: clocked d300, how to tell oil level???
RockReadyXJ 06-27-2002, 09:47 AM how does everyone with a clocked d300 tell when theres enought oil in it? i used the go2guy reindexing ring and turned it completely flat so now the fill hole is way to high. first off i filled it to the top of the fill hole knowing that would be to much and that it would leak just to make sure there was enough in there. Now i have about 10 different leaks under my jeep and i can't tell if the 300 is leaking to much or if its ok.
anyone figured out a way to fill it up enough without putting to much in
yes i searched pretty good
thanks for any ideas
4Bangler 06-27-2002, 10:01 AM How about does someone with a non-clocked Dana 300 know how much fluid capacity the case has, or maybe a FSM or Chiltons? You could measure out the right amount and pour that in.
stemp 06-27-2002, 10:09 AM I would contact Advance Adapters and ask them. Don't tell them you got the clocking ring somewhere else just let them think that you got it used. They should be able to tell you how much oil to put in.
Originally posted by 4Bangler
How about does someone with a non-clocked Dana 300 know how much fluid capacity the case has, or maybe a FSM or Chiltons? You could measure out the right amount and pour that in.
With it clocked, it will require a different amount of oil to make sure the gears are coated enough but to much will cause them to wear prematurely. To much oil will also cause more pressure when the gears are turning. Best bet, ask AA.
Stemp
P.S. RockReady, any more pics of your raised fuel tank? Looking for pics of the filler, filler hose, and if you have any, the mounts (skid plate and straps) in place without the tank in. Thanks man.
Go2Guy 06-27-2002, 10:29 AM I'm not sure if you bought the kit direct or second hand, the instructions do tell you 2 qts, which is the original amt.
I did a lot of initial homework on this to substantiate using the same amount. Using more will toss it out the seals etc. In the original setup that oil has to splash it's way up hill to the upper pieces (that's why there are flat tow issues) rotated 300's have all the rotating parts splashing around and will lube better. filling up to the fill plug on a rotated t-case is obviously way more than 2 qts.
On my own jeep I just throw in two qts and forget about it as long as their are no leaks. You can pull some of the front output cover bolts to get an idea if you are dry or wet etc.
If a person wanted to they could drill and tap to 1/8 pipe holes, use 90's with a clear tube between them- similar to atlas set-up. personally I don't think it's worth the hassle.
Call me if you need to review further- 479 636-4669
Question on that clocking ring...
what's the bolt circle and what size bolts does it use... I'm considering clocking up my Ford NP205, and eyeballing it, it looks like a close match.
stemp 06-27-2002, 10:59 AM Originally posted by G02Guy
I did a lot of initial homework on this to substantiate using the same amount. Using more will toss it out the seals etc. In the original setup that oil has to splash it's way up hill to the upper pieces (that's why there are flat tow issues) rotated 300's have all the rotating parts splashing around and will lube better. filling up to the fill plug on a rotated t-case is obviously way more than 2 qts.
You got to love it when someone else does all the research and testing and you get to reap the rewards. If it works and you like, why go through all the hasle of reinventing it. Most wheelers are willing to share their knowledge just to promote the sport.
GO2Guy, do you have a web page? I'm looking at clocking my 300. When you did yours, did you have any clearance problems?
Thanks.
Go2Guy 06-27-2002, 11:29 AM MO- I don't know much about the 205 and if it will lend itself to clocking- try a search- seems like someone has done it. I use 3/8 bolts, not sure on BC- I'd have to dig out the prints- all done on NC machine. Compare it to a readily available gasket would be your best bet.
Stemp- sorry no web-site, need to get one, too busy with work and toys. Every app is different- I had to tweak my exhaust to clear my drive shaft and i already had a one inch bodylift. There are three positions, one on either side of the one i used. You can PM or e-mail me for more info.:D
stemp 06-27-2002, 11:43 AM Thanks GO2Guy. Both me and my bub are looking at clocking our 300s. Right now I'm following RockReady's lead and raising my fuel tank into the bed to make room to push the axle back 10 inches. I'm also looking at going to a TF-727 instead of the current T-5 and possibly using a Klune-V or stacking another T-Case. How much for your clocking ring? What does it come with?
Stemp
Go2Guy 06-27-2002, 11:58 AM I PM'd you on the info you asked for.
4Bangler 06-27-2002, 12:01 PM Hey, I'd like to know what it comes with too.
RockReadyXJ 06-27-2002, 04:29 PM Go2guy, yea i read the instructions befor putting it on but i kinda tipped some used oil onto the piece of paper so i don't have it anymore, i'll just meausre out 2 quarts next time.
thanks
stemp
i'll take some more pics of everything and post them on that thread,
everyone
the go2guys kit comes with the reindexing ring, a seal extender, all nuts and studs needed and i think thats it, everything you need. pretty quick to
Monkeyboy 06-27-2002, 04:40 PM I filled mine while it was in the stock location then I clocked it up later.
I never had to worry Bout how much.
JEEPRZ 06-27-2002, 08:16 PM I pulled the coutershaft retaining bolt to use as a level indicator. This is prolly a bit more oil than necessary, but I dont have leakage problems. Its also easy to get to when the skidplate is on
RockReadyXJ 06-28-2002, 06:35 AM where s the coutershaft retaining bolt?
JEEPRZ 06-28-2002, 06:33 PM There is a tab with a bolt in, on the back of the case, between the tail housing and front output shaft bearing retainer.. The tab holds the shaft in.
ledjer 07-05-2002, 01:26 PM Originally posted by RockReadyXJ
how does everyone with a clocked d300 tell when theres enought oil in it? i used the go2guy reindexing ring and turned it completely flat so now the fill hole is way to high. first off i filled it to the top of the fill hole knowing that would be to much and that it would leak just to make sure there was enough in there. Now i have about 10 different leaks under my jeep and i can't tell if the 300 is leaking to much or if its ok.
anyone figured out a way to fill it up enough without putting to much in
yes i searched pretty good
thanks for any ideas
I check mine by removing the upper left bolt on the cover just below the oil fill plug. This is almost in the same location as the fill plug when in stock position.
Just remove the bolt and fill until oil comes out. Done!
1BDYJ 07-05-2002, 04:27 PM website for clocking is;
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/xfer/tindex/
mccombs07 07-05-2002, 04:54 PM I asked Novak about the oil level in the clocked case and they said that you should fill it about 80 percent full. I hope your a better judge of percentages than I am. Snoogins
Oxjockey 07-07-2002, 07:21 PM Does anyone have issues with the oil leaking out the speedo cable when it's clocked?
Bryan
SanDiegoCJ 07-07-2002, 08:05 PM Originally posted by Oxjockey
Does anyone have issues with the oil leaking out the speedo cable when it's clocked?
Bryan
Nope. My D300 is clocked and I filled it to the "fill plug" level,
just as if it wasn't clocked. I've had no problems.
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