you traveling down to enjoy our wonderful EVENT!! Long live the CHILI CHALLENGE!!

That fargin idiot went to 4 wheel parts and talked to my buds there today, they said he called me a snake in the grass. haaahhaaah!, and then thay said he wouldn't shut up! Imagine that! :flipoff2:

You do know that there are about 350 plus people who totally disagree w/you. For a good portion of us locals we work all year for this to be able to wheel w/others and have fun. You do also know that the BLM has issued us a "Exclusive Use" permit for this EVENT that will be enforced by local Law Enforcement to keep you off the trails while those of us who actually care enjoy them w/o any issues from you "TAGALONGS"!!
Just got this in a e-mail from the Las Cruces BLM Office:

"On Monday, the BLM will publish in the Las Cruces Sun News a closure notice for the general public for the Chile Canyon area. Our exclusive permit covers all the way to Habanero Falls this time. We have retained use of all of our CC canyon area trails."

hi assholes, hi neil, dickheads you only have that one little area ,the rest of blm trails is all open to the puplic, you guys cant do shit, i have been to the BLM office and found out the scoop about all. so see you guys on the rest of the trails. i have seen the paper work on your so-called "event" and i have seen the maps that you guys have the "exclusive" right on, it an't much.

Chile Canyon area, is the only area that you have "exclusive" rights to bone heads no other place, the rest is all open to the public.dont believe me, LOOK AT YOUR "PERMIT" AND PAPERWORK.

Ask Me If I Realy Give A Rats Ass!!! I Will Be Riding All Trails, And U Cant Do Shit About Dickcheese......

hi assholes, hi neil, dickheads you only have that one little area ,the rest of blm trails is all open to the puplic, you guys cant do shit, i have been to the BLM office and found out the scoop about all. so see you guys on the rest of the trails. i have seen the paper work on your so-called "event" and i have seen the maps that you guys have the "exclusive" right on, it an't much.
Yet our one "little" area has the majority of trails in ther area. Why do you think we call it the "CHILE CHALLENGE"? It's gonna happen.

Ask Me If I Realy Give A Rats Ass!!! I Will Be Riding All Trails, And U Cant Do Shit About Dickcheese......
Get some real friends and get off the board. Web wheeling isn't real wheeling. In case you haven't figured it out yet!

Ask Me If I Realy Give A Rats Ass!!! I Will Be Riding All Trails, And U Cant Do Shit About Dickcheese......
Some example you're setting for your family. GREAT JOB!!

U Hav'nt Seen Nothing Yet!

IDIOT!!!! Chile Canyon area, ONLY MAKES UP 2% OF ALL BLM TRAILS HERE IN DONA ANA COUNTY.... AND BY THE WAY, TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT, I AM ( NOT ) A TREE HUGGER, NOR AM I FOR THAT "WILDERNESS" BULLSHIT.

DONT WORRY, I WILL NOT "RAIN" ON YOUR LITTLE SO-CALLED "EVENT" OVER IN THE Chile Canyon area, THERES TO MANY OTHER TRAILS TO RIDE ON AND HAVE FUN WITH.

DONT WORRY, I WILL NOT "RAIN" ON YOUR LITTLE SO-CALLED "EVENT" OVER IN THE Chile Canyon area, THERES TO MANY OTHER TRAILS TO RIDE ON AND HAVE FUN WITH.
Have fun by yourself and leave the rest of us alone!!

IDIOT!!!! Chile Canyon area, ONLY MAKES UP 2% OF ALL BLM TRAILS HERE IN DONA ANA COUNTY.... AND BY THE WAY, TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT, I AM ( NOT ) A TREE HUGGER, NOR AM I FOR THAT "WILDERNESS" BULLSHIT.
Pot Calling the Kettle Black?

DONT WORRY, I WILL NOT "RAIN" ON YOUR LITTLE SO-CALLED "EVENT" OVER IN THE Chile Canyon area, THERES TO MANY OTHER TRAILS TO RIDE ON AND HAVE FUN WITH.
Come check us out and see how "LITTLE" we really are!!

lol, i will not be by my self, i will be with lots of people

compared to "moab" you are little.

Thousands of Hard-Core 'Wheelers Converge in Scenic Utah For a Week-long Tribute to Rockcrawling (((( moab )))). lol,lol, compared to "moab" you are little.

Each year during the week preceding Easter, an off-road event takes place in Moab, Utah, that defines the sport of rockcrawling. For more than 20 years, enthusiasts have been flocking to Moab during Easter week for rockcrawling to share the camaraderie that off-roading offers and to see and be seen at the numerous events, shows, and dinners put on by the Moab faithful. And they mean faithful: More than 5,000 4x4s and in excess of 12,000 spectators pack the city of Moab for a week-long celebration of wheelin'. ((( MOAB ))) IS A NATIONAL EVENT.

Now you're just being STUPID! Load you "family" in your Blazer w/its new locker and move to Moab if you think its sooo much better! I guess you just like to hear youself type or talk. Your just spewing stupid now and I'm not even gonna give you any more to spew about.

It's here, It's happening, Deal with it!!

so your little "event" is by no comparison to "moab"your so-called "event" is just a gathering. they got way over 19,000 + people compared to your 350 people. some of you people need to stop saying your a real "event" cuz your not.

the good thing about this is, i dont have to deal with it, thats why i choose not to join your clubs and not wheel in your so-called event. thats my right. to each there own. i am starting to think your guys in this forum love drama.

Neil Rose <neilsrose@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Stay tuned for my next post after the chile challenge! That will get their panties in a wad:
glenn_7_1069@yahoo.com> wrote: what you mean by"
That will get their panties in a wad!" ,lol.
Neil Rose <neilsrose@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Lets just say they will either take it as constructive criticism or they will get mad. Either way, I honestly don't give a shit! You will understand in my next post.
Neil Rose <neilsrose@sbcglobal.net> wrote: What kind of rig do you have and who's installing your locker?
glenn_7_1069@yahoo.com> wrote: chevy blazer, and 4wheelparts
Neil Rose <neilsrose@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Cool man, I got two buddies that work at 4wheel parts, Beto and Joe, they will take care of you for sure. Alright man well have fun and wheel safe. Check out our local website... www.desertxlizard .com. Yes it is a club, but its a free club. And we are all about the offroad community, family, freinds, and just having a good time. Our drinking club has a rock crawling problem! just kidding, take care man.

Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:03:18 -0800 (PST)
From: "Neil Rose" <neilsrose@sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: offroading
To: <glenn_7_1069@yahoo.com>

Glenn you are truely a fuckin moron. I sent you that email after you sent me the copy and paste of the bullshit you posted here! I wrote you that email to find out who and what you were up to. I sent a copy of the emails to the people who needed to see them. You fell right into a trap, you fuckin moron. I only wrote you that to see what you would say. Please go wheel and talk elsewhere, I personally think you are to closed/narrow minded to be part of any group or club, not to mention "YOUR A DUMBASS!". Please put this issue to rest already. Nobody here honestly give a rats ass what you think or have to say! So Fuck off you fuckin LOSER! :flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2::


PS glenn...there is a fine line between insanity and stupid... you are stuck in the middle!

I have been quitely watching and reading this thread and wasn't going to chime in but I will.

glenn_7_1069: What does it matter what nick name we give it, A "event", "competition", "gathering", "mob meeting", "union meeting", "church" or a "cake social", since you are not going? You have chosen to not be a part of it, so let us call it whatever we, those of us that have chosen to be part of it, want to call it.

No this "church social" is not as big as Moab, but that's comparing apples to oranges. Moab has one or two more miles of trails than we have here. I'm sorry but that was just a dumb comparasin.

You own a blazer with a shop installed locker, so you do like offroading, but you are in no way able to do all the trails that are out there. Most of us have rigs that are "trailer queens" that we built ourselves. Cages, two solid lockers, lower t-case and axle gears, big meats, bla bla bla.

The closing of the "Cake social" canyon is for two main reasons, #1: SAFTEY, go back to last years pictures of the saturday's extreme trail pictures and you can easily see what I am talking about, It was STUPID crowded with spectaters. They are everywhere, like mice looking for "cake" scraps. There are winch lines running everywhere, rigs turning over from to much "cake" and these people have no idea of the dangers, they only want to get closer to take a picture with there "phone camera"
#2: Speed, we do have alot of rigs to sqeeze up and down the "cake canyon" That's why we all depart the fair grounds at a differant time, so hopefully, we meet in the canyon in a area that we can pass each other and not in a tight spot where one group has to wait or worst yet one group has to turn around or back up.

We are NOT closing the "cake" area to stop people from wheeling there just cuz we want our "cake" and we want to "eat" it too. We are only shutting it off to non paticapents for "safty" and "speed" purpose.

You may not wheel with the "Church" group's not because we think we are better than you, but because of insurance reasons, the trail leader is responsable for his group, All of which have signed a release.

This is BLM land and you may wheel this land for free all year, You can also wheel some of it during our "union meeting" just not with our "union" groups do to insurance reasons.

We have chosen to paticapate in this "Event" and you have not, That's why i love this country, we all have the right to do AS WE CHOOSE (that includes using the word "event")

Sceep said it well earlier when he said we go to this "thing" for more reasons than to just wheel, we go for the comratery. If you ever build something for your truck and you install it yourself you will understand what we are talking about, you want other people to see what you built and you want to see other peoples rigs to get some ideas of what they have done.

There's alot of "socializing" that go's on here, If you don't belive me just come out to the fair grounds one afternoon or evening and just walk around, there's alot of people walking around talking to each other, working on there rigs, eating, just shooting the shit. Best of all it's time off work with friends, new and old.

So please don't talk shit about, or question what we choose to call our "whatever". You made your choice NOT to go so you also made your choice NOT to complane about it. It's like voting DON'T bitch about who got elected if you didn't vote.

Everyone else; just don't post up to this guy anymore let him rant all he wants you are only instagating him. He does not have a rig that is ANYWHERE capable of doing the trails that are off Big Jim canyon, so he will be in the Dona Ana mountain area with his picnic basket and blanket, Let him be.

I AM DONE HERE...........

OH I will see the rest of you out at the "Union grounds" and in "Cake canyon" during our "Crurch social" TWO MORE DAYS............................

Amen brotha!

I have been quitely watching and reading this thread and wasn't going to chime in but I will.

glenn_7_1069: What does it matter what nick name we give it, A "event", "competition", "gathering", "mob meeting", "union meeting", "church" or a "cake social", since you are not going? You have chosen to not be a part of it, so let us call it whatever we, those of us that have chosen to be part of it, want to call it.

No this "church social" is not as big as Moab, but that's comparing apples to oranges. Moab has one or two more miles of trails than we have here. I'm sorry but that was just a dumb comparasin.

You own a blazer with a shop installed locker, so you do like offroading, but you are in no way able to do all the trails that are out there. Most of us have rigs that are "trailer queens" that we built ourselves. Cages, two solid lockers, lower t-case and axle gears, big meats, bla bla bla.

The closing of the "Cake social" canyon is for two main reasons, #1: SAFTEY, go back to last years pictures of the saturday's extreme trail pictures and you can easily see what I am talking about, It was STUPID crowded with spectaters. They are everywhere, like mice looking for "cake" scraps. There are winch lines running everywhere, rigs turning over from to much "cake" and these people have no idea of the dangers, they only want to get closer to take a picture with there "phone camera"
#2: Speed, we do have alot of rigs to sqeeze up and down the "cake canyon" That's why we all depart the fair grounds at a differant time, so hopefully, we meet in the canyon in a area that we can pass each other and not in a tight spot where one group has to wait or worst yet one group has to turn around or back up.

We are NOT closing the "cake" area to stop people from wheeling there just cuz we want our "cake" and we want to "eat" it too. We are only shutting it off to non paticapents for "safty" and "speed" purpose.

You may not wheel with the "Church" group's not because we think we are better than you, but because of insurance reasons, the trail leader is responsable for his group, All of which have signed a release.

This is BLM land and you may wheel this land for free all year, You can also wheel some of it during our "union meeting" just not with our "union" groups do to insurance reasons.

We have chosen to paticapate in this "Event" and you have not, That's why i love this country, we all have the right to do AS WE CHOOSE (that includes using the word "event")

Sceep said it well earlier when he said we go to this "thing" for more reasons than to just wheel, we go for the comratery. If you ever build something for your truck and you install it yourself you will understand what we are talking about, you want other people to see what you built and you want to see other peoples rigs to get some ideas of what they have done.

There's alot of "socializing" that go's on here, If you don't belive me just come out to the fair grounds one afternoon or evening and just walk around, there's alot of people walking around talking to each other, working on there rigs, eating, just shooting the shit. Best of all it's time off work with friends, new and old.

So please don't talk shit about, or question what we choose to call our "whatever". You made your choice NOT to go so you also made your choice NOT to complane about it. It's like voting DON'T bitch about who got elected if you didn't vote.

Everyone else; just don't post up to this guy anymore let him rant all he wants you are only instagating him. He does not have a rig that is ANYWHERE capable of doing the trails that are off Big Jim canyon, so he will be in the Dona Ana mountain area with his picnic basket and blanket, Let him be.

I AM DONE HERE...........

OH I will see the rest of you out at the "Union grounds" and in "Cake canyon" during our "Crurch social" TWO MORE DAYS............................







thanks for the input, point taken. be safe, have fun wheeling.

glenn_7_1069: I was not shitting you when I told you to stop by my camper for a drink and some food, there is allways a extra chair at my place for anyone. Come and shoot the shit.
I am in a light blue 87 ford p/u whith a cab over camper, Buddies got a 98 white ford p/u pulling a white enclosed. We will be camped just off the road in on the left about half way between the fence and the bathrooms.
Anyone stop by and lets put faces to these screen names... Oh, mines Heath

aside from all the drama, trailer is LOADED and we are heading out tomorrow early AM!!

see you all at the fairgrounds :D:D:D:D

jeep's on the trailer, rover's on the trailer, tent and chairs and tools are packed.

just gotta throw some clothes in a duffel bag and we are OUTTTAH HERE!!!

on my way now to fix the flat on the car trailer, clean and load the the camper(food and clothes) then i'm leaving wedsday at noon. See you guys there ! ! ! !

What no more drama!?:flipoff2: Damn I guess I'll start loading up to!:smokin:

trailer is LOADED and we are heading out tomorrow early AM!!

see you all at the fairgrounds :D:D:D:D


X2.......:smokin:

jeep's on the trailer, rover's on the trailer, tent and chairs and tools are packed.

just gotta throw some clothes in a duffel bag and we are OUTTTAH HERE!!!

Keep some room next to ya for a truck and trailer, i'll most likely be in focken late Wed.....like 2amish late

-David

I have 3 payed nights camping with electric if anyone needs it....oh and maybe two meal tickets each night.

I have been quitely watching and reading this thread and wasn't going to chime in but I will.

glenn_7_1069: What does it matter what nick name we give it, A "event", "competition", "gathering", "mob meeting", "union meeting", "church" or a "cake social", since you are not going? You have chosen to not be a part of it, so let us call it whatever we, those of us that have chosen to be part of it, want to call it.

No this "church social" is not as big as Moab, but that's comparing apples to oranges. Moab has one or two more miles of trails than we have here. I'm sorry but that was just a dumb comparasin.

You own a blazer with a shop installed locker, so you do like offroading, but you are in no way able to do all the trails that are out there. Most of us have rigs that are "trailer queens" that we built ourselves. Cages, two solid lockers, lower t-case and axle gears, big meats, bla bla bla.

The closing of the "Cake social" canyon is for two main reasons, #1: SAFTEY, go back to last years pictures of the saturday's extreme trail pictures and you can easily see what I am talking about, It was STUPID crowded with spectaters. They are everywhere, like mice looking for "cake" scraps. There are winch lines running everywhere, rigs turning over from to much "cake" and these people have no idea of the dangers, they only want to get closer to take a picture with there "phone camera"
#2: Speed, we do have alot of rigs to sqeeze up and down the "cake canyon" That's why we all depart the fair grounds at a differant time, so hopefully, we meet in the canyon in a area that we can pass each other and not in a tight spot where one group has to wait or worst yet one group has to turn around or back up.

We are NOT closing the "cake" area to stop people from wheeling there just cuz we want our "cake" and we want to "eat" it too. We are only shutting it off to non paticapents for "safty" and "speed" purpose.

You may not wheel with the "Church" group's not because we think we are better than you, but because of insurance reasons, the trail leader is responsable for his group, All of which have signed a release.

This is BLM land and you may wheel this land for free all year, You can also wheel some of it during our "union meeting" just not with our "union" groups do to insurance reasons.

We have chosen to paticapate in this "Event" and you have not, That's why i love this country, we all have the right to do AS WE CHOOSE (that includes using the word "event")

Sceep said it well earlier when he said we go to this "thing" for more reasons than to just wheel, we go for the comratery. If you ever build something for your truck and you install it yourself you will understand what we are talking about, you want other people to see what you built and you want to see other peoples rigs to get some ideas of what they have done.

There's alot of "socializing" that go's on here, If you don't belive me just come out to the fair grounds one afternoon or evening and just walk around, there's alot of people walking around talking to each other, working on there rigs, eating, just shooting the shit. Best of all it's time off work with friends, new and old.

So please don't talk shit about, or question what we choose to call our "whatever". You made your choice NOT to go so you also made your choice NOT to complane about it. It's like voting DON'T bitch about who got elected if you didn't vote.

Everyone else; just don't post up to this guy anymore let him rant all he wants you are only instagating him. He does not have a rig that is ANYWHERE capable of doing the trails that are off Big Jim canyon, so he will be in the Dona Ana mountain area with his picnic basket and blanket, Let him be.

I AM DONE HERE...........

OH I will see the rest of you out at the "Union grounds" and in "Cake canyon" during our "Crurch social" TWO MORE DAYS............................

Looked in the Sun News today and didn't see the use permit? Also, do I understand correctly that there will finally be no spectators this year?

See you all in TWO DAYS!

I will also have lots of toyota biffs and axles for sale. Some warn locking hubs for toyota and dana 44, some other stuff also. hit me up.....Heath

heading out, West Bound...:smokin:

see ya their..

we're outtah here!!!!!

see you in a couple hours!.

headin out tomorrow... if any one wants to put a screen name to the face we will be the only ones in a pink yj.. see ya all out there.

Looking forward to meeting some of you folks. I'll be getting in late Friday to spectate on Saturday. I have a buddy of mine who is going on some of the easier trails earlier in the week. We're also taking out some of our rc rock crawlers to play around with as well.

Are the trails open to the public on Sunday? I'd like to do some wheeling, nothing too extreme as my grocery getter isn't nearly as built up as many of the other rigs I've seen.

One other question, any suggestions about using a cb or not? I know it is the age of the cell phone, but I didn't know if there would be any chatter on the cb channels.

Looking forward to meeting some of you folks. I'll be getting in late Friday to spectate on Saturday. I have a buddy of mine who is going on some of the easier trails earlier in the week. We're also taking out some of our rc rock crawlers to play around with as well.

Are the trails open to the public on Sunday? I'd like to do some wheeling, nothing too extreme as my grocery getter isn't nearly as built up as many of the other rigs I've seen.

One other question, any suggestions about using a cb or not? I know it is the age of the cell phone, but I didn't know if there would be any chatter on the cb channels.

yes the trails are open sunday, here in dona ana county trails that are on BLM land are open 24/7 to the public. There are over 45,000 miles of roads and trails that provide access to most areas of public land here, and offer vehicle recreation opportunities ranging from scenic drives on maintained roads to extreme four-wheel driving, not to mention all-terrain vehicle and mountain bike trails. These public lands also include developed picnic and campgrounds, hiking trails, scenic byways, historic and prehistoric sites, rockhounding, mountaineering, and even a little fishing. ((((The Robledo Mountains Off-Highway Vehicle Trail System is a network of trails, including both extreme OHV and mountain bike trails, in the southern Robledo Mountains. The trails are dominated by enormous rocks, making the terrain extraordinarily challenging for riders. The extreme OHV trails require specialized vehicles, with locking differentials, winches, and expert drivers. Vehicle damage is not uncommon on these very difficult OHV trails. )))) Location / Access
The Robledo Mountains OHV Area and SST Trail are in the Robledo Mountains about four miles northwest of Las Cruces. Take Valley Drive (U.S. 85) north to Shalem Colony Trail, go west on Shalem Colony Trail across the Rio Grande, turn right on Rocky Acres Trail, and take the first left off the wide dirt road. You will see signs for extreme four-wheel drive trails south of the main road; trails north of that road have been closed. The main road goes west toward a rock mine; take the left fork in the arroyo bottom, climb the hill, and go right up the canyon bottom to find the mountain bike trail and additional extreme four-wheel drive routes. and yes a ( c.b )is good to have.

I've read through the thread and I understand the motive behind your post. What I'm specifically asking is are any of the easier trails open on Sunday which are otherwise restricted during the event.

Meh, I'll find out either way when I get there.

Had an absolutely awesome day here in Cruces today, hope everybody enjoyed the trails!

Cloak- YES, after Saturday all trails will open back up to the general public.

i just got done telling him that. the only trails closed to the public are in the chile canyon area till sat.only registered are allowed in the chile canyon area,but all other trails are open.

Hey Glenn...:flipoff2:

Hey Glenn...:flipoff2:

BACK AT YOU...:flipoff2:

every one of glenn's posts are solely in this thread...wtf?

Anyway, hope you guys had a GREAT time this week. I didn't make it down this year, but might again next. I had a ball the last two years down there, just scheduling didn't work out for me this time.

It was a lot of fun, glad I went.

The local paper here in Las Cruces, NM (where Chile Challenge is held) is running a poll.

"The Las Cruces Sun News is conducting an on-line poll about if the Chile Challenge should continue. We need all the votes we can get. Please go to this URL and vote YES:
http://www.lcsun-news.com/ It is on the left hand side of the page and most likely you will have to scroll down a bit to see it. Get your friends to vote yes also."

Much appreciated, and if you have not ever made it to this event, you are missing out. Let's hope this was not the last year for it.

Thanks!