: Zuk cage build and yota axle swap. 56k no way


Timmay
01-05-2008, 10:56 PM
I whipped this build together for a buddy (Mike). He happens to volunteer as park staff at Rausch Creek, so those of you who visit there keep an eye out.

He wanted me to swap the minitruck axles in, and build a "simple" 6 point cage. Well, I don't do stuff the simple way, I do it the right way. Here's what I came up with.

Out with the old:

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Getting a little idea of what it'll look like when he buys my old 36s.

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Rear axle gets some pipe cap protection.

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Then I picked up some 1.75x.120 DOM

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and started getting an idea of what I want to do with the A pillar

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The next day I got the A pillars in and started playing with door bar ideas. I didn't really like this one.

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Timmay
01-05-2008, 10:57 PM
Windshield bar

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For the rear I was having trouble figuring out an easy way to tie to the frame. Instead I went a little in depth (out the window goes that simple cage idea) and came up with this...

A hole

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A little bracket and some welding

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Slides right in

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Then the base plate gets welded in, tapped to M10 thread, and a matching top plate gets bolted in place to accept the tube.

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That tube that went in the quarter panel goes all the way down and ties in here

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Overall of the down tubes

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Center roof bar

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Timmay
01-05-2008, 10:58 PM
Dash bar sits nice and tight

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So tight in fact that i broke his windshield putting it in

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Next day's progress...

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Gave him some broad shoulders. I love this look.

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Harness mounts

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Timmay
01-05-2008, 10:59 PM
Overall progress. Yea I take lots of pics. :flipoff2:

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New door bars in place.

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Since the windshield was cracked, Mike told me to just ditch it.

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The front 8" got armored and installed as well.

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I used some stock XJ spring plates with some redrilling to give a little stretch.

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Rear tie ins welded up

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Timmay
01-05-2008, 11:00 PM
Overhead progress

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Then I pulled the cage to do final welding and fit the last three tubes.

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Speaking of welding, how bout some bead pics.

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Timmay
01-05-2008, 11:00 PM
Added roof bars

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Made more pretty beads.

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I didn't like how the harness bars had a void between them. I couldn't bring myself to run a straight bar, so I put this in. I think it looks real nice.

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Laying down a little paint so Mike can pick between red and black.

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Then I got started on the other 4 frame tie ins. This is the B pillar.

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Timmay
01-05-2008, 11:01 PM
At first we were thinking black, so I added more black primer...

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Pile of junk

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A pillars needed some bracing to reach the tie ins

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Timmay
01-05-2008, 11:02 PM
Tractor implement red, 5 coats. :smokin:

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Final suspension stance. 3" total stretch. Those are 33s. My 36s will go on when he gets some 17" rims.

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Rear all done up pretty.

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Shaft in place. Needs about 1" added to it.

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Timmay
01-05-2008, 11:02 PM
Before paint I added some grab handles and a windshield V. While it was drying I decided to fab up a cowl cover for the exposed dash. When you take the windshield off it leaves an ugly look, like this:

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After:

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Really cleans things up

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Final assembly. All done.

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RC staff :p

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Timmay
01-05-2008, 11:03 PM
:smokin:

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Timmay
01-05-2008, 11:03 PM
Top to bottom. You hardly even notice it.

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That's all I got. Mike just needs to add a hi steer kit, do up some brake lines, and get the proper lug nuts. If you all have any questions let me know. :D

suzukiwarrior
01-06-2008, 01:53 AM
that looks real good but why the hell did you keep the stock hoop????also i love the back frame mount

Blind Driver
01-06-2008, 05:51 AM
How much shipped to 47150? :D

Hvy_Chevy
01-06-2008, 06:09 AM
why not notch the axle caps for the fill plug and for drainage?

LostZuk
01-06-2008, 07:59 AM
Great work man, love the cage work. The Pipe caps I am not fond of though, too much friggin mud up here! Cannot wait to see her with the 36's.

Timmay
01-06-2008, 10:05 AM
that looks real good but why the hell did you keep the stock hoop????also i love the back frame mount

That's what Mike wanted. Customers are always right. :D

why not notch the axle caps for the fill plug and for drainage?

They have 5/8" holes on the bottom, you cant see them. I could fit a socket on the fill plug without an issue. It must be a bad angle.

moveaside
01-06-2008, 10:48 AM
Make sure you post up more pics of the harness install I have the exact same ones and I'm working out the details of that right now in a similar rig. I'm guessing by the shoulder height that you picked behind the seat that the person you are building it for is taller than my little short ass:laughing:

hellbilly75
01-06-2008, 10:55 AM
That looks :smokin: I like the way you tyed the rear in! I'm going to start my cage soon and might do the same thing.

Timmay
01-06-2008, 10:58 AM
Make sure you post up more pics of the harness install I have the exact same ones and I'm working out the details of that right now in a similar rig. I'm guessing by the shoulder height that you picked behind the seat that the person you are building it for is taller than my little short ass:laughing:


Yea, he's about 6'. I'm at 6'2" or so and I set the harnesses so that they come at a 10* angle up to my shoulders. Simpson recommends 0-10* at your shoulders, so him being shorter than me should land him right around 5-8* or so. Perfect.

The rest of it just ties in to the stock seatbelt brackets with some adapter plates. Pretty simple.

Timmay
01-06-2008, 10:59 AM
That looks :smokin: I like the way you tyed the rear in! I'm going to start my cage soon and might do the same thing.

:) One thing I wish I did was french the 1/4" plate into the body. Then you wouldn't even notice it was anything other than the body with some holes tapped in the top.

Either way it's clean, that just adds some pimp factor.

Valley Auto
01-07-2008, 09:57 AM
Thats a sweet cage, It really nice to see some good tech going on in this forum. What kind of bender did u use, and how did you get the tight bends in the dash bar.

fordori
01-07-2008, 11:04 AM
I liked the first set of door bars. They looked easy to get in and out, why the change?

jeepfromhell
01-07-2008, 11:09 AM
Is that on Rt 38?

catzuk
01-07-2008, 11:55 AM
Very nice work and great welding! :grinpimp: I understand the what the customer wants part, but in reguards to the stock hoop, I would have added some gussets from the DOM to it to spread out those loads more on the thinner tube of the stock bar.

Now just needs to clean up the rest of the zuk to make it match that nice cage! :D

pipehitter155
01-07-2008, 12:05 PM
nice....shit looks really good as usual....

0ILBURNER
01-07-2008, 02:14 PM
Man, I wouldn't ride in that thing for any ammount of money!

At least while those :rainbow: blue marker lights were still on there :flipoff2:



Seriously tho, looks really nice. About how much you think the cage added in weight?

zachatola
01-07-2008, 02:27 PM
awsome work. Some killer ideas and craftsmanship in that cage.

Timmay
01-07-2008, 06:33 PM
Thats a sweet cage, It really nice to see some good tech going on in this forum. What kind of bender did u use, and how did you get the tight bends in the dash bar.

I use a homemade bender that runs pro tools dies. The dash bar bends were done with a 5.5 CLR die. It worked well.

I liked the first set of door bars. They looked easy to get in and out, why the change?

I didn't think they flowed with any other part of the cage. They did make it easy to get in but I just didn't like them.

Is that on Rt 38?

:eek: Actually it is. Did you drive by and see the sami outside or something?


Very nice work and great welding! :grinpimp: I understand the what the customer wants part, but in reguards to the stock hoop, I would have added some gussets from the DOM to it to spread out those loads more on the thinner tube of the stock bar.

Now just needs to clean up the rest of the zuk to make it match that nice cage! :D

That's a good call. I thought long and hard about making this this strong. Then I realized I could pick the zuk up at the rear bumper by myself. I probably could've made the whole thing out of .095" wall and been fine.

nice....shit looks really good as usual....

Thanks man. After looking at some Crozet pics I will definitely be down for making a trip. I'll let you know when your lady can make us some dinner. :smokin:

About how much you think the cage added in weight?

I wanna say it weighed about 250 lbs. I had a hard time lifting it by myself.

But remember, he ditched the windshield, doors, top and b pillar. That's probably close to 200 lbs right there. So not much added weight.

awsome work. Some killer ideas and craftsmanship in that cage.

Thanks. I try to do things a little different.

jeepfromhell
01-08-2008, 06:11 AM
I recognized the shop my buddy used to rent it

Timmay
01-08-2008, 09:05 PM
I recognized the shop my buddy used to rent it


:eek: That is weird as hell. Cool though. I can't wait to get out of this place and into something a little better.

jeepfromhell
01-09-2008, 01:05 PM
I think its a pretty cool spot the rent is cheap (at least it was), it seems like you are getting alot done there.

rugg2kwgp
01-09-2008, 03:01 PM
Very nice tube work and welds. Nice to see a nice short buildup like this.

Hvy_Chevy
01-09-2008, 04:27 PM
doors off a tintop are about 60lbs each
the sheetmetal doesn't weight much

Timmay
01-10-2008, 06:52 AM
I think its a pretty cool spot the rent is cheap (at least it was), it seems like you are getting alot done there.

The rent has gone up i'm sure. The biggest issue is we have two 22' trailers, and storing them there has been quite a hassle. Especially trying to back into the driveway at rush hour.

Very nice tube work and welds. Nice to see a nice short buildup like this.

Thanks, I like to sum my builds up in one shot for Pirate. It keeps the bump nazis off my back. :D

doors off a tintop are about 60lbs each
the sheetmetal doesn't weight much

True. The glass is quite heavy though.

JJ3
11-04-2008, 04:34 PM
nice.

How do you get your notch's to fit perfect every time?????

supazuk94
11-04-2008, 09:54 PM
have to say nice welds and i love the detail in the corners

Timmay
12-08-2008, 07:16 AM
nice.

How do you get your notch's to fit perfect every time?????

Guess that's just practice.

have to say nice welds and i love the detail in the corners

Thanks. :smokin:

Lil' lucifer
12-08-2008, 09:31 PM
nice welds boss.... :smokin:

silversuper
12-08-2008, 09:50 PM
ma that little truck put my club to shame when it walked up our competition course at RC. i cant wait to see what he tries now that hes safe in the event of a roll!!

some serious nice work. was this just helping out a friend or do you take these projects on for cash?

RTrac1
12-09-2008, 08:56 AM
got any pics how the a-pillars tied in under the floor?


nice work!

Timmay
12-10-2008, 10:06 PM
was this just helping out a friend or do you take these projects on for cash?

Both. :smokin:

got any pics how the a-pillars tied in under the floor?


nice work!

Hmm I thought I posted some up. I'll see if I can find them for you.

98xjjeeper
12-13-2008, 02:03 PM
What size tubing did you use? It looks like 1.75 and a couple thinner peices for the window v bars and handles.

wolfhope
12-14-2008, 10:35 AM
you are correct on the Tubing.

Speed_Racer442
12-18-2008, 09:49 PM
Very nice work:grinpimp: I hope my cage turns out at least half as nice. Alot of nice details.

slickrock209
12-18-2008, 10:57 PM
Looks great the front end looks like it needs some attention. Tube fenders, stinger i think would finish it off. IMO

moveaside
12-19-2008, 07:34 AM
Its hard to make a cage both safe and pretty you pulled it off well. Almost looks too nice to roll:laughing: