: D60 front brake question
heapxj 12-23-2007, 10:25 PM HI, I asked this over on NAXJA and was kinda running around in circles. I have a '79 f350 D60 front axle under my XJ now and I really do not like the brake setup that it came with. I know on newer axles, the caliper is held in by two pins and the caliper is one piece. My question is this, Will the newer D60 brake stuff work on my axle? I mean if I go get an 80's set of brake caliper brackets and calipers, will they work with my current rotors? ie will everything fit in the same spot as my old caliper brackets and calipers? Thanks in advance.
RJR99SS 12-23-2007, 11:17 PM I'd like to know as well....
Panthers65 12-23-2007, 11:37 PM if you have a slide on knuckle that holds the cailper on with pins, thats the way you've gotta stay. If you have the large holes and the caliper bolts to the knuckle, gotta stay with that. besides doing some swapping of knuckles to fit the new calipers ( almost identical dual piston, ect..) the only other thing is a kit similar to the dynatrac kit that has a caliper bracket that bolts between the spindle and knuckle, this will let you run a smaller single piston caliper.
btw my 96 axle was held on by bolts and was very simple...
heapxj 12-24-2007, 12:32 AM Yeah I understand that one style caliper must go with it's style caliper bracket. However the '79 calipers are nowhere near as simple as your '96. The old ones are two piece for starters and have a bunch of shims and bolts and crap to go along with it. I'm just looking for a simpler way to go.
TroyM 12-24-2007, 02:04 AM keep it the way it is
problem solved
nothin wrong with those brakes
heapxj 12-24-2007, 03:18 AM Yeah that's what I'd like to do but I'm missing a bunch of the parts which is why this is such a PITA. It's also why I'm looking into the newer hardware as another option. If only there was someone who went through this already that could tell me if it will work, it would be a great christmas present :)
TroyM 12-24-2007, 03:27 AM if you buy rebuilt calipers it will come with a kit that has new shim, shim spring and the other spring that clips into the caliper to hold the pads from bouncing around and a tapered bolt.:grinpimp:
at least mine did anyway
heapxj 12-24-2007, 04:14 AM oh that's good news thanks
JGVABronco78 12-24-2007, 07:07 AM I believe you could divide the Ford D60's in three groups, all of which have different brakes. The 78/79 uses the slide in, single retainer boted in type. The 86 to 91 type use a similar slide in type but with a top and bottom pin for retainers and no bolt. The type you would like are the 92 and up ball-jointed front ends and they simply would not work. You could swap knuckles and brackets and go between the earlier two, but that wouldn't really gain you anything.
There's always a conversion kit for sale on ebay that gives you a bracket and K-20/30 rotors and calipers, and you can run 15" wheels on them. The GM caliper mount is about as simple as it gets. You may need to run 9/16" studs and ream your hub flange out because that's what the GM rotors use. I did the conversion on the rear and didn't have to because the body of the stud just did grab the whole i.d. of the stud hole in the rotor. I here its not the same on the front. Fords studs are different between front and rear 60's. I found out the hard way. I had to sort through a pile of 64 of them seperating them back out to front and rear. The shoulders are different thicknesses.
IROK Cherokee 12-24-2007, 02:35 PM HI, I asked this over on NAXJA and was kinda running around in circles. I have a '79 f350 D60 front axle under my XJ now and I really do not like the brake setup that it came with. I know on newer axles, the caliper is held in by two pins and the caliper is one piece. My question is this, Will the newer D60 brake stuff work on my axle? I mean if I go get an 80's set of brake caliper brackets and calipers, will they work with my current rotors? ie will everything fit in the same spot as my old caliper brackets and calipers? Thanks in advance.
Yes you can swap the older stuff for the newer (85-91) calapers and brakets. You have to lose the dust shield but I think you wont mind. One question, what is wrong with the brake you have now?
RJR99SS 12-24-2007, 03:11 PM Yes you can swap the older stuff for the newer (85-91) calapers and brakets. You have to lose the dust shield but I think you wont mind. One question, what is wrong with the brake you have now?
Personally i think they're kind of a pain in the ass to tear down....
heapxj 12-25-2007, 07:18 AM Yes you can swap the older stuff for the newer (85-91) calapers and brakets. You have to lose the dust shield but I think you wont mind. One question, what is wrong with the brake you have now?
The brakes are fine I'm sure but I need to track down some missing parts which is why I asked if the newer one piece simple as hell brakes would work, you know for ease of installation, maintainence, etc. It seems to be more of a hassle to track down the newer stuff than find what I'm missing at this point. I'm probably gonna go with what it came with and give up on this swap idea.
u2slow 12-25-2007, 05:44 PM I believe you could divide the Ford D60's in three groups, all of which have different brakes. The 78/79 uses the slide in, single retainer boted in type. The 86 to 94 type use a similar slide in type but with a top and bottom pin for retainers and no bolt. The type you would like are the 95 and up ball-jointed front ends and they simply would not work. You could swap knuckles and brackets and go between the earlier two, but that wouldn't really gain you anything.
The balljoint 92-97 D60s came with 2 different knuckles. 92-94 take the same brakes as the KP style (separate bracket). 95-97 have the 2 big ears that you bolt the caliper assembly to. Just throwing some trivia out there. :D
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