: Thoughts on Fuel Cell for 110 Diesel


FrankenRover
07-05-2002, 07:28 PM
Any ideas on a fuel cell for the 110 pickup Diesel. I measured the area normally occupied by the tank on the 110 frame, and it looks like I can fit a 22x22x10" fuel cell in the opening and have room for a flush skid plate to protect it. This would yield almost 20 gallons (which is plenty considering I got by with 15 gal. at 10mpg in the 90).

Any recommendations for custom made tanks (would like a baffle at the pickup to prevent fuel starvation when off camber, etc). How about builders? I know several have tanks already. How about off the shelf stuff - websites?

If mounted in the stock location, how about filling options? Or should I just stick with stock 110 tank (or will it drag like a big dog)?

Thanks for the input,

Blister

western110
07-05-2002, 10:00 PM
I've never had any problems with my stock 110 tank hanging up on anything, though I don't have the rocks that you do down south. The stock tank is very near to being flush and it would be super easy to skid plate it. The stock tank is 80L and I think that works out to about 20gal.

Serious One
07-05-2002, 11:13 PM
Hey,

IMO you should use the stock tank.

reasons:

1. You know it will work.

2. Easy to purchase skid plate off the shelf

3. Relatively inexpensive

4. Time is of the essense (right!)

5. You know it will work.

The reason I went with a custom tank in the rear of the crewcab is two fold. I had 36 gallons already in the central tank, and I definitely wanted something with a bit lower profile than the stock tank.

I seriously considered a stock tank, but got a custom one anyway.

BTW, I don't have any baffles on any of the tanks I have had made (3 now).

Use VDO senders and guages if you can. They are deathly accurate.

Use of the stock filler would be nice too. Again, easy to get and install.

If you can't tell I'm getting tired of all the 'custom' stuff. :smokin:

Tell us more about your fuel cell options. Maybe there's something really appealing about them I don't know about.

RockRover
07-08-2002, 08:35 AM
Hey Mikie, If you used a cell on the SO then did you use a in-tank pump? I'm just about ready to start investigating pumps and all that...I'm thinking I'm just going to use an external 65psi (continuous) pump and hope my regulator holds up...I've heard that all the 3.9 needs is a solid 35psi...Then I hear 65psi...I dunno'. I think I'll just jump in (like everything else) and slap the 65 on there and carry an extra regulator.

--D

Serious One
07-08-2002, 09:06 AM
Hey D,

The tank on the SO is just a square metal tank, not really a true fuel cell.

On that 283 Chev. V8 I'm running the Holley Pro-jection system. In that kit came an external electric fuel pump. The kit did *not* come with a pressure regulator or guage. Kind of causes problems later because the pump is spitting out something like 60psi and the projection on my particular application needs something between 12-19. I am ordering a regulator this week and hope to get it on soon.

I didn't get much luck in Portland trying to find someone who knew the system, but here in SLC have found 2 shops that know the system well. They both said that my whining fuel pump is caused by the pump running too much fuel (running at the upper end of it's capacity), and not being able to put it somewhere.

It's also the reason why I have never been able to get the damn thing to really REALLY run properly, as it was always running rich.

New software and a tweaked ECU in conjunction with a fuel regulator will hopefully solve my problems.

In the future, if I were to do another electric fuel pump, I would definitely do one that is inside the tank. Internal tanks run cooler, run quieter, and run longer. Hindsight is definitely 20/20.

Holley makes several in-tank versions, but I'm sure others do too. I'm just not familiar with many other manufacturers.

Diesel Jim
07-09-2002, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by RockRover
Hey Mikie, If you used a cell on the SO then did you use a in-tank pump? I'm just about ready to start investigating pumps and all that...I'm thinking I'm just going to use an external 65psi (continuous) pump and hope my regulator holds up...I've heard that all the 3.9 needs is a solid 35psi...Then I hear 65psi...I dunno'. I think I'll just jump in (like everything else) and slap the 65 on there and carry an extra regulator.

--D

wheni fitted the 3.9 efi into my 90, i needed a pump, and just used one off of a 2.0 litre injection car. it was an in line pump (looks just like the 3,9 fuel filter), and when i put a pressure gauge onto the fuel line, it was showing about 34psi. worked a treat!
according to my rangie manual, it says that the injections system needs 35psi

check out : http://www.rangie.com/rrkb/articles/212.htm for the full diagnostic EFI paperwork.

Jamie