: Formula Four Chassis Questions


waskillywabbit
12-14-2007, 12:04 PM
Not a lot of pictures available or much build info as far as wheelbase I've found other than the chassis is stretched 12". I have an 85 4Runner built from the frame down and was looking to put on the Formula Four chassis to have a family trail rig while my boys are still small, until they get rigs of their own. They are 5 and 6 now and both want to go everytime, but I only currently have room for 2 (myself included), so I'd like to get the Formula Four chassis. I have an 85 ext cab trail rig build in process but it will be a while before that one could be a donor...and it is an auto.

Anyway, will my 85 4Runner frame be too short? Extend it how much? How much will I have to stretch my wheelbase? Any other insights or experiential wisdom? Link(s) to any pertinent threads would be great as I've searched this forum and the formulatoy.org site and come up with little on the Formula Four chassis builds.

Thanks for your help.

:smokin:

mtbrjon
12-14-2007, 12:14 PM
Not a lot of pictures available or much build info as far as wheelbase I've found other than the chassis is stretched 12". I have an 85 4Runner built from the frame down and was looking to put on the Formula Four chassis to have a family trail rig while my boys are still small, until they get rigs of their own. They are 5 and 6 now and both want to go everytime, but I only currently have room for 2 (myself included), so I'd like to get the Formula Four chassis. I have an 85 ext cab trail rig build in process but it will be a while before that one could be a donor...and it is an auto.

Anyway, will my 85 4Runner frame be too short? Extend it how much? How much will I have to stretch my wheelbase? Any other insights or experiential wisdom? Link(s) to any pertinent threads would be great as I've searched this forum and the formulatoy.org site and come up with little on the Formula Four chassis builds.

Thanks for your help.

:smokin:

If you're only gonna carry little people in the back seats get the standard 2 seater with the rear seat bar option, move the drivers controls forward a little, and you should be ok unless you are much over 6'. You will be able to have a more turn-friendly wheelbase and not have to add any length to your current rig.

Lord Orange
12-14-2007, 12:22 PM
I am doing a 2 seater f-toy with a 4runner/shortbed frame, running chevy's out the rear, without a giant shackle. I am 6'4, if I was going to carry 4 people I would have no room for cargo.

waskillywabbit
12-14-2007, 02:39 PM
Thanks for the input.

I am 6' 2" tall but short legs and long torso so the standard chassis might work then. I do not need a lot of cargo room either other than a few things. I imagine I can fab up some storage compartments or tabs to secure and store whaveter I need.

Anyone else?

:smokin:

MT4Runner
12-14-2007, 02:45 PM
I've got two girls, 6yo and 4yo. I'm building the standard chassis. When they're too big to fit in the back seat, they can drive the FToy!!!! :D

noahfecks
12-14-2007, 09:23 PM
The wheel base on the four seater chassis is 112"-115". How long do you plan to keep the rig for the use of your family, kids grow fast, the extra space is better to have and not need than need and not have. I had to extend the wheelbase of a shortbed frame about 8", if your not planning to compete it might not be neccessary to extend your frame at all. F-toy F002.

waskillywabbit
12-14-2007, 09:35 PM
No plans to compete...just want a vehicle we can go wheeling in as a family as since both the boys love it...the wife can't help but try it...at least once. :D I do have the 85 ext cab that will be trail worthy in a couple months, so I might just go with the standard chassis for now, put in the rear bench seat and then when they get older/bigger...we'll take both rigs...and with two boys I imagine three rigs eventually. Glad I got an F350 tow rig. :flipoff2:

:smokin:

mtbrjon
12-15-2007, 05:55 AM
No plans to compete...just want a vehicle we can go wheeling in as a family as since both the boys love it...the wife can't help but try it...at least once. :D I do have the 85 ext cab that will be trail worthy in a couple months, so I might just go with the standard chassis for now, put in the rear bench seat and then when they get older/bigger...we'll take both rigs...and with two boys I imagine three rigs eventually. Glad I got an F350 tow rig. :flipoff2:

:smokin:

I know what you mean. I'm shopping for a bigger enclosed trailer right now.........


Maybe a big rig with a converted moving van trailer. Haul 3 rigs and all our stuff and still have room for bathroom and bunks!! Give us a couple years.

Albuquerque Jim
12-17-2007, 09:48 AM
Hey Brian,

Glad you made it here...personally I think the regular chassis will be sufficient, that's what I'm using for my build and I am planning a removable rear bench.

Good luck with your decision and build.

waskillywabbit
12-17-2007, 10:40 AM
Thanks guys for the input. I think I'll stick w/ the standard chassis to save myself some headaches.

Anyone have an email address for John in Memphis, TN that build the chassis? I've called several times and can't get a return call. :D

:smokin:

SanDiegoCJ
12-17-2007, 10:49 AM
Thanks guys for the input. I think I'll stick w/ the standard chassis to save myself some headaches.

Anyone have an email address for John in Memphis, TN that build the chassis? I've called several times and can't get a return call. :D

:smokin:

I believe you have to contact Mike Hendricks and put a deposit down and he
will contact the guy in Memphis.
Or he could give you the guys email addy.

http://hendrixmotorsports.com/_wsn/page4.html

MT4Runner
12-17-2007, 10:59 AM
Maybe a big rig with a converted moving van trailer. Haul 3 rigs and all our stuff and still have room for bathroom and bunks!! Give us a couple years.

I'm looking forward to that build thread!!! :laughing:

We worked a BFG pit for the Baja 1000. The guys from Jackson Dawson Motorsports, who pit for BFG annually have some insanely cool toy hauler/race trailers...which are structurally a lot like moving vans. Some of the cool features:

Bunks in the "loft"
Kitchenette ahead of work area--so you're never driving through it, and you can access it through a side door for snacks while you're on the road
Work benches on either side of the main vehicle area. Ramps extend from the ground, up through workbench. While en route, the car sits on the diamond plate "workbench". It would also double as a very cool mechanics pit. When you're at the event, it's a workbench again
Air outlets spaced every 8' along the side of the trailer for air tools, plumbed into the air system on the truck/trailer.
Lights everywhere--lots on the side for "pit" action
Generator runs off the diesel motor (if you're running a big pit, you can justify running the diesel for lights and air)
Some sort of a fuel can lift would be great so you could dump gas into the car. Otherwise, a transfer pump would probably be fast enough--build a tank into one of the lower storage compartments
One of the toter-homes had a fold-down side panel where we watched the Chargers game and the end of the NASCAR race.
A gas-powered welder would also be a great backup power supply, as well as serving its obvious purpose


A guy can dream, right?! Too bad you don't live closer, I'd help build it!

waskillywabbit
12-17-2007, 11:04 AM
I believe you have to contact Mike Hendricks and put a deposit down and he
will contact the guy in Memphis.
Or he could give you the guys email addy.

http://hendrixmotorsports.com/_wsn/page4.html

Thanks for the tip. I will try that route and see if I can find out the process.

Thanks again.

:smokin:

SanDiegoCJ
12-17-2007, 11:19 AM
I'm looking forward to that build thread!!! :laughing:

We worked a BFG pit for the Baja 1000. The guys from Jackson Dawson Motorsports, who pit for BFG annually have some insanely cool toy hauler/race trailers...which are structurally a lot like moving vans. Some of the cool features:

Bunks in the "loft"
Kitchenette ahead of work area--so you're never driving through it, and you can access it through a side door for snacks while you're on the road
Work benches on either side of the main vehicle area. Ramps extend from the ground, up through workbench. While en route, the car sits on the diamond plate "workbench". It would also double as a very cool mechanics pit. When you're at the event, it's a workbench again
Air outlets spaced every 8' along the side of the trailer for air tools, plumbed into the air system on the truck/trailer.
Lights everywhere--lots on the side for "pit" action
Generator runs off the diesel motor (if you're running a big pit, you can justify running the diesel for lights and air)
Some sort of a fuel can lift would be great so you could dump gas into the car. Otherwise, a transfer pump would probably be fast enough--build a tank into one of the lower storage compartments
One of the toter-homes had a fold-down side panel where we watched the Chargers game and the end of the NASCAR race.
A gas-powered welder would also be a great backup power supply, as well as serving its obvious purpose


A guy can dream, right?! Too bad you don't live closer, I'd help build it!



You can get a trailer like that from Renegade. (Kibbi LLC)

http://www.kibbi.com/photos.aspx?section=trailerstransporter

waskillywabbit
12-18-2007, 04:16 PM
With the holiday season I finally got a hold of Jon and got a lot of good 411. I will be putting a deposit on a standard chassis Ftoy shortly...as fast as the USPS works. :D

Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions Jon. I hope to get the time soon to go through your build up thread.

Thanks again.

:smokin: