: Elementary Level question, need help nonetheless!
Cliffy [JD] 07-01-2002, 07:48 AM I'm still having a problem with my engine cutting out?? It seems to happen when I try to "get on it" even a little bit. But not all the time.
My first thought is timing. What else??
HarleyM 07-01-2002, 08:42 AM Check for a pinched or partialy blocked fuel line. It will run but if you get on it, it can cut out.
TERRA-IZER 07-01-2002, 08:53 AM I had the same problem with my scout a few years ago, it would start and idle fine and if you eased the throttle it was fine, but once you would get on it, it would cut out, I had something in the fuel tank and when it needed gas it would plug the pickup, so check your fuel tank and fuel lines, i replaced my line with 3/8" alum fuel line. And are you running a cheap regulater with the stock mech pump if so that might be the problem (i had that happen too)
ol John Henry 07-01-2002, 09:00 AM 2nd vote for cruddy gas tank & lines
or clogged accelerator pump:question:
:)
Cliffy [JD] 07-01-2002, 09:56 AM I forgot to mention. When I was having my hard starting problem, I COMPLETELY flushed the fuel tank, ran BRAND NEW fuel line, got a new fuel pump, new filter, and rebuilt the carb.
Thanks anyway guys.
Any other suggestions??
:beer:
Tydes 07-01-2002, 05:36 PM have you tried checking all of your bulk head connectors. These were loose on mine causing the engine to get a lull when accelerating.
Binderfan2002 07-01-2002, 11:26 PM What carb are you running?
Cliffy [JD] 07-02-2002, 07:26 AM Originally posted by Tydes
have you tried checking all of your bulk head connectors. These were loose on mine causing the engine to get a lull when accelerating.
When I had the hard starting problem I cleaned out the BHC as best I could and it made no improvement. I don't know how I could clean it out any better.
It seems that the BHC is the culprite (sp) in a lot of electrical problems.
Can this be eliminated or bypassed, Moved to a cleaner enviroment, anything?? It is possible that this is my problem.
I'm running a QJ. Rebuilt
Tydes 07-02-2002, 04:20 PM once you get the bulk head connector cleaned out. Take a small metal strap with holes in it, available at hardware stores. Then run this along the back of the connector and screw on each side into the metal of your bulk head. This worked for me. It holds it in place, and keeps tension on it. tydes
Buddha's Ghost 07-02-2002, 06:13 PM Originally posted by Tydes
once you get the bulk head connector cleaned out. Take a small metal strap with holes in it, available at hardware stores. Then run this along the back of the connector and screw on each side into the metal of your bulk head. This worked for me. It holds it in place, and keeps tension on it. tydes
Ask for plumber's tape or plumber's strapping.
Cliffy [JD] 07-03-2002, 06:59 AM Originally posted by Buddha's Ghost
Ask for plumber's tape or plumber's strapping.
Yeah, Yeah I know what you're talking about. I'll try it, even if it doesn't fix my problem, it's good insurance.
Thanks, I'll check back if the problem persists.:smokin:
Buddha's Ghost 07-03-2002, 07:18 AM Personally ,I don't think that's gonna solve your problem and I'd redo the wiring before I'd cobble it up with plumber's tape.( if I was even gonna go that route)
Cliffy [JD] 07-03-2002, 07:25 AM Originally posted by Buddha's Ghost
Personally, I'd redo the wiring before I'd cobble it up with plumber's tape.( if I was even gonna go that route)
Well I asked about this as my first question....and all you said was, "it's called plumbers tape"
So what can the BHC be replaced with?
Buddha's Ghost 07-03-2002, 07:33 AM Originally posted by Cliffhanger
Well I asked about this as my first question....and all you said was, "it's called plumbers tape"
So what can the BHC be replaced with?
I was replying to Tydes saying "metal strap with holes in it" Scuze the confusion.:D
You'd have to cut and put new connections on all the wires. Either standard butt connectors with shrink wrap over them (although then you can't unplug it) or quick disconnects with the insulated covering. An electronics shop might carry generic terminal plug setups also.
tsm1mt 07-03-2002, 08:39 AM Originally posted by Cliffhanger
Well I asked about this as my first question....and all you said was, "it's called plumbers tape"
So what can the BHC be replaced with?
Milspec AMP thread-together water-proof connectors. :D
...still haven't gotten around to THAT project, either...
troutbum 07-03-2002, 10:37 AM if you have checked the fuel supply, I would check the dizzy. I have run a unilite and a ignitor and had the same problem with both of them., screw bounces loose and throws the timing off just enough to miss....
Cliffy [JD] 07-03-2002, 11:21 AM GREAT IDEA Tom. How much is that gonna run me???
The thing here is that I know nothing about my distributor. (I assume that what you meant by dizzy:confused: )
All I do know is that it's a prestolite.:nuke:
So what screw are you referring to??
tsm1mt 07-03-2002, 11:25 AM Originally posted by Cliffhanger
GREAT IDEA Tom. How much is that gonna run me???
It was John Landry, the perennial attention-to-detail guy that suggested it to me.
Probably anywhere from $20-$50, depending on bling-bling you want to go.
Shoot, you could just buy a couple 7-pin RV trailer connector kits. :D
http://www.digikey.com would be a good place to look for the connectors and such.
I guess the price would also depend on whether you want to do JUST the engine connector, or if you want to do the front wiring harness, too.
Chief yelling alot 07-03-2002, 12:06 PM on the dizzy
maybe the mechanicl advance is sitcking, stuck or froze
jeenjer 07-03-2002, 12:25 PM i was having this same problem on my jeep, cutting out when i got on it. what i did was rev the engine and let it start cutting out then turn the engine off. then i took the top of the carb off and checked the bowls, they were empty. you could try this to determine if it's ignition or a fuel issue. i had a crimped fuel line on top of the gas tank.
Hammerlock 07-03-2002, 12:57 PM Originally posted by Cliffhanger
I'm still having a problem with my engine cutting out?? It seems to happen when I try to "get on it" even a little bit. But not all the time.
My first thought is timing. What else??
is this a pirate4x4 queston? you didn't give enough info to answer it anyway. "cutting out" could be caused by any number of electrical or fuel problems. more likely a carb/fuel problem since it happens when you try to accelerate.
if it was your bulkhead connector it would probably happen randomly and not just when you try to accelerate. If the mechnical advance (only) was bad it would just hurt performance but wouldn't cause the engine to stumble or cut out.
did you have this problem before you rebuilt the carb? what is your timing set at?
Cliffy [JD] 07-03-2002, 01:48 PM Originally posted by Cliffhanger
I'm still having a problem with my engine cutting out?? It seems to happen when I try to "get on it" even a little bit. But not all the time.
I am surprised everyone is leaning on the "get on it" line I dropped. Remember I also said "But not all the time"
For example I was backing into the shop (Obviously I wouldn't be "getting on it" for this manuever) I had the pedal down about 1/8 and it died on me. This doens't seem fuel related to me.
BTW~ What's up Jeremy, I was gonna call ya earlier today, but I was in a no cell service area. Talk to ya later.:flipoff2:
Cliffy [JD] 07-03-2002, 01:49 PM Honestly I was hoping that this problem was gonna be resolved when I fixed my hard starting issue. :(
troutbum 07-03-2002, 01:51 PM Originally posted by Hammerlock
is this a pirate4x4 queston?
Fawk off :rolleyes: This is the second post I have seen where you are tellin' everyone how hard core this site is...you've been here a month, don't tell others what to post until you've been here at least two. :flipoff2:
Even if it is a BB question, It still hurts a guy's pride to post over there.
Just some friendly advise, but I wouldn't be too hard core too quickly.
:beer:
Hammerlock 07-03-2002, 01:58 PM Originally posted by Cliffhanger
I am surprised everyone is leaning on the "get on it" line I dropped. Remember I also said "But not all the time"
For example I was backing into the shop (Obviously I wouldn't be "getting on it" for this manuever) I had the pedal down about 1/8 and it died on me. This doens't seem fuel related to me.
well that makes it prefectly clear :flipoff2:
i thought you were trying to say that it doesn't happen every time you "get on it".
so was it running like shit before it died or does it run smooth otherwise?
Maybe you could take it to the dealer. :flipoff2:
Cliffy [JD] 07-03-2002, 02:24 PM Originally posted by Hammerlock
well that makes it prefectly clear :flipoff2:
i thought you were trying to say that it doesn't happen every time you "get on it".
That is what I'm saying, but people have been responding with "Since I happens when you're getting on it........" I thought I'd try to calrify
so was it running like shit before it died or does it run smooth otherwise?
Runs smooth otherwise.
Maybe you could take it to the dealer. :flipoff2:
That's where I'm headed next.:flipoff2:
harkinoff 07-03-2002, 02:27 PM I'd take it to walmart's shop, but what do I know I'm just a newbie:D on the other hand I'd say carb probs, whats BEEN SAID BEFORE!!!!!!!
tsm1mt 07-03-2002, 02:32 PM Originally posted by Cliffhanger
I'm still having a problem with my engine cutting out?? It seems to happen when I try to "get on it" even a little bit. But not all the time.
My first thought is timing. What else??
OK, so what you really mean is "it happens sometimes when I "get on it" even a little bit, and sometimes when I'm not doing anything"
The way it initially read to me was "It happens when I get on it, but not every time I get on it"
So basically, at any moment, it could just up and quit? Is that what you're saying?
And you're sure it's not leaning out when you tap the accelerator and causing it to stall? Mine was doing that back once upon a time. Acc pump worked fine, but the squirters were so big it was flooding it at first, then starving it for fuel right after..
I went to back up at work and stopped, put it in R, hit the gas.. started rolling back, then it died.. rolled backwards in gear a moment, then the main jets caught up and the rear end was making gawdawful squealing noises as the motor came to life at WFO.. :D
-Tom
Hammerlock 07-03-2002, 02:33 PM Try this. Next time it dies just shut the key off and don't touch the gas pedal. Take off the air cleaner and look down the carb; Cycle the throttle and see if fuel shoots into the carb. If you still can't figure it out try www.binderbulletin.org. :flipoff2:
jeenjer 07-03-2002, 03:11 PM hey j.d. empty your pm folder and i'll give you my new number, and try looking at the bowls in the carb or even what hammerlock said, it's a good troubleshooting method.
Cliffy [JD] 07-03-2002, 04:11 PM Originally posted by tsm1mt
OK, so what you really mean is "it happens sometimes when I "get on it" even a little bit, and sometimes when I'm not doing anything"
So basically, at any moment, it could just up and quit? Is that what you're saying?
And you're sure it's not leaning out when you tap the accelerator and causing it to stall? Mine was doing that back once upon a time. Acc pump worked fine, but the squirters were so big it was flooding it at first, then starving it for fuel right after..
-Tom
Yeah, BUT ALWAYS while I'm on the gas, NEVER at idle, ( yet:flipoff2: ) or while I'm letting off the gas. I guess I misled everyone by saying getting on it. But what I meant to say is "WHILE ACCLERATING" that means accelerating like normal driving.
I guess I don't know if it's leaning out. That's a good thought, how do I check for that?
Cliffy [JD] 07-03-2002, 04:12 PM Originally posted by Hammerlock
Try this. Next time it dies just shut the key off and don't touch the gas pedal. Take off the air cleaner and look down the carb; Cycle the throttle and see if fuel shoots into the carb. If you still can't figure it out try www.binderbulletin.org. :flipoff2:
Is this how to tell if I emptied the bowels?? I will try this...thanks
Cliffy [JD] 07-03-2002, 04:13 PM Originally posted by jeenjer
hey j.d. empty your pm folder and i'll give you my new number, and try looking at the bowls in the carb or even what hammerlock said, it's a good troubleshooting method.
There was only two messages in my SENT ITEMS folder...hmmm....try again. Talk to ya later.
Hammerlock 07-03-2002, 04:56 PM Originally posted by Cliffhanger
Is this how to tell if I emptied the bowels?? I will try this...thanks
No, but if they're empty U might feel kinda hungry. ROTFLMAO.
Cliffy [JD] 07-04-2002, 08:18 AM DOH!!!..... How :emb2: ......hahahhaha:flipoff2:
jeenjer 07-05-2002, 08:30 AM Originally posted by Cliffhanger
There was only two messages in my SENT ITEMS folder...hmmm....try again. Talk to ya later.
i tried again, empty all your folders even the messages you have sent out
Cliffy [JD] 07-05-2002, 10:55 AM Originally posted by jeenjer
i tried again, empty all your folders even the messages you have sent out
Ok it should be fine now ;)
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