I have a98 tj on 42 iroks and full width 60,s,with a sbc. at the front bottom of frame im at 32 inches,thats preety good isnt, i dont see how you can go any lower, i am running 4 inches of up travel

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Thats not bad but you could definetly go lower. My tj on one tons and 40's is only 23'' to the bottom of the frame and I did nothing drastic to get it that lower just tube fenders and a comp cut.

i mean bottom of frame at front under winch if that matters, i have comp cut and tube fenders also

mine sits at 27 3/4'' at that point. so if i took into account running 42's I would be around 29'' so I imagine you could find a way to lower your another inch or two without much trouble. get some pictures.

I'm on 42's, frame height at belly was 26" but I lowered the front down about 1.5" (working on lowering the back now), don't know my bumper height but I would guess its about 29"-29.5", you seem a little high but not by much.

BTW....what they said. PICS :D

here is a pic 32 right under winch,

you could move the coilover hoops higher. Possibly bring them through the hood.

you could move the coilover hoops higher. Possibly bring them through the hood.

x2 that's what I'm doing.

Im 26 at that point, with 6 inches of up, on 14" shocks and 38's. It would be 28 with 42's. Need to finish the frame mods to get all to work.


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You shouldnt need to go through the hood for 4 inches up and a bit lower ride. Even with 16's.

what im getting at my control arm mounts on top of my pumpkin for upper link, if i get any lower after 4 inches now it would be close to bottom pulley on motor, i have a small block in it, and the front axle is movedout 4 inches.

We are building mine now and trying to maintain 23" under the belly for clearance. We will have to take the hoops through the hood I am pretty sure.

Looks like most are using 14in or 16in coilovers. Are 17s just stupid long? I found a killer deal, just not sure if 17s would allow me to maintain a decent ride height. I have no problems with cutting the hood to extend the hoops through.

whatdaya think???

Looks like most are using 14in or 16in coilovers. Are 17s just stupid long? I found a killer deal, just not sure if 17s would allow me to maintain a decent ride height. I have no problems with cutting the hood to extend the hoops through.

whatdaya think???

You can make them work, it just depends on how much modding you are willing to do in order to get all the travel out of them. Otherwise, you may just end up limiting a bit of the bottom travel.

The more uptravel you want, with a lower ride height, results in more modding required.

Axle placement, driveshaft clearence, frame notching, trackbar length, all gets more tricky the more travel you add.

I am still learning a lot. I've had to backtrack a few times with shock locations, driveshaft clearence, axle width, and frame mods.

You can make them work, it just depends on how much modding you are willing to do in order to get all the travel out of them. Otherwise, you may just end up limiting a bit of the bottom travel.

The more uptravel you want, with a lower ride height, results in more modding required.

Axle placement, driveshaft clearence, frame notching, trackbar length, all gets more tricky the more travel you add.

I am still learning a lot. I've had to backtrack a few times with shock locations, driveshaft clearence, axle width, and frame mods.

Cool. I PM another member who has a set of 17in travel Bilsteins on a YJ and he is happy with them, although he does have them limited a bit to protect the front 'shaft. I plan to install them on the front, and then later move them to the rear once I find a deal on some 14 inchers for the front.:D

I am sitting at 23" to the frame with 14" coilovers on 37" tires. I have 6" up travel at this height.

Cool. I PM another member who has a set of 17in travel Bilsteins on a YJ and he is happy with them, although he does have them limited a bit to protect the front 'shaft. I plan to install them on the front, and then later move them to the rear once I find a deal on some 14 inchers for the front.:D

I'm running 14" up front with about 6.5" up travel. I could easily deal with another 3" downtravel. You'll be fine. If I remember right you have a low pinion front so just remember that when designing you suspension.

When I got to get a look at your rig I liked the ride height. Thats why I suguested mounting the coilovers in front first. Also for the type of wheeling we do around here I think you need some room at the belly pan.

Here is pic of my rig even though you have seen it.

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P.S. If you dont want those 17in coilovers send me the info on them.

When I got to get a look at your rig I liked the ride height. Thats why I suguested mounting the coilovers in front first. Also for the type of wheeling we do around here I think you need some room at the belly pan.

Here is pic of my rig even though you have seen it.

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P.S. If you dont want those 17in coilovers send me the info on them.

There are 4 available. I am taking two. I can PM you the info if you like.

I am going to lower my ride height about 2 inches, stretch out the rear about 2 inches and stretch the front about 2-3 inches. That will make me 104-105 inches. I might go a little more in the back and shoot for 107". The tall factor is not working out here and things get tippy in a hurry, especially in Moab. I tried to climb the Rock Pile last spring and damned near went over backwards. What worked on the east coast is hurting me out here. Too short in the WB dept and too much ride height.

I'm running 14" up front with about 6.5" up travel. I could easily deal with another 3" downtravel. You'll be fine. If I remember right you have a low pinion front so just remember that when designing you suspension.

Kevin,

I do have a low pinion front and I plan to address the driveshaft angle by rolling the pinion up (it's level to the ground now), stretching the front out, and lowering the overall ride height. I think these will help the static angle, and keep wheel travel respectable. I am not looking for a ton of travel- I think too much can hurt more than it helps.

thanks for the tips! You need to load your junk up and meet us in Moab in April. We are avoiding EJS and going later in the spring during the hot rod show they do there. April 22-25

Kevin,

I do have a low pinion front and I plan to address the driveshaft angle by rolling the pinion up (it's level to the ground now), stretching the front out, and lowering the overall ride height. I think these will help the static angle, and keep wheel travel respectable. I am not looking for a ton of travel- I think too much can hurt more than it helps.

thanks for the tips! You need to load your junk up and meet us in Moab in April. We are avoiding EJS and going later in the spring during the hot rod show they do there. April 22-25

Maquest says 1075 to Moab.... maybe.

On your wheelbase comments I think you'll like 107-108 just fine. I changed from 102 to 112, stayed with 40s, and like it a lot more. 42s will help some for me

Maquest says 1075 to Moab.... maybe.

On your wheelbase comments I think you'll like 107-108 just fine. I changed from 102 to 112, stayed with 40s, and like it a lot more. 42s will help some for me

Moavb definately likes the longer wheelbase, but going too long can hurt on some of the other trails we run in CO. I guess adding rear steer is a way around this:D

Im running 14" coilovers up front, full width 60's on 42". bottom of the frame sits at 25". i have to limit the pass side up travel because the drag link hits the frame. does anyone else have this problem? and if so what did you do to correct it? this is on a tj.

You can invert the ream in the knuckle and put the draglink under. You would need to change the trackbar to match.

Or you can do a small frame notch. 3" 1/4 wall tube, cut just past half and burnt in gets you an easy and clean 1-1.5".

Or you can just notch and fill it in with plate. The "project over my head" TJ build has a nice notch and patch example.

thanks i will take a look at it.

Well I managed to pick up two new Bilstein 9100 RCS 17in shocks and two used/damaged units for a smoking price.

I measured my frame height (t-case area) and I am at 27in with the 39s aired up. By bellypan is a 3 drop so that makes it 24in from the lowest point under the belly to the ground. In comparing frame/ground clearance, I am already pretty close. It almost seems like I need to lower the frame and switch to a plate bellypan, rather than the 3in drop pan I have now.

Thats a bit high maybe. Mines 21" at the frame with 38's, and I have room for 40's easily.

Personally I would try and bring it down a bit, but it depends on what really works for you.

You can always change it up if you are unconfortable with it.

I saw a TJ today on stock wheelbase, fabcrap suspension all the way around, 37's, and it had to be 30-32 inches to the lowest frame point. This was out front of a shop....lol. Insane.

Thats a bit high maybe. Mines 21" at the frame with 38's, and I have room for 40's easily.

Personally I would try and bring it down a bit, but it depends on what really works for you.

You can always change it up if you are unconfortable with it.

I saw a TJ today on stock wheelbase, fabcrap suspension all the way around, 37's, and it had to be 30-32 inches to the lowest frame point. This was out front of a shop....lol. Insane.

That's way to high!

I am going to work on getting the frame down to 24in and go from there. I can get another bellypan cut easily so no biggie with that one. I measured 11in from the top of the front axle tube to the bottom of the frame. That can certainly come down a good 3-4 inches no problem. This will leave 7in for uptravel, but I will use only 6in.

I love the planning stuff:D