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Alabamatoy
01-21-2008, 06:13 AM
The following was emailed to Cabela's Customer Service this AM. Urge everyone to do same. Check the TU corporate sponsorhip site (http://www.tu.org/site/c.kkLRJ7MSKtH/b.3094337/k.CA63/Corporate_Sponsors.htm) and hit every one on the list.

I have been a longtime customer of Cabela's. My vehicle right now has Cabela's seat covers on it, proudly proclaiming the Cabela's name. Now I discover that Cabela's is supporting Trout Unlimited as a corporate sponsor (according to the TU website). TU is trying to sue the USFS into closing the OHV trails at Tellico, in the Nantahala National Forest.

Cabela's needs to tell TU that unless it drops its support for trying to close me out of my own National Forest, the 4X4 and ATV community will begin its boycott of Cabelas. From this point forward, my Cabela's seat covers in my truck will have the Cabela's name removed, and I will not purchase anything else from Cabela's until they publicly denounce the actions of Trout Unlimited.

The only thing these Philadelphia lawyers understand is $$. So lets start putting it in terms of $$ for them. Someone needs to stir this on the ATV sites - Cabela's sells LOTS of ATV stuff.

Alabamatoy
01-21-2008, 06:22 AM
Sent to LLBean customer service:

I have been a longtime customer of LLBean. Now I discover that LLBean is supporting Trout Unlimited as a corporate sponsor (according to the TU website). TU is trying to sue the USFS into closing the OHV trails at Tellico, in the Nantahala National Forest.

LLBean needs to tell TU that unless it drops its support for trying to close me out of my own National Forest, the 4X4 and ATV community will begin its boycott of LLBean. From this point forward, I will not purchase anything else from LLBean until they publicly denounce the actions of Trout Unlimited. I will make every effort to let everyone I know in the 4X4 and ATV community that LLBean is trying to take away their access to OHV trails that belong to the public.

Next task - develop some "boycott cabela's" and "boycott LLBean" stickers to sell on the Rescue Tellico site.

s10er8
01-21-2008, 03:54 PM
Give us some email adresses.

Albin
01-23-2008, 08:02 AM
Give us some email adresses.

No e-mail address, but here's the "Contact Us" page from Cabelas: http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/community/customerservice/customer-service-home.jsp?csPage=contactus&cm_re=customerservice*left*contactus


I'm sorry to hear this, I was just getting ready to buy similiar seat covers for my PSD. Now I'm not until they change their stance with Trout Unlimited et al.

My version of the above letter:

"Sirs,

I have been a longtime customer of Cabela's and have spent a lot money with you. Now I discover that Cabela's is supporting Trout Unlimited as a corporate sponsor (according to the TU website). TU is trying to sue the USFS into closing the OHV/4x4 trails at Tellico, in the Nantahala National Forest.

Cabela's needs to tell TU that unless it drops its support for trying to close me out of my own National Forest, the OHV, 4X4 and ATV community will begin its boycott of Cabela's. From this point forward I will not purchase anything else from Cabela's until they publicly denounce the actions of Trout Unlimited.

Thank you,"

Al

LCGCherokee
01-24-2008, 07:32 AM
I also sent an email to both, i think this is a very good idea that will be looked at, only problem is that we need more people to send emails to these and other places!

McCracken
01-24-2008, 01:05 PM
"In years past I have always purchased items such as work wear, boots, camping materials and truck accessories from you. I recently learned that you are a supporter of Trout Unlimited. I'm not sure if you are aware but they have recently caused the closure of one the east coast's best four wheel drive offroad recreation areas. The Tellico ORV system is by far one of the premiere recreation areas in NC. I find it hard to believe that you support organizations that attempt and sometimes succeed at shutting down public use areas that others use. Trout fishing is not the only American past time. I am an avid angler but I also enjoy offroad recreation. I cannot continue to support your business with my money knowing that you support TU. I hope that in the future I can change my decision but as long as your support lies with them I cannot. "

Done.

Jeep07
01-24-2008, 02:06 PM
email sent.

bobtail82
01-24-2008, 03:06 PM
Sent An Email As Well
Tony

Tin Bender
01-24-2008, 03:36 PM
"In years past I have always purchased items such as work wear, boots, camping materials and truck accessories from you. I recently learned that you are a supporter of Trout Unlimited. I'm not sure if you are aware but they have recently caused the closure of one the east coast's best four wheel drive offroad recreation areas. The Tellico ORV system is by far one of the premiere recreation areas in NC. I find it hard to believe that you support organizations that attempt and sometimes succeed at shutting down public use areas that others use. Trout fishing is not the only American past time. I am an avid angler but I also enjoy offroad recreation. I cannot continue to support your business with my money knowing that you support TU. I hope that in the future I can change my decision but as long as your support lies with them I cannot. "

Done.


Very well spoken...

dell30rb
01-24-2008, 03:43 PM
emails sent to orvis, llbean and cabelas

vanguard_anon
01-24-2008, 03:50 PM
Oh yeah, I sent me email last night to cabelas.

Landslide
01-24-2008, 04:04 PM
E-mails are sent.

sick_sahara_yj
01-24-2008, 04:17 PM
i spent somewhere around 5k with cabelas last year. i sent my email, they wont get another dime of mine or my friends.

BadAssXJ
01-24-2008, 04:21 PM
To whom it may concern, I have been a Cabela's customer for 16 years, My address is at the bottom of this email, please use it to confirm my subscription and go thru my past orders I have placed. I estimate I have spent over $3000 in the past decade on fishing, hunting and boating gear from Cabela's. I would have continued to purchase from you for years to come until I recently went to Trout Unlimited website and saw that Cabela's is a sponsor of TU, Maybe your marketing team does not realize what TU is all about. It is NOT about supporting Outdoorsman, the same people that buy from you everyday. Trout Unlimited has caused a closure of Tellico OHV area near Murphy NC in Nantahala National Forest. This is Our Public land for ATV/Offroad Vehicle Recreation. I am a Avid Angler and love Trout Fishing, but I also love the outdoors no matter if I am hunting, fishing or Offroading. They have went as far as flat out lying to help get our lands closed to OHV use and I am sorry to say, I will take my business elsewhere as long as you support and finance a orginazation that attempts and succeeds of the closure of PUBLIC land.

BadAssXJ
01-24-2008, 04:25 PM
Also in Live Chat with a customer service rep at Cabela's

tnjeep
01-24-2008, 04:25 PM
Email and live chat message sent

Her the submission and response:

"Kenda: Hi, my name is Kenda. How may I help you?
J: In years past I have purchased items from your company. I recently learned that you are a supporter of Trout Unlimited (TU). I'm not sure if you are aware but they have recently caused the closure of one the east coast's best four wheel drive offroad recreation areas. The Tellico ORV system is by far one of the premiere recreation areas in NC. I find it hard to believe that you support organizations that attempt and sometimes succeed at shutting down public use areas that others use. Trout fishing is not the only American past time. I am an avid angler but I also enjoy offroad recreation. I cannot continue to support your business with my money knowing that you support TU. I hope that in the future I can change my decision but as long as your support lies with them I cannot.

TU is trying to sue the USFS into closing the OHV trails at Tellico, in the Nantahala National Forest.

Cabela's needs to tell TU that unless it drops its support for trying to close me out of my own National Forest, the 4X4 and ATV community will begin its boycott of Cabelas. I will not purchase anything else from Cabela's until they publicly denounce the actions of Trout Unlimited.

Kenda: I understand your frustration. I will forward your concern to the appropriate people for review." "

I am sending a similar message to LL bean

wheelin352
01-24-2008, 04:45 PM
i sent an email to both cabelas and costa del mar

mike

bigjerm
01-24-2008, 04:50 PM
emails sent

BadAssXJ
01-24-2008, 04:54 PM
Notice Orvis is also a sponsor of TU, they used to make a Orvis edition JEEP Grand Cherokee.

PRBJeepin
01-24-2008, 05:54 PM
sent mine
everyone sent will help!!

Jeepndel
01-24-2008, 07:38 PM
Cabela's is cautious (and thoughtful)

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I'm glad do see folks stepping up and writing letters on this. Our voice needs to be heard. But...and PLEASE do not shoot me for this, but here's another take on this.

Here's how I look at Cabela's -- they're smart. Now granted, being a sponsor of some of these groups, or having their logo hanging in the halls of Cabela's (like they do at the Reno store), sometimes gripes me. But some good ones are hanging there too.

Fact is, Cabela's ALSO supports us, hunting, fishing, and off road activities. They advertise in a wide array of magazines and venues. That is FAIR.

I've studied this to some extent. Let's take two BAD examples -- REI and Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream. Not only do they not support us, they actively OPPOSE us. Now THAT is bad. Ford, Toyota, Chevy, Zuzu, you name it and these manufacturers are NOT supporting us, and in fact in almost all cases support green groups to some extent. Yet they do not actively oppose us. So do I like it? No? Do I quit buying Jeeps or Cruisers 'cause they ain't openly sponsoring us? No. They're playing a tuff political game.

Cabela's in our on team as best they can be, and help our groups by advertising and helping out when they can. Yet they still have to play the game fair and help these groups that lean a little too far from us at times. Trout Unlimited is one BAD example in my mind these days. They've gone green. I agree.

I write for big hunting and fishing magazines and I can tell you this. Mouthy greenies out number us. And they write to editors and such whinning about us -- OHV types. I once wrote a story about buck hunting in CA where I drove my Jeep to the end of a road, hiked out to this rock pile, and hunted from this stand of rocks. Got a nice buck too. This yo-yo writes in and snivels that the magazine was promoting road hunting by running my articles. Total CROCK. But that's a greenie attitude. Intolerance is their motto.

Anyway, I guess I"m saying we should give Cabela's a chance. Write them. Talk to someone. Get the scoop -- and the whole scoop. Because from what I see, they are not AGAINST us, and that is a big one in my book. I'll be anxious to hear what you all hear back from the Corporate folks.

Del

rokspydr
01-24-2008, 07:41 PM
done

cruiseroutfit
01-24-2008, 11:49 PM
Sadly, its a lose-lose situation for Cabelas. Not only do they supposedly support TU, they do support Tread Lightly. So they are supporting both sides of the issues. Not direct foes, but in some respects they are. Regardless, I'm all for supporting your opinions and writing Cabelas and voicing them.

dieselcruiserhead
01-25-2008, 10:02 AM
I'm not writing the letter, Cabelas puts money into Tready Lightly and a bunch of programs. They sell fishing gear too, it is in their interest to keep fishing areas in good shape and preserved so fisherman and people can keep coming back there! (Just like it is in our interest to be low impact on the trails so we can keep going there)...

Like anything in life a whole lot more compliated than it looks on the skin... :rolleyes:

Jeepndel
01-27-2008, 11:32 AM
One of the things I stand by and tell folks who ask me about land use and access, is to buy ONLY from companies that support us -- us being OHV, motorized recreation -- in some form. That could be in the form of donating to raffles, being on the Association (State or Regional) newsletter as a business sponsor, running land use pages on their commercial web sites, sending money to a legal fund, SOMETHING tangible in the shape of support of access.

Now we have to be real here too, the Mom and Pop corner 4x4 store can't give like Warn Winch can. So it's not so much HOW MUCH you give, but that you do something to give something to the cause. And if they aren't doing that, don't buy from them. Period.

OH, and for each of us, that usually means finding out for oursevles if our favorite store is on the team. Just ask. Write them; ask them; look for them in newsletters and web sites (like mine).

Here's the easy part. REI does not support us and in fact have come out publicly and said they oppose us and will support ONLY muscle powered recreation. So they are totally green and totally against responsible access. Screw 'um, don't buy from them.

Now here's the tricky part. Cabela's has relationships with TU and DU and Rocky Mountain Elk -- all a big on the green side to some extent, but most of them are not against us. Cabela's also support us, the NRA and some groups that are pretty good in our favor (Tread Lightly). So they are on both sides. So here is where we learn to prioritize, I guess you would say. They are on my list to buy from; it's a matter of high up the list.

Do not hesitate to write them if you are so inclined, and let them know you will support them as along as they continue to strongly support OHV recreation.

Del

indy242003
01-27-2008, 01:24 PM
Cabelas like every other big company will put money in the hands of orginazations for maketing purposes. They were founded on the fishing and hunting community. this should not be a big surprise that they back TU and tread lightly. Most maketing departments are collecting a paycheck based on the risk assesment of money spent vs. new paying customers. This is how they determin what organazations to support. We have an uphill battle in front of us. Let's face it there are a lot more people fishing than people who wheel at Tellico. One of the biggest problems we have in our orginization is ourselves. Obey the damn rules of the OHV parks! Be polite! Be curtious! Be the enforcers of the rules! Don't turn your head! Get in someones ass! These jack asses represent us, and it's our job to keep them inline. Everyones had the urge to do the wrong thing, but just remember the organazations that would love to see us out of there are always watching and gathering ammo. Supporting and representing the off road community is 2 different things and they can't be if we hope to survive.

Jeepndel
01-28-2008, 09:38 AM
Setting up a volunteer Trail Patrol was one of the most significant things we did on the Rubicon Trail to help folks realize the importance of stay the trail and obey the rules. Yea, for sure some folks got their hackles up about it. But they were in the minority. It had to be done. It changed the whole demeanor of the trail. Outlaws moved on (out). Folks who were willing to follow the rules, stuck around and still enjoy the trail.

A Trail Patrol is one step up from just adopting a trail -- or OHV area. By having a Patrol, you elevate your investment in the future of the sport as well as our image to the outsiders. You also gain new friends in the law enforcement community.

Del

Never Monday
01-28-2008, 01:18 PM
Setting up a volunteer Trail Patrol was one of the most significant things we did on the Rubicon Trail to help folks realize the importance of stay the trail and obey the rules. Yea, for sure some folks got their hackles up about it. But they were in the minority. It had to be done. It changed the whole demeanor of the trail. Outlaws moved on (out). Folks who were willing to follow the rules, stuck around and still enjoy the trail.

A Trail Patrol is one step up from just adopting a trail -- or OHV area. By having a Patrol, you elevate your investment in the future of the sport as well as our image to the outsiders. You also gain new friends in the law enforcement community.

Del

Del,
I've approached people about doing this. I believe it's in the works or atleast a near term plan.

kbebs
01-28-2008, 03:29 PM
Setting up a volunteer Trail Patrol was one of the most significant things we did on the Rubicon Trail to help folks realize the importance of stay the trail and obey the rules. Yea, for sure some folks got their hackles up about it. But they were in the minority. It had to be done. It changed the whole demeanor of the trail. Outlaws moved on (out). Folks who were willing to follow the rules, stuck around and still enjoy the trail.

A Trail Patrol is one step up from just adopting a trail -- or OHV area. By having a Patrol, you elevate your investment in the future of the sport as well as our image to the outsiders. You also gain new friends in the law enforcement community.

Del

Sounds good Del. Glad to see you and BRC on this thread. I have been meaining to email you re. the Tellico closures since it began. I am a lifetime member of BRC and have enjoyed reading the newsletter over the years. What is BRC doing to help out with the Tellico situation? Seems like my eastcoast lifetime membership gets alot of use on the left side of the world.
TIA,
Karl Bradley

navy-jeepster
01-28-2008, 11:21 PM
BRC and UFWDA are leading the way with Southern on Tellico.

I do not have all the details, but I can tell you the the UFWDA legal counsel and BRC are in constant talks with Southern on how to approach this.
They have a game plan, and are working it like a fine fiddle.

When they have info that can be passed without damaging their case, we will post it.
I have a call with the UFWDA attorney later this week about some other issues, and will ask about this.
I will post what I can when I am done with that phone call.

Todd

kbebs
01-29-2008, 04:10 AM
BRC and UFWDA are leading the way with Southern on Tellico.

I do not have all the details, but I can tell you the the UFWDA legal counsel and BRC are in constant talks with Southern on how to approach this.
They have a game plan, and are working it like a fine fiddle.

When they have info that can be passed without damaging their case, we will post it.
I have a call with the UFWDA attorney later this week about some other issues, and will ask about this.
I will post what I can when I am done with that phone call.

Todd

Sounds great Todd-we need all the help we can get!!!
Thank you

tellicorob
01-30-2008, 07:04 AM
BRC and UFWDA have been a large part of our fight to keep the trails open. They have been at most of our recent USFS meetings, and are providing our legal council. Del has a very good piont about the Trail Patrol. We have been discussing organizing this for a while. Anyone who is interested can contact me at rob.theurer@sfwda.org with your contact info and when we organize ( hopefully this spring) I will contact you. Del also brings up a VERY important point. DO NOT pissoff the companys / organizations that are on the fence about supporting us. We need to be vocal about our cause, but in an intellegent and firm manner. It is good to state our point , but don't be abrasive. We are already sterotyped as a bunch of dumb, mudslinging, drunk rednecks. This is an image that we really have to change. The greenies are extremely vocal , we need to be more so. Letting all of the major companies that support TU know our side and how much we add to their business is a good idea. We need to be persuasive and not abrasive.

Jeepndel
01-30-2008, 07:52 AM
We need to be persuasive and not abrasive.


I love that! Persuasive and not abrasive. :smokin: Way cool quote. Can I use it? :)
Oh, and thanks for clearing up a few things about how the big national orgs can and do help us at varying places and trails across the country. Thank goodness for them (BlueRibbon, United, and others).

Del

mikebrsa
02-04-2008, 09:23 PM
here is the contact info for cabelas investor relations, may help going to someone a little higher up, sorry they didnt list an email for him, maybe someone can call and request it

Primary IR Contact
Chris Gay
Treasurer and Investor Relations Manager
Ph: 308-255-2905

dieselcruiserhead
02-16-2008, 11:40 AM
From another thread about this:

http://www.rockymountainextreme.com/showthread.php?t=51782





Response from LL-Bean

Thank you for contacting L.L.Bean regarding our sponsorship with Trout
Unlimited. We have been supporters of Trout Unlimited since 1981 and
have always had great confidence in their resource management approaches
to support sporting interests.

We were unaware of the situation between Trout Unlimited and OHV trail
issue in the Tellico watershed, and we appreciate your bringing it to
our attention. We contacted Trout Unlimited in order for us to have an
understanding of the situation, and they shared the following
information with us:

"The notice of intent against the US Forest Service is not against OHV
recreationists. The intent is to hold the Forest Service to its legal
duty to abide by water quality laws, both federal and state, and to
abide by its own established regulations. Trout Unlimited did not choose
to file the notice of intent on the spur of the moment, it was the only
remaining alternative after years of fruitless, exhaustive negotiations.
The number of trail miles in the Tellico watershed vastly exceeds the
trail miles that were established under the FS management plan for that
area, in addition to the national standards for trail density. The
current trail miles are more than double the mileage allowed under the
current forest plan for the Nantahala and Cherokee Forests. I am sure
many of those trails were cut in by people who aren't responsible OHV
recreationists. The FS turned a blind eye while new trails were
illegally built without an inclusive, public process for comment and
engagement to discuss these dramatic changes to the original plan.

This watershed is also one of the last remaining brook trout populations
in NC and TN that was rated as having significant surviving populations
by the Eastern Brook Trout Joint Venture in their Status and Threats
report on eastern brook trout. I'm sure there is a way that we can all
work together to solve this situation where we can eliminate the threat
to the water quality and trout populations, while at the same time
providing OHV recreation. They have recently measured sediment loads in
these streams at levels 500-1,000 times higher than similar streams in
reference watersheds nearby. Some areas with trails right next to the
stream were contributing 59 tons of additional sediment per year, which
drastically affects trout reproduction and survivability."

L.L.Bean is fully committed to the sporting interests of our customers,
and we offer charitable contributions to non-profit organizations to
help advance those interests. While L.L.Bean does not have a position
in this matter, we continue to be confident in their approach.

We appreciate your taking the time to contact us. You are a valued
customer and your opinion is important to us. We hope you will allow us
to be of service to you in the near future.

yjwith60s
02-16-2008, 07:01 PM
The notice of intent against the US Forest Service is not against OHV
recreationists.
It's not? Then why is the ohv area the only one effected?

Trout Unlimited did not choose
to file the notice of intent on the spur of the moment, it was the only
remaining alternative after years of fruitless, exhaustive negotiations.
Not according to the forrest service employees I have talked to, it has only been a short while.

The number of trail miles in the Tellico watershed vastly exceeds the
trail miles that were established under the FS management plan for that
area, in addition to the national standards for trail density. The
current trail miles are more than double the mileage allowed under the
current forest plan for the Nantahala and Cherokee Forests. I am sure
many of those trails were cut in by people who aren't responsible OHV
recreationists. The FS turned a blind eye while new trails were
illegally built without an inclusive, public process for comment and
engagement to discuss these dramatic changes to the original plan.
I thought it wasn't against the ohv people??

I have got to be honest, while I don't post much, mostly lurk, I feel like I have lost a family member. I drive 11 hrs there and go or went quite often. It is a family outing for us, we do more than just wheel and we help the retail sales alot when there. I have had an opinion on whats going on there but sometimes not great at expressing myself but I will try.
In my opinion it's a bottom line thing, tu knows the income of the ohv area it's public record. tu files charges knowing the forrest service does not have the money to fight and will just cave. I think it's done but I can only hope not. Also people say lets work with them and that would be my first thought but in thinking when has any grreeny orginization worked with any body? and why bitch about sediment now what about when the dozers and such were logging it thats how the trails were made. Thats their move they roll in and if the fs is not willing to try and call their bluff it's over. I think we should go there take pics of the road that runs right next to the river from the tenn side of the oil spots and rubber marks and how the other side of the road is a cliff and pics of trash and crappy camsite areas and find string in the water and file similar charges but say its not against the fisher people we are worried about the fish. That road has hundreds of cars on it parked during heavy fishing times. And from the Murphy side the sediment loads are to much and shut it down. soory I am just pissed over this, I mean how far is it going to go? Have you ever heard of someplace making people stop hunting or fishing or birdwatching so we can have room to wheel? Thats what the greeny org. do , BRC, united, southern and such orginizations are not out to close anything. I have tried to call tu a few time and they have many people working there and many phone lines due to the corporate backing, I was expressing my concern for the oil and rubber etc. washing into the water in tellico and they hang up. we need to start asking big companies in our business to step up with some backing. It's like the guy in Moab who bought dumpbump and Lions Back and closed them. Utah sold it for money for their schools and thats cool but the guy who bought it owns a hotel in town so we gave him most of the money to buy it. We should boycott his hotel, I will never go there. Enough is enough we can police our own hobby .anyway sorry so long rant OFF just a few questions.

With their years of trying to do something in tellico has tu or the fs ever contact the club that does all the trail work asking what they are doing or with any concerns?
Why didn't one of the 4wd orginizations run a similar add in the papers of the mud hole after being repaired? I mean you couldn't even tell where it was. They seen the mud hole and thats what gave the their hardon so they ran it in papers all over the area.
Has any of the 4wd org. tried to contact any big 4wd companies or manufactures for corporate backing? Or even SEMA they fight alot more things than most know, even if they can't help maybee some advice. They have stopped the clunker laws everyyear and things like that.
Why if they are worried about fish population dont they slow down on fishing?
I was told but a ranger most of the ohv money funds the fish hatchery so why has the hatchery not been brought up when the talk abouy fish poulation and will they be under funded now?

Albin
02-19-2008, 06:49 AM
Got an e-mail from Cabela's this morning:


Thank you for contacting Cabela’s regarding our support of conservation and advocacy groups. This support includes conservation organizations such as Trout Unlimited, as well as advocacy groups like Tread Lightly, which states as its mission “to proactively protect recreation access and opportunities in the outdoors.”



As a retailer focused on the outdoors and outdoor sports, it’s our policy to support the organizations that protect our outdoor heritage, a heritage that includes, among many other passions, both trout fishing and responsibly enjoying off-highway vehicles. We provide backing for these and other organizations to ensure the pastimes our customers – and we – enjoy are protected.



Because of customers’ concerns regarding the Tellico/Nantahala access issue, we’ve been in contact with both TU and our friends at Tread Lightly and other OHV organizations, encouraging all parties to come to an agreement that protects the watershed while providing responsible access for OHV enthusiasts such as yourself.



Again, we appreciate you contacting us to voice your concerns and thank you for your continued business. We look forward to serving your outdoor recreation needs for many years to come.



David Draper

Corporate Communications

Cabela's Inc.

LCGCherokee
02-19-2008, 08:51 AM
Thank you for contacting Cabela’s regarding our support of conservation and advocacy groups. This support includes conservation organizations such as Trout Unlimited, as well as advocacy groups like Tread Lightly, which states as its mission “to proactively protect recreation access and opportunities in the outdoors.”



As a retailer focused on the outdoors and outdoor sports, it’s our policy to support the organizations that protect our outdoor heritage, a heritage that includes, among many other passions, both trout fishing and responsibly enjoying off-highway vehicles. We provide backing for these and other organizations to ensure the pastimes our customers – and we – enjoy are protected.



Because of customers’ concerns regarding the Tellico/Nantahala access issue, we’ve been in contact with both TU and our friends at Tread Lightly and other OHV organizations, encouraging all parties to come to an agreement that protects the watershed while providing responsible access for OHV enthusiasts such as yourself.



Again, we appreciate you contacting us to voice your concerns and thank you for your continued business. We look forward to serving your outdoor recreation needs for many years to come.



David Draper

Corporate Communications

Cabela's Inc.

MT4Runner
02-19-2008, 11:50 AM
Wow!!

Thanks to Del for some well-reasoned comments.

Maybe we should remember we can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. Write to the "middle-of-the-road" outfits like Cabelas, simply to let them know we're paying attention. A thank-you to Cabelas for advocating a balanced position would be in order.

tnjeep
02-19-2008, 05:19 PM
Got an e-mail from Cabela's this morning:


Thank you for contacting Cabela’s regarding our support of conservation and advocacy groups. This support includes conservation organizations such as Trout Unlimited, as well as advocacy groups like Tread Lightly, which states as its mission “to proactively protect recreation access and opportunities in the outdoors.”



As a retailer focused on the outdoors and outdoor sports, it’s our policy to support the organizations that protect our outdoor heritage, a heritage that includes, among many other passions, both trout fishing and responsibly enjoying off-highway vehicles. We provide backing for these and other organizations to ensure the pastimes our customers – and we – enjoy are protected.



Because of customers’ concerns regarding the Tellico/Nantahala access issue, we’ve been in contact with both TU and our friends at Tread Lightly and other OHV organizations, encouraging all parties to come to an agreement that protects the watershed while providing responsible access for OHV enthusiasts such as yourself.



Again, we appreciate you contacting us to voice your concerns and thank you for your continued business. We look forward to serving your outdoor recreation needs for many years to come.



David Draper

Corporate Communications

Cabela's Inc.

Got the same email this morning

250f4life
02-19-2008, 10:04 PM
You better be a brave soul with a big ass gun to to volunteer as trail patrol up there. I am as respectful as anyone and respect authority as much as possilbe but some of those folks that come outta those hills don't give a dam. But then again maybe as a group it could be a good thing. Maybe wait till they around alot of people then comfront them about the issue.

GSW
02-21-2008, 07:53 AM
You better be a brave soul with a big ass gun to to volunteer as trail patrol up there. I am as respectful as anyone and respect authority as much as possilbe but some of those folks that come outta those hills don't give a dam. But then again maybe as a group it could be a good thing. Maybe wait till they around alot of people then comfront them about the issue.

Agreed. The best option in those situations would be to grab your camera and get to snapping. "Hey man, that rig is badazz! How are you able to drive off the trail like that? You must have super powers!" and so forth and then just hand the pics over to the Rangers. Of course, that assumes that they will then follow through and issue citations when necessary.

tellicorob
02-21-2008, 01:57 PM
The trail patrol is only an extension of what a lot of us are already doing. We won't be able to write citations. If you see some asshat being stupid you go and talk to them. Our new motto needs to be: be persuasive not abrasive. You don't need to start the conversation by loosening someones teeth. Be nice, explain that their actions are part of what will get the area closed. Explain about the battle we are in right now. Take your pictures, but be discreet. If they still want to be asshats, let them go on it's not worth getting into a gunfight or anything foolish.

jeeper05
02-29-2008, 09:13 AM
OK so the greenies are posting info that includes the fact that retailers such as Cabellas and LL Bean support them which in essence they do however they also support us.So are we as a group posting a list of our supporters such as Cabellas and LL Bean in the letters and information we publish it seems turnabout is fair play and according to the reply emails I saw they do claim to support us as much as they support tu.Just a thought.

msmoke
03-02-2008, 09:58 PM
The reference number for your question is '080302-004976'.