: Crewcab roll cage?


hav24wheel
01-02-2008, 01:57 PM
I've got a 92 ford crewcab and am looking for a internal prebent roll cage. but havn't found one. anyone know where i can find one

mikevyota
01-02-2008, 04:11 PM
Have you thought about ordering two cage kits for a Standard cab, using both main bars, along with the front stringers from one and adding your own spreaders between? I think Art Morrison or Comp Engineering offers 6 or 8 point kits for Ford P/U's.

Or get in touch with a local fab shop and get one built. I'd say at least $2000 would be fair for a complete, well DOM built cage to the frame. At least that's what I'd charge ya'.

Or, buy a bender, notcher, welder, some DOM tubing, beer, pizza and call all your friends for help. Nothing like doing it yourself.

svt150j49
01-02-2008, 05:38 PM
please pay someone else to do it correctly...:shaking:

03f350
01-02-2008, 08:45 PM
please pay someone else to do it correctly...:shaking:

X2

Panthers65
01-02-2008, 08:51 PM
please pay someone else to do it correctly...:shaking:

X3 A good local shop will be more than willing to work with you and design one for you.

As far as 2 grand, I suppose if you got real fancy it might, but a simple yet functional cage I would hope could be built for less. especially an internal

Nor Cal Wheelin
01-02-2008, 08:59 PM
x's 4......:shaking:

hav24wheel
01-03-2008, 07:45 AM
well there isn't very many fab shops to pick from here in bismarck ND that could make one for me, the one i know of i don't like, he has sold me parts that haven't lasted all of 10 min. welding and fabing isn't a problem, i use to weld for my job.. i was just hoping to find a prebent i could put in and weld. than fab some stuff to hook it to the frame.

K5HUERO
01-03-2008, 08:16 AM
i'm in the middle of my roll cage on my crew cab,,,just buy a bender,notcher, chop saw and 6 20ft sticks of 1.75" DOM,,and get to work,,:p:p:phttp://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/1984chevyk5/Truck.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/1984chevyk5/Photo0349.jpg
this is my roof halo,,,after this, all i have to do is the pillar down tubes,,and X the sh&* out of it
[IMG]http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/1984chevyk5/Halo.jpg

hav24wheel
01-03-2008, 09:01 AM
thats a cool lookin crewcab. heres mine
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/597776/fullsize/pu.jpg
did it take a long time to build the cage?

94stepsideford
01-03-2008, 09:42 AM
please pay someone else to do it correctly...:shaking:

Gene pool cleansing.

hav24wheel
01-03-2008, 11:38 AM
I don't want to pay some one else to work on my truck. i only trust a couple people to help me work on it, so a prebent would be nice, i can't find any resonably priced benders. the 2 cage kit might be the way to go. or buy a kit and another main hoop for a regular cab. unless anyone can help me find a kit??

94stepsideford
01-03-2008, 12:11 PM
i can't find any resonably priced benders.
You're kidding right? Do you want one for free or something?

http://search.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do?keyword=bender

hav24wheel
01-03-2008, 12:18 PM
[QUOTE=94stepsideford;7686523]You're kidding right? Do you want one for free or something?

those are a OPS my buddy has one of then and make crappy looking bends,

94stepsideford
01-03-2008, 12:28 PM
[QUOTE=94stepsideford;7686523]You're kidding right? Do you want one for free or something?

those are a OPS my buddy has one of then and make crappy looking bends,

"You get what you pay for"
A good bender is going to be 1K. That $60/hr is looking pretty good now isn't it?

This one aint so "cheap". But should work better

http://www.rockbuggysupply.com/

hav24wheel
01-03-2008, 12:34 PM
no $60 an hour is not going to happen, but i know you get what u pay for, i might just have to talk to a couple guys i know with good benders and see if i can use(rent) them, or just buy a used one IF i can find a good one.

TroyM
01-03-2008, 02:20 PM
You're kidding right? Do you want one for free or something?

http://search.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do?keyword=bender

Hey Newbie

those are PIPE Benders

he is building a roll cage out of DOM Steel TUBING

he needs a TUBE BENDER

simple enough for your simple mind to understand?

Proeliator
01-03-2008, 02:29 PM
I don't want to pay some one else to work on my truck. i only trust a couple people to help me work on it, so a prebent would be nice, i can't find any resonably priced benders. the 2 cage kit might be the way to go. or buy a kit and another main hoop for a regular cab. unless anyone can help me find a kit??

It sounds like what you need to do is join some wheeling clubs. Why? Because guaranteed somebody in one of them has a tube bender and would be happy to help you bend up a cage for your truck; especially if you were chipping in some cash for their time. That way you get it done right and you're involved in the process like you want to be.

94stepsideford
01-03-2008, 04:45 PM
Hey Newbie

those are PIPE Benders

he is building a roll cage out of DOM Steel TUBING

he needs a TUBE BENDER

simple enough for your simple mind to understand?

Hey, queer. They work for both. There is one sitting in my shed, ask me how I know. :shaking:

They do make messy bends though :homer:

OrangeBronc79
01-03-2008, 08:33 PM
PM sent

hav24wheel
01-04-2008, 12:21 PM
[QUOTE=Proeliator;7687112]It sounds like what you need to do is join some wheeling clubs.QUOTE]
as far as i know there is only one or two clubs in ND, i know some of the guys in one of them, but never thought of asking if they had one.... i have been trying to start a club too... but thats been slow going..

hav24wheel
01-04-2008, 12:24 PM
They do make messy bends though :homer:

Than why the hell would you want to use one for a cage. :confused: if the bends are "messy" i wouldn't want them to keep me safe.

94stepsideford
01-04-2008, 04:23 PM
Than why the hell would you want to use one for a cage. :confused: if the bends are "messy" i wouldn't want them to keep me safe.

You're trusting your welds so.....

lockers4tk
01-04-2008, 04:42 PM
Try Chris Alstons chassis works , they have cages for just about everything

(916) 388-0288 TECH LINE

Panthers65
01-04-2008, 05:01 PM
alright you know how to weld, now this is a different story. Buy a manual JD2 or Pro tools bender and a cheapo harbor freight tube notcher. The cheapy notchers are usually good for at least 1 cage. The good thing about the bender is you won't loose any money on it. those things keep their value very well. If you bent your cage then sold it for $50-100 less than what you paid for it, I'd be surprised. So you'd have to put a little bit more money up front, but in the end you'd be out at most $150 for the buy/sell of the bender and the cheap-o nother. $150 is a lot less than what you'd pay someone IN LABOR to build you a cage, plus you get to do it yourself. Then you just buy the steel and you're set.

btw I wouldn't trust my life to the harbor freight bender for anything unless you made a whole cage out of 30* bends. That bender crushes the tubing, it doesn't bend it because it doesn't enclose the tube in the die.

mikevyota
01-05-2008, 04:33 PM
A great bender for the money is the Mid-American products 90* bender. Although it is limited to 90*( I've pushed mine to 105*), it does smooth bends with minimal distortion, comes with your choice of 4 dies, uses a porta-a power for manual hydraulic use, does not require a stand in concrete like other manual benders and is portable. I got mine for $750, but that was some time ago.They also sell a electric/hydraulic unit, but it's pricey.

Don't waste your money on the H.F. "kinker". That piece of shit will just get you hurt.

If your old job required welding, why not go for it yourself? That's how I started, fucking everything up, redoing it and figuring it out along the way. I agree with you, paying someone else isn't where it's at. But like I said earlier, buy some beer, pizza and get your friends over for some fabbin'.

svt150j49
01-05-2008, 04:37 PM
.... But like I said earlier, buy some beer, pizza and get your friends over for some fabbin'.

yeah, but do the welds, then finish your beer. :laughing::flipoff2:

hav24wheel
01-07-2008, 06:42 AM
well i've talked to a couple friends of mine and a couple of us might buy a bender togeather. because we all could use a cage. but before i do that i'm going to check out the places u guys mentioned.... thanks for the help.(those that actually provided help not just info they tossed out there like 94stepsideford )

94stepsideford
01-07-2008, 09:41 AM
well i've talked to a couple friends of mine and a couple of us might buy a bender togeather. because we all could use a cage. but before i do that i'm going to check out the places u guys mentioned.... thanks for the help.(those that actually provided help not just info they tossed out there like 94stepsideford )

So you have now decided to do what somone told you on page 1 :laughing: What a fucking tool.

hav24wheel
01-07-2008, 11:32 AM
So you have now decided to do what somone told you on page 1 :laughing: What a fucking tool.
you sure are a mouthy little guy. If you look at everything that has been said, i would rather have a prebent then have to buy a bender and all that, but if i have to than i guess i will. from what i've read on some of the stuff u post is that u don't know too much and talk way to much. what have u accomplished in life besides not being able to get your gf off?:flipoff2:

94stepsideford
01-07-2008, 11:43 AM
you sure are a mouthy little guy. If you look at everything that has been said, i would rather have a prebent then have to buy a bender and all that, but if i have to than i guess i will. from what i've read on some of the stuff u post is that u don't know too much and talk way to much. what have u accomplished in life besides not being able to get your gf off?:flipoff2:

I passed english class. You?

hav24wheel
01-07-2008, 11:56 AM
I passed english class. You?
u shure did edit alot off this one..... ya i did pass, but i figure i don't need to spell everything right, u understood what was said didn't ya?

lockers4tk
01-07-2008, 12:14 PM
hav24wheel , did you get ahold of Chris Alstons chassis works. ?

hav24wheel
01-07-2008, 12:32 PM
hav24wheel , did you get ahold of Chris Alstons chassis works. ?

sure did, just got off the phone, they figured about $400 for the crewcab plus shipping. that wouldn't be too bad, i just have to fill out there custom cage worksheet.

lockers4tk
01-07-2008, 02:38 PM
Thats not a bad deal for a cage , If you think about it thats alot of mat.
to build a cage for such a large cab. Then all you have to do is install it.

lockers4tk
01-07-2008, 02:43 PM
I think I spent about that in DOM to build my front & rear bumpers & sliders
on my old truck , and thats not incl. my labor.

mikevyota
01-07-2008, 03:38 PM
$400 sounds like a deal for a pre-bent. Is that HREW or DOM? Either way, sounds like the way to go for you. Personally, I'd have CA make it DOM and be done with it.

svt150j49
01-07-2008, 10:12 PM
you sure are a mouthy little guy...

quiet noob. :flipoff2:




(figured id try it out...:laughing:)


$400 sounds like a deal for a pre-bent. Is that HREW or DOM? Either way, sounds like the way to go for you. Personally, I'd have CA make it DOM and be done with it.

it does sound like a deal. makes me wonder what quality you will get for that price... i could see spending just that or more in DOM.... without labor...

94stepsideford
01-08-2008, 08:18 AM
quiet noob. :flipoff2:




(figured id try it out...:laughing:)




it does sound like a deal. makes me wonder what quality you will get for that price... i could see spending just that or more in DOM.... without labor...

X2. But if they but it in massive ass bulk maybe they get one hell of a sweet deal :confused:

1.75" .125 wall DOM sells for about $9 a foot up here. Seems WAY too cheap to me.

hav24wheel
01-08-2008, 01:32 PM
that price is 1 5/8 DOM, i don't remember the thickness right off hand..... i also called jegs, they faxed me a measurement sheet to fill out and they said fax it back and they will get back to me with a price.(if they can make it)but they figured about $300-$400. but that one would be made of 1 5/8 x .134 wall mild steel tubing. it would exceed NHRA & IHRA standards though. so now i have to do a bunch of measuring and send them to both places and see what they have to say..

Big Del
01-08-2008, 03:17 PM
[QUOTE=94stepsideford;7708158]X2. But if they but it in massive ass bulk maybe they get one hell of a sweet deal :confused:

Who was making fun of spelling earlier?

94stepsideford
01-08-2008, 05:44 PM
X2. But if they but it in massive ass bulk maybe they get one hell of a sweet deal :confused:

Who was making fun of spelling earlier?

Spelling is fine, grammer is off. :flipoff2:

You suck at tha quoting!!

mikevyota
01-08-2008, 07:01 PM
1 5/8" is too small. I'd go with at least 1 3/4"x .120 for a fullsize truck like yours that wheels. Most rule books( SCORE, BITD, SNORE) require 2" DOM for trucks over 4k lbs, and I'd have to agree with them. Your truck has to be heavy, and your better off building a beef cage the first time. It's going to be alot of work, so do it once.

svt150j49
01-08-2008, 07:17 PM
1 5/8" is too small. I'd go with at least 1 3/4"x .120 for a fullsize truck like yours that wheels. Most rule books( SCORE, BITD, SNORE) require 2" DOM for trucks over 4k lbs, and I'd have to agree with them. Your truck has to be heavy, and your better off building a beef cage the first time. It's going to be alot of work, so do it once.

x2

lockers4tk
01-08-2008, 09:20 PM
CACW is not going to sell you a shit cage , to many hands in the pot. Do what
you think is right , CA builds cages for 250 mph 6 sec. cars. They all have
good points in this thread but the bottom line is what will make you happy it
is your truck & money..........

hav24wheel
01-09-2008, 06:32 AM
1 5/8" is too small. I'd go with at least 1 3/4"x .120 for a fullsize truck like yours that wheels. Most rule books( SCORE, BITD, SNORE) require 2" DOM for trucks over 4k lbs, and I'd have to agree with them. .


well my truck is 6,000 pounds when it is clean. so u think i should ask for 2 inch? i wonder how much stronger that would be...

94stepsideford
01-09-2008, 06:58 AM
well my truck is 6,000 pounds when it is clean. so u think i should ask for 2 inch? i wonder how much stronger that would be...

6K :eek: Yeah I'd ask for 2".

mikevyota
01-09-2008, 03:13 PM
Yeah, if your having CA make it, 2" x .120 DOM is the way to go. Also, ask for some extra lengths of 2" in case of mistakes and some 1" for gusseting.

As far as strength, I believe there's some comparison testing of material and thickness' on Pirate, somewhere. There's a big difference between HREW, DOM and CM, as well as the different wall thickness' of the same diameter.