My shop and apartment

[Hound_dog]

After several months of planning and getting my money together, finding land, and finding a company to buy my metal building from the time has come to start the project. I have a budget of 65000 dollars. I am building a 36x50 with 12 eves. The apartment is 20x36 leaving me with 30x36 shop space. I will have one 12x10 roll up door for the shop. The apartment will have 1 bath, kitchen, living room area and 1 bedroom. Being single this will leave me with pleanty of space to live in and the shop part will be big enough for what I need at the present time. There is room to add onto the shop later if needed and when I have more money to do it.
At present time the dirt work is done (free did it myself and dirt came from girlfriends farm), power is at work site (free because I am already a customer with the local EMC), septic tank is in and well is being drilled(total $5400), conceret is supposed to be poured on Monday, and start building the metal building later in the week. Total cost of metal building and coneret was $34000. Once this part is done I will be doing the rest myself saving me alot of $$$ to make it a little nicer.
Not really much to take pics of but once I get some I will post them up on here.
There is an old tenet house on the property which I plan on getting some wood out of to use as wall covering. I am hoping to make the apartment look like an old cabin so you don't know that your in a metal building.

[bignissan]

I'm about to do this EXACT thing...where are you located?

[Hound_dog]

located in outside Millen, Georgia

[bignissan]

$34000 seems high for that building/concrete? Is that installed and everything? What type of building did you get? I'm looking at www.miracletruss.com so I can assemble myself and save $$ on the back end of erecting the building. They are a little more up front, but overall savings in the end adds up.

[Hound_dog]

34000 includes the price of the building, them building it 4 in reinforced concerete, the extra windows and doors I added plus an exhaust fan for the shop. Considering conceret is going for 110 sq yd around here and I don't have to mess with building it myself I thought it was a good price. It was cheaper than anyone else around here that I priced out and theirs didn't include concerete.

[Hound_dog]

formed up and almost ready to pour tomorrow. Have to install drain pipes tomorrow morning.

[Jeepdude_Jay]

Are they putting a gravel base down first?

[Hound_dog]

I am not really sure. I guess I will find out tomorrow. The dirt pad is about set up like conceret now as it is.

[SPEEDCRAVIN]

Very cool Subscribed!!!

JOSH

[Hound_dog]

Josh,
The info you gave me from your build has already made things easier for me.

[Hound_dog]

Concrete is poured and drain pipes are in. Building is supposed to be erected by the end of the week.

[tortis]

my hat is off to you... i would have done this 15 years ago but the wife has a thing about living in a steel building. i showed her a couple that were finished out inside, looked like a house with a metal exterior, but nooooooooooo. oh well. good luck on your build.

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[SPEEDCRAVIN]

Josh,
The info you gave me from your build has already made things easier for me.

Very cool... I am really glad for you. Looks like you are in a great area too... I love all the trees. You are going to be real happy. I am just now getting settled in my apartment and have been working on finishing the shop area but that is kinda like my rig... Never finished!

JOSH

[Hound_dog]

Got the call today that the well is finished and the septic tank is all finished. 5400 total for both.
Building is supposed to be delivered tomorrow. See if the weather holds out since they are calling for storms tomorrow.

[J.Mehoff]

Nice good for you

[rocknbronco]

my hat is off to you... i would have done this 15 years ago but the wife has a thing about living in a steel building. i showed her a couple that were finished out inside, looked like a house with a metal exterior, but nooooooooooo. oh well. good luck on your build.

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I'm the farm land preped for a similar build myself but I'm lucky in this respect as my wife wont mind living in a garage apartment.

[tortis]

do you have to use a jet septic system? 5400 bucks sounds like a good price. you doing all the finish work your self?

[88K1500TEX]

Thats gonna be a kickass setup Id like to eventually have a shop/apartment but i want it extra tall with two story living quarters and storage over part of the shop

[Hound_dog]

The septic system is just a typical holding tank into a drain field. Nothing special about it. I think 5400 was a good price for both too. The guy that done them has done all the other work on the farm out here. I am doing all the finish work myself.
I am not real big on 2 story things so I was staying away from that. I hope to only be in it for a couple of years then start building a house. At that point it will be my dog house!!!
I am not married but my girlfriend has no problem with it.

[fj40guy]

Are they putting a gravel base down first?

Georgia.... no frost heave. :)

Same here in Texas (Austin) as it doesn't freeze, so you see sand being used as a base.

Price sounds about right. Darn hard to track pricing with steel and concrete all over the place. I went with a thicker slab (6" mininum) and a 30 x 50 steel building (14' side walls) for simliar pricing a few years ago.

Still a 'work in progress' but took advantage of warm weather last weekend to texturize the drywall in the "office" area (last 10' of the building is office/paint room)... leaving a 40' x 50' work area. (fills up fast!).

On the apartment area.... 8' ceilings?

[Po' riggity]

very cool! back when I was single, I thought all the time about just building a shop with a small apt above it.. but my wife would never have that now!
Scott

[fj40guy]

I am not real big on 2 story things so I was staying away from that. I hope to only be in it for a couple of years then start building a house. At that point it will be my dog house!!!


Sketch out the interior layout. With a little thought, it will be easy to convert "big living area" to a clean machining area. Trick is to frame in a larger opening... they "fill it" with a straight wall (If you need an outlet on the wall, run wiring up through joist and back down. Easy to 'remove' after the fact... as compared to normally running romex through the middle of the studs)

Biggest problem with the shop/home... dust, dirt, grinding grit. So if you can pressurize the living area (i.e. fan blowing into the area) it will help keep dust out.

Po Riggity.... why do you think I want a shop with a small office (with A/C) in it... next time I bring home another "just needs a little work.... " project, at least I'll have a cot in there! :flipoff2:

[Hound_dog]

Got home this morning from work to find no one working on the building. Nothing was even delivered and I was a little dissappointed. Had to go down to Statesboro and left at 1030 and still no one was there. I was thinking that since they had been calling for bad storms that they decided not to come out. The sky was sunshinning and the weather man was wrong again. Got back from Statesboro around 130 and they were there working with a good bit up. I didn't want to get in their way so I worked on digging my water line to the hog pin.
Here are some pics of what it looked like when I left a little bit ago.

[Hound_dog]

[QUOTE=fj40guy;7714039]Sketch out the interior layout. With a little thought, it will be easy to convert "big living area" to a clean machining area. Trick is to frame in a larger opening... they "fill it" with a straight wall (If you need an outlet on the wall, run wiring up through joist and back down. Easy to 'remove' after the fact... as compared to normally running romex through the middle of the studs)

Biggest problem with the shop/home... dust, dirt, grinding grit. So if you can pressurize the living area (i.e. fan blowing into the area) it will help keep dust out.QUOTE]

I have drawn out the apt side several different ways and I think I have picked the best way to make the most of the small space. If I am right in the way I plan on doing it it will look bigger than what it really is. Will have to just wait and see how it turns out.
The ac/heat has already been addressed so that the living space is pressurized. That idea came from my ac guy that I am having do it. He runs his own business and has even pattened several different things reguarded to the heating and ac industry.

[Po' riggity]

Po Riggity.... why do you think I want a shop with a small office (with A/C) in it... next time I bring home another "just needs a little work.... " project, at least I'll have a cot in there! :flipoff2:

Trust me, I understand. The closest I got was being GUARANTEED that the next house we buy (hopefully in a couple years) will have AT LEAST a 2 car garage. All this happening when my dad, who lives in Missouri has a 10,000 sq ft shop for all his classic cars that he's selling, only to build one just as big on his property right next to his house :laughing: Yes I am jealous.
Scott

[tortis]

Got home this morning from work to find no one working on the building. Nothing was even delivered and I was a little dissappointed. Had to go down to Statesboro and left at 1030 and still no one was there. I was thinking that since they had been calling for bad storms that they decided not to come out. The sky was sunshinning and the weather man was wrong again. Got back from Statesboro around 130 and they were there working with a good bit up. I didn't want to get in their way so I worked on digging my water line to the hog pin.
Here are some pics of what it looked like when I left a little bit ago.

sounds like contractors are the same everywhere. hahaha i work for myself, and by no means am i the cheapest, but if am not going to be there when i told you i was going to be there, you will be getting a phone call from me letting you know what is going on. i just treat people the way i like to be treated.

[Jeepermat]

Looks like its going up pretty fast, looks good though

[Hound_dog]

It is going up pretty fast. They say as long as no hitches tomorrow it will be done by tomorrow afternoon. I have to work the next two days so I will not get to see the progress until I get home after dark.

[AggieLR]

Looks sweet. My wife and I are starting the same thing, only I'm going 40x60 ft with 14 ft eaves. We'll live in 40x20 leaving 40x40 shop. I've got the survey going and should be completed by the end of next week. I've got prices on the building w/ doors, windows, and 4" insulation at $17,500 shipped. Concrete around $9,000, then we'll finish out the interior ourselves with a little help from a family friend who is a carpenter (mostly for advice and what to do/not to do).

[jonnysteals]

I got a question in regaurds to the zoning. Will the building be considered a residency with an attached shop or will it be a commercial building with an attached residency. I am debating building something like this and would like to know how it is zoned for mortgages, and insuraces and such. Thanks alot and look forward to seeing your buildings progress.

[SPEEDCRAVIN]

I got a question in regaurds to the zoning. Will the building be considered a residency with an attached shop or will it be a commercial building with an attached residency. I am debating building something like this and would like to know how it is zoned for mortgages, and insuraces and such. Thanks alot and look forward to seeing your buildings progress.

I think it really depends on the local government and your financing bank. I know the city did not care but I prefured to keep it as a residence because of building fees and taxes. My bank would not finance it any longer than 15 years unlike the 30 year home morgages because they do not consider it a typical housing structure and my insureance company will not give me multiple vehicle discounts because they only do that when you also insure your home and they dont classify my place as a home. Instead they classify it as an independant out building... Once I build my home then I can get a discount on the multiple vehciles, discount on the shop-apartment on my home owners plan...

Oh and another thing is when i do build the house and consolidate the exsisting loan as one it will then go to a 30 year note and the payment for the home and shop as one stretched out an aditional 15 years my payment will not be much more than what I have now...

My wive always drops the comments about the shop costing as much as the house is going to...:D

Just depends but thats my experience...

JOSH

[Hound_dog]

With where I am things are a lot different than they are anywhere else. I am in a very backwards, behind the times county. My land is considered farm land so I can basicly do whatever I want to do. No zoneing to worry about.
The insurance is done just like a regular house with my insurance company.
The financing is being taken care of by a friend of mine who runs a mortgage company. They are taking care of that end for me so I can get it financed as a regular house.
Hope this helps. Josh is right that it does depend on local government so you are going to have to check with them for what you need.

[wheelchairman]

Trust me, I understand. The closest I got was being GUARANTEED that the next house we buy (hopefully in a couple years) will have AT LEAST a 2 car garage. All this happening when my dad, who lives in Missouri has a 10,000 sq ft shop for all his classic cars that he's selling, only to build one just as big on his property right next to his house :laughing: Yes I am jealous.
Scott

Classic cars in Missouri? Where at is he sellin them?

[Hound_dog]

Updates from Thursday. It rained all day on Fri and the guys putting it up don't work on Sat or Sun.

[bignissan]

Looking good!!!!

[SPEEDCRAVIN]

Hell yeah Im am diggin it. The insulation they used in the walls is the same as my building. I had tons extra laying around and before it was burned or trashed I picked it all up and put it is a safe place until they studding was done... When the have the inside of the apartment all studded up go in behind it and wad the extra insulation between the exterior wall and the studs. There will be about a 16 inch area from the exterior wall and the inside of the stud. The residential insulation crew will still have the 2x4 area to install their insulation...

I got my electric bill for the first time the other day and it was only 37 bucks. I know it is because I have so much insulation in the walls and if you do have it extra insulation laying around its only the cost of the time to do it...

More insulation will be warmer in the colder months like now and cooler in the warmer months...

Just an idea??? I also did the same thing inside my interior walls of the shop and I have yet to see colder than 54 degrees even with the couple of nights ebing 18 and 19 degrees here... With that much insulation it does not take much to keep it warm in there...

Very nice build man, very cool...

JOSH

[pipehitter155]

man i'm jealous i can't wait to build my shop...

[jonnysteals]

ok cool. thanks for the quick responses from the guys that actually built a garage/apartment combo. my regulations are rather strict (new Jersey) but i dont think it will be to much of a hassel. Thanks and I am looking forward to see the progress in the shop.

[Hound_dog]

Once they get done with the metal building part of it I will be doing the rest. I was planning on insulation the walls between the exterior and the inside. I was going to use the extra to do that with. There is a 13 1/2 gap between the exterior wall and the interior wall. I am hoping for cheap electric bills at least thats what I am shooting for. I know once I get in there and start working in the shop that will go up but thats part of it. They are out there today working but I am not going to be getting pics because I am going hunting here in a few mins.

[SHERPA]

yup, it's official hounddog....................... you suck.................

Nice build......... I sometimes can't get to sleep at night thinking about how
to do this n that when I finally have my chance at my home shop.. (I'll probably be 50+ by then, but what the hell)....

I still want to put in radiant floor heating in the ""Office"" area in my shop,
mainly because it's gonna do double duty as a shop-apartment/guest home
for when company comes to visit......

again,

kudos's to you for being able to do this, and share it with the rest of us-!

--Sherpa

[Hound_dog]

The building is done and I have moved some stuff in. Got a couple of walls up today. Hope to get the rest of them up tomorrow.

[UCTJ]

That is just bad ass!! Every night I think about doing something like this...espically as I honestly do not see my marriage holding out for the long haul and like everyone I will need some place to live and want a shop also. Nice work.

[SPEEDCRAVIN]

Keith Thanks for the info on the fan. Did you install it for fumes, fress air?? Is it reversable, it does not look like it with the louvers... I have realized I will be needing one and saw yours.. I was using the plasma for a while the other night and the shop was polluted pretty well up high and stunk:shaking:

JOSH

[Hound_dog]

Josh, I got the fan for both of the reasons you listed. It is not reversable as I did not see a need for it. All I have to do is crack the bottom of the rollup door and turn the fan on and it will pull air through there good.

[SPEEDCRAVIN]

I think I will have to do the exact same thing. There is a guy just down the road that disassembles and rebuilds chicken houses in my area for Tysons and he sells the chicken house fans for 30 bucks. I bet he might have a frame (vent and louver assembly) for cheap too. I think one would be fine for my needs... See Im getting tips from your build too:smokin:

JOSH

[Hound_dog]

Here are some update pics. I have a little more done but it was too dark inside to take pics.

[bignissan]

The nice thing is, you've got enough space for storage on top of the apartment! I still contemplating on doing what you have done, but with 16' walls so I could put the apartment up top, and have the machine shop below...Un-decided still, but yours is looking really good!!

[tortis]

i go out of town for a few days and, BAM. the outside is done and framing walls. progress is good. would you change anything? what are you going to seal the concrete with?

[StinkBug]

I've been planning on doing this exact thing for a couple years now, and it looks like I'm actually getting fairly close. Please keep posting pics and info on how you set everything up.

[rocknbronco]

That is just bad ass!! Every night I think about doing something like this...espically as I honestly do not see my marriage holding out for the long haul and like everyone I will need some place to live and want a shop also. Nice work.

Then get rid of the extra weight is all I can tell ya. My ideal on it is if you can get along go apart the faster the better.


Nice to see the progress on the building.
So far for mine I got the area bush hogged a bit and need to go in some more and remove old fence line. The bush hog again and start the foundation.

[Hound_dog]

Update on my build. I have finished with putting up all the walls and sheeting the top. I have also run part of my plumbing but not done with it yet. Heres what it looks like so far.

[mucknet]

Looks good. Keep up the progress. subscribed.

[hoodrichxj]

Very nice.

[SPEEDCRAVIN]

Looking good Kieth, It wont be long now...

JOSH

[russellmn]

Nice! I have plans in the works for something similar to this and Speed's. Mine will be 16' ceilings and have the apartment lofted with "garage" space below, shop space everywhere else.

[Hound_dog]

Got most of the plumbing done yesterday. I have to get a few more parts to finish it up. Hopefully will start the electical on monday. Thanks for all the good words. Will keep yall updated.

[fj40guy]

Uh, long day?

What goes into this opening? Open walk way or door? Simpson Strong Ties has a couple of metal brackets that have a reinforced "L" to support the bottom beam. If you'll have a heavy load on top, I'd redo the header splicing into the side 2x4's.

TIP: When you flip to 2x4's vertical, there is a gap... I make up a bunch of headers with a 3/8 osb, construction adhesive, and nails ahead of time. Just cut (ya, try to avoid nails!) to needs and install as required.

We all do that stuff... start framing, remember we need an opening, and later realize oops. :eek:

Tom

[Hound_dog]

Thats just an open walk through. Uhm I built all my headers that way. Not planning on much weight up there. I will look into what I can do to make it stonger. Thanks.

[fj40guy]

Hound Dog,

Do you have a Sawzall? (silly question on PBB). It will make faster work of trimming out the head (cut the nails, you'll reuse the wood). Once done, just cut into the first 2x4 next to the opening (aka trimmer stud on the diagram) and replace those bottom three horizontal 2x4's with vertical 2x4 & a filler (i.e. 3/8 or 1/2" plywood).

Scanned a page from book, a friend gave me. Sigh my Dad knew all the tricks of the trade, but passed away before I started my shop so I had to do a little head scratching.

Oh my 'man cave' in the shop is about done. Need to get trim up, when looking at the drop down door for attic access, it dawned on my "centered light/fan box" is too close to the drop down door! Damn, I hate doing stuff like that... now if I can find a two bladed fan....

Tom

[fj40guy]

Side note, this was the book I scanned the page from.

Spiral bound, it rocks with lots of 'little details' -- some stuff I knew, others I didn't, but was cool guide with lots of detail for building. I did use it for my 18' x 24' shed... Building Inspector walked away shaking his head with the comment "planning on a 140 mph wind!" He passed it, but laughed all the way back to the truck (shed isn't going any where, any time soon.)

Tom

[TJ44s]

Side note, this was the book I scanned the page from.

Spiral bound, it rocks with lots of 'little details' -- some stuff I knew, others I didn't, but was cool guide with lots of detail for building. I did use it for my 18' x 24' shed... Building Inspector walked away shaking his head with the comment "planning on a 140 mph wind!" He passed it, but laughed all the way back to the truck (shed isn't going any where, any time soon.)

Tom

Whats the copy right date on that book ?

[fj40guy]

Whats the copy right date on that book ?

2000.

ISBN 1-56158-353-7

[SPEEDCRAVIN]

BUMB!!!:smokin:

I love it, I have become the shop slut - picture feen like the ones on my thread:flipoff2:

JOSH

[Hound_dog]

Electrical is all done. Still need to finish my plumbing. I have been slow with that. Going to run some speaker wire to have speakers for the radio in all the rooms. Started a little on the insulation. I have been bouncing around between things that need to be done. Got all my lights ordered and most are in. Got my flooring ordered. Going the laminate flooring route. It is easy to put in and is quick to do. Unfortantly I am working today and tomorrow so no work is going to get done. Hope to do alot on Sat.

[tortis]

lookin good hound dog.

[Straight8]

Don't worry about the header, no snow load, no wind load. no shingle load, no biggy let her buck.

[paulkeith]

very nice man. I'm about 4 months from the end of a lease, just starting to look at the same options.

How much land did you buy, and what did you pay? If you dont mind.

[Hound_dog]

I am building on a little more than 2 1/2 acres. I bought the land from my girlfriends dad so I didn't pay market value. I prefer not to say what I paid for it.
It has been awhile since I have given any updates as I have had to work alot and really haven't had much time to work on it. I got my wiring done with the exception of the panel, all my insulation is done, my plumbing is almost done. All I have left there is digging a trench to the septic tank and making the connections to it. I have started putting the ceiling up. The water hearter is in. I also got a delivery yesterday of my laminate flooring. Heres a few pics.

[TLCObsession]

Why didn't you vault your ceilings?

Tom - I use the same book as my framing reference... Its as good as any book that we have in our architectural library.

[Dookey]

I need to find some land and toss up my own place. It kills me to watch all these cool threads go by! That laminate flooring pallette looks all too familiar. Are you installing it yourself? If you need any pointers or suggestion I do that kind of crap for a living. :D

[Hound_dog]

I did not vault the ceiling because vaulted ceiling = higher heating and cooling bills. More space to heat or cool. Also it gives me a little storage space above the apartment.
Dookey: I am building it myself and if I come across something I will hit you up for some pointers.

[foley]

I was going to point out the king stud - trimmer deal on the doorway, but it looks like you've gotten plenty of advice on the topic.

FYI, the way I typically do it if i'm not using an actual header is to make an I beam out of 3 2x4's.

If that's a load bearing wall it's worth going back and fixing, otherwise I'd probably skip it at this point.

Cool looking build. I lucked into marrying a woman who came with a house, shop, barn, 2 garages, etc etc. Previous owner of the place ran a machine shop on the premises, even has 3 phase power. I always like to pay attention to these builds though cause it's only a matter of time till she / we get sick of living near the city and decide to move to a more remote location. When we do, this will be the first residence we have until the current house / farm get sold.

I'm banking on urban sprawl, lol

[paulkeith]

hey, i saw over on garage journal taht you said you're not subject to inspections, does that mean you didn't need a permit either?

[Hound_dog]

I could have gotten away with building it without a permit because of where I am in the county but I decided to be a good citizen and spend the 10 bucks for a permit.

[Hound_dog]

Here are some more updates with a few pics. All of my wall covering is up, the ceiling is up, and am now getting into doing all the trim work. I stained my ceiling and it turned out ok. I was trying to decided on painting my walls or staining them and I think I am going to paint. Still up in the air on it. It seems like the progress is going slow now to me compared to how quick it all started out. It will eventually get done! Work keeps getting in the way as it is today.

[Hound_dog]

Another update for yall. It has been awhile since I have done this. Got a good bit done in the bathroom, floor is in, most of the trim is done, electrical panels are in, and got some of the light fixtures in. AC/Heat is supposed to be here tomorrow. Still have alot of little stuff to finish up. Ready for it to be done.

[UCTJ]

Looking good..I like what you did with the ceiling. Nice crapper pose..:flipoff2:

[rocknbronco]

Love tha Antlers:evil:

[bigdreamin]

When you flip to 2x4's vertical, there is a gap... I make up a bunch of headers with a 3/8 osb, construction adhesive, and nails ahead of time

Did you mean 1/2" a stud is 1.5"x3.5", so two studs sandwiched between 1/2" osb equals 3.5". Very good tip to build all your openings before you frame up the wall, unless it's a huge ass garage door opening.

Hound dog you never said if you did anything about your headers. Nails should never support any weight in a framed wall. Your opening will sag as the weight of teh wall pulls the nails out of the stud.

[Hound_dog]

I did not do anything with the headers. I talked to a few people who do construction for a living and they said although it is not the best way to do it, it will work since the are not bearing anykind of load. Theres no upstairs to this place and I do not plan on storing much stuff up there.

[bigdreamin]

I did not do anything with the headers. I talked to a few people who do construction for a living and they said although it is not the best way to do it, it will work since the are not bearing anykind of load. Theres no upstairs to this place and I do not plan on storing much stuff up there.

:shaking: It is bearing a load. The wall has to support itself. It may work, it may not. I just hope you don't have to find out the hard way what a PITA it will be to fix it later then if you would have done it right from the start.

[Hound_dog]

I guess I will just wait and see what happens with it. You live and learn from things. Hopefully I will not be living in it long enough for a problem to evolve from it. Once I build my house I will be tearing alot of this out and converting it into a smaller office type space. Alot of what I used I will be reusing in the house build whenever it starts. I am no building expert but the walls themselves support each other. When someone refers to load bearing they are refering to the load applied to the wall from above wheather it be another floor or roof. None of my interior walls are load bearing. Just the outer walls. If a problem does come up it will be with the entry door from outside and the door going into the shop.

[Positive Vibes]

Great thread!

I read it all but didn't notice (or maybe I didn't do the math) but how many square feet it the apartment.

[Hound_dog]

It comes out to around 780.

[bigdreamin]

I guess I will just wait and see what happens with it. You live and learn from things. Hopefully I will not be living in it long enough for a problem to evolve from it. Once I build my house I will be tearing alot of this out and converting it into a smaller office type space. Alot of what I used I will be reusing in the house build whenever it starts. I am no building expert but the walls themselves support each other. When someone refers to load bearing they are refering to the load applied to the wall from above wheather it be another floor or roof. None of my interior walls are load bearing. Just the outer walls. If a problem does come up it will be with the entry door from outside and the door going into the shop.

I'm not trying to be an ass, but from what you have said in this post I hope you hire some one to build your house.

[Hound_dog]

This is the first time I have done anything like this. I have learned alot. I have made mistakes in building some of this. I fixed the ones that had to be fixed. After talking with some builders about the headers after it was pointed out that I did not build them the best way I decided to leave them. When I build my house I will build them the way they were pointed out to build. Everyone has to learn somewhere cause noone is born to know everything. I will be building my house when the time comes. I don't think your being an ass. Your giving your opinion on something and we all know what opinions are!

[Hound_dog]

The apartment is finished. Will post pics as soon as I can find my usb cable for the camera. Now just have to start on the shop side of the building.

[Hound_dog]

Here are the pics of the finished inside. Well I do have a few little trim pices to put up but nothing to keep me from moving in. The pics are of the bedroom looking in and then looking out, looking into the kitchen from front door, kitchen close up and looking into living room.

[Hound_dog]

Last pic is of the closet/laundry room. It is set up to be able to come in from the shop to the laundry room and then walk right into the bathroom to clean up and shower.

[UCTJ]

Is that an FFA jacket hanging in the last pic on the right? Nice finish...what do you need to do in the shop?

[Hound_dog]

It is an FFA jacket. Putnam County GA. I need to build some work benches, clean it up, do the finish work on the sheetrock in the shop, and some odd and end stuff.

[DHONDAGOD]

Nice :beer:




Chris:cool2:

[Tex1978]

Do you have a floor plan you can post up? I am building a 40x60 and gonna wall in 20x40 so it wont be far off from what you got. I am going LR, BR, bath and kitchen also.

[4x4not]

Man, I thought buying my 4 car garage (that came with a free house!) was nuts, but you damn built your house IN the garage. I like it :D

(I'm also liking that I'm finally typing this FROM the garage. Gotta love the dedicated shop computer w/ PBB!)

[Hound_dog]

Here is a quick drawing I did.

[f-4x4]

hey is there any updates on this?

[Slowzuki]

In cold climates windows aren't framed with lintels on non-load bearing walls, it is a thermal bridge that dumps heat right outside. The problem I see is if he want's to stack stuff on the roof/ceiling.
Ken