: LT230 vs LT95


JSBriggs
07-05-2002, 11:49 PM
I recently bought an older RR that had an LT 95 in it which was removed before I got the truck. I eventually plan on using a domestic engine and transmission (yet to be determined) but the question is which tcase. If I get a 95, I can get the truck moving and usuable right away, and do the engine swap later. Or now that I live in a much drier climate (Nor Cal vs PDX) I can let it sit until next spring, when I'll have more time (I hope). I know the 230 fairly well, but have only limited exposer/knowledge of the 95. I also know of a reasonably inexpensive source for 230's, but don't have any idea what a 95 would go for.

-Jeff

Serious One
07-06-2002, 03:04 PM
Hey,

Personally I would go with the LT-230. The LT-95 is good, but parts are going to be impossible to find, not to mention a wee bit spendy. Besides that you will be forced into using the 4-speed gear ratios that already exist in it, as I believe changing the basic gearsets is impossible (I could be wrong).

But, an american tranny offers infinite choices in infinite diversity (credit to Spock, or something like that), plus is cheap and easy to source.

The adapter is of course the trick, but you know who to call for that.

max200tdi
07-07-2002, 05:09 PM
From memory the LT 95 had an integral transfer case. So you'll need the LT230 if you're going to run another transmission.

Regards
Max P

evilfij
07-07-2002, 06:32 PM
LT95s seem to be somewhat available in the US. A few grey market RRs with them have been parted out in the last year. The LT95 is probably the strongest Land Rover tranny ever made (not saying much though :))

No overdrive 5th and the integral T-case has a couple issues. First the diff lock is vacuum actuated (aka intermittently inop) and second the ratio changes are not east to come by.

It is a popular swap in series rovers to use the LT95 out of a 101 FC with its short bellhouing for V8 conversions.

Upside is that it is strong and parts are readily available from ashcroft or LEGS. Downside is there is very limited support on this side of the atlantic and it shifts like a truck.

Ron

fugly 2
07-07-2002, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by evilfij


Upside is that it is strong and parts are readily available from ashcroft or LEGS. Downside is there is very limited support on this side of the atlantic and it shifts like a truck.

Ron


From what I've read the lt95 was a compromise as L/R needed a gear box for the at the time new Range Rover [1970] .While at the same time needing a gearbox for the FC101 .As money was short they decided to build a box that could be used in either .LandRover knew that when money became available to them that they would have to address this issue for the RangeRover .History has shown that the only division at rover to make a profit was LandRover .Car division always ran at a loss .Proof of the pudding ? Ford payed BMW big dollars for LandRover but BMW sold the car division for a reputed 25 pounds while at the same time keeping the name rights to Mini .

All this is from memory and as I suffer from C.R.A.F.T. I could be wrong .


Luke .

Diesel Jim
07-08-2002, 01:58 PM
The LT95 was used in the first rangerovers and the 101" V8 forward control. also it was used in the first of the 'new' V8 110's and the 109" stage 1 V8. so there are quite a lot of different t/case ratios available. the 101" had the lowest gearing, and the rangerover had the highest (up about the 1:1 somewhere).

the gears are interchangable,)depending on suffix number) and i'm purdy sure they can be changed without a major stripdown. (give Chris velardi a shout off of the d90 list, as he changed he gears in his 101)

the difflock is a vacuum operated thing off of the inlet manifold (beware if you fit one to a diesel then! unless you;ve got a vacuum pump) but there was a company here in the UK that did a conversion to make it mechanical, although it only needs a bit of linkage knocking up so can't be that difficult.

there were 2 lengths of bellhousing available too, the 101" had a shorter housing as space was a bit cramped, so if you're installing one into a SWB motor, then the 101 housing is what you need.
the box is pretty aricultural in use, but plenty strong, 'speedy' gearchanges arn't really it's forte. overdrives are available for it too, but they're pretty rare over here nowadays.
Also the australian perentie military rovers used this box too, with strengthened gears in them.

Jamie

JSBriggs
07-08-2002, 04:47 PM
I get the feeling that while the 95 isn't bad, a 230 with a domestic transmission would be stronger and possibly cheaper. Thanks for the imput, now if I could just find someone to make an adapter....:D

-Jeff

200 Tdi
07-08-2002, 09:32 PM
Lt95 is the strongest box land rover have made yet.

Mark's 4wd adaptors already make just about any bellhousing adaptor plate you want to suit most engines.

They are worth almost nothing here is Oz . I can get a second hand one that ok for less than $500 AUS (but I already have 3 lying on the floor in the shed) so parts are cheap and easy to get.

To make it bullet proof, change the needle roller bearings in the Transfer case to taper roller.

Another plus is first gear low-low is 47:1 with 3.54 diffs

Sam hasn't broken his yet so they must be ok.

The cheapest solution is to just stick it in.

John D

Diesel Jim
07-09-2002, 01:20 AM
Originally posted by 200 Tdi
Lt95 is the strongest box land rover have made yet.

Mark's 4wd adaptors already make just about any bellhousing adaptor plate you want to suit most engines.

They are worth almost nothing here is Oz . I can get a second hand one that ok for less than $500 AUS (but I already have 3 lying on the floor in the shed) so parts are cheap and easy to get.

To make it bullet proof, change the needle roller bearings in the Transfer case to taper roller.

Another plus is first gear low-low is 47:1 with 3.54 diffs

Sam hasn't broken his yet so they must be ok.

The cheapest solution is to just stick it in.

John D

i agree! cheap over here too.

Jamie