I begining my disco two moth ago and I am very happy by the results.
I think we finish the car about July.
There is a link to youtube my car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHuSc0707VQ

And there are some photos my friend and I in a Off road competition here in Tenerife (Canary Island)
http://i115.imagethrust.com/t/720332/29983.jpg (http://i115.imagethrust.com/images/31og/view-image/29983.html)
http://i116.imagethrust.com/t/720333/foto6eatbypg.jpg (http://i116.imagethrust.com/images/31oh/view-image/foto6eatbypg.html)
http://i108.imagethrust.com/t/720334/foto6zlwygdy.jpg (http://i108.imagethrust.com/images/31oi/view-image/foto6zlwygdy.html)
http://i113.imagethrust.com/t/720335/foto66derv8l.jpg (http://i113.imagethrust.com/images/31oj/view-image/foto66derv8l.html)
http://i109.imagethrust.com/t/720336/fotoccbsjefc.jpg (http://i109.imagethrust.com/images/31ok/view-image/fotoccbsjefc.html)
http://i115.imagethrust.com/t/720337/fotoq4qneete.jpg (http://i115.imagethrust.com/images/31ol/view-image/fotoq4qneete.html)
http://i113.imagethrust.com/t/720338/fotofub3x4hl.jpg (http://i113.imagethrust.com/images/31om/view-image/fotofub3x4hl.html)
http://i102.imagethrust.com/t/720339/fotodi3igz8c.jpg (http://i102.imagethrust.com/images/31on/view-image/fotodi3igz8c.html)
http://i117.imagethrust.com/t/720340/fotowfj8sjdk.jpg (http://i117.imagethrust.com/images/31oo/view-image/fotowfj8sjdk.html)
http://i113.imagethrust.com/t/720341/fotom448rby3.jpg (http://i113.imagethrust.com/images/31op/view-image/fotom448rby3.html)

git'r done

I don´t know what is git'r done. Sorry I don´t know speak english very well

I don´t know what is git'r done. Sorry I don´t know speak english very well

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=git+r+done

Ok, thank you very much

There are some photos my disco

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9703/dscf0114re6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3412/dscf0118so6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/339/dscf0512qp5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Very nice...411 diffs I assume?
I wish I lived in a country where portals were plentiful.....that way, I would have a reason to swap them in to any vehicle.

What are the specs on the drivetrain....I see an atlas and what looks to be a 435 or NV3500 for the tranny.

Where are you from?
Corvette engine? Nv4500? Atlas? Mog Axles? Very nice!

-Jeff

Very nice...411 diffs I assume?
I wish I lived in a country where portals were plentiful.....that way, I would have a reason to swap them in to any vehicle.

What are the specs on the drivetrain....I see an atlas and what looks to be a 435 or NV3500 for the tranny.

The axles are a 406 portal axles with a modificate hummer wheels.

The specs are a LS1 chevrolet corvette engine with a dodge NV4500 gearbox, kluneV and Atlas 2.
Here in Canary Island (Tenerife) there are a range rover with chevrolet 502 engine, unimog 404 axles, automatic TH400 gearbox and atlas 2 and is impresionant. I think my disco is similar but I have 150Hp less than the my friend range rover.

why the kluneV and the Atlas?

why the kluneV and the Atlas?

Becouse I want a low,low..... gear.....je,je:smokin:

what's the crawl ratio with everything in low?

what's the crawl ratio with everything in low?

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeealy slow. PT could walk faster, emphysema and all! :flipoff2:

-Jeff

any more pics of that unimog in the comp?

what's the crawl ratio with everything in low?

The axles are 6:51, NV4500 1º is 5:65, Klune V is 2:71(I Think) and atlas2 is 3:8, but I have a 44" tyres.
Sorry I haven´t more photos this Unimog. This Unimog is my friend propierty and in this competition he went a rescate vehicle. He have a Mercedes G with a V8 engine and 38,5" super swamper.

I don´t know what is git'r done. Sorry I don´t know speak english very well

Sorry, my redneck way of describing how very interesting you're project is and that I look forward to seeing it done.

Will that be road legal in Tenerife?

If so I will be moving there soon.

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeealy slow. PT could walk faster, emphysema and all! :flipoff2:

-JeffLOL - I am sure he'll bring the pace up this weekend at SEMA offroad!

378:1 crawl ratio...wow...that's 2.5x what I have (on 42s) and I get bored driving that slow...:flipoff2:

Sorry, my redneck way of describing how very interesting you're project is and that I look forward to seeing it done.

Will that be road legal in Tenerife?

If so I will be moving there soon.

Here in tenerife I have to do a project with an Industrial Engenier and in Madrid a Laboratory give me a document. I need too a certificated of a mecanical shop and after I have to go to Goverment control (ITV) Tecnical inspection of the vehicle and I have to cumplir a requisits. I pay the proyect about 2200$:mad3: And if I am very affortunetly i could to go to streat.

I think that in EEUU you are an afortunatly becouse you can to do what you want in the cars and no problem. Here is very dificult.

Hey, when you become to Tenerife give me a mail and I can a day to go with my friend to do What in America sais ROCKCRAWLER.:grinpimp:

Discodino, you disco is fantastic. Here now the land rover people are to put in the land rovers a Toyota HDJ80, Toyota 61,nissan GR, Maxidrive land rover, Longfield land rover and toyota and ascroft axles.

What do you want about the heavy duty land rover and CV´s axles. What do you think are the best, Longfield, ascroft, kam, maxidrive..... I aren´t sure.

This week we go to a LAS ERAS barranco. Monday I put some photos my rockcrauling friends.

no offense, but the Klune seems like a waste of money and rear driveshaft length for a crawl ratio you couldn't take advantage of if your tires stuck to everything like glue and could climb vertical walls. with wide enough tires you'll probably be able to pull full cement trucks out of the mud...

Thanks - I'm pretty pleased with the Jac Mac axles and 27 Spline Chromo from Bobby Long...4 years running on them and no issues...

If I were to do things again, I'd go to Keith at Rovertracks, and would run 4.1s in the Diff...but yeah, winning formula for 37-39" "light" tires on a Rover housing with mild power, an Auto & comfy weight levels...

Thanks Discodino.

This is the car my friend Goyo in a goverment control pass for homologate his car. He have to put a front down the bar another bar, and rear too.He have a safary gard front suspension, simex 36" tyres, toyota Hdj80 axles and range rover 3.9 V8 engine.
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1336/dscf0487uw2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6789/dscf0489sq4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And this is another photos my car

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7770/dscf0498ue2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This is a Defender 300tdi my good friend Justo with a front 3-link to safari gard, rear Equipe suspension, bfgoodrich 35"tyres rear kam axles, ARB lockers, 4;1 gear..........
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/4470/dscf0330vl3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/5356/dscf0332nz7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/5232/dscf0336nf6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And my friend Cristian with a Land rover Discovery tdi pick up range.
This car is althougt in revision, je,je...
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6114/dscf0371jm3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/774/dscf0373ob9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
And finally the Cristian car and my new adquisition a Discovery td5

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7181/dscf0380zo3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Sorry there are so much photos:grinpimp:

The Photos Look Great!

Good stuff man. Thanks for the pics.

Very nice...

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/1517/dscf0093im7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

no offense, but the Klune seems like a waste of money and rear driveshaft length for a crawl ratio you couldn't take advantage of if your tires stuck to everything like glue and could climb vertical walls. with wide enough tires you'll probably be able to pull full cement trucks out of the mud...

I disagree

I've got mog axles, the regular lt230 and an Ashcroft underdrive - and I really, really like the pinpoint control it affords you when your near vertical climbing something. You can always disengage the crawler if you want to spin them :)

It also allows you very nice slow control on drop offs without touching your brakes.

Looks good!

Great looking build. Can't wait for updates. Keep us all in the loop as much as you can!

I disagree

I've got mog axles, the regular lt230 and an Ashcroft underdrive - and I really, really like the pinpoint control it affords you when your near vertical climbing something. You can always disengage the crawler if you want to spin them :)

It also allows you very nice slow control on drop offs without touching your brakes.

378:1 is a good bit past the usefull crawl ratio which most people seem to think is in the 170-200:1 range. 2mph at 5000 rpms is not that usefull. as for pinpoint control with no brakes, you're brakes likely couldn't stop your vehicle with that kind of crawl ratio.

cool build none the less.

378:1 is a good bit past the usefull crawl ratio which most people seem to think is in the 170-200:1 range. 2mph at 5000 rpms is not that usefull. as for pinpoint control with no brakes, you're brakes likely couldn't stop your vehicle with that kind of crawl ratio.

cool build none the less.

Seriously, STFU unless you can prove to us that you have any useful experience with anything that your talking about. I am running out of patience for your bullshit.

You don't even understand what your responding to.

378:1 is a good bit past the usefull crawl ratio which most people seem to think is in the 170-200:1 range. 2mph at 5000 rpms is not that usefull. as for pinpoint control with no brakes, you're brakes likely couldn't stop your vehicle with that kind of crawl ratio.

cool build none the less.

Plenty of folks have higher crawl ratio's than 200:1 and very much like it (I'm at about 250:1). The point is you don't have to actually "use" your brakes. And if you want to stop, merely clutch and brake if your worried about "overpowering" your brakes.

Until you actually have a crawler/underdrive/doubler and experience it on extreme terrain that is near vertical in both directions your input is hearsay and webwheeling at best.

i've got dual cases in my 84 toyota pickup. about 108:1. just b/c my rover isn't finished, doesn't mean i don't wheel.

also, clutching and braking isn't really an option when 90% of the RRC's and Disco's here are automatics...

i've got dual cases in my 84 toyota pickup. about 108:1. just b/c my rover isn't finished, doesn't mean i don't wheel.

also, clutching and braking isn't really an option when 90% of the RRC's and Disco's here are automatics...

Retard....

I didn't say you didn't wheel, but your basing your information on webwheeling lore.

This guys truck is not an auto. 100:1 does not equal 200+:1.

Shoo.... go away, your input is not constructive or even bad in a witty sorta way, its just bad.

I disagree

I've got mog axles, the regular lt230 and an Ashcroft underdrive - and I really, really like the pinpoint control it affords you when your near vertical climbing something. You can always disengage the crawler if you want to spin them :)

It also allows you very nice slow control on drop offs without touching your brakes.

i have long loved your truck, but i have a few nagging questions...
1. as i am an inordinate tinkerer, i can't seem to leave well enough alone, so overall how do you like your mog axles?
2. is it "too tall"? i have heard that debate more than once and from previous portal owners as well, not just spouting parrot 4x4 bs. i could elaborate, but i am sure you know of the question i am referring.
3. do you run the stock 404 boxes? and how do they hold up?
4. if you had it to do all over again would you still run the 404's? and where can i find them? i have one tons under my buggy, but it would be a short swap to put in the mogs, comparatively.


btw, in a kind of spork defense, i recently swapped out my toy/toy dual case set up in my toy based buggy (22re) for a stock toy reduction box and dana 300 combo. i love it, but i will say that i miss having the 4/1 crawl gear in the rear case. it was perfect for a lot of stuff.

now i pretty much have to use dual low with both the toy and 300 in low range, 2.28/1 in the front case and 2.67/1 in the rear, so that is like almost 6/1. it is too low for a lot of wheel speed stuff i need, but i can usually compensate with using 2nd or 3rd gear in the tranny.

so i would have to say that out here in az, i feel that the ideal set up is,
1. light weight
2. at least 200hp from the engine
3. auto tranny (this one is sometimes debateable)
4. at least 3 speed tcase, (klune with reg tcase or whatever)
5. deep axle gears if you don't have the above. if you do 4.1 to 4.88/1 seems to get it done.

what i have is
1. 22re (low hp)
2. manual tranny
3. toy/dana 300 combo
4. 5.38 axle gears in a 60 and 14bolt.
5. nearly bald and shredded 42" iroks (which still get it amazingly)

i can make this stuff work, and i can "hold my own" with some of the best of them, but it sure isn't very pretty:flipoff2:

Retard....

I didn't say you didn't wheel, but your basing your information on webwheeling lore.

This guys truck is not an auto. 100:1 does not equal 200+:1.

Shoo.... go away, your input is not constructive or even bad in a witty sorta way, its just bad.

you called me a web wheeler...that's saying "you don't wheel in real life". i know this gentleman has a manual tranny as he is not in the US. i'm saying that your suggestion to "clutch it" isn't going to apply to 90% of the people in this forum. my point was that unless your tires are coated with glue and you are on rock with a ridiculous coefficient of friction, crawl ratio's beyond the 200:1 maybe 250:1 are pointless. your tires don't have enough friction with even dry rocks for that kind of crawl ratio to be useful. alright, my hijack is over. it's his truck and if he wants a crawl ratio of 1000:1 he is more than welcome.

as a side note, i was at the hammers a number of years ago for a tin-benders jambo and marlin was there with little red mini truck.

i believe he had like 3 tcases all with 4.7s in them and he was well over 1k/1.
he put the truck in gear and idled it and it was crazy to watch it "crawl"...the wheels didn't roll in a "smooth" motion, you could actually see them "tick" as each gear cog engaged and then let out the amplified drive train gear lash. it was more of a marketing gee-whiz demo, but it was crazy!

back on hijack topic,

i have seen the same water fall "finessed" with crawlin, and then nailed with an all out throttle flailing. sometimes you need both.

relavant to the thread: is a Klune shift on the fly? an all out throttle assault would be tough when at 5000 RPMs you're only going 2 MPH.

*edit, i know the atlas is shift on the fly, but under load isn't recommended is it?

relavant to the thread: is a Klune shift on the fly? an all out throttle assault would be tough when at 5000 RPMs you're only going 2 MPH.

*edit, i know the atlas is shift on the fly, but under load isn't recommended is it?
atlas can't be too much different than my dana 300 in that capacity, and it shifts like butter under load. in fact, i can barely even budge it when i am sitting still. i have to start moving.

arb's aren't recommended to be locked/unlocked under load either, but they are the only lockers that can do it reliably and repeatably.

i have long loved your truck, but i have a few nagging questions...
1. as i am an inordinate tinkerer, i can't seem to leave well enough alone, so overall how do you like your mog axles?
2. is it "too tall"? i have heard that debate more than once and from previous portal owners as well, not just spouting parrot 4x4 bs. i could elaborate, but i am sure you know of the question i am referring.
3. do you run the stock 404 boxes? and how do they hold up?
4. if you had it to do all over again would you still run the 404's? and where can i find them? i have one tons under my buggy, but it would be a short swap to put in the mogs, comparatively.


1. Love them - point and shoot with 42" tires
2. Its too tall currently, but I can come down a bit
3. Stock boxes (though the axle housings are narrowed and the diff is flipped in front) - broken one rear portal housing/gears - dunno which failed first - I was FULLY gettin it on Nemesis 3 on Pat's revenge and bouncing up and down like a fool.
4.Yes - very nice setup - if a bit hard on the fab/install - I don't think I would run heavy horsepower through them on 40" plus tires (but some do with success)
5. Since you didn't ask - the downsides - they leak at various places, the brakes are iffy imho (even with new components) - though that may be a function of me using a rover master cylinder

Best, most functional mod I've done to the truck.

i recall seeing that thread of you coming down on one corner...that was something.

i have my own lathe and access to other cnc machines so i can do my own pinion conversions and i could quite easily adapt to 8 lug chevy pattern.

i am more concerned with the portal box strength, finding parts, seals etc.
and ride height issues. cog and all of that.

also i don't know where to find them cheaply enough anymore. it seems that most of the used vendor spots have dried up?

I am running out of patience for your bullshit.

i really couldn't care less. you can ignore me, or continue crying about it.

when someone posts in a public forum, especially on pirate, people are going to give their opinions. if people don't want comments about what they post, this definitely isn't the place for you. i've never understood people who think pirate is for posting "hey, look at how great my build is...i don't want any opinions, just your praise..."

i really couldn't care less. you can ignore me, or continue crying about it.

when someone posts in a public forum, especially on pirate, people are going to give their opinions. if people don't want comments about what they post, this definitely isn't the place for you. i've never understood people who think pirate is for posting "hey, look at how great my build is...i don't want any opinions, just your praise..."



again, this is pirate...i'm not giving him my help. and he's free to build his rig anyway he wants. i really don't care. as for giving my opinion, that's the crux of pirate, i can give my opinion whether you want it or not. if people don't want other peoples opinions, they should keep their builds to themselves, and certainly don't post them here.

Your an idiot. Stop ruining this thread. Go away.

I am not going to respond to you again in this thread. I can tell you almost everybody here is getting tired of your worthless posts.

Your an idiot. Stop ruining this thread. Go away.

wow, and your posts have been very constructive...

stop stealing your retorts from elementary school children, and stop wasting your time crying.

Trying not to hijack the thread.Cool build lets see some pics of it in action.

i didn't tell the guy he had to rip it apart and do it my way, i just commented that the crawl ratio might be beyond the usefull range, and wondered why you'd spend the extra 2000.00 on a low range you won't use much. he obviously isn't going to rip the thing apart and do it how i would.

i simply posted my opinion which is what pirate is all about. if you, dave, and sterling delete your whiny ass douchebag posts which contribute even less than my opinion, and started the pissing match, i'll delete my replies, and this man can have his thread back.

Do the entire 4 wheeling community a favor and go away.

i didn't tell the guy he had to rip it apart and do it my way, i just commented that the crawl ratio might be beyond the usefull range, and wondered why you'd spend the extra 2000.00 on a low range you won't use much. he obviously isn't going to rip the thing apart and do it how i would.

i simply posted my opinion which is what pirate is all about. if you, dave, and sterling delete your whiny ass douchebag posts which contribute even less than my opinion, and started the pissing match, i'll delete my replies, and this man can have his thread back.Done how do you delete replys

Do the entire 4 wheeling community a favor and go away.

just as constructive as the other whiny assholes. at least sterling is willing to delete what he posted, and i agreed to do the same.

i hate to be the bearer of bad news, but just because 5 or 6 or 20 people for that matter, that i don't know, that don't know me, and live thousands of miles away don't like me i'm not going to stop posting or four wheeling. i've got about 1000 acres of private land opened near me for four wheeling. you and the other whiny douche bags in here are not the entire wheeling community, so you shouldn't presume to speak for others. and if you're just speaking for yourself, don't worry, i won't be wheeling in canada.

Done how do you delete replys

click the edit button under your post. then in the edit screen there is a delete option.

just as constructive as the other whiny assholes. at least sterling is willing to delete what he posted, and i agreed to do the same.

i hate to be the bearer of bad news, but just because 5 or 6 or 20 people for that matter, that i don't know, that don't know me, and live thousands of miles away don't like me i'm not going to stop posting or four wheeling. i've got about 1000 acres of private land opened near me for four wheeling. you and the other whiny douche bags in here are not the entire wheeling community, so you shouldn't presume to speak for others. and if you're just speaking for yourself, don't worry, i won't be wheeling in canada.



click the edit button under your post. then in the edit screen there is a delete option.

i am not a proponent of conventional wisdom in the least. but spork, you may have valid tech. and your points may be correct. but when you irritate someone the wise course of action may be "why are they irritated?". not just writing them off as whiney douche bags.

i will offer a little help as i actually find myself feeling sorry for you getting ganged up on here all of the time. tone it down. loose the attitude and embrace a modicum of humility. if you believe in yourself as much as you say you do, this should be an easy wellspring of personal strength you can draw from and say, "i am sorry guys".

but if you really don't care what they think then whatever.

that means to me one of two things.
1. you like to piss off the other members and get some entertainment out of it (this could be totally true, and funny at the same time in a tragic sort of way)...or...
2. you do have a desparate need to be thought of. bad or good. but you don't seem to be just a post whore throwing idiotic attitude laced comments, you seem to wish to provide tech.

however, it seems that often the manner in which you articulate that tech comes across as fairly abrasive. and if pendy and the like feel they are the captains of sarcasm here, so be it. they have been here longer and have that right. it was THEIR forum before a lot of us moved in. public or not. if you can't accept that, you may need to consider thickening your skin.

but hey, i like making friends. i don't like to piss off people i may have to wheel with someday. and believe me there are a couple of total shit heads here on pirate (not really in the lr forum) that i may have simply swallowed my indignation for just in order to maintain the peace. i am a bigger man than they are and i let them hang themselves.

i like this thread, and i hope disco two boy posts more pics because i want mogs. i don't know why, i just cannot resist the urge:flipoff2:

i am not a proponent of conventional wisdom in the least. but spork, you may have valid tech. and your points may be correct. but when you irritate someone the wise course of action may be "why are they irritated?". not just writing them off as whiney douche bags.

you give pretty good advice Aaron. i know i get riled up sometimes and need to tone it down. in the real world, i'm a likeable guy, i don't have any enemies. i'm more than willing to delete my riled up posts if others delete the worthless posts that inspired them. the argument was tech related and didn't turn into a pissing match until Dave posted this:

Seriously, STFU unless you can prove to us that you have any useful experience with anything that your talking about. I am running out of patience for your bullshit.

You don't even understand what your responding to.

then others felt the need to jump on the bandwagon. there was a discussion about crawl ratios directly related to the build that was posted. that's what i was responding to. if Dave would have read everything he would have seen that.

although FrankenRover and i didn't agree, the argument didn't really degrade until Dave's comment. when people make an effort to get someone riled up online, it usually works.

you give pretty good advice Aaron. i know i get riled up sometimes and need to tone it down. in the real world, i'm a likeable guy, i don't have any enemies. i'm more than willing to delete my riled up posts if others delete the worthless posts that inspired them. the argument was tech related and didn't turn into a pissing match until Dave posted this:



then others felt the need to jump on the bandwagon. there was a discussion about crawl ratios directly related to the build that was posted. that's what i was responding to. if Dave would have read everything he would have seen that.

although FrankenRover and i didn't agree, the argument didn't really degrade until Dave's comment. when people make an effort to get someone riled up online, it usually works.

yeah that happens...

i often find that i have to challenge myself to be my real world self on here and not my e-self. my e-self is a sarcastic a-hole...you get comfortable behind anonymity of the web. it is hard to follow the rules of civility that we normally engage in with other social arrangements.

i figured you must be a decent guy.

Alright spork your up. I deleted my reply`s.Let get the thread going in the right direction again so we have something interesting to look at instead of the normal droal there is on this board. The guy is building a cool truck I would like to see how it turns out.

i simply posted my opinion which is what pirate is all about. if you, dave, and sterling delete your whiny ass douchebag posts which contribute even less than my opinion, and started the pissing match, i'll delete my replies, and this man can have his thread back.

There..point taken.....deleted by "douchebag"

Sporky....I don't really disagree with your ideas and opinions,in fact I totally agree much of the time. However the way you come at people seems offensive and although it wasn't particularily on this thread (at least not to me) I was reacting to what in reality this has become AGAIN....some stupid ass e-dick swinging piss match be it your fault or not (although I find it odd that you seem to be in the middle of it AGAIN).

I'd just like to see the Big Discotowsky get his fair shake without all the shit flinging.

I like making freinds too. Anyone want to go camping? Spork it!


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I like making freinds too. Anyone want to go camping? Spork it!


<gay>htmlinept

so lets say you and i go camping...just us...










would you tell:mr-t:

have a little sing along......

1,2,3,and....big man in a little tent....da, da tah dah.....big man in a little tent.......:eek:

now this thread is truly bringing the gay...

back on topic however, are those u-1300s? is there anyone in this country that sells them? are they prohibitively expensive?

those would indeed be my dream axles.

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/1517/dscf0093im7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

On this picture how are you going to box in the upper mount? And when you do how are you going to service the diff?

Just a quick note from me on crawl ratio. I am over 200 to 1 and I use low low quite a bit on the trails out here. Like bill said if you are at near verticles either up or down a trail the control is very nice to have and wheel speed is just a gear shift away.

I can't tell you all how much better the rover board is when you put spork on ignore.

-ben

not going to the chili challenge ben?

nah going to africa in three weeks spending this year's vacation there. Maybe next year. Might even have a land rover built by then

-ben

What are you running for uppers in the front? I can't tell from the picture. I only see two lowers and a panhard. 3 link would be my guess.

it looks like the front has a big a arm upper? ala 3 link. single heim at the axle. no panhard.