: How do you heat your garage


Hosejockey
12-14-2007, 07:19 AM
i was planning on using a wood burning stove but the current insurance company and many others i have talked to wont allow wood burners in a garage.

so how do you heat your garage and do you like it.

PTSchram
12-14-2007, 07:41 AM
While many do not like them, I'm using a diesel fired salamander until I can get the gas forced air unit installed.

Mechanos
12-14-2007, 07:46 AM
How about an outdoor wood-fired boiler something like these (http://www.aqua-therm.com/)? They can be place away from the building and then hot water is piped into the building for heat.

Hosejockey
12-14-2007, 08:25 AM
i thought about one of those wood burning units but they cost a ton. wood is free though and i have alot.

i guess i should have specified the garage too. its a 30/40 stick built garage 10 foot walls and about 14 foot ceilings. i just got done insulating the walls and am now working on the ceiling. 16x9 insulated door.

Urban Wheeler
12-14-2007, 08:49 AM
I have one of those gas heaters that hang from the ceiling. I have a 2 car insulated garage. I let it run for about 10 minutes and the garage warms up nice enough to work in, although there are some cold spots for awhile.

oldjeep
12-14-2007, 09:53 AM
Cadet Hot One 220V heater. I like it a lot. (20x24 insulated garage with 9 foot ceilings)
http://www.cadetco.com/show_product.php?prodid=1012
Last few years I've had a propane ventless heater, which made me feel like crap when it ran too long and would suck a grill tank empty in 4 hours.

Todd W
12-14-2007, 09:54 AM
We have another thread about this recently.

I have a 30-60k BTU torpedo forced air propane heater. Works good for my lil 2 car garage. Only needs to run a bit to warm it up. No insulation, tall rafters, then again I am in CA and I only want to take the chill/dampness out of the air and maybe raise it 5*. :D

vanguard_anon
12-14-2007, 10:13 AM
I'm happy with my setup. I started with kerosene but it was stinky and it gave me a headache. Then I used electric but it's expensive. Finally I went to natural gas with a mounted heater, which is really the right way to go.

I put up a page about it. (BTW, since I did that I painted my garage/shop)
http://www.just4fun.org/woodworking/articles/shop_heat.htm

the burbanator
12-14-2007, 10:25 AM
i thiking of using our forced air home furnace and running a duct out to the garage. it all ready has a cold air return and a register vent on the floor. just gotta run a few pieces to the vent from the heat duct. helps that the furnace is next to the garage. wont keep it super warm but maybe warm enough

also thinking of one of these http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200332741_200332741

my garage is roughly 28x30 with 8 foot cielings (under the house) so the space to heat isnt that bad. ive also got a salamader that im burning diesel in if its to cold but it stinks and make you feel ill after a while.

jpboyjeep
12-14-2007, 10:39 AM
I'm using radiant floor...

But if I had an existing structure, I'd find a cheap house forced air unit on craigslist or something and hang it sideways. And I still might if the cost to run my electric stuff is too high...

Lucas

uglyscout
12-14-2007, 11:26 AM
Before I moved to my current warmer climate I used this to heat my garage:

http://ihsto.org/pirate/coveralls.jpg

:flipoff2:

Seriously though I had one of these in our Minnesota place running off a big 100# LP tank. We filled it 2x during the winter. Heated probably 800 sq. ft in minutes.

http://www.heatershop.com/garage_heater_gp30t.html

jtr
12-14-2007, 11:46 AM
Turkey fryer burner with the window cracked about 4 inches. It makes my two car garage sweatshirt weather in no time.



http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:wQZZdyVySnL2cM:http://www.freepatentsonline.com/D0486689-0-large.jpg

jwag
12-14-2007, 11:46 AM
Coleman Powermate Heater

It attached directly to a propane bottle

http://www.canadiantire.ca/gateway/portable-heaters.htm

works awesome

ironpig70
12-14-2007, 01:06 PM
at work we use a 191,000 btu propane salamander its about a 50x40 shop with 14' ceilings. after an hour its t-shirt time:D

brewchief
12-14-2007, 02:44 PM
i thiking of using our forced air home furnace and running a duct out to the garage. it all ready has a cold air return and a register vent on the floor. just gotta run a few pieces to the vent from the heat duct. helps that the furnace is next to the garage. wont keep it super warm but maybe warm enough

also thinking of one of these http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200332741_200332741

my garage is roughly 28x30 with 8 foot cielings (under the house) so the space to heat isnt that bad. ive also got a salamader that im burning diesel in if its to cold but it stinks and make you feel ill after a while.

Running a duct off the furnace to the garage is a bad idea, you will be penetrating a firewall. It may be possible to do legally, if you use a fire damper, I think code also requires it to be a least 6' off the floor, if it's still permitted. I can check the code Monday, my code book is in my work van.

The unvented heater you linked to is a better idea but without being vented you're still going to have fumes, not as bad as the salamander but still not great. Look for a vented heater, either a hanging unit or a wall mounted direct vent, you'll be happier in the long run.


Brewchief:D

gandrimp
12-14-2007, 06:48 PM
Used oil.Gets rid of your used oil, your buddies,your neighbors,etc.Just keep it clean,no water.,no sludge, .We've had one for 7 years and they work great.The one I currently have is an OMNI, the last one was a SHANIDOHA(SP).No smell No smoke.

Todd W
12-14-2007, 07:13 PM
Used oil.Gets rid of your used oil, your buddies,your neighbors,etc.Just keep it clean,no water.,no sludge, .We've had one for 7 years and they work great.The one I currently have is an OMNI, the last one was a SHANIDOHA(SP).No smell No smoke.

I'm curios how `legal` these would be to run in CA :shaking: I'd like to run one... between my diesel, jeep, buggy and quad I go through a LOT of oil and this would be cheaper than running `pane.

Here's pic of my current setup:
http://www.4x4blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/2.jpg

WILLIE
12-14-2007, 07:34 PM
I have an 80,000 btu furnace out of a house. I had to convert it to lp and currently don't have it ducted (I boxed off the top and back with the front open) but it works great. I keep it 60 all the time and warm it up to 68-70when I'm working.

yozsi
12-14-2007, 08:44 PM
i have a 45k btu high efficency ceiling mounted unit in my 3 car 1/4 insulated garage, heats it up from 0 to about 50 degrees in about 30 mins.

gandrimp
12-14-2007, 08:59 PM
I'm curios how `legal` these would be to run in CA :shaking: I'd like to run one... between my diesel, jeep, buggy and quad I go through a LOT of oil and this would be cheaper than running `pane.

Here's pic of my current setup:
http://www.4x4blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/2.jpg

Google "omni oil " then call them and talk to Richard . Tell em I sent ya.:)

nissancrawler
12-15-2007, 04:52 AM
i thiking of using our forced air home furnace and running a duct out to the garage. it all ready has a cold air return and a register vent on the floor. just gotta run a few pieces to the vent from the heat duct. helps that the furnace is next to the garage. wont keep it super warm but maybe warm enough

also thinking of one of these http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200332741_200332741

my garage is roughly 28x30 with 8 foot cielings (under the house) so the space to heat isnt that bad. ive also got a salamader that im burning diesel in if its to cold but it stinks and make you feel ill after a while.

I have both, actually. I have two vents in the garage ceiling from the furnace, and I also have a few small 2" ducts coming off that to go inside my cabinets and keep them warm (paint, glue, etc.). When I'm working in there and it's cold, I fire up the vent-free heater like you posted. Crank it to high, and with the garage at 30 or so, It'll be up to 70 in 15-20 minutes. I thought it would be a problem being in one corner of the garage, but it disperses heat relatively evenly ( 20x24 garage).

yozsi
12-15-2007, 07:56 AM
this is a pic of my set up, just to show how easy a HE furnace can be mounted.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/yozsi/house/DSCF1652.jpg

Tech Tim
12-15-2007, 08:36 AM
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We picked up a couple of Radiant heaters from a warehouse that was being remodeled into condos. Got 'em for cheap and they work damned good, you go from blowing icicles to warm pretty fast.

Radiant heat is nice because it heats up whatever you are working on, so push your tool cart under the heater for a few mins and no more cold wrenches.

indulf
12-15-2007, 09:21 AM
my shop is out back, away from the house, and a stick built structure with bare plywood floors.

i need heat out there, and i'd really like to do a wood burning stove for a few different reasons. is this a dumb idea? getting gas out there would be a next to impossible and electric is way too expensive.

PTSchram
12-15-2007, 09:41 AM
I'm curios how `legal` these would be to run in CA :shaking: I'd like to run one... between my diesel, jeep, buggy and quad I go through a LOT of oil and this would be cheaper than running `pane.

Here's pic of my current setup:
http://www.4x4blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/2.jpg

Under NFPA, your current setup is not conforming as it is forbidden under NFPA to have a propane tank inside an inhabited structure.


Used oil is great, but for me, I don't generate enough and IMO, it'll be much better to just go with LP forced air and deal with the cost. I want heat, not another engineering exercise.

Todd W
12-15-2007, 10:12 AM
Under NFPA, your current setup is not conforming as it is forbidden under NFPA to have a propane tank inside an inhabited structure.


Used oil is great, but for me, I don't generate enough and IMO, it'll be much better to just go with LP forced air and deal with the cost. I want heat, not another engineering exercise.

I'm sure that's not all.

azhayseed
12-15-2007, 09:29 PM
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We picked up a couple of Radiant heaters from a warehouse that was being remodeled into condos. Got 'em for cheap and they work damned good, you go from blowing icicles to warm pretty fast.

Radiant heat is nice because it heats up whatever you are working on, so push your tool cart under the heater for a few mins and no more cold wrenches.

I work in the HVAC business, when I was up in eastern Oregon ( cold side of the mountains!) we use to install this type of heater quite often for shops, and open manufacturing areas.. They are economical to run and most of the heat goes to the areas that are directly below them so you aren't paying to heat every thing even where you aren't working. Draw backs are: they only heat a limited area and they aren't cheap to buy. If I had to heat a shop I'd really think about getting one of these!

PDR John
12-16-2007, 07:51 AM
Electric cove. House is all electric and I really like radiant heat, choice was easy. Have yet to even notice them on our bill. Leave em on at 55 all the time turn up to 65 when working.

Shortbusdog
12-16-2007, 12:33 PM
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We have two of these at work and they work really well. They run the length of the shop
Not sure how big the shop is but its big...5 bays long

Wicked_S10
12-16-2007, 02:09 PM
Whatever you do, don't try what I did and mix filtered waste oil and kerosene in a ready heaters :D It burns it, but it wasn't happy about it!

I have a 55K BTU hanging furnace in my 24x36 shop w/ 10' side walls. Insulated with 3" styrofoam. The 55K furnace will struggle to hit 55° in bellow freezing weather. If I kick on my 55K BTU ready heater, w/o the furnace, it is shirt sleeve weather in 15 minutes. I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

Later,
Jason

brewchief
12-16-2007, 03:19 PM
I have a 55K BTU hanging furnace in my 24x36 shop w/ 10' side walls. Insulated with 3" styrofoam. The 55K furnace will struggle to hit 55° in bellow freezing weather. If I kick on my 55K BTU ready heater, w/o the furnace, it is shirt sleeve weather in 15 minutes. I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

Later,
Jason

Your hanging furnace is at best 80% efficient, 55k is the input, at best your getting 44k btu out, the rest goes up the chimmny. Your ready heater has no vent, therefore 100% of the heat it produces goes into the room, fumes and all. Depending on the fuel used to rate it and the fuel your burning you could be getting more than 55k out, differant oils have differant btu ratings per gallon.



Brewchief:D

Wicked_S10
12-16-2007, 06:37 PM
Your hanging furnace is at best 80% efficient, 55k is the input, at best your getting 44k btu out, the rest goes up the chimmny. Your ready heater has no vent, therefore 100% of the heat it produces goes into the room, fumes and all. Depending on the fuel used to rate it and the fuel your burning you could be getting more than 55k out, differant oils have differant btu ratings per gallon.

Brewchief:D

Makes sense. I burn about anything I can light with a mapp torch in the ready heater. It melted its hot surface igniter off the ceramic standoff a few years back. If it can atomize and pump it, it will normally burn it. It is in rough shape an was when I got it, so I am not real concerned about it.

Later,
Jason

Mud Slayer 2.0
12-16-2007, 07:25 PM
hey casey we use a cheapo propane heater from TSC our garage is about half yours but this thing still gets us up to 70 when left on high..
http://www.tractorsupply.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay_10551_10001_43380_-1______?rFlag=true&cFlag=1