I have this Idea brewing inside my head and anytime that I try to explain it to someone they either look at me like i'm retared or if i'm talking to them on the phone there is this akward silence..... Anyhow, i'm not even going to try to explain what i'm wanting to try but maybe if I can have ya'll help me find what i'm looking for then maybe it will make alot more sense. What i'm looking for is some way to mount a radius arm to a stock ford d44 axle mount. I've seen people use the factory arms with mixed results so I don't even want to try to "modify" a stock arm. Surely there is something out there that has allready been tried and tested that would work? Also, something that has the ability flex without binding would be a good thing as well. Anyhow, if i'm lost in the forest and need to change my route of thinking just tell me and I can do that as well. Let er rip!

check out james duff, that will give you some clues, they have some nice radius arms, and that was what I was going to do, but went with new axles and 3 link. My old radius arm setup flexed quite well, and one side was wristed to help the flex

After looking at the Duff pieces I don't think they will quite work for what i'm wanting to do but the piece that bolts to the C's that the arm itself bolts to is excactly what I need. Guess I should have looked at em alot closer?!?!?! Thanks for the smack in the face. Sometimes that is all that is needed. BTW, where bouts you from in Neb.?

Your post/description makes almost no sense...which might be where the confusion is coming from. But if you like the duff arms, cage makes/sells them as well.
http://secure.yisi.net/cageoffroad/images/F2F1_100.jpg

EDIT;

My lame-assed attempt at humor was poorly timed, and even more poorly executed. It was SUPPOSED to be a response to shadowgames' location. Since he and I are in the same club. However, a couple of folks posted in between his post and my creaky brain fart. And it bothered me every time I came back to read this thread.

For the sake of thread content, and the good of all humanity, I have chosen to do the right thing, and make it go away.

I must have been suffering from a contact high! Wow that really didn't make any sense huh? LOL Anyhow, I did figure out what I was trying to accomplish so I guess it worked somehow. UH, thanks everyone :smokin:

Your post/description makes almost no sense...which might be where the confusion is coming from. But if you like the duff arms, cage makes/sells them as well.
http://secure.yisi.net/cageoffroad/images/F2F1_100.jpg


whats the web address for those radius arms

whats the web address for those radius arms

just right click on picture and it will give you the web address

but here ya go anyways :)

http://www.cageoffroad.com/

You can build them for a lot less than what them cage arms cost and they work just as well. I have less than $100 in mine with Currie Johnny joints.

pic of mine on a YJ...gasp. Actually before they were tottaly done.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/1bgdog/DCP01655.jpg

All I really want is the part that the arm itself bolts to.

All I really want is the part that the arm itself bolts to.

do you want to buy just the wedge?

do you want to buy just the wedge?

Just buying the wedges would help my brother out. Can you do that?

ill check my pick o pile o parts later, i retube a HP44 awhile back and i think i kept the tube, there fore id have some CAST wedges.

http://secure.yisi.net/cageoffroad/images/F2F1_100.jpg

I was talking about the "C"s that these arms bolt to. If we could buy just this part that you can see in this picture we could make the rest of the arm.

Yeah, just the part that bolts over the C's that are welded on the axle and the arm bolts to that. That is all I really wanted. I never realized that it was a seperate piece. That is all that I was looking for. Wow, my first post made absolutley zero sense! I sent an email to Duff and Cage, waiting to hear back from them both.

I remember running across a site that sold the rear fabricated C's for the dana 44's so you could make your own arms but now i cant find the site or remember where i saw it. Damn it.

That would be awesome! THINK THINK THINK!

I remember running across a site that sold the rear fabricated C's for the dana 44's so you could make your own arms but now i cant find the site or remember where i saw it. Damn it.

Most of them are nothing but a ford radius arm (that can be had anywhere) with the arm cut off and the "C" plated. It's about as simple as it gets. .5" plate fills in the arm/c then plate over it with whatever.
I don't see the point of it though? It could maybe help out with caster adjustment, but otherwise, why?

And I'm not sure I'm getting you still. Just fwiw, here is a stock ford radius arm--the "C" is not a separate piece.

http://classicbroncos.com/img/radiusarms6.jpg

:edit: If you do it right, a modified stock arm will work just as well as a duff/cage arm--only for 1/5 the price. Search the ford forums for ideas.

Scroll about half way down

http://www.jamesduff.com/eb/suspension_components.html

What is "cast of ductile steel"?Is this a metal that can be welded to? By that I meen like a "mild" steel not cast like the factory ones. Do these bolt on in place of the side with the arm?

http://www.jamesduff.com/images/eb/c-caps.jpg

Exact reproductions of stock caps, cast of ductile steel. Combine with our Radius Arms and Axle Wedges and you can put a Dana 44 or 60 under just about anything! Come bare.

#5341 Radius Arm C-Caps, pair, $85.00

yeah that is the front cap. I swear i ran across a fabricated steel rear c somewhere. Looked like it was made of 1/2" plate, i remember saying to myself "damn i need to remember this cuz i will need to get those one day..."

But obviously my memories will do neither me or anyonelse any good without the product so...

Can two fronts bolt together on one side?

Edit: They can but these Jamse Duff ones are still cast so that doesn't help my brother in any way.

Can two fronts bolt together on one side?

Edit: They can but these Jamse Duff ones are still cast so that doesn't help my brother in any way.

They're cast steel. Of course you can weld to them just fine. I don't understand why you would want to bolt two together though. It sounds like you're trying to make a link out of them that is the exact same thing as a ford radius arm but weaker and far more expensive. I also don't understand...you can find people that will give you a set of radius arms, yet you're looking at paying $170 for four caps?
Take a step back and think about it all for a second...

This is what I did a few years back...

http://home.earthlink.net/~pigie/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/catradius.jpg

They're cast steel. Of course you can weld to them just fine. I don't understand why you would want to bolt two together though. It sounds like you're trying to make a link out of them that is the exact same thing as a ford radius arm but weaker and far more expensive. I also don't understand...you can find people that will give you a set of radius arms, yet you're looking at paying $170 for four caps?
Take a step back and think about it all for a second...

My brother has these on his Cherokee. He had the Ford Radius arms cut with a tube welded in with a joint on the tube at the frame. This was fine untill the cast part of the radius arm broke near the welded on tube. Welding it may have created a week spot, although it did not break on the weld. He does not want to weld to anything cast anymore. Some people may be able to weld to cast successfully but he nor I have what we need to do it(in equipment or know how). So if the caps from Duff had ben made of a mild steel he might could have bought 1 pair and may his on radius arms and bolted them in place. However the Duff cups are cast so this will not work. Factory Ford arms are shaped wrong in stock form and will not work for him. He is on a very tight budget so buying those arms pictured above are out of the question. So is retubing it. He maybe looking for an earlier modle axle with welded on wedges to swap is gears and locker into. He can cut of the wedges and attach what ever suspension he wants. It sucked typing all of this so I hope I don't have to explain my questions anymore just to get a simple answer.

My brother has these on his Cherokee. He had the Ford Radius arms cut with a tube welded in with a joint on the tube at the frame. This was fine untill the cast part of the radius arm broke near the welded on tube. Welding it may have created a week spot, although it did not break on the weld. He does not want to weld to anything cast anymore. Some people may be able to weld to cast successfully but he nor I have what we need to do it(in equipment or know how). So if the caps from Duff had ben made of a mild steel he might could have bought 1 pair and may his on radius arms and bolted them in place. However the Duff cups are cast so this will not work. Factory Ford arms are shaped wrong in stock form and will not work for him. He is on a very tight budget so buying those arms pictured above are out of the question. So is retubing it. He maybe looking for an earlier modle axle with welded on wedges to swap is gears and locker into. He can cut of the wedges and attach what ever suspension he wants. It sucked typing all of this so I hope I don't have to explain my questions anymore just to get a simple answer.

Just look for a leaf sprung HPD44 I was tired of my "c's" also, so I found a leaf sprung HPD44 and am building a 3 link out of it. Problem solved, is that answer simple enough for you.

is that answer simple enough for you.

Yes it is. This is why he may go to an earlier madel.