..Officially settled in its spot yesterday to begin work. Maybe I'm pulling the trigger a little too early, but the shop is slow this time of year, so hopefully I'll start making headway on it.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/Trooper/trooper001-2.jpg


This week I'd like to get a few goals accomplished, nothing major.

-IFS completely removed
-Rear axle completely removed
-New GT28 ballbearing turbo installed


Once the axles are out, I'll have to slide my 1ton outers on the front 44 real quick, and then start mocking them under the rig. As well, I'll need to figure out what leafs I need all at the same time... also it would be nice to have 38's or 39's around to help mock, but i wont have the money for those for a little while.

I guess i need a little more info on it!

I'll be going waggy d44 front and d60 rear. the rear is a matching width, old model ford SRW. i haven't cracked it yet, but i hope its NOT the course spline axle.. eitherway, my 100lb/ft of torque isn't going to bother it. Either 5.13 or 5.38, locked F&R. hopefully cut to fit 38.5's at an acceptable height.

I am leaning tward waggy springs, but have heard YJ springs might do the job... i'll have to search around here some more before I make a decision or if anyone else has some insight, that would be really appriciated.



my inspiration!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/uhwar1.jpg

38.5's are going to put the hurt on that 44:nuke:
________
Zx14 Vs Hayabusa (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Which_bike_is_quicker_kawasaki_zx_-14_or_suzuki_hayabusa)

I hope not!!! For now, its a cheap option that I can fit some good parts in later if i have to. I just hope the motor doesnt have enough stuff to twist it apart!

My buddy had one in the front of his Samurai. Stock carb'd motor (60hp on its best day) with 37's and couldn't keep a ring and pinion alive for more than a year at a time. Now grant it, he drives like a complete idiot... but you're working with more torque and more tire. Please keep us up to date on the build. Sounds cool!:smokin:
________
Chf50P (http://www.honda-wiki.org/wiki/Honda_CHF50P)

I think it will hold up fine with some good shafts and joints. what are you going to do about low range? IIRC, yours is at about 1.87:1 or something. If you don't plan on adding a second case, I'd go with 5.89's in the axles. To extend their life expectancy, have the ring and pinion cryo'ed and maybe consider having the fronts heat treated too if you don't plan to drive around on the street in 4wd a lot.

good looking rig, I'm anxious to see how it goes :smokin:

I will be daily driving the rig. As far as cyrogenically treating parts and heat treating, Im going to leave it alone until I have a problem... or until i can get the money together for good parts. I ran 37's on my ZJ for a while with a HP30 front, locked and 4.88's. it held up fine with only a few ujoints going out.

The tcase I haven't thought about that much, I do remember now it has that crappy range. doubling cases is something i havn't done before and would definitly need my hand held as i went through it. I'll need to research that aspect a little since I would really like to do that. I'd be worried it wouldnt be so street friendly with the 5.89s.

I doubt it will ever be "street friendly" w/ double digit hp on 38's. the 5.89's would put you right about back to stock as far as gear ratio to tire size. since you will be pushing more wind with it up in the air, you'll want as much help as you can get.

there was a dude on here Airtrooper--he had an old diesel that he pepped up and did a SAS. There were a few threads about him trying to get a nissan divorced case behind the stocker to improve offroad performance.

I've been talking to SSSRodeo on here about a doubler.. seems like the best way to go to get the gearing down.

I am going to run a bigger turbo and try to fuel it up anyway I can. Hopefuly it will see some major improvments over stock

Jason, Let me make a suggestion on your engine if your going to up the boost on it. Pull the pan and look at the rods. If they look like they are made from bridge struts then go ahead. The 2.2 came with 3 different strength of rods. Somewhere around here we have posted up some pictures of them showing the differences.
The smaller ones are called 1.0's. Stock, they were used in the non turboed Pup's mostly. The stock rods will let go if the engine over revved. (This is why it's not a good idea to turbo a non turbo Pup diesel.)
Then the middle size ones are called 1.5's, a better option than the stock ones. The rods are the achillies heal of the this motor.
The 2.0 rods are the best because they are twice as strong as the stock rods. They will look like Japan cut up some old bridge beams to make them. They are real beefy.

My 2 2 has the 1.5's. One of these days I'll get around to putting in the 2.0's I picked up 2 years ago.


Just came in from the shop and thought I'd cruise the Forums before I called it a day.

Curtis

Thanks for chimin in man. When I get all the goblety goop out of the front end, i'll try dropping the pan real quick to peep it out. i'll take pics of course.

I didnt get a chance to tear into it yet, i got caught up with finishing the vortech kit on my honda s2000

http://thumbs.vidiac.com/cbf4ce3e-e780-4a78-a944-9a140010214d.jpg (http://videos.pittspeed.com/video/cbf4ce3e-e780-4a78-a944-9a140010214d.htm)Click here to see Video (http://videos.pittspeed.com/video/cbf4ce3e-e780-4a78-a944-9a140010214d.htm)

my inspiration!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/uhwar1.jpg



huh...........interesting............ :flipoff2:

Thanks for chimin in man. When I get all the goblety goop out of the front end, i'll try dropping the pan real quick to peep it out. i'll take pics of course.

I didnt get a chance to tear into it yet, i got caught up with finishing the vortech kit on my honda s2000

http://thumbs.vidiac.com/cbf4ce3e-e780-4a78-a944-9a140010214d.jpg (http://videos.pittspeed.com/video/cbf4ce3e-e780-4a78-a944-9a140010214d.htm)Click here to see Video (http://videos.pittspeed.com/video/cbf4ce3e-e780-4a78-a944-9a140010214d.htm)

Sure looks a lot faster than my latest project.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c369/Curtis-J/89%20I%20Mark/DSC00432.jpg

ere's the video of the engine running.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c369/Curtis-J/89%20I%20Mark/th_MOV00428.jpg (http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c369/Curtis-J/89%20I%20Mark/?action=view&current=MOV00428.flv)
It lives! My remote start is still hooked up for the video.
Just a few loose ends and then time to register it for the street.

Yea!


Curtis

In case the other link doesn't work....
http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c369/Curtis-J/89%20I%20Mark/?action=view&current=MOV00428.flv

man, that has WAY more cool factor than my s2k!!

man, that has WAY more cool factor than my s2k!!

Shoot man! Mine is only a 1.5 liter 90 hp Turbo Diesel with a 5 speed.
It came with a 3 speed automatic, but since I am after MPG's I decided to mate it to a stock I Mark 5 speed. It was a fairly easy conversion as far as my conversions go. I usually get way over my head on most of them. That's why the Wife and I named my buisness Ridiculous Equipment.:laughing:

The funny part is the I Mark originally had a 1.6 liter DOHC that put out about 140 horses. You see the dried mud on the front tires? That is from me doing donuts in the back pasture before I pullled the old engine out of it. Talk about fun!!! My step son was riding with me and thought I had lost my mind for sure. Think I'll take that DOHC and save it for a Sand Buggy for the wife. May even put the TD Automatic behind it.:smokin: (She sucks with a clutch)

The old 89 I Mark won't win any awards for ET's but it will (or should) cruise at 70 MPH all day at somewhere between 45 and 50 MPG. My Kawasaki Motorcycle doensn't even do that good.

I have a lot of project lined up and now that this one is almost finished it time to knock out a few more. Like the Wifes 300 HP 2.3 Liter Turbo Gas 4WD 89 Trooper. I've got all the parts, it's just a matter of puttting them all together. Engine has been built for three years now.

One of my future projects will be a 3 cylinder TD 6 speed Motorcycle. Should see around 100 mpg out of that one.

I know someone is going to ask for details on the I Mark, so read above, I just spelled them out for you.

Talk to ya'll later!

Curtis

so Gearhead313, what doubler system are you planning?

If I have this right, the 2nd tcase will come from an early 90's automatic trooper. It will match input to output, so all that needs done is mounting, drive shafts and shifters.

Im still not sure exactly which case i'll need.. ive been trying to find a code or some sort to go by. having the option code "6NZ" is seeming to matter, but im not positive yet.

I'm not familiar with Isuzu Tcases, but your saying the input on the case your looking for will match spline count and diameter of the output on the case you have now, so all's you'll need is a coupler, some sort of way to hold them together, driveshafts, and shift linkage? will you need to get rid of the front output on the original Tcase?

Thats correct, as far as I understand. The auto 90's trooper tcase will slide right onto the back of the stock 86 tcase. The rest you are correct as well.

As far as the front output, it is removable, so you have the option of removing it and making a cover, but i was told that you only need to cut off as much as you need off the output and weld up a cover there. I assume less to deal with such as leaks, etc.

i've got an '89 RS 2.6/5spd. would this use the same Tcase as your '86?

I dont know about that for sure...

i've got an '89 RS 2.6/5spd. would this use the same Tcase as your '86?

NO, Sorry but your MUA5 is different than the 86 tranny.
Your front output is an integeral part of the "T" case.
His output will unbolt off the side of the transmission liike a PTO.

Curtis

Thanks SSSRodeo. K, I'm done hijacking this thread (until next time, I get excited), sorry and carry on with the build.

haha no problem, its the way we all learn :)



Got a little teardown under the belt today:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/Trooper/trooperaxles001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/Trooper/trooperaxles002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/Trooper/trooperaxles004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/Trooper/trooperaxles006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/Trooper/trooperaxles008.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/Trooper/trooperaxles009.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/Trooper/trooperaxles010.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/Trooper/trooperaxles011.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/Trooper/trooperaxles012.jpg



real soon im going to need my tires and leafs here to start mockup!!

approx new turbo location. going to make a custom tubular header.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/1011071729.jpg

38.5's are here... now some fun can begin!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/Trooper/troopertires003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/Trooper/troopertires004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/Trooper/troopertires005.jpg

Nice ride height :D

I like how the project is coming along. I always wanted to build a diesel 'zu

lol most people probably couldn't say they tuck 38.5's :P

looking cool.............more pics

hopefully this weekend i can clean up the rest of the front frame horns, swap the d44 outer for my 1tons and roll the axles under and measure for leafs, etc.

Worked a little today.. rose more questions, which is still good.

pics:

before
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/Trooper/trooperprogress001.jpg


after
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/Trooper/trooperprogress002.jpg


this is the trooper actually sitting with its weight on the stock leafs
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/Trooper/trooperprogress003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/Trooper/trooperprogress004.jpg



It sucks, i can ALMOST use the stock leafs. The biggest problem is centering pin location. I'll need something longer to set the wheelbase, which I figured I'd be doing anyways. Now all i have to do is find a front length leaf that measures about 23.5-24" to put the rear where I need it, so let the searching begin. Hopefully as well a flatter spring will lower it down b/c the height seems a little high for COG purposes.

24" leaf springs......that is rediculously short :shaking:

we use Waggoneer, YJ, and Toyota Mini truck leaves up front

the waggy's are aound 42"+ w/ an offset pin....helpful for placment issues....as you can run them in either direction.

the YJ's are super soft, w/ centered pin.......so no advantage as far as axle placement.............the Toy mini truck are also cool, but a little shorter.

You're already doing a SAS... get some 56" Chevy springs and make new mounts at the rear to make them work for your desired wheelbase. Going through all of this work, then ending up with super short leaves that don't flex just to utilize the stock mounting locations is crazy.
________
Avandia recall (http://classactionsettlements.org/)

Are you able to use the stock spring perches on that 14-bolt? I had to replace mine, and I used some from Ruff Stuff that had multiple holes for the center pin to let you tweak the axle location.

Maybe I worded it wrong. If I use the stock front leaf spring frame mount, then I need 24" straight back from the front frame mount to the center pin of the new leaf. What the total length is I am not worried about since I have plenty of frame.

Going by these (http://www.4x4spot.com/misc__spring_information.htm) measurements, The front waggys should work best based on measurement

If I keep the frame mount spring locations, then I'll have to move the axle perches in about 2". I would rather do that than outboard the mounts, even though it will take a little stability away from it.

H1 8bolt beadlocks are here. Now just have to order up some plastic inserts.


Also figured i would try and mock up this front mount intercooler i had just for the heck of it. Its a big one, but turned out to fit amazingly good!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/Trooper/troopercooler008.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/Trooper/troopercooler006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/Trooper/troopercooler004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/Trooper/troopercooler001.jpg

damb intercooler looks factory, is that from a dodge? IIRC, you're running a waggy 44 front and a 14bFF, but what's the 14 out of? Looking real nice.

The intercooler is just an aftermarket piece i had on one of my other cars.


the front is a waggy 44 with 8lug 1ton outers, but the rear is a 64" wide D60 from an old ford (i cant remember what year..)

Intercooler fits :smokin: that should make some of the ricers jealous:D

Looking good,is the diesel going to be hotrodded?

I'm sorry, but I'm confused!

Are you still planning on using the C223 2.2 liter Turbo Diesel with that big intercooler? I read back over from the start again to see if I missed the announcement of a different power plant. Did I miss something?
And that with those axles and monster tires?
And you plan on this being your daily driver??????
I'm so confused!!!!!!!
I have "Air Trooper in my possesion and it's on 37's with a dana 44 front Corp 12 rear running 488's, and it's a dog on the street. Even worse on the trails.
It has the 1.5 rods in it and I wouldn't dare turn up the juice on it for fear of sending the crank to the ground.

Just wanting to make sure I'm following you right.

A 4BT would be a killer in that truck. But that would mean you'd need a different tranny.
With that then 200 to 300 horses is not out of the real of possibilities with the Cummins.



Curtis

I'm sorry, but I'm confused!

Are you still planning on using the C223 2.2 liter Turbo Diesel with that big intercooler? I read back over from the start again to see if I missed the announcement of a different power plant. Did I miss something?

yep, the cooler the air the better.. keeping the c223


And that with those axles and monster tires?

yep


And you plan on this being your daily driver??????

hell yes



I'm so confused!!!!!!!
I have "Air Trooper in my possesion and it's on 37's with a dana 44 front Corp 12 rear running 488's, and it's a dog on the street. Even worse on the trails.
It has the 1.5 rods in it and I wouldn't dare turn up the juice on it for fear of sending the crank to the ground.

Just wanting to make sure I'm following you right.

A 4BT would be a killer in that truck. But that would mean you'd need a different tranny.
With that then 200 to 300 horses is not out of the real of possibilities with the Cummins.

Curtis

I predict is going to be a little slow, but im not affraid to turn up the juice. I'll be monitoring boost, egt, and mixture very closely in the end when this is done. Considering the turbo im running, i think it will make some signifigant hp and tq.. and i havent seen any failures to make me not do it!

Intercooler fits :smokin: that should make some of the ricers jealous:D

Looking good,is the diesel going to be hotrodded?

im going to do the best i can to hotrod it out!

im going to do the best i can to hotrod it out!


Do you have a spare engine block?

Best of Luck. Let us know how it goes.

Curtis

spare engine block? dont scare me like that......!

I'm sure with my luck, i'll have some sort of catastrophic event... i'll try to get it on video :P

spare engine block? dont scare me like that......!

I'm sure with my luck, i'll have some sort of catastrophic event... i'll try to get it on video :P

:laughing::laughing::laughing:

I'm rooting for you!

Video of the (cough) event would be nice.:smokin:

I have a spare block for my project and I don't even plan on doing any hot rodding to my running engine.

I guess I'm a little bit paranoid......

Best of luck there.


Curtis

I know where a TD 86/87 troops at,they will sell whole truck but not parts:shaking: I wanted the grill and tranny/t-case.

so how does someone aquire such information??? I wouldnt mind starting a little turbo/d junkyard :D

the front is a waggy 44 with 8lug 1ton outers, but .......

:cough: :cough: ........ that would be 3/4 ton ..................... just correcting the tech :D

oh whatever, slut.

:flipoff2: