I am at 94" right now and since I am tubing the rear and putting 16" coilovers on it I am thinking about stretching it another 6-8".

I wanna know what all you guys are running? How do you like it? ANd if you haven't stretched it yet, what are you planning on making the wheelbase?

I like the way 100-102" sounds, especially will all the flex I have.

It climbed like a beast at 94", but it would be nicer to have it a little longer for stability and to climb bigger obstacles.

I know oilburner is at 96", PSF4x4 is at 97", fatty put his at 94" (how do you like it?), but what are the rest of you at?

coilover$$$$? :flipoff2: how did you like thos summit coil springs? mines at 100"

85.5 and no problem if I eventually go fox coil overs Ill go 95 but thats my 02

Ditchin' the skinny boingers, eh? What's up? I say go for 100." But, then agai, I dumped my Scout II in order to build something more manuverable on the trail(that and something that didn't require a 500 horse 440cid to haul its ass around!). I'll be stickin' my 'Kick at 94." Want more, but that should do.
How were your sidehilling capabilities with your set-up?

98.5...but untested, I'll let ya know hw it does.

88.5 and wishing for more length :D

84" toy axles too short, going 97" after summer is over...I want to wheel not build right now...so I will live with it.

I was looking at some pics of Shaffer's rig in a mag at Farmington. Maybe it;s the angles and shots, but it looks short. Anyone know?

right now mines at 84, gotta keep it streetable........:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by mud-magnet
right now mines at 84, gotta keep it streetable........:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

ok I'll bite.............what does wheel base have to do with "streetability"?:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

I'm at 85". I haven't tested it with the 35's yet, but that seemed to work very well with 33's. I'd eventually like to add 37's and about 10" to the rear via 1/4 elliptical to obtain a 90* departure angle. :D ~Steve

Actually I found an AWESOME price on the sway-away race runner shocks for $225 each, then $65 for the coilover hardware, and one more 14" coil for $50, so overall price for each was $330 or $370 with both coils, thats CHEAP!!

SIde hilling wasn't bad at all, considering my coils are sooo soft. Although I destroyed all of the body when I rolled it at about 45-50 degrees, but I almost stuck it. THats pretty steep of an angle. I am gonna keep the front coils cause those skinny little boingers are freeking awesome and go coilover later, but for now Just cage, tube frame rear, and coilovers rear. I really don't wanna redo the entire rear suspension, but I think 100" or a 6" difference would really make the difference.

I don't know what to do!! Thats about 200$ more bucks in metal, 100$ in driveline lengthening, and alot more down time!! Dammit, DAmmit-this should be easy to decide since all of you say lengthen it. Alright I will, I think.. THanks for the input, but I wanna hear from more of ya, so whats it at guys?

Does anyone know what Shaffers new rig's wheelbase is at? What about his old one?

Originally posted by SeaBass44


ok I'll bite.............what does wheel base have to do with "streetability"?:flipoff2: :flipoff2:


if i go much farther i'll have to cut the body.......... the people around here don't like bodys that are cut and choped....... if they did i'd drop my convertable body on my frame and do a flat bed and 95" W/B, ect....... but i can't....... and the trails we run here are TRAILS, not a spot you go and wheel and it'll take you back to where you started, ours trails start at one place and end up a 1-2 hours highway drive away from where you started..... so i can't even make it into a trailer queen........ kinda sucks..... but people here don't mind you driving through there front yard to get to a trail, they'll just come out a see what the noise is and wave to ya...... i love this place......:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

WHo cares if the people don't like chopped up bodies! Do what works. Get a trailer and have somebody drop it off with tow rig at end of trail. OR move to USA:flipoff2: Just breakin ya balls!

I dont know now, I think I am gonna leave the wb where it's at right now and save for some beadlocks and front coilovers! Yup, that's what I'm doing

Anyone know what AZrockcrawler is at? What does he plan on putting project money pit at?

Originally posted by nuttzack
Does anyone know what Shaffers new rig's wheelbase is at? What about his old one?

i asked him about is black one and it was like 92 or 94 "

his new creation is at 102 i believe.

Mine is at 84" and I thin I'll stretch it out to about 88. Should work for 33's. I run tight trails. There is a couple where even I have to back up once to help make it through some of the corners.

Yeah, I know all to well about the tight trail shit! Wasn't too bad at 94" although some times I have to back up to make the turn. I'm gonna leave mine at 94", for now!

Originally posted by Shawn_C
I run tight trails. There is a couple where even I have to back up once to help make it through some of the corners.

Your not suppose to Backup............................................ ........... just bounce off the tree for a better line:D

Buddy did that same thing on one of the corners. Needless to say that corner isn't very tight anymore.:p :D ;)

Hrmm, you guys are making me wonder how well 89" is gonna work with my 37's :skull:

100" with 37's and coil suspension. I changed my radius arms to a wristed arm and now have great flex.

Originally posted by nuttzack
Does anyone know what Shaffers new rig's wheelbase is at? What about his old one?
His new one is at 102...........

I saw fatty wheel his, and it looked pretty damn stable at the 94" mark!!

Any good pics of the new Phatmobile.

WHats your's at RUDE? What would you put it at if you could?

wow you guy's are all driving limousines!!!:p

my 'lil old airzuki currently measures out at 81" (stretched from the stock 79" :D :D ) and I even run a Diesel and dual cases too....of course I am planning on streching it out 10" or so( moving to the:vader2: :D )

Believe me! YOu would not believe how much more capable your rig becomes with a wheel base in the 90-100" range...that is until you have it. WIth 37" and a 94" base my breakover angles are pretty good and never really get high centered. I will say one thing though, too much wheelbase sucks were the trails are tight.
In stock form and even in the 80" I think the sammi's are just too short for me, especially when they don't flex much...just plain scarry seeing that much sky:eek:
I am curious to hear what rudezuk thinks about his wheelbase with the 37's.

the thing is ..... my POS is already pretty damn capable, if I stretch it out ....I could literally scare the sh!t out of myself!:eek: ;) ;) ;)

Originally posted by nuttzack


Anyone know what AZrockcrawler is at? What does he plan on putting project money pit at?

Mine's at 85". MP will be around 96-98". I should have my tub shortly so I can put the motor in and mock up the dual t-case and see how short my driveline will end up. If it's too short I may go longer wb. FWIW the black Samurai driven by my buddy Erik (V8 powered) is at 98", It climbs real well but I can definately see wanting 38's if I go that long. He's got 36's on there now and tends to drag his cross members quite a bit.

I think you driveline should be at a decent length at 96-98". If I was you though I would definitelty go 38 sx's with 100" wb

Im at 110"s and love it.. when I start the sami buggy I headed out to 114-116"'s

now that's long:eek: what size of tire you planning on runnin?

37's... same as now....

mike-

easier to start with a suburban :flipoff2: :D

I see where Shaffers buggy weighs 2,633 lbs. Mine is'nt much more then that, it tilts the scales at 2,710 lbs.

cutting brakes and Arb's ... makes a long wb rig turn like a short one and you get to climb and drop off some really big stuff

mike-

I have coils and 4-link and I stretched mine out to 115", but I,m

running 44" tires, so I don't have any clearance problems

underneath. It really depends on what type of terrain you are

going to be on most of the time.

i like the 97" alot. i wheeled with a couple of sami last sept. in tellico and you could really tell a difference over stock. most of the wheeling i've done has been with high5 and he sits at about 100" so i couldn't really tell how effective it was. i still would like to move the front about 2-3" forward more but thats just cause i run 36's. bottom line is i like it i'm not scared to go a couple to-three more "s. different wheel base works different terrain. :usa:

Originally posted by psf4x4
i wheeled with a couple of sami last sept. in tellico and you could really tell a difference over stock.

Yah, Chris scooted right up the Helicopter Pad where I struggled for a little while. But I've Never rolled on Slickrock! :p ;)

yeah, got no come back for that one...are you guys getting back together this fall so i can come up there and and show you what not to do on slickrock. i took the same line i took last sept. i've watched the video a 100 times and she was going to flatten out and i let off the gas. live and learn.

what kind of springs are you running PSF? what about gears?

Originally posted by nuttzack
what kind of springs are you running PSF? what about gears?

he is running yj springs and 5.38's in the dana44's and was running a 4to1 t-case but his sumo 6to1 is on it's way.

his sumo 6to1 is on it's way

Mine will be soon too, hopefully!:mad:

i just got mine today. but my dumb arse sent my shifter with my 4:1 when i sold it. so now i have to find one of those. :usa:

Originally posted by psf4x4
i just got mine today. but my dumb arse sent my shifter with my 4:1 when i sold it. so now i have to find one of those. :usa:

call me. ron has a broken sami t-case that has a good shifter. i asked him and he said you can have it.:D

I am getting ready to start the parts collection for my sami/tube project and I will be going for a 102" WB. I will be running 37"+ tire size with d44- 4whl steer- ARBs- and cutting brks so I don't see a prob with tight trails. Sh!t after running wrecking ball in a EB their are no more tight trails!!