well here is step one, post on pirate. this is my project 1962 scout 80. so here are some pics try again with pics thanks for the hint

bout time noooooooob..........

glad to see the war pony gettin some airtime dan. keep us posted

still trying to get going on thread

did you make or buy that err hoist dealio?

thats some old rack from junk i had ,its just for lifting the body on and off. i was trying to post more pics but sumn was a miss.

can anyone tell me how to post more pics?

can anyone tell me how to post more pics?

Are you linking your pictures from another site or attaching them?

If from another site, click on properties, copy and paste the URL address, then put before the URL and after the URL.

Or click on manage attachments when replying and add pics.

Make sense?
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thanks i must be doin somn wrong ,do i need to post new thread each time? thats the only way to get manage attach. to come up.

For an existing post use your edit button, then go advance. From there you should be able manage attachments again. You should be able to download about ten pictures at a time.
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i took the frame down to nothing and started from scratch . i used two engine stands to put the frame on a rotisery of sorts it helped to get to everything for removal . now ading new stuff, spring puches body/cage mounts etc.

I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't seen this, it's at the very bottom of the forum index.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/gallery/

Upload and link with the [img] tags.

did you make or buy that err hoist dealio?

Harbor Freight has those too.

im runin a dana 60 high pin front dana 70 rear . want to go cummins 4bt 6bt, autotrans. its going to take lots of birthdays and xmass gifts to getr done.my budy; rockthedog is giving me a hand he posted some Qs about scouts. I need to start calling him starbucks, he got me adicted and now wait!

looking good dan.......did you take any pics with the axels in? ........what was the wheelbase we measured?



wheres my tire........ did you set it on fire to keep you warm in the shop? :)

Yes it has been cold in the shop, and I am out of propane. your tire is safe ,its a good referance for me . The wheel base now is aprox 105.5 maybe 4 more inches out back. The front axle is way forward. I have a few more pics in the camera, try to get them on soon. I was working on the front bumper a bit, got the light holes in not mounted yet I didnt like the first set of brakits so I will do over.

Harbor Freight has those too.

I was going to just get some friends to help me lift my body off but that would be nice to have.. off to HF to look ;)

Hmmm lil pricey and I don't know how much the body weighs..

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=94831 $500

Lil better one at northern tool but shipping would be fun. Time to make one I guess.
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Brandon,

The body isnt that bad for a couple guys. When I did my body lift years ago the hard part was breaking it all free of the decades of rust. I bought a 4x4 adn cut it into 4-6" sections and jacked the body up and used them as wedges.

After that it was a 3-4 person job but 2 of us did it since that was all we had.

hey Brandon, its just 3 inch chanle with some half inch holes i also used my engine hoist for the back. i put a spreder bar bolted at the tail gate latch/hook plate. works prety well when you are by your self

here is the bumper I am working on

and also side bars

My Uncle is leting me use his hossfeld bender, so I hope to start on the cage soon. Not quite done with the plan. The engine may be coming down to the Isuzu 4bd2tc , insted of cummins 4bt. too hard to find and I have the Isuzu.The rough part is my front dif, is driver side . I will need to deal with starter and exaust

I have a dana 70 rear... drum brake. dose any one know of a Ford disc conversion, ? I would like to keep it same as front

Awesome work on your rig. Keep it up.

some pics ,front bumper . cut outs for some 6" IPF lights, still working on the pic points

some pics ,front bumper . cut outs for some 6" IPF lights, still working on the pic points

the rough out of the build down for shackle reversal

Winch???

not sure "winch" I plan to have a winch but not yet.

dan, do you meen witch wench, or which winch or what? :)

lookin good !

yes rockthedog , I am now burning your tire to the heat the shop:flipoff2:

hey dan you are gonna have to pull my dads puny little 38" sx off there and come try on my 39.5 irock so you can see what a real tire will look like on there.:D

hey dan you are gonna have to pull my dads puny little 38" sx off there and come try on my 39.5 irock so you can see what a real tire will look like on there.:D

I'm sure that 3/4" will make all the difference!

I'm sure that 3/4" will make all the difference!


i would have said the same thing NV, but thats an inside joke between my son and i that he got 39.5 iroks before me.......... they do look enormous next to my sx's.

38.5 SXs don't measure that, IROKs are closer so the difference is probably 2" or more.

i would have said the same thing NV, but thats an inside joke between my son and i that he got 39.5 iroks before me.......... they do look enormous next to my sx's.

Don't mind me. I've just a homogay web wheeler whois deeply imbittered at everybody elses time to wrench on their rigs while mine sits :D:D:D

Hey mangler, You bring that new tire on over and we will check it out. now that I used your Dads tire for shop fuel, there wont be any thing in the way :grinpimp:

i would have said the same thing NV, but thats an inside joke between my son and i that he got 39.5 iroks before me.......... they do look enormous next to my sx's.

Any chance we could get a picture of them side by side? I plan to get 39.5 Irocs if they are way bigger :D

bumper brackets, 2x3x.250 angle, 1.75x.120 tubing and some 10 gauge plate.

about an hour later with my 4.5 Dewalt plasma cutter

wow dan that aint no booty fab!

this is exactly why ive been after you to build a rock crawler .........
you got mad skills!

i would say YES about using that as your bracket:)

i'll see about getting a side by side of those tires asap.....they are in two different locations across town from each other

thanks Glenn, Tell Clint to come by with the tube he has and we can try to do it for him. And bring his new badass tire we will post a side by side pic.

Dayum, that's some nice fab work:smokin: Can't envision how they're going to be used, looking forward to seeing. Wish I had the skills/patience to do stuff like that

thanks Glenn, Tell Clint to come by with the tube he has and we can try to do it for him. And bring his new badass tire we will post a side by side pic.

i still waiting for my wheels to get here. should be here by the end of the week.

i still waiting for my wheels to get here. should be here by the end of the week.


Sweet :smokin:

clint, Is this the longest week ever? Hope it gets here soon.

looks like it will be another week.the powder coater for allied is backed up.

well it will be nice when it gets here

bumper brackets inside and outside frame

I am waiting to cap the ends of the bumper till I dove tail the front

that sure is a fawkin purdy bumper mount!!! :smokin: nice fab work, interested to see the rest of the buid!

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Tanks IHblarp, It's gona take some time . I don't have much of. just doin some here and there.

looks good dan........when you gonna finnish weld the plates under the brackets?............

Hey Glenn, I had some shop time today. pulled the body off again,with my" Harbor Freight dillio" boxed in body/cage mounts and welded the plates you speek of. I will try to get the wheels back under her tomorrow.

back on all fours

that is one clean frame..

How do you plan on painting it? I mean what are you going to use?

I think its called por 15 or somthing like that

I've heard that is only good if your actually Painting Over Rust, I figure I'll use some sort of epoxy paint like they use on machinery or something or other. If your gonna go to that extent ya might as well make it look clean I figure.

it was a budy who told me about that product i will need to look into it in the mean time it will prob rust up on the surfice a bit

it was a budy who told me about that product i will need to look into it in the mean time it will prob rust up on the surfice a bit



that is the cleanest 40 something frame i've ever seen ......keep up the good work dan

thanks Glenn, Its as old as I am! But its much cleaner.:grinpimp:

Today my budy Glenn stoped by and we got a bit done on the front , we cut 10" out of the nose and dovetaild in the fenders. I am trying to keep the inner fenders intact. It would have been easier to cut them out but I would like to keep them.

Today I played with the hood, WOW! that part is tough. I started with ,a not so straight hood so i'm not going to feel so bad if I botch it, but this is a job.

your bumper looks MONSTEROUS next to that dovetail job :p

Hood looks pretty good, I think most people just cut the sides.

Hey Brandon, Ya the bumper will need to be cut a bit, thats why I didn't cap the ends yet. the hood is going to take some time to hammer out. Howd you do on your house this weekend?

Hey BLK scout 800 wanted a side by side pic of tires

Those 38's look a bit worn and still the same or slightly bigger than the 39.5s. This is about what I've seen in the past.

so how do you jokers (Damien :flipoff2:) figure the 39.5 are so ginormous?

Looking good Dan. Yea, the hood was a real bitch for me too. I narrowed mine 10"s front and rear, and drop the nose down 2"s. Should be able to paint it this weekend. Doug
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Hey Doug , I was looking at your latest pics looks like you are readey to paint. I did my hood a little dif than yours , I should have looked at it sooner. never the less it is what it is. I am trying to keep iners but they may come out. I like the bay bars you did. What size mat. did you use?

All the tubing is 2" .120 wall. Rocker guards are 4x2x.120. One of the main reasons I cut mine down was to try and lighten it up. I weighed it in Dec. after I put the front 60 in. With all my gear in it, 36 gallons of fuel, and without me in it, it weighed in at 5900#'s. That was my reason for removing my inner fenders, heater, ect. Once I get it back together I'll weight it again. http://sonic.net/~rgmadm/winecountryrockcrawlers.org/index.php?option=com_copperminevis&Itemid=43&place=displayimage&album=71&pos=27

Honestly, you need to take pictures of those tires standing right up against each other. And the second shot of them is looking down at them, giving a visual effect of them being the same size.

Honestly, I'm interested to see how different they really are if you get eye-level and put those two together. Right now the difference looks slight, but I have a hunch when you ptu them together, iti'll be more like an inch or more.

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Doug, love the look of your scout man. Very cool!

Hey snoopy, Sorry about the bad pics , CSI called wanted their macro lenz back. I will try to get new pics when mounted , then the dif would be more prevalent. But thanks for the input snoody I mean snoopy!

HA! ~ cha cha cha cha....

Guess I should have used a ;)

Hey BLK scout 800 wanted a side by side pic of tires

Thanks I bought a set last week and plan to mount them up on sunday. I'll post a pic or two ;)

hey dan where are the pics of your rig on my tires that we took friday night.

:grinpimp:hey mangler, I used up all my shop credits Friday , had to wait till today.

Look'n good!

looks good dan.........clint and i had a blast at the shop that night . now it's time to trim the bumper and cap it.

Nice!

Thanks guys, I am looking at the back now. Doug dove tailed the back of his rig and it looks good. I need to study it a bit and see if it can be done on mine . I think Doug had a set of qtr panles to work with.

Yes, I had another scout that I took the rear qtr panels off of. The old ones were way to dented to try and straighten. I did make it easier to cut and narrow the rear though. If you have any questions Dan, feel free to ask. If you're up this way, your more than welcome to come by and take a look at it. Doug http://sonic.net/~rgmadm/winecountryrockcrawlers.org/index.php?option=com_copperminevis&Itemid=43&place=displayimage&album=71&pos=74
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Thanks Doug, Don't Know when I could get out that way but it mite be worth the trip to check out your rig and pic your brain. I don't think Joey would translate to well.:D

I am thinking of cutting the fenders, in such a way to move the stock flair up and forward 4". Dose anybody have an opinion on this ? The reason for this is, tire clearance. I did move the axle 4" forward.

go to a buddies shop to help him wrench and all he's got is a claw hammer and a crescent wrench..............:)

little inside joke.....

anyway, wish we could do a photoshop on that idea dan. i still think you should just cut m hi n tight,....... :)

dang.....:smokin::smokin:

war pony, The front bumper could be trimmed down some more...it's kinda out of proportion now that the front is even smaller.
What's in store for the rest of the drivetrain?
That engine bay is pretty cramped to start off with. Inquiring minds want to know... :evil:

Hey guidolyons, Yes the bumper needs to be cut back now. I was waiting to dove tail to see how much, thats why the ends are not caped yet. I need to get some more "shop credits" to get out and work on it again. Its my wifes B D month, so I need to be carefull not to seem to into my fun .... ya know. The eng. I plan to use is 4bd2 Isuzu. The same as the YJ guy, I think I saw you pop in on that thread. axles Dana 60 front Dana 70 rear and thinking about 700r4 trans. I have been watching his build because of that motor.Mine is still in the truck . Its all about time. Gota find some of that:p

Hey guidolyons, Yes the bumper needs to be cut back now. I was waiting to dove tail to see how much, thats why the ends are not caped yet. I need to get some more "shop credits" to get out and work on it again. Its my wifes B D month, so I need to be carefull not to seem to into my fun .... ya know. The eng. I plan to use is 4bd2 Isuzu. The same as the YJ guy, I think I saw you pop in on that thread. axles Dana 60 front Dana 70 rear and thinking about 700r4 trans. I have been watching his build because of that motor.Mine is still in the truck . Its all about time. Gota find some of that:p

Yeah I've been following along on the Izuzu NPR 4BD2 jeep swap...just taking notes for now.

Yeah... I know what you mean about no time/no money/shop credit :( Gotta make momma happy, 'cause if momma ain't happy....nobody's happy.:evil:

ok dan here's a pic for your thread. met a scout dude today at prarie city. name is craig

ok one of me too

hi-jaCK OVER:flipoff2:

Hey Glenn thanks for the pics, So thats what I am building this rig for. Now it makes more scents:D

Diesel, sounds cool. Your build is looking good too:smokin:.
That's my Scout II above, that Glen snap a photo of..

For bare metal, use some epoxy primer. I use Lesonal (http://www.lesonal.com/lesonal/)brand as that's what they sell at the auto paint store. It's white. sticks real good. I just used some this weekend on my top, can't tell in the pic, but it's topless.

Craig

this is a sweet build man im building a 800 with 3/4 axels and 350 and 350 turbo i think mine will set about two inches lower than yours though

Nice work just trim that bumper down some and you'll be good 2 go :)

Thanks for all the tips guys, Today I got a bit carried away,

WOW:eek:

I LIKE IT DAN:smokin:


now if you can do the other side to match:laughing:

Looks good lets see it with the tire in there :smokin:

Your right Glenn, Match the other side I think my mind is wrighting checks my skills my not be able to cash! :eek: I can't put a tire in unless mangler would let me have my way with his tires again :grinpimp:

ic ic............


I took me some time, but I was able to get the other side to match on mine :beer:

Thanks BLK Scout, for the links looks great! Quite a progression.

WOW :eek: that's a lot of bodywork chopping and sectioning fender, narrowed hood, ect. It's gonna suck the first time you smash one into a tree/rock :flipoff2:

WOW :eek: that's a lot of bodywork chopping and sectioning fender, narrowed hood, ect. It's gonna suck the first time you smash one into a tree/rock :flipoff2:

your right, but that would suck any way . Building it is 90% of the fun.... the other half is wheeling:D

hey dan, i have a 15" 8 lug beadlock wheel at my house. we could mount that 38 on and you could test fit that. you might have to take the caliper off so the wheel clears.

sounds good to me mangler , but we should ask your dad first.

WOW :eek: that's a lot of bodywork chopping and sectioning fender, narrowed hood, ect. It's gonna suck the first time you smash one into a tree/rock :flipoff2:


It will still look good smashed too. I like how it keeps the fender profile, at some point you would just have a buggy and that's fine, but looks like he wants something that looks like the original Scout. :smokin:

Oh... I like it. I was giving props for a lot of :grinpimp: bodywork.

Thanks BLK Scout, for the links looks great! Quite a progression.

No problem! I'll have mine back on the trail soon, maybe we can get a Cali Scout run together when you get yours done :smokin:

I woulda stretched it while you were at it but looks good

:beer: on the fender mods man. Very nice.

I woulda stretched it while you were at it but looks good

I mite be missing somthing , do you mean wheel base ; I am at 105.5" and maybe 4" more out the back. I am still studying the back side for dove tail and fender cut.

No problem! I'll have mine back on the trail soon, maybe we can get a Cali Scout run together when you get yours done :smokin:

hey nice pick up also, I have an 02 crew cab , we got the last of the good motors....7.3 any way I think if the economy holds up and all that maybe 2015 would be a done time for me.

I mite be missing somthing , do you mean wheel base ; I am at 105.5" and maybe 4" more out the back. I am still studying the back side for dove tail and fender cut.

Sectioned instead of lifted - like mine in the rear ;)

I will tackle mine in the front eventually, what do you plan on doing to tie the front in there, chop the grill or something?

Sectioned instead of lifted - like mine in the rear ;)

I will tackle mine in the front eventually, what do you plan on doing to tie the front in there, chop the grill or something?

I am trying to blend into the nose. can you send me a link so i can take a look at yours?

looks good dan............. decide what your gonna do with the inner fender yet?

i might have some shop time available sat if you need my booty fab skills

looks good dan............. decide what your gonna do with the inner fender yet?

i might have some shop time available sat if you need my booty fab skills

Hey Glenn, I have not on the inner fenders yet, need more time to look at it. I'm sure it will come to me :grinpimp: Don't Know bout sat. yet , I will know more on fri.

binderbound has an 800 and he pinched the rear. He might have a build thread here.

I am trying to blend into the nose. can you send me a link so i can take a look at yours?
That is lookin' good :smokin:

Brandon's rear fender section/stretch:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7360286&postcount=333
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7421268&postcount=348

BinderBound's build:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=407953

Freakin' awsome job. Can't wait to see it done.

I am trying to blend into the nose. can you send me a link so i can take a look at yours?

Now that looks good, me likey

Sat. rockthedog and mangler came over and helped out. We hacked and tacked the right side fender and stretched the wheelbase even more. Now its at 110.5". We will need to work on cutting the back to get the tires to fit.

Looks :grinpimp:

Any plans yet what you're going to do for the rear? From the pic, I think it'd be awesome if you figured out a way to ''shift'' the whole wheel well back to above the tire/basically the edge of the tub. I have NO Skills for this though (you do I can see, just may take too long), my vision would be basically the opposite of bobbing the rear. You'd be adding however many inches in front of the well, and shifting it back, effictively moving the whole well to the end of the tub, but keeping the somewhat stock body lines in tact.

MS paint pics to come, I suck at explaining what's in my head:D:laughing:

Here's my pretty picture:p

Blue=sheet metal/body looking somewhat stock. Red=new wheel well shape, black=undercarrage, no sheet metal. Looks good in my head

had fun in the shop dan............ glad to see your finally getting the hang of this fabbin stuff . :)

looks awesome!

Looks :grinpimp:

Any plans yet what you're going to do for the rear? From the pic, I think it'd be awesome if you figured out a way to ''shift'' the whole wheel well back to above the tire/basically the edge of the tub. I have NO Skills for this though (you do I can see, just may take too long), my vision would be basically the opposite of bobbing the rear. You'd be adding however many inches in front of the well, and shifting it back, effictively moving the whole well to the end of the tub, but keeping the somewhat stock body lines in tact.

MS paint pics to come, I suck at explaining what's in my head:D:laughing:

I am thinking of doing it sim. to the front, up 4" and back 4" then maybe sec. ala brandon about 4" in the center of the flair.

had fun in the shop dan............ glad to see your finally getting the hang of this fabbin stuff . :)

looks awesome!

You guys can come to the shop any time, nice to have the help. As far as the fabin, I will continue to fake it :D

how'd I forget the damn picture:shaking:

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how'd I forget the damn picture:shaking:

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I thought it was my computer :p

OK I spent like 1 minute on this. Looks like you will need to stretch the fender a bit base on those tire sizes

Budget76 the clone tool is your friend

Thanks R290, nice trick. I plan to go up 4" and back 4" and section 4" from center. Brandon noted for the section , wish he could have told me sooner it would have happend on the front as well. :p

Thanks R290, nice trick. I plan to go up 4" and back 4" and section 4" from center. Brandon noted for the section , wish he could have told me sooner it would have happend on the front as well. :p

ha ha, I actually thought you did your work based on my pictures already - so your much more "original" than I thought :grinpimp:

ha ha, I actually thought you did your work based on my pictures already - so your much more "original" than I thought :grinpimp:

Each time we think we are original, all we need to do is go back 30 years. :smokin: But I do like the section you did , and I do plan to use your idea, so you do deserve the props for it. thanks again. Did you ever get time to lift your body off?

nope, finishing an addition on the house still, other than that the only scout work I am doing is Cub Scouts with my son... Scout. Getting close to a stopping point on the house though, and getting ready to get back tow work on the Scout! Err rig that is..

I got started on the back end, mocha mike had posted some pics, exploded veiws of body panles. I think it was about bulk head config. It was helpfull to see what I was cutting before I was cutting.

I cut a pie sec. and also folded back the tab on the corner, when you dove tail in you lose over all length. this made up that space.

I had some 14 gauge already broke in a 90 so it came in handy, then I left it outside til I got the rust to mach.

Now I need to deal with the Q panle

Very nice.

looks like some S2 tale lights will fit in there nice, if you're planning on running lights that is.

awesome dan!


that last pic is a quality photo :)
however you should have taken all that crap out of the truck first.

looks like some S2 tale lights will fit in there nice, if you're planning on running lights that is.

Maybe the oval sealed trailer type light with led lights and rubber gromet.

awesome dan!


that last pic is a quality photo :)
however you should have taken all that crap out of the truck first.

You are so right :flipoff2: But thanks for taking the pic

Newbie question; dose anyone have a year pref for GM steering column? To swap out for the stock one. It looked like snoopy had an 80s type in on one of his builds. I have a 74 just wondering if the newer one is better?

I think the '74 you have will be fine, I used one from an '87 Chebby. I don't think there is that much difference. Had to enlarge the hole in the dash just a bit ~1/8".

Not finished yet, though:

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I think the '74 you have will be fine, I used one from an '87 Chebby. I don't think there is that much difference.

thanks, Did you do anything other than the rag joint?

*edit...not much difference length wise, rag joint spline count is different. Steering column end should be the same 1"-48spl

Depends on the spline count of the steering box you are using. I'm using all the stock Chevy stuff, I got lucky, and the rag joint from the '87 steering column matched the small 30 spline on the '95 IFS PS box I'm using.

I should have some more pics later this week, I hope to get the PS conversion/GM column swap finished up. The actual GM ignition switch lands right on the firewall and might take some trimming to fit, but for now I'm keeping the dash switch. I'm not planning on using the GM ignition switch. I figure 2 ignition switches should keep would be thieves confused :laughing:

Mocha Mike swapped in a GM column in his S80 also.

What steering box are you using? Hopefully the rag joint splines match, if not, you can get the appropriately splined ujoint from Speedway motors or Summit, Jegs, etc

Mustang II Manual, 9/16"-26 Spline
GM Manual, Mustang II Power, 3/4"-36 Spline
Vega, Corvair GM Rack, 5/8"-36 Spline
Big GM Pre 1978, 13/16"-36 Spline
Small GM P/S 1978 & Later, 3/4"-30 Spline
Wilwood, Sweet Jaguar, MGB, 3/4"-48 Spline
Corvette, Citation Rack, 17MM DD
GM Column, 1"-48 Spline
GM Column, 1" DD
Ididit, Flaming River Column, 1" DD

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Thanks guidolyoins, I am some what familiar with 3/4 shaft weld ons, from racing days gone buy. Have you ever rebuilt a column ? , shortend , bushings,etc.?

Can I get a jury of eight ? , Should I put another light in yes/no , if yes clear / red / amber ? :smokin:

I think it looks good.

Are you planning on a back up light?

killer dan! .......i'll try to stop by and check it out

Tail light looks good.
Does the light you have do tail light, brake light, and turn all in one?
If so, just add 1 back up light on each side, if not, I would add 2 small round below it in the same center line as the brake light. 1 amber (turn) and 1 clear (back up).

round small yellow below.. or not, either way. Your an animal man..

Did you just drill out the welds to remove those rear panels or ?

I would run a 1" to a 2" round clear led light for reverse below the tail light that you have now.

Thanks guys, Its looking like a round l e d clear light for a back up light. thanks again for the in put. extra eyes are very helpful.

round small yellow below.. or not, either way. Your an animal man..

Did you just drill out the welds to remove those rear panels or ?

Hey brandon, yes drilled spot welds in door jam and bed rail. Bed rail ones were the hardest to find. then a vertical cut maped out on the corner. Once the Q panle was off it made it possible to get to the ones on the corner . So when you gona post pics of your house addition? I am going thrugh that too, the scout was a mind break from mine , still not done:shaking:

Any opinion on the Klune V; 4:1 / 2.7:1 Would the 4:1 be lost on an automatic trans to the point of too low?

Any opinion on the Klune V; 4:1 / 2.7:1 Would the 4:1 be lost on an automatic trans to the point of too low?

I'm looking to put a 4.1 on mine. 2.45 first and 2.03 Dana 20 4.56 rear and 37" tires is not low enough for tough stuff. Maybe a better torque converter might help. I can always shift into 3rd:homer:

Thanks r290, The 4:1 sounds good to me , just didn't want to wast it on the converter. What kind of stall are you running?

I suspect a stock unit. I will rebuild it at some point and get a good torque converter. Hughes Performance (http://www.hughesperformance.com/xtm_xfm.php)offer there xtm & xfm converters Stall speeds from 1000-1200 and up.

Any updates, war pony? You've been making some great progress with this rig.

No progress, too much work to do on too many other projects. How did it go with the lock tite?

No progress, too much work to do on too many other projects. How did it go with the lock tite?

I hear you. The Loctite seems to work well... stop over at my thread and check it out sometime. It's REALLY strong stuff.

Well I had a couple of hours in the shop today, so I went ahead and moved the rear wheel house back to match the axle location.Not much else, I have been gathering parts . I picked up a NP 203, then a Ford NP 205.also a 700r4. next I need adapters. the pace continues:p

got that frankenscout look (stitches around it's neck):D

looks good dan post another angle that shows the dove tail:grinpimp:

frankinscout thats good Glenn, When I get a chance I will post a new pic . gota do the tail light on the right side . Don't forget to bring that steering arm for Clint. See if the left hand bit will do the trick.

hurry up and finish that thing so I can borrow your hoist doohickey :p

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hurry up and finish that thing so I can borrow your hoist doohickey :p

Hey Brandon, Have not herd from you in a wile . I have metal for your hoist doohigy, all you need to do is come to cow town and get it.:D all the way from sacto, gas is at a premium,but if your are making a trip stop by.

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hey Glenn....\:D/....

never checked your thread.Damn nice! makes me wanna ditch the XJ and go back to the scout.

never checked your thread.Damn nice! makes me wanna ditch the XJ and go back to the scout.

Come on back to the dark side,were you need to fab your own junk,look for extra tin, and the only thing people like about scouts is the steering box :D so come on back!.....I wish I had one of those boxes then I would be more popular:laughing:

Ok a crappy cut and paste, and I'm not an 80/800 expert. Can he mount a Scout II box to the outside of the frame? What issues will there be? He has a narrowed 60 up front.

i did on mine

For S's & G's...I threw my old box up on my frame...Looks like it fits fine.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/scoutdude64/Scout%20Buildup/0717081850.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/scoutdude64/Scout%20Buildup/0717081852.jpg

For S's & G's...I threw my old box up on my frame...Looks like it fits fine.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/scoutdude64/Scout%20Buildup/0717081850.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/scoutdude64/Scout%20Buildup/0717081852.jpg

Thanks for the pics and thanks R290 for the post.

well I put the engine in the shop, got it home so I can get a better look at some things. I will call this plan B, It's an isuzu 4bd2, Plan A is the 4bt. So I will see what I can do.

Hmm, that looks like a familiar engine :D. Good luck!

Ok a crappy cut and paste, and I'm not an 80/800 expert. Can he mount a Scout II box to the outside of the frame? What issues will there be? He has a narrowed 60 up front.

I did it, tried to locate on the frame in relation to the SII d44. Ended up being right across from the crossmember. If you cut that out and plate there, you will be ok, but if not you will need to cut holes where the bolts locate, then make a panel with nuts welded on the back to weld to the frame, then you and bolt the box on.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/Fryloc/scout%20build/steering002small.jpg

I was using the stock column that I shortened, along with some heavy wall tube and small u-joints off some other IH truck.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/Fryloc/scout%20build/booster005small.jpg

Thanks Urban Wheeler, I was looking at that cross member and came up with that same thing . Now if I could find one of those boxes!

warpony,
I used IFS steering box from a 95 k2500 Chevy mounts inside the frame and used a drop pitman arm for late 70s waggy to hook up the draglink and high steer. mounting inside frame rail lined straight up with steering column. I used 87 gm steering column, made mating up the box and column easy

warpony,
I used IFS steering box from a 95 k2500 Chevy mounts inside the frame and used a drop pitman arm for late 70s waggy to hook up the draglink and high steer. mounting inside frame rail lined straight up with steering column. I used 87 gm steering column, made mating up the box and column easy

Thanks guidolyons, I,m not sure if that would work for me, the axle is way forward and a cross member would be in the way.

Here's what I did for my steering. It's a 1972 Ford F250 2WD box I believe. I have since added some guessets (would be seen in the 3rd picture).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v341/JustinL/Scout/100_0552.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v341/JustinL/Scout/100_0558.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v341/JustinL/Scout/100_0559.jpg


I'll eventually paint the front of the box red so it blends in more.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v341/JustinL/Scout/100_1136.jpg

you'd be surprised, it will fit forward of the crossmember. mine tucked in under the grill, no cutting. Sorry, can't post pics right now. I'll post some later.

you'd be surprised, it will fit forward of the crossmember. mine tucked in under the grill, no cutting. Sorry, can't post pics right now. I'll post some later.

Thanks can't wait to see them.

Thanks justinl , that looks massive,and strong.

I can idle around 700rpm and still turn the wheels with a finger. I moved my axle forward and tried to keep everything real low, but if you kept the axle around the stock location you can probably get away with out cutting away the body like I did. Your build is looking good!

WarPony, here's some pics of mine. I did push my front axle forward about 3" also. 1965 S80, killed 2 birds with one stone, got high steer and power steering.

I used GM steering column from '87 Chevy, PS box from a '95 K2500 (IFS), PS pump and new lines from auto parts store. The rag joint on the stock steering column matched the splines on the PS box. Should work fine, replacement donut is only $8, or I can always upgrade to a ujoint later if I want. The stock pitman arm won't work since it has the funky tierod end built in for the IFS centerlink, and it was too short to match the length of the Ballistic Fab Highsteer arms I used. Superlift drop pitman arm for a late 70's wagoneer clears the crossmember, and matches the length of the high steer arms better.

Checking for fit and alignment with the steering column.
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I cut off the original steering box mount and sleeved and reenforced the frame
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Tucks in right under the grill

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From the bottom, pitman arm clears the frame and crossmember
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You could probably move it forward a few more inches and still clear the grill if you need to, but judging from how you've cut the body up, I think you can figure out how to make it fit:grinpimp:

Few more of the reinforcement of the frame, and clearance behind the grill.
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The nuts welded on are just spacers so the body of the PS box will clear the frame. I reused the stock bolts that thread into the mounting ears on the box.
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Oh yeah, the PS works good, too :grinpimp: well, at least the 50' I've driven it so far, on and off the trailer.

Thanks guidolyons, Nice work. It looks like you extended the fram a bit , I won't Be able to do that cause of the stuff I have in the way forward of that cross member, so I keep coming back to the scout II box for my ap. But lets get some more pics of your rig!

hey dan you've got mail:D:D:D

Well after removing some items that will be relocated, the initial fit is good, that is the engine will go in.

that's cute :p

:smokin:

I need to find an affordable NPR or fritolay truck...

that's cute :p

I know its not pretty, like your Ford motor, thats a good looking engine. but I also think a motor bellowing out black smoke under full fuel is a good look too :smokin: not a good look for your motor. just a different kind of look.

:smokin:

I need to find an affordable NPR or fritolay truck...

They are out there, don't give up, and remember you can get some back in scrap.

Well I'm waiting for my engine adapter, so I worked on the back bumper. Some pics, the corners are left open for steps or jack points. Droped in the center for tailgate.

lookin good dan.....................where's the hydro's:laughing::flipoff2:



jk....... cary on:smokin:

Looking sweet...just hope you are planning on doing something different with that rear brake line.

Looking good, but please angle the sides of those bumpers!

Looking sweet...just hope you are planning on doing something different with that rear brake line.

Thats not a brake line, thats a hook point to pull out jeeps. :D

Looking good, but please angle the sides of those bumpers!

Hey Snoopy, Can you tell me what you are talking about on the bumper, unless its the front that you speek of, cause I have yet to cut the front. but go easy its my first time :laughing:

On the rear bumper, its angled up on the sides ~ I'd angle it more, then I'd angle it in the back. So its less of a shelf. Meaning, if you come off something, it'll slide up the bumper not off it.

I'm just talking here ~ but I'm looking at what looks like a 2x4 box area just under where the tailgate should be. Instead of having a 2x4 box, I'd angle the back edge so that its a 2x4 triangle ~ but perhaps you're planning a HiLift mount.

Not trying to poop on your stuff. You're doing an awesome job on that thing. But on the trails I'm picturing, I think you'd really benifet from some more angling.

Past that, I love what you've done to the body on this thing. Its going to be a great little scout when you're done.

Thanks snoopy, I get what you are saying. I am hopping that by moving my axle so far back , that my departure angle would keep me safer. On the sides of the bumper, they are some what angled, but the tires will be well past the outside of the bumper. thanks again snoopy

Thanks snoopy, I get what you are saying. I am hopping that by moving my axle so far back , that my departure angle would keep me safer. On the sides of the bumper, they are some what angled, but the tires will be well past the outside of the bumper. thanks again snoopy



Here's some visualization:

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/scoutdude64/bigbumper.jpg

Thanks scout dude, that looks good!

BINGO! That's exactly what I was trying to say. Come to think of it, I'd angle the sides more too. :D ;)

BINGO! That's exactly what I was trying to say. Come to think of it, I'd angle the sides more too. :D ;)

Hey snoopy, Maybe the photos are not showing well.? You know it is dove tailed 13" and the corners are on a compound angle following the body. The angle on the face edge looks good but it would be much weaker. Don't give up I think you will like it .

:cool:

My engine adapter has arrived, Dam that took some time. So shift gears and back to the motor mounts :D

So shift gears and back to the motor mounts :D


short attention span theater:laughing:



glad to hear the slow boat from china finally drifted ashore:shaking:

can't waite to see it!

War pony PMed you this is what i was talking about
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Who needs photochop when you got mad paint skills:D

I hope that pm answered your question, Now show some pics.

Nice work war pony. You told me on my thread that you are going with the 700R4 and you just got the adpter from isuzudieselswapper. I can't wait to see your setup.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8660154#post8660154

Great fab work, Dan!!!! I can't wait to see it wheeling!!!

Dan you have a very nice corn binder there your description @ the meeting didn't do this justice!

I have been waiting for funding for my next adapter, so I just did some more body work. Since I sectioned the rear fenders , 4" when I moved them, I decided the fronts would benefit as well. It seems like a step backwords, but sometimes you need to . This will allow more room on the lower portion of the fender for back side tire clearance.

Looks good. The extra room will help, especially with a shackle reversal up front.

Hey Andy, I was just on your site. time is not on your side . I can't wait till you lite it off.

Hey Andy, I was just on your site. time is not on your side . I can't wait till you lite it off.

Yeah, I know. I had to redo the filler neck because my design wasn't very good, so that ate up a few more days. I'm itching as much as you!

I LOVE this build. My deployment was a bust, so I won't be getting my atlas:(
Keep up the good work, I think I'll be using your build as a model(not a complete ripoff) for my scout.

nice dan.....you might as well get it over with and sell your body to get that adptr:laughing:

I LOVE this build. My deployment was a bust, so I won't be getting my atlas:(
Keep up the good work, I think I'll be using your build as a model(not a complete ripoff) for my scout.

Sorry to here bout the Atlas, But at least you won't be in harms way. besides you can set up another plan for that Atlas, Be nice to Mama, maybe that would work. In the mean'time get some pics of your scout.

nice dan.....you might as well get it over with and sell your body to get that adptr:laughing:

If I sold my body, I would have to deal with all those quarters.:D

If I sold my body, I would have to deal with all those quarters.:D




all four of them?:D

all four of them?:D

If you include the tip

Sorry to here bout the Atlas, But at least you won't be in harms way. besides you can set up another plan for that Atlas, Be nice to Mama, maybe that would work. In the mean'time get some pics of your scout.

Scout is gonna sit for a while. Need to re-collect parts that i sold during mobilization. gonna throw my XJ together real quick so i have something to wheel and don't "rush" on the scout. I HATE doing things twice due to my own impatience.

Updates?

Kinda on hold, four birthdays in two months. That takes a bite out of the build fund. I hope to start bending tube around the holidays.

Mangler and rockthedog came by yesterday and we got the cage started. It was great to have the help. It's funny how fast 60' of tube can disappar, I will try to post some pics.

some pics of the cage

Needs more triangluation:flipoff2: Looks good so far.

Sliders stick out far enough?:p Can't wait to see this thing rolling

I knew as soon as I posted some one would see the rock sliders. They are pulled out for a platform to stand on and tack the cage. more triangles to come , I need more tube.

HOLY SLIDERS BATMAN!!!!!!!!!:eek::D:D:D

more triangles

HOLY SLIDERS BATMAN!!!!!!!!!:eek::D:D:D

Hey mangler, You know my hydro is broke and they wont go back in:flipoff2:

looks great dan:smokin:................ looks even better in person:flipoff2:

that slider reminds me of the begining of hawaaii 50 ,......you know those canoes they race in the ocean?

if you slide the other one out it looks like a full on trimoran (3 hulled ship)D:laughing:

just kidding ......i'm way impressed how quick you got the hang of bending tube......................you suck!

lookin good! I'm trying so hard to not make plans for mine based off this rig, but it's just............good

lookin good! I'm trying so hard to not make plans for mine based off this rig, but it's just............good

thanks BeefCakeScout, I think you could have it done by now , mine is taking forever.

Dan lookin good, Clint said you guys started the cage, I like the lines of it ( not that my opion means anything)

Dan lookin good, Clint said you guys started the cage, I like the lines of it ( not that my opion means anything)

hey rockinfive+2, Thanks and you should have clint bring you over and check it out. I have more tube coming, then I can get the X done etc.

thanks BeefCakeScout, I think you could have it done by now , mine is taking forever.
Eh, I'm aquiring parts to do it right the first time. For now, i'm beatin on my xj, just to keep the itch at bay.It'll probably sit for another 9 mo. to a year before i'm ready to get it started.

Well I got more tube, so with some time off for the holidays I think I can get the cage done.

If you need an extra hand, let me know. I tried making clamps to hold the tube when building mine, but nothing like clamps with a brain:D But were planing on snow wheeling Sat :smokin:

Thanks Craig, I appreciate the offer. Rockthedog may come buy, I have his sons Dodge at my shop. we tried to remove broken studs that turned out to be welded bolts so we need to make another repair . I will post some pics on both.

Had some time to play today, so I was able to get some more done on the cage

this leads me to a question

what are the disadvantages of removing the bulk head? it may be in the FAQ so flame on if it is.

OK I think I have satisfied the quotas for triangles, rockthedog stoped by and gave me a hand. He makes a good clamp, If he's not distracted by something shiny.

That cage is looking good so far.

That cage is looking good so far.

Thanks ,I hope to get the seat tube in place . Want to make sure I have the head bang space all worked out.