: Images: Ladder bar, 33 gallon tank, approach angle


Hooper
07-02-2002, 11:49 AM
This first series is of my recently finished anti wrap ladder bar. It is schedule 80 steel. Mark A welded the bracket on the axle tube, welded the nuts on the end of the bars, welded the cross member to the perch, and the shackle perch to the cross member. Rick W welded the link bars together and added the fourth nut and spacer at the top end

. Heim joints at all three ends, with a double heim at the top to prevent rocking in the threads. Attached to the rear axle via 2 1/4" steel plates. Upper end is attached via shackle, bolted to a cross member made out of 2" x .125 tubing.

http://www.ihssii.org/Hooper/Images-Technical/RearUndercarriage.jpg

http://www.ihssii.org/Hooper/Images-Technical/LadderBarFullLength.jpg

http://www.ihssii.org/Hooper/Images-Technical/LadderBarShackle.jpg

This image shows the rear bracket, before I put in the lower link.
http://www.ihssii.org/Hooper/Images-Technical/LadderBarRearMount.jpg

This is a picture of the rear gas tank, angle iron, and bumper. You can also see my tow hoop. You can see how beat up the gas tank is. I'd like to figure out a skid plate for this, that would tie into the angle iron you see welded to the frame, and tie into the bumper. You can see how far the bumper is tweaked up from being drug over all the rocks and dirt. I am think aluminum plate bolted to that crossmember in the rear, but the front attachment is kind of problematical.
http://www.ihssii.org/Hooper/Images-Technical/GasTankBumper.jpg

http://www.ihssii.org/Hooper/Images-Technical/RearAngleIronSide.jpg

This is the torn rear cross member. I need to get in there and repair/reinforce that.
http://www.ihssii.org/Hooper/Images-Technical/CrossMemberTear.jpg


We were talking front approach angles, winch mounts, and RS a while back, so I snapped a picture of my front approach angle.
http://www.ihssii.org/Hooper/Images-Technical/WinchMountApproachAngle.jpg

The second image, the attached one, shows two red lines. The top line is at 60 degrees, the lower is at 45. So, I would guess my approach angle, to the front of my tow hooks, is around 58 degrees or so. Not as good as many of you, but not bad for a straight SOA on 33's.. ;)

RustoleumWhite
07-02-2002, 12:12 PM
WHO did the welding????


:flipoff2:

Scoutillac
07-02-2002, 12:18 PM
Please paint your driveline black:flipoff2:

Old Scout
07-02-2002, 12:21 PM
Single exhaust?

Hooper
07-02-2002, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by RustoleumWhite
WHO did the welding????


:flipoff2:

My sincere apologies.

Mark A welded the nuts on the ends of the link bars, and the bracket onto the axle, and the shackle perch onto the crossmember, and the crossmember to the crossmember perches.

He also welded everything else under there he could reach with his 220 mig while he was at it... ;)

Rick welded the link bars together and welded the stub on the end.



Sorry Mark. ;)

Hooper
07-02-2002, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by Scoutillac
Please paint your driveline black:flipoff2:

Yeah, I know. That is the color it came from the driveline shop. It will get tagged black/gray shortly... ;)

Hooper
07-02-2002, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by Old Scout
Single exhaust?

Nope. The driver side is outboard of the frame rail to make room for the ladder bar.

http://www.ihssii.org/Hooper/Images-Technical/MufflerDriver.jpg

The Fleckster
07-03-2002, 12:15 AM
Ummm whats with the:rainbow: rock catchers below the tubes on that rear spring over? 3 minuts with the cutting torch and thoes could be gone, grind flat, paint and win best engineering award at NWBRU (if ya have a green shirt on)

SSGTWC
07-03-2002, 05:32 AM
Originally posted by The Fleckster
Ummm whats with the:rainbow: rock catchers below the tubes on that rear spring over? 3 minuts with the cutting torch and thoes could be gone, grind flat, paint and win best engineering award at NWBRU (if ya have a green shirt on)

John, those aren't rock catchers, they're rock guards
:flipoff2:

RustoleumWhite
07-03-2002, 06:49 AM
Originally posted by The Fleckster
Ummm whats with the:rainbow: rock catchers below the tubes on that rear spring over? 3 minuts with the cutting torch and thoes could be gone, grind flat, paint and win best engineering award at NWBRU (if ya have a green shirt on)

I DO have a green shirt.... and have been all over Pat's rig.....

it WILL NOT win best enginering.... :D

Still though, it works good and pat has fun with it... do whats it matter. Besides, NWBRU doesn't have a best enginering award :flipoff2:


Incidentaly, what "rock catchers" are you refering too??? The ladder bar mounts? The old spring perchs?? If you know how to drive.. you don't hit any of the crap :D :flipoff2:

Hooper
07-03-2002, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by RustoleumWhite


I DO have a green shirt.... and have been all over Pat's rig.....

it WILL NOT win best enginering.... :D

Still though, it works good and pat has fun with it... do whats it matter. Besides, NWBRU doesn't have a best enginering award :flipoff2:


Incidentaly, what "rock catchers" are you refering too??? The ladder bar mounts? The old spring perchs?? If you know how to drive.. you don't hit any of the crap :D :flipoff2:

<pout> Now John has hurt my feelers. I don't get best engineering? Then I better get prettiest, or some other useful award. Or better yet, how about if we meet at 9am on Monday morning for the trail run and see who gets farthest up the trail? Best engineering *should* mean, strong, reliable, practical, and useful. *Most* of the stuff on my rig falls into these categories. Now, granted, I am a poor welder, so I have some *ugly* engineering, but most of it works, and works well, and gets me farther up the trail.

So, all those that don't like ugly welds, and unpolished undercarriage components, better look away, but for those who care about worthy trail rigs, follow me :D

As for rock catchers, I think he is referring to the sharp corners of the ladder bar axle brackets. I cut those back, and ground them to nice round ends that mate up nicely with the bottom of the axle. So, they no longer hang down below the axle.