: wanna add some big shafts to your lt-230?


fcfred
06-27-2002, 06:19 PM
1410 Oh yeah!

fcfred
06-27-2002, 06:20 PM
hmmm

fcfred
06-27-2002, 06:22 PM
will it fit up front?

fcfred
06-27-2002, 06:23 PM
yep

fcfred
06-27-2002, 06:26 PM
close up

fcfred
06-27-2002, 06:27 PM
too bad it looks like I'll need a cv:(
guess I'll call jess and get the 1350

fcfred
06-27-2002, 06:28 PM
at least the eaton and 60 are ready for 1410's

road1will
06-27-2002, 06:30 PM
kick ass, how much for the adapters and where?

fcfred
06-27-2002, 06:32 PM
how much?
about $30 in materials
and a few hours on the lathe
where
in the shop:D

fcfred
06-27-2002, 06:33 PM
actually the front output is off a stock t-case I found, and just re-drill to spec

RockRover
06-27-2002, 09:04 PM
Bitchen' bad-assed bro...Timely too. I'm ready to order a couple of shafts in the next 2-3 weeks, and I was considering the 1410 in the rear...But with my compound angle I've got to go 1350 CV...I am going to send Jess a front/rear output flange so he can pattern the addapter off of it...He's very interested in doing the Rover stuff now that he know's there is some interest.

Now to figure out if a 1350's gonna' clear in the front...Hmmmmm. Might have to go with a 2" tube.

L8r, and keep us posted!

--D

fcfred
06-27-2002, 09:11 PM
what tranny are you running rock?

Strange Rover
06-28-2002, 06:11 AM
What tranny are you running fcfred?

Sam

Strange Rover
06-28-2002, 06:15 AM
Doug,

Are you going to run a double double carden in the rear. Or a double carden at the transfer end and a normal uni at the diff.

I still think you should run a normal rear DS (one with a single uni at each end)

Sam

Strange Rover
06-28-2002, 06:21 AM
Originally posted by fcfred
too bad it looks like I'll need a cv:(
guess I'll call jess and get the 1350

fcfred, why do you think you need a cv for that. It looks good to me. Connect the two unis together and the angles look almost identical. Should be fine IMO. If you run a double carden at the transfer then you will have to lower your rear pinion cause it looks like its pointing a bit high.

But then again I probably wouldnt know :flipoff2: Im the mad prick that thinks theres nothing wrong with running a centered diff and a offset transfer with a stock DS.

:flipoff2:

Sam

RockRover
06-28-2002, 06:41 AM
Originally posted by fcfred
what tranny are you running rock?

Crazy, Still running the ZF...Phase II will be a motor/tranny swap. My way of thinking is that even though I'm running a puny 160hp, I will eventually run 350+ hp...So I'm gonna' build her big, and once.

Sam, I spoke with Jess about this very thing in depth...His feelings are that with the compound angle I have (with the lift) that a CV is required. He feels that the slight vibration I'll have out of one out of phase u-joint is going to be negligible considering the speed's I'll be seeing....Hell with the 42's and the fact that I'll be concentrating so hard keeping her on the road with full-hydro, a little vibration will be the last thing on my mind! :rasta:

Strange Rover
06-28-2002, 02:49 PM
Doug,
So you will have the double carden at the transfer and the single (out of phase at the diff). Yep and I can see what you mean - you run the rear straight (in horizontal) and let the double carden handle the bad angle from the lift and in the verticle plane the single rear uni will just have to live with it. How long is the rear DS gonna be?

Sam

fcfred
06-28-2002, 03:30 PM
I'm running the sm-420. I do not yet have the axle set correctly, but it will most likely be lower than shown in the pic. What I have set up there was similar to the angle in the front of a range rover, but I don't think it will work out as I planned, though I'm not set on anything yet.

RockRover
06-28-2002, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by Strange Rover
Doug,
So you will have the double carden at the transfer and the single (out of phase at the diff). Yep and I can see what you mean - you run the rear straight (in horizontal) and let the double carden handle the bad angle from the lift and in the verticle plane the single rear uni will just have to live with it. How long is the rear DS gonna be?

Sam

Geez man! Who do you think I am? Do you actually think I would plan something like drive-lines in advance?

Actually, if I remember correctly, the rear will be 37.5-38"'s....Oh, and the pinion will be pointed at the t-case output...Just as if it had no compound angle...The only angle will be the 11deg of compound.

--D

Strange Rover
06-28-2002, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by fcfred
I'm running the sm-420. I do not yet have the axle set correctly, but it will most likely be lower than shown in the pic. What I have set up there was similar to the angle in the front of a range rover, but I don't think it will work out as I planned, though I'm not set on anything yet.

Next question - how did you adapt the sm-420 to the lt230. Did you get a spud shaft or did the output shaft fit or something else?? Im interested cause im adapting an np435 to the transfer part of an LT95 and my plan at the moment is to cut the output shaft of the np435 and weld on the lt95 gearbox output shaft. (the lt95 shaft is a fair bit bigger than the np435 and about twice as big as what goes into the lt230)

Sam

evilfij
06-28-2002, 09:04 PM
I would once again like to point out the beauty of the volvo axle swap, what was that? CV where, 1410, out of phase, how long does that need to be, do I need a double double cv with 5in lift


Fawk no!


Ron "bolt on king :flipoff2:"

Strange Rover
06-28-2002, 09:22 PM
What do you mean "bolt on king"

Fawk no - im way ahead of ya.

When I put the 460 in my F250 I had to move the grearbox forward to give the motor clearance on the fire wall and the rear DS wanted to fall apart. Did I get e new DS - hell no I just moved the rear axle forward a couple of inches. :flipoff2:

I swaped in the scout II d44s with a rear centred and front sort of in the right place and my bloody driveshafts still bolted on - didnt even throw in new unis. But then again I did have to weld some shiat on the axle tubes before I bolted them on.

Nah, you win. Your the "Bolt on King". Better put it in your signature.

:flipoff2:

Sam

fcfred
01-18-2006, 08:40 PM
hmm, times have chenged and I'm considering unloading these parts of my project. anyone interested?
sm-420, rebuilt and clearanced for front 1410 u-joint shaft
lt-230, rebuilt with a part time conversion kit.
plus the adapter between the two.

i really should finish this, but I think I want to do something different with the CJ-10, especially since it's way out dated

i have not come up with a price for this, but is you are interested pm me and I'll come up with an estimate

DiscoDino
01-18-2006, 09:51 PM
I like this thread...

But I was in the train of thought of sticking to the stock units as a fuse / weak link (~200hp, 4.88s, 4.9 Low from MD, 42" IROKs in the process, Disco truggy)...

I also read in one of these magazines about sheer bolts as a safety item - any thoughts there?

ROVER JUNKIE
01-19-2006, 12:15 PM
pm sent to you fcfred

Puffdragon
01-19-2006, 04:49 PM
Ben Tanner had Jesse at high angle make 1410 shafts a long time ago. THe rear woul dhave worked, but hte front was to big to fit the Auto. The double cardan would be basically in the oil pan of the tranny and half way through the crossmember

Leafsprung
01-22-2006, 09:36 PM
whats up with this?

fcfred
01-24-2006, 09:38 PM
sorry folks been buried, and didn't get a chance to look at the stuff much less come up with a price. I know I'm not supposed to fish like this so I guess I better get a price. Since I've gotten some responses I'll offer it at $1000, (not really sure if that's crazy or cheap) so let me know, make an offer, etc. oh and by the way, this is all in southern california so if you want it shipped then figure that in as well.

one last thing, i wont be able to mess with it till after the first of feb. thanks amigos

let me know

also that price includes the flanges on the front and back of the lt-230