Mc Kinstry Entrance

[MikeCAjeeper]

I noticed on June 29th going in for the worked day on Walker hill that the Mc Kinstry entrance to Ellis Creek is pretty over grown by bushes and trees. I think we should organize a little trimming party before the forest service decides the route is not used or needed and blocks it off. Any Comments?

[Rubicrawler]

It's been years since I used that trail and it was narrow back then. I think it's a good idea :idea:

It funny, when you start working on a trail you really notice just how much work is needed. It's an ongoing battle but I think we're up to the fight!

[Aggro]

I actually feel this is a bad idea. It is currently bad enough that "stockers" can use the illegal bypass trail to get past the "gatekeeper", let alone blaze a clear path for them to use. If stock-ish vehicles are given an easy way to get to ellis creek, I feel we will be dealing with more trail damage to the trail. Not to mention the backup that could result at the bottom of walker hill due to it being the first technical spot you would now run in to. In a nutshell: If you can't make it thru the "gatekeeper" or thru wentworth springs, and you aren't willing to get a few scratches on your rig (Mc Kinstry) then maybe you aren't ready for the rubicon. just my $.02

[MikeCAjeeper]

I would have to agree with keeping the stockers out. We used that route on the work day June 29th to avoid the congestion at the gate keeper of the work volunteers going in. We also picked the Mc Kinstry route due to the lack of difficulty towing a trailer full of wheel barrels in to Walker Hill.

Ok scratch the idea!

The less known or the less visible the Mc Kinstry route in is the better. Feel free to slap me if I come up with any other lame ideas.
:emb:

[85 rocrnr]

Originally posted by Aggro
I actually feel this is a bad idea. It is currently bad enough that "stockers" can use the illegal bypass trail to get past the "gatekeeper", let alone blaze a clear path for them to use. If stock-ish vehicles are given an easy way to get to ellis creek, I feel we will be dealing with more trail damage to the trail. Not to mention the backup that could result at the bottom of walker hill due to it being the first technical spot you would now run in to. In a nutshell: If you can't make it thru the "gatekeeper" or thru wentworth springs, and you aren't willing to get a few scratches on your rig (Mc Kinstry) then maybe you aren't ready for the rubicon. just my $.02 i couldn't agree more!

[Jeepndel]

I have a different view point as Trail Boss of the Friends of the Rubicon (that guy that has to muster us all together when we want to save our trail and do maintenance). My red TJ has been thru the Rubicon more than a few times WITHOUT a scratch. I'm very careful. Why? Because my TJ sits on the State Capitol steps once a year; rides in parades with stickers all over it; and is seen nationwide by other wheelers.

I also need to be able to get workers (you guys) into the trail without going thru a bunch of wasted time at Gatekeeper. McKinstry is a legal access.

I LIKE having an easy way in to Ellis -- and my jeep is not stock.
I NEED to be able to get work crews to work efficiently and quickly (in order to save our trail). So I'm with Mike. If some folks wanted to do a little (not a lot) pruning, it would be nice.

But we also have some big by passes to still work on this summer.
so there'll be good work for all. More to come.
Del

[ROCKLIMO]

By keeping McKinstry open and clear of debris we provide much needed access for fire crews and law enforcement. This access, in time of fire or other emergency could cut response time by hours that can mean the difference between triumph or tragedy.