http://www.pirate4x4.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=10&t=013209

The above thread started by Drew brought up something I know I see all too often...

It just seems with all the terms, some people don't know what is what <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">


Is there some way we can define the following on a page here on POR (or anywhere else for that matter) to help avoid some of the confusion?

coilover, coils, leaf springs, folding shackles, double shackles, 4 link, 3 link, 1/4 eliptical, 3/4 eliptical, track bar, torque bar, etc...

I see people here all the time confuse 3/4 eliptical (buggy leaf on standard spring) with 1/4 eliptical, and confuse folding shackle (Revolver, Hypershackle, Missing Link, etc.) with double shackle (4 or 3 link with a shackle at each end of the spring), as well as confusing torque bar (rotational control) with track bar (lateral control).

Is there ary way to clear this up for people?

I nominate YOU (DeeAreEminem) to do the job. Lord knows you have enough time on your hands. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

You can start with:
-Goofy Leaf
-Buggy Leaf
-3/4 Elliptical
-1/4 Elliptical
-Double Shackle
-Folding Shackle
-3 Link
-4 Link
-Coil Spring
-Coilover
-Track Bar
-Panhard Bar
-Traction Bar
-Torque Bar

That should keep you busy for a while. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

Perfect person for the job. <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">

Way to volunteer DRM <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

I shoulda kept my yap shut <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">


If I do it, it goes on MY site, not POR <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by DeeAreEmm:
<STRONG>I shoulda kept my yap shut <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

If I do it, it goes on MY site, not POR <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

Why don't you just put it on 4x4Spot and then you can reference it like you do with the spring information that people always seem to be asking for.

maybe we should integrate that into some kind of newbie quiz, like you have to answer so many right before you can register...
we should throw 44044, wags, chevys all in there too <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">
that way they would have to know all the newbie lame questions before they can post them

DRM:

When you've got it done, let me know so I can add the link to ih8mud.com as well!!

BTW: thanks for volunteering.... <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> lololololol

That's a good idea. One of the mags got the 1/4 eliptic/3/4 elipctic mixed up this month.

DRM was this ever done?

Originally posted by 84xtracab
DRM was this ever done?


Uhhhh... NO :p

And I don't recall volunteering, only being nominated :p

Hey, while you are at it here's a few more for ya!:
camber (+&-)
caster (+&-)
toe in
toe out
bump steer
scrub radius
pinion angle
ackerman angle
included angle
thrust angle
instant center
roll center
pitch center
yaw center
c/g
anti dive
anti roll
anti squat
did I miss some?

Originally posted by DRM



Uhhhh... NO :p

And I don't recall volunteering, only being nominated :p

Shut up and take it like a man! :flipoff2:

sounds like a worthwhile project to me:flipoff2:

Alright gents, show me the money....

http://www.ih8mud.com/suspterm.html

You've got a place to put it, and I'll keep it up-to-date. However, it's time to start sending me text/descriptions for these terms and graphics as well.

I can accept ANY graphical format, and turn it into a web-format. This includes photoshop, illustrator, eps files, vector files, etc. You can either post this stuff on here, or email me direct at woody@ih8mud.com or to bswearingen@nfco.com (for big stuff)and I'll get this thing done!

(Like most projects, the initial week-two sucks, but after that, upkeep is quite easy. Figure on the page being complete around Christmas....)

Who's first???

Will this work Woody?

Panhard bar:

Rear 3 link:

Old Scout, I love how you took those diagrams out of the land rover manuals! Good example of how to do things right!

Now if they could only figure out those oil seals. Oh yeah, and the electricals. Headlights would be good....



-John

The Autozone website has a decent library of technical pics and a large terms glossary. Of course it only covers the basics (even has decrptions of caster and panhard rod!). Some pics on a few how-to's as well. Doesn't have 1/4 elliptical and other custom type stuff.

http://www.autozone.com/Library/library.html