shoot me nagg, gripe whatever, but why is there not a forum for nissans, dont deny it everyone has tried to wheel one , if there isnt a big demand i might be wrong, but i have seen and purchased a ton of aftermarket parts for my Pathfinder, and well i wonder if anyone else has wondered or asked this same thing:question:

A better question would be why would you want a nissan board? Those things wheel horrible! Just kidding, I know ORC has one, but no one is hardly on it.:flipoff2:

:laughing: :laughing: I'm guessing you missed the xterra thread?:laughing: :laughing:

no offence eh.

So, we should have a new forum created for all 4 of you?:confused:

5!!!

there already is, its perfect for you guys!

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&forumid=24&x=21&y=10


ask the moderator over there she is good with Nissan Guys!!


:eek:


actually I wonder why there are so many tech sections on this board, its not like any vehicle is stock so General tech is more sutable if ya ask me....and Mercedes??

yeah I need to know how fast my CLK will go:flipoff2:

Because Nissans suck, would my feeling. But hey everyone has there own opinions. Mine is just mine. Yours could be totaly different. :flipoff2:

I thought it was funny when they came out with that hard body design. The fawkin sheet metal was so thin you could fart next to it and dent it!

:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :D

Show Lance a group of hard core Nissian owners and I am sure he would start a section for them. Right now there are no hard core Nissans on the trail, just a bunch posers.

I just just got the latest FOUR WHEELER and read the article about the Nissans at Moab. They were talking them up saying they took all the hard stuff. I was there with that group and saw this sorry bunch on the trail. They pussy footed their way around ever obistical, taking the easiest possable way. There rigs could not even consider doing the stuff that most on this bbs do with their rigs. Hell even DRM coudl out wheel these little SUV's

I say let the Nissans play on the other poser BBS's and keep this site for the hard trails.

hey ive seen a couple of sas pathfinders do some crazy runs, and well hell nissans might be as gutless as a 4 cyle scout or internat for that matter but little did most people know who ever had one they have a posi locking system front and rear, learned the fun way while it was stock, and in 4 high, mine was about 2 weeks away from becoming sas w d44's but i found my sas runner and well the work was done. so now im broke own 3 capable 4x's and well my nissan is gonna stay a mall mobber (gutless lil bastard w/ the a/c on ) :flipoff2: and as for the sheet metal comment i beg to differ you should have seen the buick skylark i t boned, i got a broken headlight hehe :flipoff2:

Nissan = :rainbow: :barf: I see those hard body trucks looking like wanna be show trucks :rainbow:

Originally posted by Chris Geiger
Hell even DRM coudl out wheel these little SUV's

:p:p:p

How 'bout a KIA sportage forum, those things are way hardcore and I see hundreds on the trail every time i'm up there:rolleyes:

Why no nissan forum? probably beacuse nissan stopped exporting the patrol to the states back in the 70's or something.......Wonder why, they still sell big numbers in europe & australia. So you are left with pathfinders & xterras? Not too many people wheeling them hard, I would think?

Here ya go some wheeling nissans for ya thread :D

By the way we have these things wheeling everywhere over here they are prob more popular than Toyota's over here :flipoff2:

:p

double cab TuRD. nice.
I got the X-cab TuRD.
I think Nissan has the one-up with the double cab longbed.
If Toyota had a long bed and/or offered the 5spd in the double cab, I'd trade in mine. else, I'll be keeing my Toy forever.

Ruff,

your Nissans don't suck... just ours.

Aw hell, I'll chime in.

I am a devoted Nissan owner, but..... I will agree with most of the previous posts...there aren't enough hardcore Nissan owners out there. And if a forum was started here, the general alumni of PBB would most likely spend their time rippng us new asses, instead of killing kittens in chit chat.

There are a few hardcore nissan's out ther in North America. But at some point most of them have become less Nissan and more Frankenstein.

Until I see quite a few more built and trail capable Nissans, I wouldn't support a forum here. Goto Automotive Customizers BBS, or the ORC one, and we can answer ANY Nissan question you want (even "how big a tire can I fit w/o a lift?)

Good GAWD what's next an Isuzu forum. :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Belly Dragger
Good GAWD what's next an Isuzu forum. :flipoff2: WORD.

hey a buddy of mine just bought one of these.....wow those press pics are HARDCORE..... notice the nice smooth surface in front of the fun lines on that mountain....
http://www.suv.com/saturn/saturnsuvhead.jpg


I call out for a saturn SUV FORUM!!!:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by unissamog

Until I see quite a few more built and trail capable Nissans, I wouldn't support a forum here. Goto Automotive Customizers BBS, or the ORC one, and we can answer ANY Nissan question you want (even "how big a tire can I fit w/o a lift?)

Wait two more weeks and I'll give you a hardcore Nissan. As of right now it's about 12" over stock. 9" suspension lift (SOA) and 3" body. It'll be slightly modified with a D44, 5.13s, ARB... and a little bit more flex than IFS :D

:rolleyes:
Yeah? What, you want a cookie or something?

Originally posted by Pathmaker


Wait two more weeks and I'll give you a hardcore Nissan. As of right now it's about 12" over stock. 9" suspension lift (SOA) and 3" body. It'll be slightly modified with a D44, 5.13s, ARB... and a little bit more flex than IFS :D


A tall rig is a show truck not an extreme rock crawler. There is a difference. Enter the rig in a Rock Crawl and let us know how it does.

This thread is the Nissan forum there are you happy?:laughing:

Originally posted by Mo
Ruff,

your Nissans don't suck... just ours.


Trust me ours suck also, im sick of seeing the things they all run the same suspension setups,same bars same just about everything you see one you've seen em all :zzz: :zzz:

Originally posted by Chris Geiger



A tall rig is a show truck not an extreme rock crawler. There is a difference. Enter the rig in a Rock Crawl and let us know how it does.

Come awn.....

Sign up here: www.calrocs.com

let's see how hardcore that nissan is..........:D

Rich

Originally posted by Pathmaker


Wait two more weeks and I'll give you a hardcore Nissan. As of right now it's about 12" over stock. 9" suspension lift (SOA) and 3" body. It'll be slightly modified with a D44, 5.13s, ARB... and a little bit more flex than IFS :D

i thought you had said you could only afford the actual sas, no gears lockers etc for a while? :flipoff2: i think i remember telling you, and whoever read a certain post on the nissan board, that you should fit the biggest tires without insane amounts of lift, just pull out the sawzall, but it's all about fitting tires no matter the lift size
i'd have to say that the only person who will have the start on "extreme" nissan anytime soon will be mcsoo from what i've heard he has planned.

Originally posted by Daniel
this is my opinion aren't nissans kinda toyota wannabee's wasn't toyota the first and best in the offroad field and sustained that for like 20 years now? Yeah nissan has the cooler addons and plastic bodypanels now but I still bought the Toy. Beefier parts and a rep for being tougher as an import. BTW I own 2!

Daniel,

You're too YOUNG! :D

Nissan was into Rally events (flat out racing, dirt roads) long before Toyota got involved.

Things in the USA were a little strange, as both Nissan Patrol & Toyota Land Cruiser's were sold at the same time (1960's). MITI (Japan's Minister of Trade) got involved and told the two companies NOT to compete against each other in the USA market. Nissan dropped the Patrol from the USA imports, Toyota dropped the Sports Car!!! The Land Cruiser become much better known than a Patrol.... as did the 240Z! Think of The FEDS telling Chevy to stick with LARGE Trucks, and Ford to stick with smaller trucks so they would have less competition between each other!!! Things like that happened back then!

Any way, I ran a 510 in Pro Rally events in the 1970's... had dirt CHEAP FACTORY parts to buy from Nissan (proven on the East African Safari events.... ) and loved the old Datsun's!

Classic Photo of the East African Safari w/ Datsun 240Z, circa 1971. The AVERAGE speed was 60 mph... mud, water crossings, lots of dirt, and a five day endurance event.

Tom :usa:

Before Toyota trucks were available as 4x4's, the sas Datsuns were hot! I had two freinds that had them, one had a Buick v6 conversion, and both were nice and tall. The solid axle swap was a kit that was only offered for the Datsuns, because at that time Toyota trucks were considered :rainbow: and nobody bought them.:p

Next time you are on the Con and need a part for your NISSAN------------ lots a luck !!!!!
Parts exchanges that I saw on the 5th, spring locater pin, short side axle, front hub outer(installed wrong), rear drive shaft and yoke, tie rod end, and who knows what all------- BUT NO parts for Nissan ( and don't tell me they never break !!)
Off-roaded with a Pathfinder, he high centered where I had just driven with a long wheel base toy xtra cab, strapped him off---- 50' further , high centered again and a stock toy standard cab straped him that time. Came to a hill climb- extra cab, stock toy-open/open drove up, the stock toy std cab, open/open drove up- the Pathfinder with V6 couldn't make it !!! we straped him up.
(he never went out again --- his wife was 'washing her hair'- 'gotta take the dog to the vet', 'my dead cousin came in from out of town' )--------:rainbow:

Originally posted by zeeto


i thought you had said you could only afford the actual sas, no gears lockers etc for a while? :flipoff2: i think i remember telling you, and whoever read a certain post on the nissan board, that you should fit the biggest tires without insane amounts of lift, just pull out the sawzall, but it's all about fitting tires no matter the lift size
i'd have to say that the only person who will have the start on "extreme" nissan anytime soon will be mcsoo from what i've heard he has planned.

Actually, I think Marine51 over on the AC board will have the most extreme nissan. He's got a dual t-case setup going and his SAS is done. He can fit 38"+ tires from the looks of it with the trimming. McSoo has a nice truck, but he hasn't started anything yet. I'm sure if you donated him some money (me too while you're at it), he'd build up a pretty crazy whatever-it-would-turn into.
I couldn't agree more about the less lift with the bigger tires the better. I wanted to keep the SAS as low as possible and fit 35's with as less lift as possible, but to do the SOA, it couldn't be done any lower. Even with that, 35's will barely fit, and that's what I wanted. And I hate tall show trucks, nothing pissed me off more than that Red Nissan Hardbody on the cover of Off-Road back a while ago. Thing had 44's or something on it with like 24" of lift with stock gearing and a toy axle: breakage??? and no rear driveshaft (some 4 wheeler).
And Zeeto-since you're so hardcore now- weren't you the one asking me all the "what size tire will fit?" and "where can I find info on gears?" and "will you tell me all about your SAS for my computer program" questions? Anyhow, you still want those IFS lift parts you were asking about? all in good fun
I'm not saying my nissan is tough shit, I'm just excited for it to be done.

I think these Toyota guys are affraid of some competition. Chris you talk alot of smack, the only pics that they have in magazines of your truck are poses on some rocks.:D There should be a Nissan forum since real trucks are BUILT not bought, it shouldn't matter what brand of truck you have but more of what you have done to it. I have alot of friends with Toys and the majority of them bought a Toyota because it came with a solid front axle. There needs to be a forum for Nissans so the more "hardcore" owners have a place to talk about their trucks, and if the Jeep or Toyota guys don't like it then don't read it!

Lone Wolf, can you show us some sas Nissans please? I thought you or someone you know has a few of them.

ahh, how could I forget Lon Wolf's beautiful Nissan Hardbody. Word up on what he said. There really are a lot more built up (SAS) Nissans out there than you think. Lon Wolf owning 3 of them! I'll put together some pictures.

And while I appreciate custom work of any kind, I just think that owning a capable Nissan says more than owning a toyota or Jeep. Much more creativity and time has to be put into Nissans. They're not just another run of the mill American truck, and that's what I like about mine (I'll never see one like it).

There are some pictures on the 4x4 parts .com bbs of my 93 hardbody in the NW section under Browns Camp pics. I tried to put one on here but not sure what I am doing wrong. My truck has A.O.R springs f/r a high-pinion 44 front, 5.13's, lockers f/r, high- steering, orbit eye's in the front of the rear springs, 35" tires. In the browns camp pics I had a set of 37x13 boggers on. Mc Soo if you know how to move pictures put one over here, or click on the link at the bottom. I also have a 78 Datsun with a 327, dana 44's ,5.38's, lockers, 35" boggers and a flatbed that is almost finished. These guys say theres no hardcore Nissans out there, they just haven't looked around.

Originally posted by Lon wlf
. I also have a 78 Datsun with a 327, dana 44's ,5.38's, lockers, 35" boggers and a flatbed that is almost finished. These guys say theres no hardcore Nissans out there, they just haven't looked around.

A datsun with a 327 and dana 44's. Hardcore Nissan? Sorry, buth that drivetrain is American. Nothing Nissan about that. Sounds cool though.

Originally posted by Lon wlf
I think these Toyota guys are affraid of some competition. Chris you talk alot of smack, the only pics that they have in magazines of your truck are poses on some rocks.:D There should be a Nissan forum since real trucks are BUILT not bought, it shouldn't matter what brand of truck you have but more of what you have done to it. I have alot of friends with Toys and the majority of them bought a Toyota because it came with a solid front axle. There needs to be a forum for Nissans so the more "hardcore" owners have a place to talk about their trucks, and if the Jeep or Toyota guys don't like it then don't read it!

Funny the mags were only intrested in my rig when it had a bright new paint job. After a few trail marks they show no intrest at all.

The problem I see is such a section would most likley get filled up with talk of stereos, floor mats, and fender flairs, just like every other Nissian chat board. I have no doubt there must be a few rigs out there but I don't think there are enough of them to have a conversation and any real tech would get burried in the chatter. Also as you pointed out true trail rigs are built, from other parts. Other than the engine and tranny the nissian makes a poor starting point for a project. If someone is building a nissian I bet it's because they just happened to have one sitting in the driveway to start with.

I don't really seeing someone saying ... I want to build a kick ass Rock Crawler, I think I will buy a Nissian, that's the best starting point.

Originally posted by Daniel
this is my opinion aren't nissans kinda toyota wannabee's wasn't toyota the first and best in the offroad field and sustained that for like 20 years now? Yeah nissan has the cooler addons and plastic bodypanels now but I still bought the Toy. Beefier parts and a rep for being tougher as an import. BTW I own 2!

CRAP i cant make fun of toy's...you gave me a ride across the water at pro rock.......bastid!

Chris G.

Originally posted by taloolarunner90


A datsun with a 327 and dana 44's. Hardcore Nissan? Sorry, buth that drivetrain is American. Nothing Nissan about that. Sounds cool though.


yeah kind of hard to call my zuk a zuk anymore because it has cherokee 44's aerostar coils .....the list goes on and on but at least it still has zuk motor tranny and t-case...and whats left of the body.......



i say stop whining about needing a forum because this is the nissan forum. organize and show people that there are more than ........one.......two.........three.......yeah about three of you out there and i bet they will set one up!!

and you have a Toyota nothing american about that. God forbid you should thow on an Austrlian ARB or American Atlas Do us all a favor and shut da fawk up :flipoff2: :flipoff2: The same can be said about almost all highly modified 4x4s and I 'know' that what the issue is.

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0MwAAALQPzHHUoK3Py7xQMZgs87jmpdJyktPxwWHFA2HkO4i2G oVqgncklpEEiWQM0BSwzhXq3qeim64hPd8ySg/DSC00090.JPG

Get a few threads going in the general section and if it's the hard core stuff this site is all about, Lance will create a section for it. If it's just poser wanta be stuff, it's gona get laughed at. It’s Just the nature of the site. Don't post unless you have a thick skin and a good sense of humor.

http://www.msnusers.com/_Secure/0OwD7d6kVn4CjQMyjY4N9aqKGW60u2TXFyaqMA4JGu78*jzlRY T3pF40ZOkziS9!G*!QbEEqmJ4KIcU0yvxdswOoPIWaT!mho/Solid.jpg

well i started this question and as of now it has had 800 views and well only 45 posts, i asked for the line up and the abuse, hell i even have a pic of my pathfinder posted on 4x4parts. the pic got screwed up but hey it still got there, downfall there is no tech advisory there, i also own two toyotas and i have to say so far every question or problem i experienced has been delt with by others and i have gotten great information from them. whats not to say neither of my toys are stock except for the bodys and well the drivetrain but thats about where it stands as for anyone else in any forum it wouldnt be hardcore if it onlyconsisted of the manufacturers parts now would. ive seen both sides of the issue and hey i am impressed this many people took the time to look and what few could speak their minds keep it going after all this is only page two of the pros and cons:beer:

Alright! Our Nissan Forum is up to 2 pages now!

http://www.bm4w.com/scrapbook/ejs2001/goldenspike/007.jpg

http://images.cardomain.com/installs/215000-215999/215276_3_full.jpg

http://explorerboy.freeservers.com/images/greg.jpg

http://www.bc4x4.com/album/bradyrmp.jpg

http://www.bc4x4.com/album/cjames.jpg

http://www.pathfinderoffroad.com/tech/kodiak03.jpg

http://mutttrk.homestead.com/files/after2.jpg

there are tons more, just can't find them and if the pics don't work, just cut and past the URL.

Originally posted by Pathmaker

And Zeeto-since you're so hardcore now- weren't you the one asking me all the "what size tire will fit?" and "where can I find info on gears?" and "will you tell me all about your SAS for my computer program" questions?

first off never said i was hardcore, and far from it comared to some on thsi board, but i did realize that nissan is a bad starting point unless i want to swap a lot of it because of lack of parts and cost ($450 for one r&p set for example), so i got a toy. if i had been into wheeling 4-5 years ago when i bought the path i wouldn't have bought it because of this...plus with my tranny blowing up i think nissans are sh!t anyways
lets see...i never said anything about tire size and if i did it was a while ago and i was nieve. if i had come to this board from the start and not ac's i would've realized that quick...i asked you about where you found info on doing the gear swap myself, so whats your point :flipoff2: ...and i wanted to do the program to get basically a database for the people who want to do sas's for nissan. give them a fawkin' idea of where to start and what parts will work. :flipoff2: all the nissan guys talk about getting a sas kit together, well if anyone let me know what specifically they used then maybe you could take all the info compiled in it and give it to a company like ac and give them a better understanding of the cost incurred to do a kit, you know that whole "the company wants to make a profit off it" thing has something to do with it

Originally posted by Chris Geiger
The problem I see is such a section would most likley get filled up with talk of stereos, floor mats, and fender flairs, just like every other Nissian chat board. I have no doubt there must be a few rigs out there but I don't think there are enough of them to have a conversation and any real tech would get burried in the chatter. Also as you pointed out true trail rigs are built, from other parts.Yep. I moderate over at 4x4wire in the Isuzu section. I spend more time over here as I've progressed beyond the fender flares and floor mat issues. I know of several moderately to highly modified Isuzu's. Still I don't see the need for an Isuzu section on the Pirate4x4 BBS as I get all my "hardcore" and generic tech questions answered right here. And if I need to find out which floor mat goes best with my interior or which fuse to pull to disengage the ABS then there is the Isuzu forums at 4x4wire.

I don't go to the Chevy board to ask about my front axle. Or the Dodge forum to ask about my rear axle. Or the Toyota forum to ask about my speedbox. Or the Jeep forum to ask about my TJ pump. You get the picture.

So NO, I don't see a need for an Isuzu or Nissan forum here. If you do want some Nissan tech that isn't going to be covered here I'd highly recommend you visit 4x4wire. http://www.4x4wire.com They are looking for people to complete the Nissan forum which includes moderators and peoepl to read and use it. It's a golden opportunity. ;)

Originally posted by Belly Dragger
Yep. I moderate over at 4x4wire in the Isuzu section. I spend more time over here as I've progressed beyond the fender flares and floor mat issues. I know of several moderately to highly modified Isuzu's. Still I don't see the need for an Isuzu section on the Pirate4x4 BBS as I get all my "hardcore" and generic tech questions answered right here. And if I need to find out which floor mat goes best with my interior or which fuse to pull to disengage the ABS then there is the Isuzu forums at 4x4wire.

I don't go to the Chevy board to ask about my front axle. Or the Dodge forum to ask about my rear axle. Or the Toyota forum to ask about my speedbox. Or the Jeep forum to ask about my TJ pump. You get the picture.

So NO, I don't see a need for an Isuzu or Nissan forum here. If you do want some Nissan tech that isn't going to be covered here I'd highly recommend you visit 4x4wire. http://www.4x4wire.com They are looking for people to complete the Nissan forum which includes moderators and peoepl to read and use it. It's a golden opportunity. ;)


belly drager knows what is up!! see the main problem that i can see is that there is so much swapping involved in a lot of brands to make them "HARDCORE". dragger has swapped in a lot of stuff and i dont think anyone can say his vehicle is not "HARDCORE". it is a mean trailrig that looks to be almost finished. The next example is all those pics above.....most are SAS or just a body with different parts in it. If it were a matter of keeping it in the family and using all isuzu or nissan parts on a rig...it would need a forum for sure. that is the main reason rovers and zuks have their own forum. most zuk owners get away with stock motor and axles because you can GET IT! with that stuff. not to say that i am not swapping some D44s under a zuk right now but that is logical progression. that is also why I am talking about this stuff in general 4x4. you need a following in order to get recognition. but on the other hand it would be nice for people to have a place to talk in order to gather them. if the door needs to be opened by force......most people arent interested in the fight. if it is already opened somewhere else....that is where they will go.


in conclusion...

i like those rigs i see up there.....original and daring since they are wheeling something with not a lot of aftermarket. as this sport grows(for better or worse) more and more people are going to modify their vehicles. and right now there are only a couple of SUV makers that make a nice looking smaller vehicle that i would like to see on the trail (no i am not talking about full size suvs i am talking smaller utes).....jeep and nissan. i am sorry but suzukis look like crap. toyota suvs are :rainbow: as :rainbow: can get!! ford and chevy....please......dodge doesnt even have a smaller SUV. Saturn is laughable and all those german rides are too much money. land rover is gettin real gay real fast mazda is the hermaphrodite of the auto world. nissan and jeep make the only mean lookin rigs. (but dont get me started on the liberty!!)

:nuke:

i agree with michael, we dont need more brand specific forums. When i started building my amigo I got all my questions answered here, and still do. All i really do at 4x4wire is post pics of events and read about trail runs. all the other guys i know with built isuzus (randii, robg, CurtisJ, matt@indy4x) all post here, and tend to get answers to all their questions. BTW anyone know where i can get some mud flaps that fit an 89 amigo :flipoff2:

Dallas

If the problem is that Nissans aren't using Nissan parts to do an SAS you aren't making much sense because if you have read the Jeep and Toy forums the majority of them are using differt brand parts to put together a good rig. There is no perfect vehicle that you are going to use brand specific parts though the new Jeep Rubicon is close. Take Chris's Toy for example the springs aren't bolt on Toyota parts they require custom hangers, and the front axle is hardly Toyota anymore. The drivelines, shock mounts and bed are all custom American made to, so it has nothing to do with a Nissan having the drivetrain changed that makes it not good enough to have a forum. They even have an International forum and they haven't made one for 21 years.

hey isnt nissan the same company that makes those noodles? ya know nissan oodles of noodles..... :D :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Lon wlf
I think these Toyota guys are affraid of some competition. Chris you talk alot of smack, the only pics that they have in magazines of your truck are poses on some rocks. There should be a Nissan forum since real trucks are BUILT not bought, it shouldn't matter what brand of truck you have but more of what you have done to it. I have alot of friends with Toys and the majority of them bought a Toyota because it came with a solid front axle. There needs to be a forum for Nissans so the more "hardcore" owners have a place to talk about their trucks, and if the Jeep or Toyota guys don't like it then don't read it!

Rock crawling comps are open to all rigs. Like they say " Bring it..Don't sing it".


Pathmaker,
Those are some good pics. You need to get the owners of those rigs on here and posting then maybe Lance will make a forum.

show me some old patrols

well you know i honestly cant say that i understand that Heep thing, tell me bad ass how many dana 35's have you ever gone hard core with? or are you a 4cyl heep owner? :flipoff2: as for the noodles, well its nissin not nissan the noodle factory is next door, they have to eat somewhere:D

Originally posted by Lon wlf
I think these Toyota guys are affraid of some competition. Chris you talk alot of smack, the only pics that they have in magazines of your truck are poses on some rocks.:D There should be a Nissan forum since real trucks are BUILT not bought, it shouldn't matter what brand of truck you have but more of what you have done to it. I have alot of friends with Toys and the majority of them bought a Toyota because it came with a solid front axle. There needs to be a forum for Nissans so the more "hardcore" owners have a place to talk about their trucks, and if the Jeep or Toyota guys don't like it then don't read it!

Here are some pics you won't see in the mags. This is the last CRCA event where I took first place...

http://www.allprooffroad.com/xtoys/CRCA2002/8445.jpg

http://www.allprooffroad.com/xtoys/CRCA2002/8446.jpg

Were any of the Pathfinder owners here on Hole in the Rock in Moab over Labor Day a couple years ago? Was the Labor Day Campout w/Red Rock 4Wheelers.

Just curious, if so pm me.

Chris those are some good pictures you got there, it looks like you are running bias ply tires now. The link at the bottom of my post will take you to a picture of my Nissan in the wet rocks at Browns Camp here in Oregon the picture doesn't do justice on how steep the hill was or how big the rocks were.

Originally posted by obex26
well you know i honestly cant say that i understand that Heep thing, are you a 4cyl heep owner? :flipoff2:

Yes I am, why?

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/p51b7a1c8038092fb9d9c048e8582c39a/fd8e6725.jpg

Shit in Australia we have heaps of hardcore Nissan Patrols, I work as a service adviser for a Toyota dealership and drive a Toyota 75 series but I would still say there is no ex factory vehicle in the world as tough as a GU Coil Cab Chassis Patrol. 4.2 turbo diesel, bloody huge truck gearbox, tough as nail t/case, solid axles with coils front and rear. All you have to do to make these things awesome offroad is a set of ARB lockers, any one of the 6 inch lifts avaiable off the shelf with rear A-arm and five link front, rockhopper gearset, 4.88:1 r&ps out of a 2.8 GQ patrol and a set of 38's and your away. It's so bloody easy every second tough 4x4 in Australia is a bloody Nissan.

i'm moving to Australia. :D

http://groups.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=MyPhotos_GetPubPhoto&PhotoID=nJwAAAA8N4t7Lp6kd8SN!!djp*cP7TCQD0NkSZl1WH 1higgwP2uC3TlaRpwoY01cLs*OaFAGB0oE

there actually was a really nice '69 KL60 (TLCish ones) for sale in town and it took all my might not to buy it. It would have been a fun truck.

And check out this link for more Patrol info:
http://groups.msn.com/NissanPatrolClubAlbuquerque/_homepage.msnw?pgmarket=en-us

great job of cut and paste on particular comments. but here is a related tech question, why in the hell is the catylic converter of the v-6 always have a pinging sound. oh another thing if you have ever noticed when you put a lift kit, the front driver side A- arm appears like it is shorter then the passenger side any ideas

Originally posted by obex26
well you know i honestly cant say that i understand that Heep thing, tell me bad ass how many dana 35's have you ever gone hard core with? or are you a 4cyl heep owner? :flipoff2: as for the noodles, well its nissin not nissan the noodle factory is next door, they have to eat somewhere:D


first..... its a friggin joke.

2nd.... you see a hell of alot more jeeps in the hardcore than you do nissins... :D

3rd dana 35? as in c clip? nope never had one of them.....


4th, lots of hard core 4 poppers out there that do damned well...... ebgine isnt always necessary for hardcore.... with that said i do have a 4.0 :flipoff2:



again as someone else stated...... show a need for a nissin forum.......... a few vehicles doesnt cut it..... and check my posts.... you dont see me much on the jeep forum because as ive said before..... none of them are good enough, stock.... so you end up with many manufactors parts on a hard core rig.... thats why my home is more on the gen 4x4......


i think ill have some noodles now :flipoff2:

So should i make a pot of beef or chicken noodle? and then we can go next door to check on if they have figured the damn pinging noise yet :D

Originally posted by badassjeepguy





again as someone else stated...... show a need for a nissin forum.......... a few vehicles doesnt cut it..... and check my posts.... you dont see me much on the jeep forum because as ive said before..... none of them are good enough, stock.... so you end up with many manufactors parts on a hard core rig.... thats why my home is more on the gen 4x4......


i think ill have some noodles now :flipoff2:


i would agree here whole heartedly.....when i started building my Isuzu (insert Nissan or whatever here) i didn't need "Isuzu"tech....because i could count the # of people who had done a similar swap on one hand...and i thought it should be done differently. (and as we all are, i am still in progress....)

best thing i have done to date was get rid of a ton of Isuzu parts in favor of Jeep, chevy, or whatever parts....that were specifically selected.

does my rig have a home on Pirate?....NO...........BUT, really YES in General 4x4....this is where the knowledge is that will allow you to build with commonly used and tested solutions to issues you need to solve on your "whatever " rig.

face it .......what you really like is the Body......after that you just want shit that doesn't break :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Lon wlf
They even have an International forum and they haven't made one for 21 years.

That's because IH's were built tough to begin with and there are probably more IHs being off-roaded most days than a month of Nissan wheeling. Short of a SPOA and a Dana 60 rear axle for the rock crawlers that might need it, there isn't much else to do to a Scout II for example. Just "tuning" stuff like lockers, fender radiusing, etc., etc.

Besides, if you had enough coin you could buy a new Scout today via the aftermarket. I think that pretty much everything is still available including body tubs and such. Some assembly required. :D

This whole Pirate4x4 BBS takes money to run. The owner (Lance) certainly isn't going to create a Nissan forum if it is going to be filled with cruft like fender flares, or noisy cat converters (WTF?). It sucks his CPU and net bandwidth as well as filling the DB with more crap than it is worth (more CPU, I/O b/w and disk space). I certainly wouldn't do it at my site.

Just my spin.

r@m

I think there is one thing that non Nissan owners are missing and that is the fact that when a person buys a Nissan and then want's to do some good mods for it, there is nothing available in the aftermarket. This is the reason that some of them have come onto this board. Now, if there were only a few Nissan owners and they only wanted say some 31's and a body lift, they would be stupid to come on this hard core board, but there are many thousands of Nissan owners, and many including me, want hard core tech and parts. So, where else should we go? Nowhere, we are home, right here with every other guy or gal that wants what is not available in the mainstream. Do we need our own forum? Yes. Why? Because there is only one place for us to find what we want, and that is right here on the Pirate board. So, don't give us a forum, let us run amuck in this one and maybe in a few years, this biased non Nissan opinion stuff will go away like it did for all non Jeeps and domestics. BTW, does anyone here have a millermatic welder and a good chop saw that they want to sell? :smokin:

Originally posted by TRed
I think there is one thing that non Nissan owners are missing and that is the fact that when a person buys a Nissan and then want's to do some good mods for it, there is nothing available in the aftermarket. This is the reason that some of them have come onto this board. Now, if there were only a few Nissan owners and they only wanted say some 31's and a body lift, they would be stupid to come on this hard core board, but there are many thousands of Nissan owners, and many including me, want hard core tech and parts. So, where else should we go? Nowhere, we are home, right here with every other guy or gal that wants what is not available in the mainstream. Do we need our own forum? Yes. Why? Because there is only one place for us to find what we want, and that is right here on the Pirate board. So, don't give us a forum, let us run amuck in this one and maybe in a few years, this biased non Nissan opinion stuff will go away like it did for all non Jeeps and domestics. BTW, does anyone here have a millermatic welder and a good chop saw that they want to sell? :smokin:


so do exactly that..... hang out in the gen 4x4 ( as i said before thats where i go and i own a "jeep" whats left of it) if nissin soup buggies become more frequent in the hardcore scene...then maybe after it is seen, you may get what your askin for....

Originally posted by obex26
So should i make a pot of beef or chicken noodle? and then we can go next door to check on if they have figured the damn pinging noise yet :D


beef! and just add more rice the ping should go away :D :flipoff2:

fair enough to me " a Nissan owner" i can hang on thegeneral board for now till support grows to the next level. all opinions good and bad can be delt with. If i can get my questions answered , and givin a little help, the flaming can come with the owning of one. do any of the other nissan owners feel this is fair enough.


BTW since the mention of isuzus, i have seen 6 amigo's that are lifted and fully rigged here in vegas, one from cali, one from az, north carolina, brit columb, color, and oregon, just thought it was weird thats all. :)

Sure, I think as far as swapping in non-nissan parts, the owner should go to the gen 4x4 section for answers. That makes sense for me. No need to have a Nissan section when you're asking questions about D44s and 302s.

BUT, when I have a question regarding my Nissan drivetrain and until there is a Nissan section, I guess I will just have to put a question up in the gen 4x4 and hope the few fellow Nissan owners will respond (and of course, anyone else who might have some knowledge on the subject).

To sum it up, I really don't care too much, as of right now, about a Nissan specific section, as long as my questions get answered. The only thing that is nice about brand specific forums is that you can just browse and read other's posts and learn. Although, I think a Nissan section would, in turn, lead to more Nissan members ("hardcore" or not, I don't care), and create a better source of knowledge for me :D

Originally posted by Pathmaker
Sure, I think as far as swapping in non-nissan parts, the owner should go to the gen 4x4 section for answers. That makes sense for me. No need to have a Nissan section when you're asking questions about D44s and 302s.

BUT, when I have a question regarding my Nissan drivetrain and until there is a Nissan section, I guess I will just have to put a question up in the gen 4x4 and hope the few fellow Nissan owners will respond (and of course, anyone else who might have some knowledge on the subject).

To sum it up, I really don't care too much, as of right now, about a Nissan specific section, as long as my questions get answered. The only thing that is nice about brand specific forums is that you can just browse and read other's posts and learn. Although, I think a Nissan section would, in turn, lead to more Nissan members ("hardcore" or not, I don't care), and create a better source of knowledge for me :D


hard core or not? go to another board newbie.... this IS A HARDCORE SIGHT............. the rest can get the fawk out! your attitude is why we dont need a stinkin nissin site.... we will end up with a bunch of pansies talkin bout the friggin stereos.... :rolleyes: leave!

Weenieassjeepguy you talk big sitting behind a screen, you probably run a stock wrangler or something weak. If you don't like us here go back to the JEEP forum since this is general we aren't invading your personal Heep space.:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Lon wlf
Weenieassjeepguy you talk big sitting behind a screen, you probably run a stock wrangler or something weak. If you don't like us here go back to the JEEP forum since this is general we aren't invading your personal Heep space.:flipoff2:


trust me asshole ill talk big in person too...... youve been here a day and your telling me to go BACK to the jeep forum.... hello? stoopid fawk i post on general for the stated reasons in previous posts.... you ARE invading my space along with many others when you say you dont care if there hardcore or not.....people like you are what ruin it for the other nissan owners who want to be taken serious..... fawkin leave! :mad3: :mad2: :mad3: :nuke: :mad3:

badassjeepguy

Come on mate, give the guy a go. I know your a mechanical engineer who drives the worlds toughest jeep through the worlds toughest terrain and can fix anything that brakes on the trail with a piece of fencing wire and you knew all this from birth but the guy just wants some info.

With a handle like badassjeepguy are you sure you just don't type tough but really hangout at the Blue Oyster Bar?

Get over your bad attitude and start being part of the solution instead of part of the problem. Gee you must be a worry to you mother.:p

Originally posted by All 4 Fun
badassjeepguy

Come on mate, give the guy a go. I know your a mechanical engineer who drives the worlds toughest jeep through the worlds toughest terrain and can fix anything that brakes on the trail with a piece of fencing wire and you knew all this from birth but the guy just wants some info.

With a handle like badassjeepguy are you sure you just don't type tough but really hangout at the Blue Oyster Bar?

Get over your bad attitude and start being part of the solution instead of part of the problem. Gee you must be a worry to you mother.:p



so do exactly that..... hang out in the gen 4x4 ( as i said before thats where i go and i own a "jeep" whats left of it) if nissin soup buggies become more frequent in the hardcore scene...then maybe after it is seen, you may get what your askin for....


this was from my post before these......... but this page is a hardcore page and this is why i responded the way i did when he said he didnt care if it was hardcore or not. simple as that....



guess you know bout the blue oyster? is this where you hang?

solution..... i posted one in one of my first posts on here...... :flipoff2: newbie

bigassjeepguy,

I think I'm going to go with the idea that you do, in fact, just sit behind a computer screen raising hell all day, because if you were as "hardcore" as you claim, and wheeled as much as you supposedly do, how the hell would you have time to get your precious 5,000 posts or whatever insane amount you have? Real wheelers just wheel and let others decide if they're "hardcore" or not, rather than you who must convice others you're tough shit by being a dick. For me, I'll gain respect through driving skill, and not how good I seem in type.

And if you didn't realize it, when I said I didn't care if whoever answered my question was "hardcore" or not, I put it in quotations because hardcore is whatever you make it. What I meant was that I don't care if it's someone as "hardcore" as you who answers my question, or someone not "hardcore" at all, as long as it gets answered, although I do think I'll get better answers by coming to this board. Many people know different things about trucks and 4wheeling, so I don't need only mechanical engineers answering my questions, just someone who knows what I don't. Get off yourself.

I agree with badassjeepguy, I am only here for hardcore, I have a Nissan, and I want good tech and non of the wimpy stuff that I am here to get away from. So even though Pathmaker has good points, he should care a whole lot about if the stuff is hardcore or not. He is here to get the kind of help that no Nissan specific board can offer, so it is very important that it remains hardcore! I am very excited to be a newbie here, BTW. I am spending alot of time now trying to get more info on making my own parts and buying my own welding equipment, it is all I think about. I want to quit my job and weld and drink beer all day. Then go out and test break some chit! So yes, all pussy chit chat should go fuck off, and let the boys get fucking busy. I'm out!:smokin:

oops, i do see how that could have been taken the wrong way. I forgot the key word "answers" after "nissan memeber's." Go fig.