Just got back from Donner and hope Jeff only sees one screen not three. He did a double roll and it look like on the second he got knocked out but came too by the time it stopped. Medical said he was clear to go so he did but pointed out. JEFF YOU FULLY GOT IT ONNN. The only problem I say was I think the course was a little to hard. I only stayed at the first one. But I think only three or four made it. The rest rolled,broke( sorry Billy Bob ) or time or pointed out. But everyone was gettin it. I bow to you Jeff you the man

:beer: to Jeff, THAT FAWKIN ROCKED, only wish i woulda had my camera :( some one HAD to have that on video, and if its in the one the suburban white guys are making im buyin it for sure, that was fully cool:D

gotta have a pic to stir things up, well this was earlier in the day and my camera stopped working shortly after. its the same obsticle and what happened was jeff slid to the left of where the sammi is and the tire dropped down and he rolled 2wice and got his bell rung pretty well :eek:

BTW THE DUDE IN THE WHITE SHIRT IS A TOTAL FAWKHEAD, its clearly posted NO SMOKING and he had to be reminded of this TWICE!!!! not to mention his take on the day was "im gonna get drunk and watch some carnage cuz when im drunk stuffs cooler" fawkin moron :rolleyes: :shaking:

Another thing is one of the STUPID camera guys had a beer in his hand while he was on the course :shaking: thankfully Big Rich yanked his media pass and tossed him off the course. this isnt the message we want people to think of when they see rock crawling in the mags, im sure that photographer is in some pics with that can :shaking:

rant off ;) :D

oh yeah and the pic

that roll had to hurt. i told my wife "wanna see some good action? watch jeff cause he's either makin' it or breakin' it!":D
good action from everyone. thanks for the good time :beer:

Another thing is one of the STUPID camera guys had a beer in his hand while he was on the course thankfully Big Rich yanked his media pass and tossed him off the course. this isnt the message we want people to think of when they see rock crawling in the mags


Good for you guys...right ON! I was thinking, before I read the script....oh good - a pic of a fat sunburned moron with a beer - that's a great image!!

Now - I'm no prude, and like a beer - but not on the freakin course....dudes are risking their freakin necks out there - people need to have their wits about them...and the image thing too!

Beer's for campfires!

jeff rolled...Hmmmmmmmmmmm.... I'm having trouble picturing it....NOT!

Ice your mellon big guy!

dude in the pic isnt the camera guy with the beer, that was after my camera stopped workin, dude in the pic is just a stupidass:rolleyes:

:cool: I've got it on video but no way to transfer to the web.:(
Can someone in Sacto, do it??

It kicked a$$.

Jeff also looked like he might have hurt his left arm/shoulder. As he returned to the bottom of the hill he seemed to be favoring the left arm. Hope all is well.

The event was WAY harder than Big Rich was planning on. The first course was supposed to be easier. instead the list of those to make it was very short compared to the 20 rigs that attempted it. Fatkid, Lance, Bob Roggy, Tin-Bender, another bender who I can't remember for the life of me. I think one of the URJB guys made it and maybe a SRC. If I can't remember them please forgive me. :emb3:

Camo broke......what a surprise:p , and no it wasn't his new high $$$ rear D-60. it was his tranny.

It was a lot of fun and I finaly got to meet some of the people on this board,

Thanks to all of the judges and Big Rich for putting the event on,
And :beer: :beer: :beer: to the Four Clubs that made it possible.
Pirates of the Rubicon
Tin-Benders
URJB
SRC
(did I forget one??? I hope not)




Eric

i know the results.. because i just got back from donner judging and tallying the score.

Half of the people who attempted the last gate made it, so its not as bad as it seemed. Granted there were a few bad rolls.. shit happens..

You can not make a course so every body and their mother can make it..

Jeff even admited that he was impatient.. and should of relaxed. but he also said that he probably will never be able to do that.

The fundraiser turned out really well.. and the team that won deserved it..

Originally posted by Alpo23
It kicked a$$.

the list of those to make it was very short compared to the 20 rigs that attempted it.

Camo broke......what a surprise:p , and no it wasn't his new high $$$ rear D-60. it was his tranny.



Two people never did attempt it.. sam from src and scott from POR.. 8 people made it up that climb.. so i dont understand where the short list comes from

Camo did break.. never asked him what happened with the tranny.. but he got 1st gear working again.. but no reverse.

Damn near lost a finger when we were respooling his winch *ouch* still hurts.

He also broke a driverside birf on the front. Dont know when or where it happened.. didnt hear anything

may i say for a poor soul stuck here at work on a 4th of july night......post some pic's!!!!!! :D

Originally posted by high5
may i say for a poor soul stuck here at work on a 4th of july night......post some pic's!!!!!! :D

ditto

Originally posted by ImKuNfusED


Two people never did attempt it.. sam from src and scott from POR.. 8 people made it up that climb.. so i dont understand where the short list comes from

Camo did break.. never asked him what happened with the tranny.. but he got 1st gear working again.. but no reverse.

Damn near lost a finger when we were respooling his winch *ouch* still hurts.

He also broke a driverside birf on the front. Dont know when or where it happened.. didnt hear anything

Sorry, as a judge you were keeping better track of who did what than me, This was an impression of watching the event from the side lines.
I thought 6 and you said 8. no biggie.
Even so less than 50% successe on the first course is pretty :eek:

Anyway, it was a good time.


Eric

What happen to the guy in the white Cruiser I heard he rolled it pretty hard any pictures of it?

Originally posted by ImKuNfusED
i know the results.. because i just got back from donner judging and tallying the score.

Half of the people who attempted the last gate made it, so its not as bad as it seemed. Granted there were a few bad rolls.. shit happens..

You can not make a course so every body and their mother can make it..

Jeff even admited that he was impatient.. and should of relaxed. but he also said that he probably will never be able to do that.

The fundraiser turned out really well.. and the team that won deserved it..

Thats Great and all but WHO WON
Thanks form all as us who couldn't attend

I don't know if this is the same event or not but TripleBGirl asked me to upload some Carnage on the Con pics a few mins ago. :D

Click here for the pics (http://pirate4x4.net/mstevens/con_carnage/)

Originally posted by high5
may i say for a poor soul stuck here at work on a 4th of july night......post some pic's!!!!!! :D

It was a GREAT show! Congrats Tin Benders!!! :beer: :smokin: :D

Sooooo....who won??? :confused: :roxy:

Uhhhh, look above.... :eek: :beer: :flipoff2:

I agree that course #1 was a little tough. When we set them up Wednesday our intention was to avoid rollovers and an abundance of breakage. I guess we just misread that hill climb. The turnout was awesome. Thanks to everyone that showed up and supported the cause.
Congrats to the winners! :beer: :beer: :beer:

well here is the only pic I got of Jeff. But I did get the whole thing on video. However I don't know how to get it up loaded.:( I hope Jeff is feeling ok. That was some nasty shit.:rasta:

Great job to all.;)

Phil:usa:

I didn't think Jeff's rollover was so freakin 'Cool'. It was downright scary. He did two complete side rolls and got his bell rung pretty good. He appeared to actually be unconsious at the end of the last one, if only for a few seconds. His arms and legs went stiff and he had the throttle mashed to the floor for more than a few seconds before he came to his senses and released it. Good thing it wasn't in gear. :eek: I talked to him afterwards and he was still shaking. He's a tough guy but that was a nasty roll. Anybody get a shot of the red paint on his helmet. Ouch!!!

Jeff, I was glad to see you were not hurt more seriously. Wait till you see yourself on video. :eek:

Kudos to the Medics too. They brought a chair and had Jeff sit down so they could take a good look. We're glad you didn't have to do more than that... ;)

*rant on*

i agree glenn.. i believe its stupid for people to say rolls like that are cool.. do they understand what can happen or could happen.. That could of been a lot worse than what it was. Jeff probably will be hurtin in the morning.

I say stick all those people who think thats cool in their own rig.. roll them down the hill twice.. and see if they still think its cool

*rant off*

Glad to see you were fine Jeff.. I told you to keep the rubber side down, and i didnt mean in the air.. back down in the air and back down again :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

James

James,

You got it right on.

I'm sure none of these guys planned on destroying rigs for charity. These stages where as hard as any competition I've seen. The rolls on stage 1 where a pretty hard. Lots of fawked up rigs. Great time for the crowd but what's up with those lines.....

tony k

Tony.. from what i found out through out the day.. that course was set up.. unfortunatly with no prerun. It seemed doable.. and when i walked it that morning.. it did not seem as bad as it was.. Granted it was worthy of any compeitition out there, its just some people did not know how to go along doing it.. If you noticed.. the people who where set up to run a compeitition pretty much crawled it.

As you said... theres competition rigs.. and theres trail rigs.


Oh yeah.. the line on that one.. was far right.. and take out the right cone at the top, if you couldnt avoid it.. which normally the tire, once crested would slide away from the cone and complete a flawless gate.

and that waterfall took everyone by surprise.. even the people who set the courses up.. granted some of the roll overs could of been avoided, and some couldnt..

I cant say what could of made it avoidable.. thats for the competors to say, because they knew what they did wrong

yeah it was cool but i was still concerned for jeff, i saw his upper boddy floppin around after the first roll and saw that he was still doin that when he stopped, then i saw him come to. thankfully SAR SAMMY was one of the first to rush to his aid and make sure he was ok. jeff definitly WAS hurting, after he got back down and was sitting you could see him holding his head and babying his shoulder. the only reason i personally think it was cool was because its kinda jeffs style, make it or break it. i mean every event ive seen him in hes just broke or broke doing something like he did today.what happened at moonrocks was just odd, he wasnt throttling it and bouncing around. i hope jeff is ok, like glenn said if you saw the paint on his helmet you would know how bad he got his bell rung, atleast he hit it on the rollbar instead of the ground which coulda gotten the rest of his face too.
btw, i liked how the judges kinda forgot about the counting and stops as the day progressed :flipoff2:

who i remember getting over the wall
all the benders cept camo :D
roggy and lance for POR
cant remember any of the SRC
blue CJ from URJB

That was a kick ass event. To big Rich i promise ill start competing as soon as i get a daily driver. And Jeff you just flat out are the SHIT!!!!! That was bad ass!!!!! and were all glad your OK. But to all that broke like scott(Billy Bob) shit happens but the good news is, good old Welder Boy brought Scott a new nuckel and they got it fixed, but when looking at the other side it had a crack in it too. Hopefully they get it fixed so i can take my "brothers" jeep through the box and put on a show SAT!!!!!:beer:

Originally posted by Brad

btw, i liked how the judges kinda forgot about the counting and stops as the day progressed :flipoff2:

trust me.. we were still counting at the end.. might have not been as loud and granted we might have missed something.. but i was fawking tired

Originally posted by ImKuNfusED


trust me.. we were still counting at the end.. might have not been as loud and granted we might have missed something.. but i was fawking tired

i know i was there the whole time, bout 10 feet down from billy bobs rig, right near where rich yanked that dumbasses media pass. im just givin u shit cuz i know you had a long day(how the hell can you wear pants when its that damn hot??) i thought it was funny cuz the URJB guys had to remind one of the guys and they thought the pirates got more leiniencey(sp?) anyway glad i went after waking up late this morning:D

ok still thinkin bout the great time i had today, best laugh ive had in a LONG time

Lance to CAMO when camo is stuck
(shouting) IS THAT A TOYOTA FRONT AXLE?????

Camo back
talking,not yelling back
fuck you
:laughing: way to egg him on lance, that was great, got a good view of camos buggy when he pulled it off course, that thing is DAAAAYUUUUM NICE:eek: anyway fun day


another thought just went through my head(no pun intended, youll understand after i say...) the chicks that were with the SRC guys were fawkin gorgeous.:D

and do any of the Tin Benders have rigs that arent more tube than body?? i think fatkid and jeff are the only ones resembling actual vehichles(well the ones that competed today, i know some have toyota trucks)

Originally posted by Brad

and do any of the Tin Benders have rigs that arent more tube than body?? i think fatkid and jeff are the only ones resembling actual vehichles(well the ones that competed today, i know some have toyota trucks)

I do:D

Congrats guys, I knew we'd bring it home;) Just wish I was able to attend:D

BADD_ASS ACTION!!! but a little to much for my Jeep...

After watching half of the competitors destroy their trucks, I let Mike Ladd take my spot. I know that Big Rich underestimated the course. He did not expect any rollovers, except for those that were looking to intentionally flop their trucks.

Props to all those that wheeled hard and made it look easy. Its pretty obvious who the competition wheelers are from the way they handled the course. Roggy blew me away with his effortless waterfall climb on course 1 :eek: I owe him a bottle of vodka :flipoff2:

...and Jeff, you are the craziest sumbitch I've even seen wheel. I hope you live to see your next birthday:rasta:

Here are two good pics:

http://www.sierrarockcrawlers.com/community/rocktoy/DSC00004.JPG

http://www.sierrarockcrawlers.com/community/rocktoy/DSC00022.JPG

dayum...

Hope your melon is ok Jeff :(

Put something cold in it :beer:

So, whose got a vid they wanna sell me :)

Overall Team scores were as follows

Tin Benders 253 Points
Pirates of the Rubicon 301 Points
URJB 327 Points
Sierra Rock Crawlers 343 Points

And although it was a team event if anyone is curious the
Individual top 5 finishers for the day.

1st - Bob Roggy 23 Points
2nd - Mike Hendricks 27 Points
3rd - Lance Clifford 32 Points
4th - Fatkid 35 Points
5th - Mike Ladd 42 Points

Just to clear up about course 1 and the hill climb. 6 people made it up either the left line or the bonus right line. They are

(Tin Benders) Fatkid 20pts
(Pirates) Lance 29 pts
(Pirates) Bob 15 pts (should have been 5 but he barely touched the start gate with his tire)
(URJB) Tom Martin 21 pts (took the bonus line)
(Tin Benders) John James 27 pts (may have taken bonus line?)
(Tin Benders) Mike Hendricks 14 pts (may have taken bonus line?)

i thought someone said eight completed it..

Oh well i was wrong.. it was late and i was tired

Originally posted by Taylor
What happen to the guy in the white Cruiser I heard he rolled it pretty hard any pictures of it?

That's Eric "Freshman" on this board we're with (URJB). Eric rolled really hard too and was the #3 competitor on the course. Jeff(h8monday) did the exact same roll but his was a little worse than eric's. Eric was ok physically after the roll, can't say much for the cruiser though. The cruiser got the bent rear link fixed thanks to some cool guys from sugarbowl. But the cruiser went back to the parking lot and eric drove the URJB jeep on the upper course.

I still think Troy from the Pirates had the worst rollover of the day on that upper course. If you saw his cage you would understand :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Originally posted by Danger Ranger


That's Eric "Freshman" on this board we're with (URJB). Eric rolled really hard too and was the #3 competitor on the course. Jeff(h8monday) did the exact same roll but his was a little worse than eric's. Eric was ok physically after the roll, can't say much for the cruiser though. The cruiser got the bent rear link fixed thanks to some cool guys from sugarbowl. But the cruiser went back to the parking lot and eric drove the URJB jeep on the upper course.

I still think Troy from the Pirates had the worst rollover of the day on that upper course. If you saw his cage you would understand :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I would like to see his cage since it is basically what I run!

Originally posted by Brad


and do any of the Tin Benders have rigs that arent more tube than body?? i think fatkid and jeff are the only ones resembling actual vehichles(well the ones that competed today, i know some have toyota trucks)

Originally posted by Mustard Dog
I do :D

here ya go!!!
Mustard Dog's trail rig... Ketchup Dog! ;)

anybody catch the front cover of the InGear?

Glad to see calrocs in the InGear, and nice front page shot H8 ;)

Originally posted by ImKuNfusED
*rant on*


I say stick all those people who think thats cool in their own rig.. roll them down the hill twice.. and see if they still think its cool



James

your not kunfused your a pussy. that was the coolest roll. and yes i have rolled that hard and harder. i have even been medivaced out in a helicopter after doing three end over end rollls at 70 MPH in the mint 400 desert race. and that my friend was the coolsest wheeling i have ever done. i even have a 5 photo sequence of it hanging in my shop. my wife rolled twice backwards down a bigger hill than that in farmington new mexico in the womens rock crawl and it rung her bell good. he first words when i got to the rig was " god i hope we can finish the course" but of course we could not because she totaled the rig. if i die doing this shit than that will be exactly the way i want to go.

Originally posted by Alpo23


Camo broke......what a surprise:p , and no it wasn't his new high $$$ rear D-60. it was his tranny.


Eric

no i didn't break my unbreakable $$$ rear axle i broke my so called bullet broof sm420 :D got it fixed late that night at bogus's shop and headed for the con.

maybe i need a 300m tranny :flipoff2: actually it was just the stupid reverse shift fork nut took a crap. arrrggg

manual eh? For some reason I thought you had an auto..

a 420 with nitrous he he

Well I can say they shift a hell of a lot better than a NP435 :(

(dats what I got in my truck, 420 in the jeep)

brandon.

main reason i got the NOS was because of the sm420. on huge dunes there is no way to make a shift. so with the nos i can start in a taller gear and use the nos.

Originally posted by ImKuNfusED


trust me.. we were still counting at the end.. might have not been as loud and granted we might have missed something.. but i was fawking tired

i thought you guys all did a great job. it is competition and some times you get a good call and some time you get a bad call. i don't care if it is our carnage for the con or the super bowl it is a very hard job being the judge and you guys did a great job and from what i saw were fair and consistent from start to finish.

once again thanks for your effort.

Originally posted by camo


no i didn't break my unbreakable $$$ rear axle i broke my so called bullet broof sm420 :D got it fixed late that night at bogus's shop and headed for the con.

maybe i need a 300m tranny :flipoff2: actually it was just the stupid reverse shift fork nut took a crap. arrrggg


Ok, inquiring minds want to know. which broke, the left hub or the left axle shaft in the toy front end?
nobody around me heard any noise and yet the left tire was just along for the ride.

Between you and Roggy I thought the two of you were driving the smoothest and I was real bumbed to see you break and withdraw.

Eric

Jeff's roll was cool.. but when his body when flailing outside the rig, and the chance of it going over again, thats when it got scary.. Along with the medical crew.. i was one of the first people down there.. and told jeff.. You have 8 minutes left.. you can still go if you want. Im glad he is alright.

Ive seen a few of your rolls camo.. Granted none of them that you had to be airlifted out for. No matter how cool a roll is.. you dont want anyone getting hurt.

Hopefully we(calrocs) get to see more of you competiting. I know you will give everyone a run for their money

James

Originally posted by camo
brandon.

main reason i got the NOS was because of the sm420. on huge dunes there is no way to make a shift. so with the nos i can start in a taller gear and use the nos.

When my jeep has a T10 it was a blast in the dunes, close ratio 4 speed could launch off of em. Actually haven't gone with the 420 though

Alpo

it was a sad and stupid moment for me. actually nothing in the front actually broke. when gearman and i were assemblying the front end we used an old style detroit locker and you need to run a martack on the axle. his welder was not in the shop so we used a punch and put a dimple in the splines. well it was not enuff and the inner axle just fell out of the birfield. hence no front wheel action. :( it was a stupid prep error on my part. the resulting effert at trying to force the the rig over the rock caused the tranny to bind up real hard and caused the reverse shift fork in my sm420 tranny to pop out of the shift rail due to the adjusting nut being slightly loose. again and error by the shop that rebuilt my tranny. keep in mind that this was the first time my rig had seen rock since new years because it was completly disassembled and rebuilt. just some of the bugs that i should have had worked out before taking it to a comp. thanks for the props on my driving. i was 3 feet from the finish and would have had a negitive 4 points for the obstacle. i had 5 back ups and one stop. ( fyi i think the best score of the obstacle was 11 points. :D )


imkunfused.

take a look at any desert race truck or buggy. or for that matter a NASCAR. they us window nets to keep body parts inside of the rig. i think we should as well and if i was intent on actually running my rig in competitions i would have window nets even if the rules did not reguire them.

story time:

back about ten years ago we were prerunning the mint 400 race course and a fellow competetior rolled his pre runner. back then your pre runner was not required to run window nets like the race car. well when he rolled his arm got caught under the cage and the car caught on fire. we tryed to get him out of the car but the fire spread to quickly and he burnt to death right in front of me. needless to say that even to this day i think about that every time i flop my rig and when i watch guys roll. in my opinion window nets should be installed on all comp rock rigs to keep body parts inside during a roll.

Originally posted by camo

if i die doing this shit than that will be exactly the way i want to go.

The fawkin cool part about this is I believe you!:beer: :beer:

camo, callin it how he sees it!

Originally posted by FlatBroke1


The fawkin cool part about this is I believe you!:beer: :beer:

camo, callin it how he sees it!


LOL sure sounds better than dieing of a heart attack sitting behind my desk selling glitter. :D

Originally posted by TONY K
James,

You got it right on.

I'm sure none of these guys planned on destroying rigs for charity. These stages where as hard as any competition I've seen. The rolls on stage 1 where a pretty hard. Lots of fawked up rigs. Great time for the crowd but what's up with those lines.....

tony k

dude what are you talking about. i was prepared to completly destroy my rig in order to win. i can not speak for the other teams but the tin benders came to win and every one of us was willing to completly GET IT ! at all cost. if every one of us benders had to roll our rigs down a 15 foot rock face the way h8monday did in order to win then we would have. when we are out wheeling the hammers as a club we run harder lines than the course was set up.

we laugh. we were happy to break and roll to raise money to help save the con. after all what if we didn't have anywhere to wheel, because all the trails were closed ?

camo - I have heard and seen a lot of things and that one is right up at the top :(

Originally posted by Brandon
camo - I have heard and seen a lot of things and that one is right up at the top :(

what are you refering to? and why the :( ?

Originally posted by camo



LOL sure sounds better than dieing of a heart attack sitting behind my desk selling glitter. :D

I thought about this and I don't know if people know exactly how important "hardcore" people are.

I am a roadrace fan and remember back (not that long ago) when Alex Zanardi was (still is) the shit! He lived life more than most of us ever will. He dominated CART and F1 and then returned to CART to stir it up there. He was involved in one of the most horrific crashes I've ever seen. I read a Sports Illustrated interview with him and he has the most awesome attitude. I remember him saying that Max Papis called him shortly after he was released from the hospital and asked him what he was doing. His response was, "about 200 km/h!" He was driving his car with hand controls down the Autobahn at 140 m/h. Does he regret his life?.....HELL NO!

Does he want to race again?......HELL YES!

CART was on top of the world when he was winning races. His trademark donuts (He did it way before Nascar drivers did) bought him and CART fans all over the world.

I'm not saying that if you win a rockcrawling event that you should do an end over end roll. But, rolls are an iminent part of rockcrawling events.

I'm glad H8monday is alright. A cool rollover is any one that the driver and spectators/spotter walks away from.

Edit
When do monster truck fans jump to their feet cheering?

Right after one of the trucks flops on its side.

Originally posted by camo


your not kunfused your a pussy. that was the coolest roll. and yes i have rolled that hard and harder. i have even been medivaced out in a helicopter after doing three end over end rollls at 70 MPH in the mint 400 desert race. and that my friend was the coolsest wheeling i have ever done<snip>

Funny, I always thought that winning (or even finishing for that matter) competitions was cool. I guess that I don't "get it".

well i must say that was a awsome roll and i like the rest of you cheered it on. thats why you go to those events to see the rolls and carnage if there wasnt any of that would any of you be there. jeff like the rest of us no the risks going in to a event and thats what it is all about. nobody wants anyone to get hurt but we all no it is a possibility. :beer: to jeff and the rest of you that made it all happen :D as for the tinbenders :flipoff2: we will see ya next year hehehe and by then im sure there will be more safty rules implemented in our sport. my new buggy will have some NASCAR tech in it like the remote battery cutoff and window nets just to name a few. we might not be goin as fast but accidents are a part of this sport .

Originally posted by Dirty Harry


Funny, I always thought that winning (or even finishing for that matter) competitions was cool. I guess that I don't "get it".

well considering that h8monday is a tin bender and WE did win I guess that makes him even cooler. and my guess is that he is sure to get magazine coverage as well from it. so what part don't you get.

1. he did win.
2. he put on a great show for the fans.
3. he is sure to get alot of media coverage for his effort.

whats so hard to understand about that?

Camo,

I have no questions in my mind that you would lay it all out of the line for this and any other event. And as long as the Cruiser guy is happy with the way things turned out then so be it.

My point all along has been, It's not Rich's deal to protect you from yourself, any driver can pass on a stage if he's not up to it .

Everyone freeking out n the board this weekend are all about one thing. A few rigs where out of control on thursday and they don't like that.

The fact still remains, the Tin Benders are the best this year and nothing should take that away.

see ya,

tony k

Just one more thought.....

Almost every competitor is doing these events without insurance. Your auto policy and home owners insurance prohibit competition of any kind. The event promoter doesn't cover you very well. That means your only line of defense is staying in control of your rig.

The only guy I know that has the correct insurance is walker Evans.

So when I see a rig with the gas peddle on the floor and the lights aren't on in his head, I see all of this fun coming to an end. Jeff got a house? Does he want to give it to someone on the side of that hill?

Stay in control...quickest way out of control is to roll it over...period.

I had a great time and so did my FJ. My talked my mom (who doesn't go wheeling) into coming to watch for the first time but she wont be back. Her and my girl friend are crying when my FJ rolled. Oh well, they will get over it. I will be back next year and I am sure I will have just as much fun. Everybody seemed to be a good sport and very friendly. Thanks everybody for a good time and I look forward to see all you on the trail.

Originally posted by TONY K

Everyone freeking out n the board this weekend are all about one thing. A few rigs where out of control on thursday and they don't like that.


tony k

i guess it is all a matter of perspective. i was there and saw all the action. and i didn't see anything that was out of control. just a bunch of guys wheeling hard and gettin it.

Originally posted by Freshman
I had a great time and so did my FJ. My talked my mom (who doesn't go wheeling) into coming to watch for the first time but she wont be back. Her and my girl friend are crying when my FJ rolled. Oh well, they will get over it. I will be back next year and I am sure I will have just as much fun. Everybody seemed to be a good sport and very friendly. Thanks everybody for a good time and I look forward to see all you on the trail.

you had on of the cleanest cruisers i have ever seen actually wheeling and you my friend were GETTING IT !. sounds like you have the right mind set for the game. FYI even when my mom goes to the desert races she does not actually go out to the desert and watch. she says it makes her to nervous. must be a mom thing.

post some detail pics of your smashed rig. we want to see the carnage.

Originally posted by Freshman
I had a great time and so did my FJ. My talked my mom (who doesn't go wheeling) into coming to watch for the first time but she wont be back. Her and my girl friend are crying when my FJ rolled. Oh well, they will get over it. I will be back next year and I am sure I will have just as much fun. Everybody seemed to be a good sport and very friendly. Thanks everybody for a good time and I look forward to see all you on the trail.

Hate to see your Cruiser go over, it looks great!

Thank you all, for the concerne and the applause.

Yes I am 100% OK.

The TIN:skull:BENDERS, had a great day on the rocks, and we did what we needed to do, to take the victory.

The courses were challenging, but not overly difficult, its just that my big mistake of the day, turned out to be pretty spectacular.

I ran the 1st course, (up to the rollover) excactly the way Dan and I, had planned it. We had only had only accumulated 13 points by the time I made the bottom of then last climb, and I still had 8 minutes left. I made an attempt to crawl it, but I was getting almost no traction at all on the loose material. I made 2 light throttle charges at the hill, to test how it felt. I thought it fely alright and I was confident that a hard charge at the hill would get the job done,......I was wrong. I hit the hole that Lance had dug durring his full awn charge up the hill, and launched me off the hill.
I slammed the tranny out of gear as I was going over(but some people have told me that it was trying to climb when it landed????). The 1st hit rang my bell, and although I didnt go to sleep, I was very disoriented, and could not even pull my foot off of the throttle, even though I was looking at my foot(it was actually planted on the brake pedal and the throttle) and tried to remove it.
In any case, whan I finally stopped rolling, I was awake.
I landed on the tires and tried to continue, but I was just too disoriented, and pointed out after hitting a few more cones just trying to turn around.
The Safety crew did a great job, of checking me out, and remained concerned about me throughout the day.

I totaly agree that its OK for the spectators to think that rollovers are cool. They are totaly exciting!
But from a competitors point of view, it is the last thing that you want to do when your in a competition. Rollovers very often cause you to point out on that course, and sometimes even end your day. In a team event, it affects your entire team.
The rollover was a miscalculation, and cost our team 40 points on course number 1,....but if anyone was paying attention, I lined up on the upper course about an hour later, and with my knees knocking and my heart pounding, we put together an excelent run for 17 points.

The rollover was a wild ride, and Im glad I didnt hurt anyone.
I am deffinitely rethinking many components of my cockpit, controls and cage.

jeff

i only briefly looked over your rig after the event. but am curious. how badly if at all is the cage bent? any welds crack or fail? any other bent ot busted parts from the hit ?

Originally posted by camo
jeff

i only briefly looked over your rig after the event. but am curious. how badly if at all is the cage bent? any welds crack or fail? any other bent ot busted parts from the hit ?

Just some small dents in the cage.
Rock rash is eveident everywhere, including one of the rear discs, had a chunk knocked out of it.
I traded a lot of paint between the cage and my helmet.
Mechanicaly, though its very sound, I took it back too Dans and looked it over for a couple 0f hours, then went out to the Con and spent the weekend wheeling(I took it easy though, and mostly kicked back at camp and drank).:beer:

Originally posted by Brandon
anybody catch the front cover of the InGear?

Glad to see calrocs in the InGear, and nice front page shot H8 ;)


I havent seen it,....am I on the cover?:eek:

somebody scan that sucker and post it.

Originally posted by H8monday


Just some small dents in the cage.
Rock rash is eveident everywhere, including one of the rear discs, had a chunk knocked out of it.
I traded a lot of paint between the cage and my helmet.
Mechanicaly, though its very sound, I took it back too Dans and looked it over for a couple 0f hours, then went out to the Con and spent the weekend wheeling(I took it easy though, and mostly kicked back at camp and drank).:beer:


glad to hear your ok......... from the talks weve had i know you were getting it and are pretty damned serious bout this sport...... i want some video of this! the tranny didnt break? :D good deal......... let me know if you got a vid of this........

later bro....... :beer:

Originally posted by camo


if i die doing this shit than that will be exactly the way i want to go.


i can honestly say if im gonna die id rather it be this way than being killed while at work by some piece of shit....... shit everything i do even my job is a gamble............... which ones gonna get me first?

Originally posted by Brad

another thought just went through my head(no pun intended, youll understand after i say...) the chicks that were with the SRC guys were fawkin gorgeous.:D



HAHA
Yea, chicks dig the LIME GREEN'n Black, not skulls and cross bones!!!:smokin:


Good to hear you're ok H8monday, I was getting chills when you rolled against the side wall, you hit it hard and there were spectators within like 2feet from where you hit.

The event rocked, I loved it. Loads of fun!

I'd never competed before and boy did i get spanked. 40's on both sections and i didnt even roll it! and the club got last place AGAIN, you guys just wait, we will be back next year to kick some booty!!!

and camo, why are you running a toyota axle?

Originally posted by Diesel Junkie

......
and camo, why are you running a toyota axle?

BAAHAHAHAHAHAHA :laughing:
Lance shouting at camo when he was stuck
IS THAT A TOYOTA FRONT AXLE???

lol
camo's responsefawk u :D

you heard that? LOL didn't think i yelled my responce back that loud. hehehehe

Originally posted by camo
you heard that? LOL didn't think i yelled my responce back that loud. hehehehe

:laughing: i was like 5 feet from lance. laughed my ass off for 5 mins almost, i was lookin at you when he said it and kinda read your lips and expected that response anyway:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Brandon

I would like to see his cage since it is basically what I run!
I saw Chris Collard taking closeups of the inside of Troy's cab,
just after the roll, with the flash turned on.
He was one of those with a press pass, and could get better pics.
Not sure where (or if) he posts his pics, though.
I took one, but it didn't turn out that good. I'll send it to you.

What kind of helmet was H8 wearing ?

- jack

Originally posted by morpheus
What kind of helmet was H8 wearing ?

- jack

what the guys on harleys wear, covers your dome to above your ears.

Originally posted by whitetoy

I saw Chris Collard taking closeups of the inside of Troy's cab,
just after the roll, with the flash turned on.
He was one of those with a press pass, and could get better pics.
Not sure where (or if) he posts his pics, though.
I took one, but it didn't turn out that good. I'll send it to you.

Did tyou take this pic, or Jade? I can get a pretty good idea from it :)


http://www.rivercityrockcrawlers.com/BBSups//Pirateinsidecagedamagebrntoy.jpg

Originally posted by H8monday



I havent seen it,....am I on the cover?:eek:

Yea, you are the full cover shot at moon rocks..

So glad to see some rock crawl stuff hit the InGear!

(Bout time!)

WOW Troy's cab is smashed! Whats the plan now? Tube buggy or cab swap? I know he has been running the cab for years now. I remember when he lived down in Roseville back in the day.

my guess is he will chop it off, and weld another on. I talked to him about taking the top off like mine in the past and he wasn't too interested - but who knows..

Originally posted by Brandon


Yea, you are the full cover shot at moon rocks..

So glad to see some rock crawl stuff hit the InGear!

(Bout time!)

Wow, thats really cool.
Does anyone know where I could get a copy of this edition?
Thanks,

Originally posted by H8monday


Wow, thats really cool.
Does anyone know where I could get a copy of this edition?
Thanks,

central keeps em on the counter, not toooo far from ya.

Here is the one I got off

http://dkg.elmo-the-dog.com/pictures/1026156736.66.229.4.246.jpg

Wow, thats really cool.
Does anyone know where I could get a copy of this edition?
The article is a reprint of the article first published on www.4x4Wire.com here: http://www.4x4wire.com/events/2002/calroc/reno/ courtesy of Kimber Rau and Randy Wheeler.

Jeff, if you want a copy of the newsletter, I have one at home, and work in Rocklin, which is close enough to you.... drop me an email at: randii@4x4wire.com

Randii

Originally posted by randii
Wow, thats really cool.
Does anyone know where I could get a copy of this edition?
The article is a reprint of the article first published on www.4x4Wire.com here: http://www.4x4wire.com/events/2002/calroc/reno/ courtesy of Kimber Rau and Randy Wheeler.

Jeff, if you want a copy of the newsletter, I have one at home, and work in Rocklin, which is close enough to you.... drop me an email at: randii@4x4wire.com

Randii

Thanks, Randii
Im working at the 24 Hour Fitness in Rancho Cordova tomorrow, so ill swing by the Central 4WD on Folsom, and see if they have a copy. If they dont have any copies, Id sure like to take you up on the offer. My rig had never been in any magazines,...its kinda cool:D

Here are some pics Alpo and I took.

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Jul/2002781951019157758091.jpg

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Jul/2002788450234250275752.jpg

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Jul/2002784824629980678064.jpg

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Jul/2002786644997800752572.jpg

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Jul/2002782727748305931920.jpg

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Jul/2002781025049926695204.jpg

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Jul/2002787137917114396231.jpg

Gawd I had to laugh when I saw flatty go over! It's all about the flex!!!!:laughing:

That is sam in the "Slinky" with Ant riding.

"Flatty" is aka Dimitri. He sold his.

H8 You were fully getting it!!! As was everyone! Im glad to have seen both you and Troy were OK!!! What I got to see was great you all did a good job and looked like you were all having fun (exclusion of the whiners and the Canyon Krawlers/Copouts):flipoff2: All I wondered was...Where were the suport vehicles?


GET IT:beer: :D