I want to know from those who have mounted the cage to the frame on a 40, without bushings of some sort....are there any negatives to doing this....on a 66 model that has worn out rubber mounts with no cushion anyway.
I'm working within a budget, and if we have to bushing-mount, we have to postpone this aspect.
Butch

Make it a stout cage..

If it is not structurally strong enough you have the possibility of stressing the cage every time you flex the rig.

Take Nolen's rig, You know how much frame flex he gets. IT would be like bending a coathanger in the same place over and over again.

One day it might just come apart, or worse yet not do its job in a roll..

Are you saying, make it hell for strong, and not tie it to the frame?
We are going to swing the seats and belts from the cage anyway.
Yours or Nolens either are tied to the frame are they?
Butch

I think txcrsr did this. there are some pics floating around if you search.

i would say a good compromise would be poly bushings?

Matt

I am going to tie mine to the frame to stiffen up my frame.

On the front hoop, I am going to have a plate that mounts just under where the stock cage bolted.

In the front, I already have a backing plate that I will run straight to the frame.

I say go for it, as you said the bushings are shot on Dusty's rig anyway!

while were on the subject, I just finished my full cage and had some of the same questions. Heres my Idea. Since Im in Canada and our cruisers came with factory rust I cut the front body mounts away and built new ones outa 1/8 plate. Now My cage sits right above that on the other side of the floor. Will it be a good idea to have the cage tied into the body mount? Its theroretically bolted to the frame this way. Comments?

Dan

Its a catch 22...if you tie to the frame don't plate open a larger hole and tie it in..grommets can be made from old inner tubes to keep the weather out, otherwise if you go with plates use bushings.....

My cage ties into the front A pilar with stout angle iron and a plate at the floor so it is tied into the body mount. I have no bushings and have not noticed any negatives yet. See pics here : http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/bsilva132/lst?.dir=/rollcage&.view=t
see pics 0039 and 0040. This is not my rig, but I have the same cage. It is made out of DOM 1020 tubing.
-Brian

I tried to look at them it gave me "Try to access with different password" message, in other words it won't let me in.....
Butch

I just e-mailed them to you at your pirate address. For some reason yahoo won't let me share my albums publically. My computer nerd roomate is out of town right now so when he gets back I will have him figure out how to change it.
-Brian

Fixxxxer66- win u lern to speel my name rite i'll talc too u :flipoff2:

My cage is mouted to the frame by a backing plate below the cage that has a tube bent and welded to the plate and to the frame. The cage is out right now to be welded on for a bar for the 5pts., and when I out it in I'm going to put a thin piece of rubber between the cage and floor so maybe add some cushion, but mainly to keep it from peeling the herculiner up and rusting the floor, not like rust is a problem :D
I say bolt it to the frame and bolt yourself to the cage, possibily as strong as it can get, and if the frame mounts break then you'll have one kick arse ride :D

Joseph A.

With the cage out I was thinking about sitting in it, buckling up, and having some one push it down a small hill behind our house for a test run.... :D

Originally posted by texican
Are you saying, make it hell for strong, and not tie it to the frame?
We are going to swing the seats and belts from the cage anyway.
Yours or Nolens either are tied to the frame are they?
Butch

Mine is not but the only reason It isn't is because I was too lazy to finish the job. It will be soon. And I was going to use buishings.

What I meant was if you tie it into the frame without bushings you need to make the cage really strong so that it will minimize frame flex. With a cage that is tied into the frame and the frame is still able to flex a lot it puts a lot of stress on the welds over and over again. So you have the possibility of the welds fatiguing (sp?) over time

I seriously doubt that there is much strength difference between tieing it into the frame and just to the body. So I really think it is up to you.
:)

Can't wait to see the end result though!

TxCruzr, how about vibrations when you drive onroad (sorry for the filthy word :flipoff2: ) at 60+ mph? My cruiser is my daily driver so comfort is a bit of an isue.

Christof

Hey bsilva132,
Thats a great lookin cruiser, looks just like mine! haha. Give credit where credit is due, that cage was built by luke and allen at 4x4 labs. its not tied directly to the frame with tubing, bit it is tied to the factory roll bar mounts in the rear and the front plate is directly over the front body mount.
PMK

Yes that is the cage luke and Allen built. Sorry for not giving credit, but I was in a hurry. I love the cage and the leg room the design provides.

Originally posted by bsilva132
Yes that is the cage luke and Allen built. Sorry for not giving credit, but I was in a hurry. I love the cage and the leg room the design provides.

Try and keep Bozo's out of the picture, will ya! :rasta:
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/91eafa7c/bc/rollcage/_0037.jpg?bcfXfU9AKC9SkmB2

It's bad for Luke and Alan's business to have them seen associated with people like this:rolleyes:

Diesel_Cruiser-Theres not really any vibrations, when we put the cage back in this week I'm going to put in a thin piece of rubber to keep the herculinear from peelingup and to maybe help with vibrations.
If you have a 1F like me with a SOA and 35s, then the cage vibrations are the least of your worries when driving down the highway:D (mines also a DD)

Joseph A.

TxCruzr: Mine is B 3000cc diesel engine, (soon to have) 35" sua.

Christof