: BAD SELLER/Bowtie Binder/Wont finish deal


extremeoffroad
02-01-2008, 05:17 PM
On dec.22/07 i purchased a Dana 60 housing with carrier and r/p for 375$ and drove to Russelville Ark. to pick it up when i got the housing Brad told me he had forgot the ring gear and carrier no big deal pm'ed Brad my address because he told me he would ship it to me. Now after several pm's and him telling me it has been picked up around the 1st of Jan.and is going to have some tracking #s i haven't seen anything .Last time he has replied to my pm's was on Jan. 17 sent more to him still haven't seen a thing anyone know whats up seemed like a pretty good guy to me of course looks can be deceiving obviously.

extremeoffroad
02-03-2008, 04:57 PM
Anyone know this guy? Sure would like to have my carrier and ring gear for the rest of front end.

jesster
02-04-2008, 10:07 AM
So I am not the only one...

Same dude fawked me over on a used ARB. When I recieved it, half of the parts were either missing or damaged to the point of having to be replaced. When you buy something used it is expected that it won't be perfect, but this locker had obviously been through a R&P failure and there was no mention of it in the ad. The cross shaft must have been broken when the R&P let go and it was just pounded it back into the case with a hammer... :confused: I tried to contact Brad (Bowtie Binder) about coming to some type of resolution and he told me to pound sand. I tried to be reasonable, but he didn't want to have any of it. I now have over $850 in a used ARB. :shaking::mad3:

This guy is either a major dumbass or is intentionally misleading/screwing people with his sales. Buyer beware.


Jesse

extremeoffroad
02-04-2008, 04:23 PM
Damn dude sorry to hear about that,sh!t like that will always come back to bite them in the a$$ and i am hoping it does

oldjeep
02-05-2008, 10:46 AM
I just realized that this is the same guy who screwed me over on JU. Was doing a google search on his email address (Bradley_Shewmaker@hotmail.com) and came up with his pirate ID (Bowtie Binder)

On JU his ID is:BShewMaker

Same ad he posted on JU that I responded to
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=640475

SO I pay this guy for a set of D30 axles shipped to me for $120 before xmas and ask him to hold off shipping until 1/3/08

on 1/11/08 he says that he's finally going to ship them and send me a tracking number, says it's been delayed because someone is sick.

1/18/08 still havn't got a tracking number so I pm him, no response and the last time he logged onto JU is late on the 18th.

1/23/08 I file a paypal dispute, wait the 10 days and then find out this morning that he has provided them with a UPS tracking number which resets the dispute clock.

2/4/08
Unfortunately the tracking number is bogus, which I can see by looking at it since it does not follow the format of a UPS Tracking number.
Paypal agrees and closes the dispute in my favor. Unfortunately he only has $8.37 in his account so I'm still out over $110


I did find an address and phone number for him on ZabaSearch, although it's not going to do me much good.

extremeoffroad
02-05-2008, 03:36 PM
Hey moderator BAN this a$$hole fromthe board or give us some info on him.

Old Scout
02-05-2008, 07:04 PM
Hey moderator BAN this a$$hole fromthe board or give us some info on him.

And I was thinking that he was a scout guy, He drives a CJ::laughing:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/member.php?u=47905

Cabin Boy
02-08-2008, 09:27 AM
Hey moderator BAN this a$$hole fromthe board or give us some info on him.

Send a pm to the mod.

oldjeep
02-08-2008, 01:06 PM
Send a pm to the mod.


Not like it matters. He hasn't signed in here since 1/21 or on JU since 1/18. I'm guessing that he realizes that people are looking for him.

oldjeep
02-08-2008, 07:49 PM
you got your money back, I hope you feel like **** screwing with a guy's who's house burnt. I've still got your axles with no damage, but you couldn't give a guy a minute to get his life back in order. I wish the only thing I had to worry about was a couple of stock axles.

thanks for nothing,

your homeless merchant
brad

PM I got from him on JU just a few minutes ago. If it's true, then I feel bad for him. If he hadn't tried to give paypal a fake tracking number, I might be more inclined to believe it. Not sure why he thinks I got my money back, or how I would know anything about his life. I did get $8.37, but not the other $111.63.

oldjeep
02-08-2008, 08:06 PM
I directed him to this thread, so hopefully you other folks will get your parts/issues resolved.

oldjeep
02-08-2008, 08:33 PM
I'm starting to take a serious dislike to this guy
http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8243879&posted=1#post8243879

Bowtie Binder
02-08-2008, 08:38 PM
extreme. I'm sorry, I forgot about your carrier, give me your address and I'll send it to you.

Jester: GO FUCK YOURSELF, You bought it on ebay, with the heading " no garuntee and no prior knowledge of the item, I got it off here and didn't open it except for pictures for ebay. You also got the full size compressor and the HD red airling also. for the measly $400 bucks you paid for it.

Old jeep: You told me to hold it till you let me know. Thanks for letting me know with a dispute with paypal. I dont have you money they do, so go crawl up their ass. Also your story about the bogus tracking number is bull shit, and you threat about putting a screen shot up here? what dumbass with a key board couldn't counterfeit that. so fuck you to.

Bowtie Binder
02-08-2008, 08:45 PM
I'm starting to take a serious dislike to this guy
http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8243879&posted=1#post8243879

your the douche bag that photo shops shit to make someone look bad

Bowtie Binder
02-08-2008, 08:57 PM
I'm starting to take a serious dislike to this guy
http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8243879&posted=1#post8243879

I manually refunded your money from my account you piece of shit

Bowtie Binder
02-08-2008, 09:39 PM
if anybody else has issue with me please feel free to call me at 8703356558. calls showing private numbers are automatically disconnected. thanks Brad

Old Jeep Once again: GO fuck a briar bush

Bowtie Binder
02-08-2008, 09:42 PM
Send a pm to the mod.

Fuck you too, this doesn't concern you

Bowtie Binder
02-08-2008, 09:43 PM
On dec.22/07 i purchased a Dana 60 housing with carrier and r/p for 375$ and drove to Russelville Ark. to pick it up when i got the housing Brad told me he had forgot the ring gear and carrier no big deal pm'ed Brad my address because he told me he would ship it to me. Now after several pm's and him telling me it has been picked up around the 1st of Jan.and is going to have some tracking #s i haven't seen anything .Last time he has replied to my pm's was on Jan. 17 sent more to him still haven't seen a thing anyone know whats up seemed like a pretty good guy to me of course looks can be deceiving obviously.

I dont think 2 is several but anyway, give me you address and i'll send the carrier and gear

You guys seemed nice also, and I'm sorry If you feel I took advantage of you

Bowtie Binder
02-08-2008, 11:11 PM
Not like it matters. He hasn't signed in here since 1/21 or on JU since 1/18. I'm guessing that he realizes that people are looking for him.

My house burnt you stupid mother fucker, Im not worried about PBB or JU right not, I'm trying to get out of the fucking Ramada Inn. Im sorry you life is peachy, Im doing my laundry in the maids wash room you self absorbded bastard

oldjeep
02-09-2008, 06:10 AM
I manually refunded your money from my account you piece of shit

Yes, I see that there is now a pending transaction 2/8/08 for the remaining refund amount.

Thank you

Bowtie Binder
02-09-2008, 10:13 AM
EXTREME you tracking number for the carrier is FED EX Ground

763356910002873

Bowtie Binder
02-09-2008, 10:22 AM
Jester
you bought an AS-IS product of ebay. Did the compressor work? did the air line work? I told you befor you bid that I had not checked it out and all I could tell you was that it would turn in the carrier bearings. all I did was open to take pics. So you need to take a little responsibility for you own actions and realize that you paid about $150 for the arb with the compressor and air line. Im sorry you think you got screwed, but I don't I took care of extreme and the other guy with the axles because I screwed up, I didn't however screw up with you, as is means as is.

Bowtie Binder
02-09-2008, 10:23 AM
Send a pm to the mod.

You can go fuck yourself too

Bowtie Binder
02-09-2008, 11:05 AM
Hey moderator BAN this a$$hole fromthe board or give us some info on him.

You had my cell phone number you dumb fuck. we talked to each other on a cell phone to coordinate (is that word in your vocabulary, or do need a minute to set your cracked out scraggly self in front of a dictionary) a meeting place. Do you think befor you type or does that ass of your face just spew words like it spews shit. What a dumb mother fucker. You got your tracking number so now you can go fuck your mother you inbred piece of shit

ademster
02-09-2008, 11:07 AM
You can go fuck yourself too


I know, how about you go fuck your self,

considering they all have been fucked.... BY YOU!!!


people like you make us look like bad people, you lame full of excuses piece of shit.:flipoff2::shaking:

Bowtie Binder
02-09-2008, 01:56 PM
I know, how about you go fuck your self,

considering they all have been fucked.... BY YOU!!!


people like you make us look like bad people, you lame full of excuses piece of shit.:flipoff2::shaking:

People, like who. The only person here that their issue hasn't been resolve is the guy who bought an "as is" No garuntee product for ebay for a steal. I didnt fuck anybody, all either recieved their product or got their money back.
I guess providing tracking numbers is excuses and refunding paypal accounts is excuses, why dont you read the whole post you illiterate fuck. what dog do you have in this fight except to pad your post count you fucking leach.

ademster
02-09-2008, 02:34 PM
People, like who. The only person here that their issue hasn't been resolve is the guy who bought an "as is" No garuntee product for ebay for a steal. I didnt fuck anybody, all either recieved their product or got their money back.
I guess providing tracking numbers is excuses and refunding paypal accounts is excuses, why dont you read the whole post you illiterate fuck. what dog do you have in this fight except to pad your post count you fucking leach.


if i wanted to "pad" my post count, dont you think my post count would be in the thousands?

and umm if i am the illiterate fuck, thats fine! at least i know how to spell guarantee..

jesster
02-09-2008, 02:57 PM
Jester
you bought an AS-IS product of ebay. As an internet buyer, I expect the seller to at least attempt to be honest with the description of the used item being sold. I have taken part in hundreds of internet transactions (both eBay and multiple hobby forums), none of which up till now did I feel that I got mislead, which makes me feel that my expectations are not unreasonable.


I told you befor you bid that I had not checked it out and all I could tell you was that it would turn in the carrier bearings. .Correction...
I asked if the auction included the Air Seal Housing, you said no, and I was fine with that.
Also, you didn't say "the locker would turn in the carrier bearings"(whatever that is supposed to mean...?) in the ad description. Your statement was, "the locker turns freely", which I figured (and wrongly so) meant that the Locker itself turned freely, as in, internal parts, which as most of us know, are pretty important in a locker. Yet the locker couldn't turn freely with half of the internals either broken or missing...

Jester: GO FUCK YOURSELF, You bought it on ebay, with the heading " no garuntee and no prior knowledge of the item, I got it off here and didn't open it except for pictures for ebay.

Did the compressor work? did the air line work?

You also got the full size compressor and the HD red airling also. for the measly $400 bucks you paid for it.

The heading should have been "used compressor with broken ARB locker FOR PARTS"

I paid $410.50 plus shipping for a used compressor and some ARB locker parts. That is not what I was under the impression I was supposed to be getting. Thus, my feeling of being mislead.

Even taking the used compressor and used braided air line out of the equation, I still have more money in this used ARB which has been through a R&P blow out (or whatever the heck happened to it) than I would have in a new one. I can probably get ARB to print all my receipts if you would like an exact number.

So you need to take a little responsibility for you own actions and realize that you paid about $150 for the arb with the compressor and air line.I feel that I took responsibility by eating the freakin' blown-up, POS, locker pieces that were supposed to be an ARB...

all I did was open to take pics.
Is this how you take responsibility for your actions? With statements like that!?!? Alrighty...! :laughing:

Not only did you open the box, but you also had to take everything out of the box, correct? You are telling me that at no point while picking up the locker and moving it around did you notice anything out of the ordinary?

Did you not notice the empty case half which was due to their being no splined side gear? How about the mushroomed cross pin that was hammered back into the case, or the multiple gall marks on the case?!?! Any one of these things are obvious defects that I feel would have been disclosed by an honest seller...

I took care of extreme and the other guy with the axles because I screwed up, I didn't however screw up with you, as is means as is.I am glad to hear that my bad deal was an isolated incident and not a trend.


Im sorry you think you got screwed, but I don't.
Let's make a pact to never buy anything from each other ever again...


Sincerely,
Jesse Taliaferro

Bowtie Binder
02-09-2008, 03:17 PM
I didnt test it. I have never had an arb, and am not an arb engineer. didnt look inside or install to check working order. I told you it didnt have the little copper air inlet thats the extent of my inspection. How could I know there were missing parts without dissasembly. Im sorry you think you got screwed but it was a no reserve as-is no garuntee auction, and you got a $225 air compressor and a $80 air line also. I'm sorry that you feel you got the short end of the deal, but I paid $900 for the whole package less than a year ago and it set on my shelf till I decided I wanted a HP60. So I was out $500 over the deal too. Im not glad you were the one that found the deficencies, but I didnt dealve into it to install it, I was just a reseller. As I knew nothing about the product other than what was in the box, that's why I listed it as as is no garuntee.

Bowtie Binder
02-09-2008, 03:21 PM
if i wanted to "pad" my post count, dont you think my post count would be in the thousands?

and umm if i am the illiterate fuck, thats fine! at least i know how to spell guarantee..

Why are you even in this thread? What dog do you have in this fight. I have corrected my mistakes. what else do you want?

TCRwheeler93
02-09-2008, 05:46 PM
what else do you want?

For you to clean up your language. You sound like a 4th grader trying to act tough. That fact alone has turned everyone else that you haven't screwed against you.

Bowtie Binder
02-09-2008, 09:04 PM
so its ok for everyone else on pbb to cuss like a sailor just not me?

Bowtie Binder
02-09-2008, 09:06 PM
if i wanted to "pad" my post count, dont you think my post count would be in the thousands?

and umm if i am the illiterate fuck, thats fine! at least i know how to spell guarantee..

illiteracy has nothing to do with spelling

Bowtie Binder
02-09-2008, 09:11 PM
For you to clean up your language. You sound like a 4th grader trying to act tough. That fact alone has turned everyone else that you haven't screwed against you.

if i wanted to "pad" my post count, dont you think my post count would be in the thousands?

and umm if i am the illiterate fuck, thats fine! at least i know how to spell guarantee..

Once again why are you even posting here, this has absolutly nothing to do with you and you are adding nothing but to up your post count. if you want to read thats fine. Butt out web wheelers. The people that have legitiment issuse are/have worked them out.

TCRwheeler93
02-09-2008, 09:51 PM
Once again why are you even posting here, this has absolutly nothing to do with you and you are adding nothing but to up your post count. if you want to read thats fine. Butt out web wheelers. The people that have legitiment issuse are/have worked them out.

I would think that my post count reflects that I have better things to do than sit in front of my PC web wheeling. As for why I am posting here, I told you. I take offense when people post up useless diatribe like you have, especially when they are in the wrong, and begin to get defensive.

I am sure that there are others on here that cuss and swear like sailors, but you initiated it here, therefore I am addressing you. And I am being polite about it. See how this works?

I am glad to hear that all issues have been resolved, with the possible exception of the ARB. Might I suggest closer examination of items you wish to sell, where ever that may be?

odin544
02-09-2008, 10:02 PM
I didnt test it. I have never had an arb, and am not an arb engineer. didnt look inside or install to check working order. I told you it didnt have the little copper air inlet thats the extent of my inspection. How could I know there were missing parts without dissasembly. Im sorry you think you got screwed but it was a no reserve as-is no garuntee auction, and you got a $225 air compressor and a $80 air line also. I'm sorry that you feel you got the short end of the deal, but I paid $900 for the whole package less than a year ago and it set on my shelf till I decided I wanted a HP60. So I was out $500 over the deal too. Im not glad you were the one that found the deficencies, but I didnt dealve into it to install it, I was just a reseller. As I knew nothing about the product other than what was in the box, that's why I listed it as as is no garuntee.

I call bullshit. If you paid $900 for this new or used, you wouldn't take a $500 loss on it unless you knew something was up with it. You were obviously trying to cut your losses and get whatever you could out of it. Hence your no reserve, as is auction.

I have sold many used item on eBay and elsewhere. And even though I can not guarantee and item to be in perfect condition I do guarantee the buyers satisfaction or their money back. Why? Because its the HONEST thing to do.

And you can complain that its none of my business. But it is everyone's business when people on pirate are being less than honest when selling. But I give you credit for taking care of the issue this thread was started for.

Bowtie Binder
02-10-2008, 05:08 AM
I had a use for it when I bought it. I never installed it It sat for a year on a shelf never opened When I got the HP obviously I didnt need a low pinion arb anymore. I didnt open it because I never needed to install it. I thought it was in good condition or I wouldn't have bought it. that is the same thing I told jester. I havn't opend except to take pics and the carrier bearings looked good. This was an ebay transaction not a pirate one. I'm done with this thread you can bash me. I took care of extreme, the person that started this tread and I took care of the guy from ju. I think I made an effort to satisfy the people I did wrong, but as for an auction on ebay, I represented it to the best of my ability, no I didnt take it apart and have the guys at arb look at it, but I assumed the guy I bought it from HERE ON PIRATE didnt give me a raw deal either.

Bowtie Binder
02-10-2008, 05:25 AM
I call bullshit. If you paid $900 for this new or used, you wouldn't take a $500 loss on it unless you knew something was up with it. You were obviously trying to cut your losses and get whatever you could out of it. Hence your no reserve, as is auction.

I have sold many used item on eBay and elsewhere. And even though I can not guarantee and item to be in perfect condition I do guarantee the buyers satisfaction or their money back. Why? Because its the HONEST thing to do.

And you can complain that its none of my business. But it is everyone's business when people on pirate are being less than honest when selling. But I give you credit for taking care of the issue this thread was started for.

I wasn't trying to cut my losses either. I tried to end the ebay auction the day befor because, I thought it was a good product, and didn't want to sell it that cheap. Ebay wouldn't let me so I had to sell it for what the price was. I'm not that nice of a guy to cut a $500 loss because I just don't need it anymore. I'm trying to search the guy I bought it from so you can burn him at the stake too.

Bowtie Binder
02-10-2008, 05:45 AM
I would think that my post count reflects that I have better things to do than sit in front of my PC web wheeling. As for why I am posting here, I told you. I take offense when people post up useless diatribe like you have, especially when they are in the wrong, and begin to get defensive.

I am sure that there are others on here that cuss and swear like sailors, but you initiated it here, therefore I am addressing you. And I am being polite about it. See how this works?

I am glad to hear that all issues have been resolved, with the possible exception of the ARB. Might I suggest closer examination of items you wish to sell, where ever that may be?

Yes I should have examined it closer, but with no prior knowledge of an arb or its inner workings how am I, the laymen of lockers supposed to know the correct pneumatics of a used air locker. I didnt take out the center pin to check for true, I didnt open it up to make sure all the parts were there. I dont have an exploded view on print for me to compare to. That is why I listed it as a as is auction. Did the compressor work? yes I had a way to test that. I wasn't going to install the arb in my non-existent d60 plumb an air source and test it, so it once again falls back to the as-is listing. No I didnt want to sell it for $400 bucks but ebay wouldn't let me cancel the auction on the last day. I thought I had a useable (except for the air inlet) unit. I'm sorry to jester for his and my misfortune, His being a broke but fixable locker and mine being $500 out of my pocket. Please excuse my language I have used on this thread, it is out of my character to use such grammar (if you can call it that) I felt ganged upon and was taking care of each of my problems one at a time when people just started jumping on me with no prior knowlegde or interest other that to push me down in the mud, which I am trying to wash off at the moment. Using this as a position to move forward from. I will either inspect to my fullest ability or not sell if any question of quality arises in any future transactions. My apologies to those I have offended and espcially to jester for his troubles.

CreepyCrawler
02-10-2008, 08:29 AM
wow talk about posting to get count up higher

Bowtie Binder
02-10-2008, 08:39 AM
I just apologized to all I have offended and said that it was my fault. What are you adding to this post, you little weazle?

CreepyCrawler
02-10-2008, 09:29 AM
your the weasel you :rainbow: . talkin shit about ppl and also someone makes a comment and you bash them saying they are trying to get there post count up and look at you every time you post its within a minute or 2 from last post and usually 3-5 posts one after another .. its ppl like you that makes it hard to buy n sell and trust online . you made it right with a cpl ppl but still look what they had to do to make it right Call you out on the boards ....if you cant tell if a part is damaged maybe you should Pay someone to inspect it so you can stand behind it that just sounded like a total bunch of BS you took out of box to take pics hmm those carv marks form an exploding r&P must be factory hmmm :flipoff2: .. as is no gaurantee usually is a Red Flag you know there is damage of the said item .. thats how i would see it .. nothing like getting ass raped with alil sand and passing the rape on to someone else .. right on keep up the good business :flipoff2:

Bowtie Binder
02-10-2008, 11:01 AM
like I said, you dont have anything to add and are a non-party to this issue. your just running your mouth. The original issue of this thread has been resolved, and the other is an ebay issue. So for all intents and purpose this thread should be over.

Just to entertain the notion that your opinion matters, I guess you saw the arb right? there were no carve marks and he is just speculating (look it up if you dont know what it means) that the r&p blew. I bought it under the notion it was ok. so thats how I sold it. I sold it as is because I hadn't used it, and couldn't vouch for it personally.

odin544
02-10-2008, 11:57 AM
Yes I should have examined it closer, but with no prior knowledge of an arb or its inner workings how am I, the laymen of lockers supposed to know the correct pneumatics of a used air locker. I didnt take out the center pin to check for true, I didnt open it up to make sure all the parts were there. I dont have an exploded view on print for me to compare to. That is why I listed it as a as is auction. Did the compressor work? yes I had a way to test that. I wasn't going to install the arb in my non-existent d60 plumb an air source and test it, so it once again falls back to the as-is listing. No I didnt want to sell it for $400 bucks but ebay wouldn't let me cancel the auction on the last day. I thought I had a useable (except for the air inlet) unit. I'm sorry to jester for his and my misfortune, His being a broke but fixable locker and mine being $500 out of my pocket. Please excuse my language I have used on this thread, it is out of my character to use such grammar (if you can call it that) I felt ganged upon and was taking care of each of my problems one at a time when people just started jumping on me with no prior knowlegde or interest other that to push me down in the mud, which I am trying to wash off at the moment. Using this as a position to move forward from. I will either inspect to my fullest ability or not sell if any question of quality arises in any future transactions. My apologies to those I have offended and espcially to jester for his troubles.

The fact of the matter is Bowtie Binder stepped up and took care of the original poster, and oldjeep. as far as jesters dealings on ebay he should have filed with paypal. I dont think he got a fair deal but thats what he should have done if he felt he was screwed.

If you would have came into this thread with the above attitude I think you would have gotten better responses.:beer:

Good luck in future dealings.

Big91RustyBucket
02-10-2008, 12:07 PM
The fact of the matter is Bowtie Binder stepped up and took care of the original poster, and oldjeep. as far as jesters dealings on ebay he should have filed with paypal. I dont think he got a fair deal but thats what he should have done if he felt he was screwed.

If you would have came into this thread with the above attitude I think you would have gotten better responses.:beer:

Good luck in future dealings.

Just because it was on ebay doesn't change anything. He claims he pulled it apart and re assembled. Surly he must have noticed abused parts. Even if it was ebay or not it is still the same guy ,and he seems to continue the same trends.This area is to also shine light on people who you should stay away from while selling. That is all jesster was doing.

Just remember a Forum is not to agree with everything everyone else says.
It is to share opinions , and Ideas with like minded individuals. I like to know about people I buy from so I think there is nothing wrong with what jesster said. Considering this guy is the same person. So :flipoff2:

Bowtie Binder
02-10-2008, 01:57 PM
Just because it was on ebay doesn't change anything. He claims he pulled it apart and re assembled. Surly he must have noticed abused parts. Even if it was ebay or not it is still the same guy ,and he seems to continue the same trends.This area is to also shine light on people who you should stay away from while selling. That is all jesster was doing.

Just remember a Forum is not to agree with everything everyone else says.
It is to share opinions , and Ideas with like minded individuals. I like to know about people I buy from so I think there is nothing wrong with what jesster said. Considering this guy is the same person. So :flipoff2:

I didnt claim I pulled it apart. where did I say that you need to reread. all I did was take it out of the box take a few pics for jester and put it right back in the same box. and what trend was that. The only person I supposedly "screwed was jester buy selling him parts that neither of us new weren't up to par till he received and disassembled. The others were a matter of money changing hands I had a house fire and these weren't my top priority. I sent extreme his carrier, and I gave the other guy a paypal refund. what else do you guys want me to do? I am in complete and total apology mode, and you guys just keep flinging shit like a cage full of pissed off monkeys. Once again I"M SORRY JESTER, IM SORRY EXTREME, and IM SORRY OLD JEEP.

Somebody tell me what else I need to do. I Just want to get this over with, read a little tech and work on my jeep.

jeepfamily
02-10-2008, 05:53 PM
Pretty sure this forum is for pirate4x4 sold items only.Ebay shit is what it is shit,if you buy anything from there your the friggin idiot.My .02