Here's a few pictures of the start of #89. As some of you already know I'm doing this build using a early Ford bronco for a base. I have had the frame media blasted and have removed the extra brackets that I didn't need. The rear frame horns had some damage where the bumper bolts on so I cut that off and added new rear sections and a cross member for the rear spring shackles. I'm heading out next weekend to Apple Valley to pick up the fun part of the build.:D

What are rest of the specs going to be?

Dana 44 front with a detroit and warn axles with CTM joints a 9" rear with a detroit 4.88 gears in both axles. Mild Ford 302 with mustang EFI and a C4 transmission with a 4.3 atlas behind that. I'm running 37" MTR's with Staun beadlocks. I'll be keeping the coils up front and I run a wristed axle housing that helps the flex out. Just keeping the leafs in the rear for right now. I think that sums it up. :D

I didn't realize that EB's have boxed framerails. Also straight from front to back--very narrow should make it easy to "inboard" the rear springs.

I'm ASSuming you've plated and welded the typical weak points on the stock brackets and frame?

EB width or fullwidth?

Must be nice to fabricate it all on a two-post lift!!

Subscribed! :D

Sounds like it's going to be a nice build up. I look forward to seeing finished project. :)

Pictures are from the Ford shop I work at, the daily driver is still in the garage.:shaking: Yup the hoist is nice I even hung the frame on it's side for welding, nice to be able to weld everything on a flat surface.:D

Very nice Steve!! Looks like you moved the front spring towers forward a bit, 3-4"?? What's the WB planned?

On a side note, looks like I should be a go for this weekend, pending approval from the Spousal Unit (shouldn't be an issue).
Joe

Yup moved them foward 3" planning on 102" WB. Snowing like a SOB here, about 6" on the ground and still coming down!! I've lived here about 10 years and saw my first city snow plow today, I think we have one or two for a city of 45,000.:D

This is cool...i thought to be an F-Toy it had to be a Toyota....I am building one out of a 78 Jeep Cherokee...i just bought the tubing and did my own cage from the blueprints on the Hendrix site....I will be watching this build!

Hey Horton, it would be cool to see your build thread. Post up. It's not an "official" rig without a Toy drivetrain anyway, but this is a budget class...it would be cool to see Jeep, Ford, Chevy spinoffs.

That's the fullsize Cherokee--Cherokee Chief? Using the entire Jeep drivetrain? 44's f&r, 360, quadratrac?

Hey Horton, it would be cool to see your build thread. Post up. It's not an "official" rig without a Toy drivetrain anyway, but this is a budget class...it would be cool to see Jeep, Ford, Chevy spinoffs.

That's the fullsize Cherokee--Cherokee Chief? Using the entire Jeep drivetrain? 44's f&r, 360, quadratrac?

YEP!...but i only have 35s on it for now...i cant post pics so its hard to show it......

Email them to me. I'll post them.

Picked up #89 this weekend, it was great to meet Jerry and get some good build hints from him!! I made the trip solo with my trusty corgi Ein to keep mme company:D

Hey cool to see someone in Farmington building a FToy(somewhat). I really want to build one. I'd like to check out your cage sometime.

Sweet! Dang that thing looks so small in the back of the Ford.

YEP!...but i only have 35s on it for now...i cant post pics so its hard to show it......

Email them to me. I'll post them.

Funny... Turns out Horton lives about 3 miles from me here in North East TN. I'm gonna have to get over there and get some pics and shoot the bull some with him. Small World.

Hey Steve,

Did you ever see this build thread?:
Hendrix toy chassis 26 on an EB (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=310624)

Here's some good tech from post #10:
http://www.txwheelers.com//NickM_files/frame_specs4.jpg

Here was his last pic as of Jan 2007:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=282244&stc=1&d=1168732880

As of Nov 07, he was 4-linking the front (had 4-linked the rear) and going full hydro.

Yup I've seen it, don't know if he started with the plans to link the front/rear but he should have just bought a X chassis.:D

From his build, he started on a budget...and you can see where that went! :laughing:

Got the other project out of the garage today so I can start on the Fbronco:D I know you guys might not give a crap but heres a picture of my old school Bronco:flipoff2: I should have the tubing tied into the frame this weekend.

Do you have a wristed housing already? If not I have a BC broncos kit in one I would be willing to sell. PM me if interested. Thanks Shawn

Just about have the frame and the Ftoy line up so I can get it tacked together this weekend. I don't have a front cross member to tie into, I'm thinking some .120 wall between the frame rails for a monunt. Do yoiu guy think that will be strong enough? or shound I put soem 2"x4" tube in there instead?

What are your winch mounting plans?

I'm planning on using the stinger bumper/mount from my current rig. It has some beefy mounts that slid into the frame, it takes up about the front 3-4" of the front of the frame.

Cool build!! Man I wish toyota frames were narrower in the back like the EB frame is.

Waited almost two weeks to get tubing :mad3: Finally got some work done this weekend. They are calling foe temps in the 50's next weekend so I'll get the main parts stripped off the Bronco finally!

It's kinda hard to tell for sure from the pics, but I think you're going to want to tilt the dash up a bit more so you have some knee room.
Joe

subscribed :smokin:

Nice EBs in the background:grinpimp:

I've got some updated pictures I'll post in the next day or two.

Here's a few update photos.Any coments? The seats and column are just mocked up at this point. I need to get the Bronco ready for a Table Mesa trip early next month so I'll need to lay off the F Bronco for a few weeks.

Those are really, really clean spring hangers!! Nice! :smokin:

Are those wide seats? They look close together--will you need to drop your drivetrain below the seat frames?

Does the steering wheel point at your neck?

Here's a few update photos.Any coments? The seats and column are just mocked up at this point. I need to get the Bronco ready for a Table Mesa trip early next month so I'll need to lay off the F Bronco for a few weeks.

You need to ring up the couple of Ftoys in the phoenix area. We can come out and play and show you what some of the completed rigs can do.

I'm going out for the Arizona Early Bronco Stampede, go every year. Don't suspose you know Randy Harrel from Driven auto by chance? My drive train ends before my seats, a benifit of the Ford drivetrain:D Yup those are wide seats, I'm 45 and have a wide ass and like my comfort:D

Got some more done today, should be working on the other rig but it's rainy out. Got the six lower frame tie in buitl and fabbed up some front radius arms.

Back from a nice 5 day weekend at Table Mesa and now it's time to get back to work. I won a nice rear seat in the raffle and had a nice present in the mail when I got home:D

Got a little more work done, it's been going kind of slow though. We've been trying to get our house ready to go on the market and there was a week and half long wheeling trip out to Death valley and the Mojave road. Here's some pic's with the suspension tacked in place. I'll be taking it all back off this week so I can roll the rig ove to finish up the welding.

looks kool!!!

Got the drive train stabbed today and the radiator mounted up.

I am liking that front :smokin:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=366423&stc=1&d=1208812170

What kinda headers those? I had 2 sets that didn't fit, Ill probably run stock manifold if I cant find a set of cheap headers.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=370631&stc=1&d=1211076775

BTW I dropped the D60/14 idea for Rockwells

They are 94'-95' mustang factory units. Any of the factory Mustang units will work. Left side fits great, right side will need a great exhaust guy or do like I'm doing and modify the header itself. I'll be cutting the collector off and moving it using some 3" tube for a better fit.

Looks great!

They are 94'-95' mustang factory units. Any of the factory Mustang units will work. Left side fits great, right side will need a great exhaust guy or do like I'm doing and modify the header itself. I'll be cutting the collector off and moving it using some 3" tube for a better fit.

Can you take a pic for me. Mine seems really close. Actually one stud in on top of the frame and the other is on the inside of the frame.

Updates?


You dont think this will hang kinda low?

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=370633&stc=1&d=1211076775

Nice to have it up on all four tires:bounce2::bounce::bounce2: Trying to get the house ready to put on the market so things will be going slow for the next month:(

Wow that is looking good:grinpimp:

Nice,

Gonna bring it out to the Pro-Rock so we can get a look at it? I hope I make it there tomorrow.

No but you can come by the house for a beer and check it out:beer: cell is 860-2173 give me a call.

Tell me about the hood!! Love it!

It's a old hood that came on a parts Bronco. It wa a super cheap hood didn't even any inner strucure to it.

Nice work :) Looking fwd to more pics and updates.

Here's some update pictures of the floor subframe/seat mounts bracing. I'm looking for comments:D I'm planning on adding steel to the two flat iron parts to make them a "C" channel.

Right side seat mounting. Thwere will be some gussets added to the foward mounts.

Nice work, I like what are doing for the crossmember/seat mounts.

Nice work, I like what are doing for the crossmember/seat mounts.x2 very nice!!

nice idea on the seat mounts. Do you have pix of the boat sides? Are they going to be welded to the chassis?

Yup "boat" sides will be welded on, hope to get to that in the next week or so.

thats looking sweet...I'm thinking about the same thing myself!! nice fabbin'

I boat sided mine also and welded to the frame rail. Came out pretty good.

Seat mounts are in next up is the dash and steering column.

Here's a few more update pictures of the steering column and the brake pedal bracket. Still not sure what I'm going to do about tying the windshield bars into the frame. As MT4runner point out my steering column placement has blocked a direct shoot from the bar to the frame. Thinking about bending a loop that will go under the column and then tie that into the frame:confused: I bring the suck at adding to a picture but I tried to add what I think might work for the bar on my last picture.

Your steering column mount looks relatively beefy...could you fully box it in so it carries the weight coming down from the windshield bar*...what about a section of 3" pipe for the steering column to run through--and run a tube kicker down from that pipe sleeve to the frame?

*actually, if you're on your lid, it would be the weight of your drivetrain on your frame, though that brace, and up the windshield bar to the lid!! :laughing:

fabbed up some shock mounts today. I don't have a tubing bender so I bought the hoops from Ebay for $60 for each pair. I'll be tying the tops of the hoops into the rest of the tubing also.

Nice corgi i have 2

I've got a pair of them also, need to have two so they can keep each other busy.

subscribed...i really like how the front end looks with that bronco hood and stinger...nice work keep it up any updates ?

Right, been ove 2 months with no updates. Hows it going???

Been kind of slow for the last two months or so but I'm getting back on it this week. My male corgi thats in the build thread got sick before Christmas and has Lymphoma so we've been spending a lot of $$ on his treatment so that has taken $$ out of my build fund. He's doing great though, I never thought I'd say that me dog is getting chemo:eek: I hope to have the boat sides done next week sometime and I'll try to get some updated pictures.

Sucks to hear about your dog, but good to hear that it is getting better.

No kids so our dogs our the surrogate kids:D

It's a old hood that came on a parts Bronco. It wa a super cheap hood didn't even any inner strucure to it.


Way to sneak a little bit more Bronco on there Steve..glad your pup is doing better....L

keep up the hard work :D It will pay off :smokin:

No kids so our dogs our the surrogate kids:D

Hell, the wife and I have 2 kids, 4 dogs and 4 cats o-yeah and a ferret. Like living in a zoo. :laughing::laughing:

its looking nice i have a question though not trying to be mean and maybe i dont understand whats toyota about it? (toyota- formula toy forum)
i like it tho dont have a problem i was just wondering.. go ahead and flame me if i am in the wrong!

Well it is an f-toy. and its not the only one without toyota running gear

its looking nice i have a question though not trying to be mean and maybe i dont understand whats toyota about it? (toyota- formula toy forum)
i like it tho dont have a problem i was just wondering.. go ahead and flame me if i am in the wrong!as long as you buy an F-toy cage i guess its cool....i got an ass chewing because i was using a different drive train and built an F-toy look-a-like cage from the blueprints

as long as you buy an F-toy cage i guess its cool....i got an ass chewing because i was using a different drive train and built an F-toy look-a-like cage from the blueprints

No offense man, but it didn't look Ed-Zacary like the blueprints. :shaking:
You should have posted in the Gen 4x4 forum with your "FSJ tube buggy"! :D It had neither a Formula Toy chassis, nor a Toyota drivetrain!!!!



FWIW, SanDiegoCJ has an FToy chassis on an aftermarket CJ chassis by TDK.

I've been wheeling for over 20 years, my first 4x4 was a 79' Toyota PU that I built up and put huge 33" swampers on:D Although this isn't a normal Ftoy build it does share lots of things like frame mounts and bracing. The guys here have been great and as far as I'm concerned it's the best forum here for good info. I like to think I've been accepted here because when I ask questions is relates to things the forum can help me with and that I can help some on their builds with some of my 20 years of 4x4 knowledge, 10 years of which have been wheeling the rocks in Farmington NM.

....and Air Ride built the very first Formula Toyota for and with Camo. I think it's very cool that Camo set up this subforum for build discussion on these chassis!!!

Any updates, Steve??? I need to post pics, I'm actually seeing the light at the end of the tunnel!

No light at the end if my tunnel:shaking: I've been spending time getting the other Bronco ready for trips to AZ and Moab this spring. I have been working on the floors and boat sides and hope to get some pics up this week. Lots of my slush fund was spent on the little guy thats now my avatar. I was hoping to have #89 ready for a Bronco event in Moab in May, I think it will be done but it's turned into a huge pain in the ass to drive a buggy in Moab now and I don't really want to trailer everywhere. I just noticed how much of a post whore you are :^), four months less than me and more than 4,100 posts ahead of me!!

Boat sides are in now I can get the floors in.

like i said dont get me wrong its a nice build and i guess you could just look at it as just a f-toy no biggy not trying to turn this thread to all the stupid fighting that goes no in the others just getting a understanding. still a very good looking build.

Well it is an f-toy. and its not the only one without toyota running gear

it dont have toyota running gear or motor or trans or tcase or anything why i asked the question not a big deal just getting understanding just wondering its like building a zuk with toyota axles and posting it on toyota page its still a zuk dont belong on toyota forum just seeing if the f-toy people are more understanding to difs.

it dont have toyota running gear or motor or trans or tcase or anything why i asked the question not a big deal just getting understanding just wondering its like building a zuk with toyota axles and posting it on toyota page its still a zuk dont belong on toyota forum just seeing if the f-toy people are more understanding to difs.

And why wouldn't you ask about Toyota axles on the Toyota forum? Now if you were to ask about your Zuk wiring that would be diffrent, I would never ask these guys how to wire the efi on my 302. Searching and common sense goes along way in these forums.

progress? :smokin:

Been kind of slow, dogs chemo treatments have taken a chunk out of the budget. I usually do a couple of Bronco events every spring so I've had to do some work on the trail Bronco also. We're in the middle of a house refiance also once that gets done I'll have some more funds for the build.

Six months to the day and I'm back:D Dog passed away a couple of weeks ago so I got back on the project to keep my mind someplace else. The budget is still in recovery mode form his chemo treatments but it's starting to get built back up. I've been working on the floor/firewall and have a question. I'm planning on doing the foward floor/firewall in something around 16-18 ga and am wondering if I should weld it in or make it so I can remove it? I'm leaning toward welding it in.

I have all mine just screwed in, only one spot on each side are any welded in. They don't rattle cause I lined them with weather stripping. Wanted to be able to remove it and work on stuff if needed.

Six months to the day and I'm back:D Dog passed away a couple of weeks ago so I got back on the project to keep my mind someplace else. The budget is still in recovery mode form his chemo treatments but it's starting to get built back up. I've been working on the floor/firewall and have a question. I'm planning on doing the foward floor/firewall in something around 16-18 ga and am wondering if I should weld it in or make it so I can remove it? I'm leaning toward welding it in.

if you can take the time to make it removable you will appreciate it down the line. but i have seen people weld them in too. nice build:)

Damn I am ready to see if I can sell off my EB body and do this! But I want to go to Bronco Safari, etc though.....

I have all mine just screwed in, only one spot on each side are any welded in. They don't rattle cause I lined them with weather stripping. Wanted to be able to remove it and work on stuff if needed.

That's kind of what I've decided to do, I'll weld in the firewall and screw in the floor panels. Thanks for the weather strip tip, I hate rattles.

Damn I am ready to see if I can sell off my EB body and do this! But I want to go to Bronco Safari, etc though.....

The only reason I ended up doing this is because I bought another Bronco for "mild" use.:D

Sorry to hear about your dog. :(

I welded my firewall in. I couldn't really see any reason to screw it in, and I figured I'd want something solid to brace my feet--and my passengers feet--for panic stops and downhills.

I used 20ga, and welded it every ~4-5".

I haven't had to work on much yet, but don't have a lot that's not accessible from either side. Side panels, floor, and belly are all removeable.

If you do weld it, make sure you've got access to your upper bellhousing bolts.

Finished the floor/firewall mock up I've also been working on the harness and plumbing. I'm really hoping this spring I'll be out in Choke Cherry having some fun!! Money has still been tight I'm a flat rate tech and work has been slow.

Updates??

Got any Vids/Pics of this thing in action yet?

Updates??

Got any Vids/Pics of this thing in action yet?

Not yet should have the floors and plumbing done in a few weeks. I spend to much time wheeling the little Bronco, going to Big Bear for a Bronco run this week:D

Any progress on the floors, or are they still mocked up?

I see your rear floor is flat--I had to leave room for my tcase rear output, so it has a tapered tunnel that lines up with the front tunnel.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=501281&stc=1&d=1266292528

Paint job sucks, but I think my sheet metal turned out nicely!
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=501280&stc=1&d=1266292528

Not yet should have the floors and plumbing done in a few weeks. I spend to much time wheeling the little Bronco, going to Big Bear for a Bronco run this week

You don't know what you're missing.
Get the F-Bronco done, and you may never drive the "little Bronco" again!!

Going to end up with a little taper also.

The Bronco Ftoy version is getting there, it's going to move out of the garage this weekend and see daylight for the first time!!

:bounce: :bounce2:

Looks sweet. I finially got settled in at my new job and home in OK. Ill be tryin to finish mine up before spring.

Still pecking away brake lines run wiring and fuel lines next.

That's not far away from living and breathing!!! :smokin:

I love this build. Any updates?

A few updates and I'll get some pic's up during the week. My wife and I have been wanting to move back up to tha Black Hills of South Dakota (lived there in the 90's) my wife found a good job up there and has been in Rapid City working for the past two weeks so I guess I'm moving also:D We talked about moving a few years ago and I've had a open offer at the local Ford deaership since that time, so I've been busy getting the house ready to sell for the past few weeks. I've already made a few trips up there with all my projects but the F-Bronco is still in the garage so I can get some time in on it, going to take me four trips just to haul the projects up there:D Not looking forward to moving my tool box from work, it weighs about 3-4,000 pounds loaded.

Got the new shop half way set up and I've been getting back to work on the project.

where did you get the hood?

Looks like an early bronco hood.

Sabas

Yup it was a old very cheap single layer non reinforced Bronco hood that I cut up.