: Military M16 Supplier


Diesel Smoke
12-30-2007, 02:55 AM
Sorry, I don't really know if the AR-15 the military is using is still called the M-16 or has it picked up another designation. Anyway, a good friend of mine and I were talking AR. He tends to get all starry eyed over Colts, which I think isn't warrented. The other day he told me Colt was the sole supplier of M-16's to the use military, or something along those lines. I am pretty much sure he is wrong and if memory serves, both DPMS and FNH supply the military. So in a effort to find the answer, I found an article from the New York Time from 1988 about the US military dropping Colt as their supplier and awarding the contract to FNH. I never found a list, which is what I am looking for. Does one even exsist?

This all started because he bought a Bushmaster and shortly their after the lead fire arms instructor for the county he's a reserve deputy for talked the Colts up, over the Bushmaster. His has never failed him and we've shot some pretty crappy ammo out of it.

BumpyDodge
12-30-2007, 09:00 AM
We had M16's made by several different manufacturers, not just Colt. Some outfit in Cocoa Beach Fl made a lot of them - forgot the name. All our M4's were Colt stamped, but that may have just been a coincidence because they came from the same order.

Hef
12-30-2007, 09:40 AM
M4's are made by Colt. FN Herstal is the primary supplier of M16's, as well as M249's.

aloharover
12-30-2007, 10:01 AM
For the Army-correct, all M4s are from Colt.
Each branch has it's own purchasing

M16, M16A1, M16A2, M16A3 all come from a variety of manufacturers. None of which are DPMS, Bushmaster.
FN and Colt made all of the A2s I ever saw.

paragon
12-30-2007, 10:22 AM
you can find some history here:

http://www.thegunzone.com/556dw-1.html

PONY_DRIVER
12-30-2007, 11:02 AM
Just because it's made for the military doesn't always mean it's the best either. Tell that buddy of yours to go choke on a Cult, err Colt. Decent guns, not worth the hype.

Diesel Smoke
12-30-2007, 11:38 AM
Just because it's made for the military doesn't always mean it's the best either. Tell that buddy of yours to go choke on a Cult, err Colt. Decent guns, not worth the hype.

Yup, already brought it up. Right now it's just to satisfy my own curiosity and try to educate myself more.

Hef
12-30-2007, 11:43 AM
Just because it's made for the military doesn't always mean it's the best either. Tell that buddy of yours to go choke on a Cult, err Colt. Decent guns, not worth the hype.


Yes sir. Generally, the winner is the lowest bidder that meets spec.

BumpyDodge
12-30-2007, 12:24 PM
Yes sir. Generally, the winner is the lowest bidder that meets spec.

Dumb trivia - an M9 Beretta costs Uncle Sam more than a Colt M16.

kwrangln
12-30-2007, 12:48 PM
Dumb trivia - an M9 Beretta costs Uncle Sam more than a Colt M16.


Which is only around the $100 mark last I heard. Didn't verify it tho, so maybe Guns was full of shit, dunno.

PONY_DRIVER
12-30-2007, 01:17 PM
Nah an M-16 is only a couple hundred bucks, approximately $400-$450 per copy.

Hef
12-30-2007, 01:53 PM
Nah an M-16 is only a couple hundred bucks, approximately $400-$450 per copy.


I saw that same figure on a GAO report.

Aces'n'8s
12-30-2007, 02:12 PM
M4's are made by Colt. FN Herstal is the primary supplier of M16's, as well as M249's.

Don't forget the 240s.....:p

misterfubar
12-30-2007, 02:15 PM
I'm not going to go through our arms room to verify, but as far as I know every one of our M4's and M16's are colts. I don't remember seeing any others.

misterfubar
12-30-2007, 02:20 PM
Don't forget the 240s.....:p

It was a happy day when the truck showed up with crates of M240D's. :grinpimp: I never really liked the M60.
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2345/m240daj4.gif

f0cker
12-30-2007, 04:37 PM
I have heard a few places on the internet (gotta be true then) that some of our guys (SF I guess?) have the H&K 416s in small numbers. But FNH and Colt have the contracts for the M4/M16

Jason R
12-31-2007, 11:17 AM
I've seen photos of a few HK416s in the military's hands...