whats up guys...well when it comes to dirt bikes i have no clue.i used to have yz80 years ago but i have a chance to trades some hummer rims for a 81'suzuki rm250.the guy said he has done over 1200$ of motor work and clutch work on it he says it runs great and is in great shape.what is this bike really worth.should i pick it up oor is it a complete scrap can
thanks guys....

I vote.... pass

Its really too old to get any parts for and it is WAY out dated...


Worth mabey $500? or alot more to the right fool :D

hahahahah! i thought so but it was still worth asking ya never know maybe it was a classic ahhahah! ya a classic piece of shit right?
thanks man

hahah a classic, all classic dirtbikes are shit, no power, or suspension:D

hahahah so definately not a deal right....:roxy:

The 81 RM 250 is a prety good bike, it was the best of its time you know. It had a mono shock rear, and long travel front forks. The motor was probably the fastest of all the bikes thats year.

I had an 82 that I just recently sold for $800, but had put like $1200 into as well. Parts are hard to find, but the dealer can still order most of them.

Maybe it really is in great shape. Why not go look at it before you make the judgement that its a peice of shit?

Jeff

well that is why i was posting up here .the dude says it is in great shape and done head work and clutch work .im getting some pics of it tomorrow but i dont know how to post them up here.the rims i was trading him are like 125$ a rim and he wanted like 8 of them hmmmmm i dont know.is it a good bike to start out with to learn again it has been years since i moto.it does have the monoshock and he said its fast as hell
thanks for your input. i would really luv to get a bike...

Sounds like it might be a bike that is in good shape, and it probably would be fun and have a decent suspension, it is about at the cut off point for that in terms of age. But with a monoshock it would be decent. However, I wouldn't give a grand for it probably. It had better be in MINT condition to bring that. five hundred as was stated sounds more like it. And that is in good rideable condition with no major flaws and nothing to buy right away to ride it. I picked my kdx200 up for 1500 or so when it was only two or three years old, so you can find some better deals out there, or either only trade him three or four rims for it. I would like the fact that it would be different from what everybody else is riding, that's why I like my trikes so much. I like oddball stuff, but I say a grand could get you into the water cooled era...LOL

water cooled hmmmmmm sounds much better ahahhaahha! thanks alot man
i appreciate it i dont think i will do the deal anyways i think if i do buy a bike it will be yamaha:p

Just FYI, I picked up my 87 CR250 for $950.00. It's water cooled, and parts are still easy to find. I'd stay away from anything as old as an 81. Check out cycletrader.com for some stuff in your area. Just know that, at least around here, anything water cooled for around $1000.00 goes fast, so if you are interested, be ready to jump on it fast! You can always sell the rims outright and buy a bike if you really watn one.

Good luck

ya that is true .but check this out ...i made a mistake he told me he wanted 5 rims for the bike he made a video of it and it looks great. its a little old i know but for a beginner bike maybe it will be good for me .the motor was redone all it needs is a c clip for the kick start and nitrogen fot the rear monoshock and maybe a front tire.now it has new brakes front and rear but they are drums are they good.it sounds good and there is no oil burning that i can see.hmmmm would it be worth 250$....let mw know guys
damn i need gear now...

Originally posted by tj7
ya that is true .but check this out ...i made a mistake he told me he wanted 5 rims for the bike he made a video of it and it looks great. its a little old i know but for a beginner bike maybe it will be good for me .the motor was redone all it needs is a c clip for the kick start and nitrogen fot the rear monoshock and maybe a front tire.now it has new brakes front and rear but they are drums are they good.it sounds good and there is no oil burning that i can see.hmmmm would it be worth 250$....let mw know guys
damn i need gear now...

Hell, for $250.00 it would be hard to go wrong, but trading a set of hummer wheels, like you had first said would be a little bit much. Go for it! It should be a good beginner bike for you.

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thanks man. i think i will do it .its a no brainer the bike is real nice and clean...and rund great...

My 82 RM 250 was water cooled, and it ran great. Does'nt burn oil huh? It's a 2 stroke, you do know how a 2 stroke works right!

As for the brakes, well I rebuilt mine too, but they still sucked. The rear mono shock if its bad really can't be rebuilt because you can't get parts for them anymore, I bought a new used one for $150, and it worked great.

Jeff

Suzuki also began competing and winning off-road. In the World Motocross Championships, long dominated by European makes, Suzuki won the 1971 500cc title with the help of Roger DeCoster. Soon to be a racing legend, the Belgian and his bright yellow Suzukis won the World Championship four more times, in 1972, '73, '75 and '76. Suzuki extended its MX success with an incredible string of victories in the 125cc World Championship, winning the eight-liter title from 1975 to 1984. And Brad Lackey became America's first 500cc World Motocross Champion on his works Suzuki in 1982.

Stateside between 1975 and 1990, riders Darrell Schultz and Danny LaPorte (500cc), Kent Howerton and Tony DiStefano (250cc), Mark Barnett (125cc and 250cc Supercross) and Guy Cooper (125cc) would all win national championships with Suzuki.

Back on the road, Suzuki's two-stroke line grew to include a series of in-line triples, capped off by the GT750 -- the largest mass-production liquid-cooled two-stroke street bike ever offered to the public. Briefly, in 1975, Suzuki experimented with Wankel rotary-engine technology, introducing the now-collectible, short-lived RE5. And Suzuki's Grand Prix road racing efforts expanded to the premier 500cc class. Briton Barry Sheene won two-straight World Championships aboard the exotic RG500 square four. This enduring race bike would go on to two more title wins in 1981 and 1982 with Italians Marco Lucchinelli and Franco Uncini riding.



Not my writing above. :rolleyes: however, I did race for Suzuki in the late 70's. Me and my pop's met/rode with Decoster, Hannah and even Mcqeen back in the Elsinore days. Talk'n bout an 83 get's close. All I remember is my Zuk ruled the hillclimb comp that year. Mabe it was the bike. ;) Mabe it was me. :flipoff2:

Get it. Go for it. Who cares? Just ride it!!!

thanks for that info it was real enlighting ,must of been cool back then.yes i know what a 2 stroke is but it doest burn alot of oil it was rebuilt and rebored with new piston and reeds and clutcg plates and basket and bla bla bla:D

My 82 RM 250 was water cooled

dang! oldest watercooled bike I"ve heard of :eek:

I wonder when they started watercooling them, couldn't have been much earlier than that. TJ7, let us know, I'm curious as to whether the 81 is watercooled or aircooled. It has been my experience that water cooled bikes are not even in the same ballpark as aircooled when it comes to speed. A watercooled bike will fly! For example, in 85 when honda started watercooling the atc250r, it went from something like 27 or 28 hp to 36!!!

naw its not water cooled. but i supposedlt rips like mad.he changed sprokets so it has even more torque:eek:

how many teeth numbers did he change? and did he change the front one? a front tooth smaller is supposedly equivalent to 4 larger in the back.

i dont know the number exactly but they both were changed...he said it is real fast bored out motor and racing reeds :confused: what are those? can i put on a fatty pipe....

he may have put something like some boyeson reeds or something on it, should help it out some on power, I've never used them. The boring out would not make much diff by itself probably. If you know where to get a good deal on a FMF pipe by all means do it. I don't know how much luck you'll have finding one though. May have to use a DG pipe, they make pipes for more different models that are older I think. Be sure to use a good quality oil though, I like klotz at 32:1

ya he has boysen reeds in it and a dg muffler ...so it is definatley mine ;) now check this out hahahaha! i have another guy wanting some hummer rims also and he has a kx 125 dm 91-93 not sure he will let me know but he is going to trade me that bike for 4 rims now he told me the motor needs to be redone .:confused: the tranny is good but he can push start it but he said kick starting it is too loose .hmmmm i have no clue but will it cost alot to get that motor redone and will it be easy to do.its a 125 but will that be alot less powerful then the older suzuki 250 it look sreal nice also and had a rad and disc brakes .he said it was his practice bike ,but kicks ass.any info on that hahahahah im a crazy guy ay....i have two bikes now:D

82 was the first year for Suzuki, 83 for Kawasaki and the others I beleive (125-250's anyways).

The only aftermarket pipe I could find for mine was the DG pipe. It looked and sounded great though.

Jeff

the 125 that is newer would definately not be lacking in speed much compared to the old air coold bike, but I would find out more fully what exactly is wrong with it. You say the motor is broke and needs redone and then said he can roll it off and crank it that way?? If all that is wrong is the kick start that would not be as big a deal obviously as if the ring or piston was seized up. Another thing to consider though is how big a guy you are. I am 6'-1" and weigh around 240, so I don't want on a bike w/ a tiny frame that will cramp me all up for a several hour ride...

ya dude he told me the motor is a little loose.i saw the bike also and it nice new man water coolerd and all. i am like 5'10 1/2 like 195 -200lbs so i think i should be good i dont know all i know is i wanna get into riding them hahahahaha....

Originally posted by tj7
ya dude he told me the motor is a little loose.i saw the bike also and it nice new man water coolerd and all. i am like 5'10 1/2 like 195 -200lbs so i think i should be good i dont know all i know is i wanna get into riding them hahahahaha....

Sounds like the compression is very low, that's why you have to push it. If that's the case, you will need to re-do the top end. That means bore or sleeve and new piston and rings most likely. That's a pretty common thing on a 2 stroke, and doesn't even involve splitting the case.

Here's a some stuff listed on Ebay right now. I searched for "KX125 Piston". Hopefully it will help.

http://search.ebaymotors.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&query=KX125+piston&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&ebaytag1=ebayreg&category0=6000&s_partnerid=2%26category2%3D10063%26siteid%3D100&BasicSearch=

IMO, a 125 is a bit small for someone 200lbs, but they are light, and still have some kick. I did a search on cycletrader.com, and it looks like they are going for about 1500-2000. My advice, get it, rebuild the top end, sell it, and get a 85-87 CR500. That should keep you busy. :D

Good luck!

:D

wow man thanks alot.do you think the hondas are the better bikes i am a beginner remember that.what about the yz's they are real good arent they.thanks again for all the help...

Originally posted by tj7
wow man thanks alot.do you think the hondas are the better bikes i am a beginner remember that.what about the yz's they are real good arent they.thanks again for all the help...

85-87 is arguably the fastest years for Honda's. I don't get in to the Yamaha' are better than "xxxx" brand sort of thing. I was actually kind of screwing with you about the CR500. Those things are wicked fast. Too damn fast me as a matter of fact, however you won't ever be selling it because it's too slow! :D You might however, be a bit disapointed with the 125 pretty quickly.

My personal preference is KX's and CR's. Those are the bikes I grew up riding, so they have grown on me, but there is nothing wrong with the other brands. Your not going to race, you are just going to have some fun, so don't worry about it too much.

:rasta:

ya exactly i am pretty much gonna learn on it and i will have the 250 rm also so i guess it will be cool i have to prolly rebuild the kx 125 motor but that should be fun and cheap looking up on ebay at that link seems like a joke.are there any gauges on the kx's water and rpm or no

Originally posted by tj7
ya exactly i am pretty much gonna learn on it and i will have the 250 rm also so i guess it will be cool i have to prolly rebuild the kx 125 motor but that should be fun and cheap looking up on ebay at that link seems like a joke.are there any gauges on the kx's water and rpm or no

No gauges, or anything even resembling them. Have you ever riden any sort of bike before?

WTF??? gauge?? lol you won't even get a kickstand probably. No key, or idiot lights or squat. On a mx bike, anything that adds weight and is gay gets aced for performance, ever sat on a new bike, I wouldn't doubt them causing someone to go sterile they are like sitting on a banana peel. Of course all of that is the reason that my buddies 99 kx250 will stand up in fourth gear with my heavy butt sitting on the tank :D

hahahaha i know they are a frame and a motor .but with a rad up front i was just wondering if they had some type of indication of overheating but i guess it wouldnt if the older ones had fins like a xolks or a porsche.no i hvae really never rode abike long i was on a yz 80 years ago like when i wqs ten and i drove it but that was like 2 decades ago hahahahah so this is going to be real interesting for me isnt?;)

Originally posted by tj7
hahahaha i know they are a frame and a motor .but with a rad up front i was just wondering if they had some type of indication of overheating but i guess it wouldnt if the older ones had fins like a xolks or a porsche.no i hvae really never rode abike long i was on a yz 80 years ago like when i wqs ten and i drove it but that was like 2 decades ago hahahahah so this is going to be real interesting for me isnt?;)

Oh yeah, you'll have fun. Just keep in mind that when you ride a smoker, they are supposed to rev. Don't run around bogging the motor. You'll feel the powerband (kinda hard to miss!), then try to keep in there. 2 strokes are basically on or off, so it takes some getting used to, but there is no sadder sound than someone out bogging a 2 stroke because they are riding it like they would a 4 stroke.

Oh, and one last word of advice. Get a GOOD helmet, gloves and riding boots. I broke my foot last year riding without boots, and let me tell you, the $100.00 or so they will cost you is well worth it! You might also consider a couple of new pairs of undies. If you haven't been on a bike in a while, and you are going to jump on that YZ250, you will probably need 'em!

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so basically rev the living piss outta it.and be carefull not to pop the clutch right.ahahahahi dont guess ill be doin any jumps off the bat prolly just learn how to handle it and feel it. the 250 i have is a suzuki and the 125 is a kawasaki ill most prolly work out on the 125 in the beginining.
thanks man hey have you ever seen this type of helmet as i bought it and my buddy told me it was a good deal.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1840806628&ed=1026131941&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOA:US:2

Originally posted by tj7
so basically rev the living piss outta it.and be carefull not to pop the clutch right.ahahahahi dont guess ill be doin any jumps off the bat prolly just learn how to handle it and feel it. the 250 i have is a suzuki and the 125 is a kawasaki ill most prolly work out on the 125 in the beginining.
thanks man hey have you ever seen this type of helmet as i bought it and my buddy told me it was a good deal.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1840806628&ed=1026131941&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOA:US:2

Looks like a decent deal. Here is some info I found on them:

http://www.m2rhelmets.com/2002/OffRoad/SX90.htm

http://www.onoffroad.com/m2r.html

http://www.mps-shop.com/lojamotospl/product.asp?mscssid=DUMMY2PBGMN09P3P9B5BHDSDMLRQ6T 40&pf%5Fid=553&dept%5Fid=1105

This will probably be good for a little while, but you might also want to try some other ones as you ride a bit more. The less expensive helmets tend to get uncomfortable VERY quickly. I have an Answer M7 that I picked up for $99.00 with free shipping (http://www.motosportoutlet.com/s/shop/item.asp_Q_id_E_36969) . It was 2000 year graphics, but I really don't care. The damn thing is comfy! Here are a few places to check out for parts:

http://www.denniskirk.com/OffRoad.htm

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com

http://www.motosportoutlet.com/motosportoutlet/

:rasta:

damnnnnnnnnnnn thanks dude hey man.why dont ya give me your number and ill give you a call i know you can answer all my questions if ya dont mind:D

Originally posted by tj7
damnnnnnnnnnnn thanks dude hey man.why dont ya give me your number and ill give you a call i know you can answer all my questions if ya dont mind:D

I don't know about that. Do you talk funny?....... I mean being from North Carolina and all...............

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I'll PM you my number if you want. I really don't know all that much, as I've recently gotten back in to it after a while of not riding, but I'll be happy to answer what I can. Feel free to drop me some emails also.

:)

naw man im originally from montreal canada.hahahaha so i quess i do talk funny ay.anyways thanks man .i am a total newbie when it come to bikes i am a race car mechanic so i imgaine it should be a joke to rip apart and reassemble.im really looking forward to doin it:D

I dunno about all this talk against older bikes. I have a $350 1980 honda 500 that will chew up most bikes from the late 80s. Thumper (big single cyl)bikes will scare the CRAP out of you.
I have a 1976 Hodaka thunderdog 2 stroke that (when it runs- :rolleyes: ) is really quick.

I say it sounds like too good of deal to pass up. Ring and piston is around 90 bucks for an old bike, and the jug bore is about $40. Still worth it to me to have $350 or so (if the bike is $250 as stated) into a beater than a few grand. Plus the repairs on early bikes are SIMPLE.
My 500 is still a single carb! (dual coils, tho. My ass hurts when i look at the bike....) :flipoff2:

look for at least 2004 our newer you looking at a $ grabber and no fun 2 ride newer is the way to go