View Full Version : Lincoln Lock A Disco
scoutmanss2
02-12-2008, 05:33 PM
HUH, SOUNDS LIKE A SONG, DON'T IT. NO REALLY, CAN ANYONE TELL ME IF YOU CAN LINCOLN LOCK (WELD-UP) THE REAR OF A 96' DISCO OR WILL IT MESS UP THE TRACTION CONTROL? PLEASE SOMEONE GET BACK WITH ME, I NEED TO KNOW SOON, I HAVE MY 3RD MEMBER OUT RIGHT NOW.:nuke:
sterlingautosport
02-12-2008, 06:26 PM
You can but will break axle shafts every time you turn a corner.The short side.:flipoff2:
maxyedor
02-12-2008, 09:13 PM
The 96 Disco has no traction controll to screw up, but it does have axel shafts to break and ring and pinions to crack the teeth off of. As for which axel breaks first, I think that depends on which direction you're turning, although the short side is a decent guess.
discodaze
02-12-2008, 09:27 PM
I gernaded the third member out wheeling and ended up welding it up to get home. Drove 3 hours over the mountain, and then drove it around 3 weeks on the road with no problems until I could get a new one. Pretty chirpy on the corners though
spork2367
02-12-2008, 09:33 PM
is your capslock button broken? and if you don't know whether or not your vehicle has traction control, you shouldn't be welding anything.
sterlingautosport
02-13-2008, 07:28 AM
The 96 Disco has no traction controll to screw up, but it does have axel shafts to break and ring and pinions to crack the teeth off of. As for which axel breaks first, I think that depends on which direction you're turning, although the short side is a decent guess.It was no guess I did it myself when I first got my truck.did not make it out of the drive way.:D
weld it!
02-13-2008, 08:10 AM
I still have a carrier out of my of disco that is lincolnlocked if you want it. If you put in some great basin rover shafts when you weld it! you shouldn't have any issues. I used to break my detroit lockers all the time and finally got tired of it and welded the rear up. I drove it that way for 3 years on 36" TSL's. If you are running stocky shafts they will last for a little while with it welded, but just be prepared to pull the broken chunks out of the diff on your way to work.
revor
02-13-2008, 03:37 PM
Snap Crackle Pop..
Disco one rear rear shafts break at about 2500 ft pounds "on the machine". Worse than the fronts. Any Locker and even a Tru Trac warrant's upgraded shafts.
Braking axles with Detroit Locker = Braking Detroit Locker (85%)
weld it!
02-14-2008, 02:27 PM
Change that to.... broken shaft=broken detroit 100% of the time.
Snap Crackle Pop..
Disco one rear rear shafts break at about 2500 ft pounds "on the machine". Worse than the fronts. Any Locker and even a Tru Trac warrant's upgraded shafts.
Braking axles with Detroit Locker = Braking Detroit Locker (85%)
jeepdaddytj
02-14-2008, 03:37 PM
anyone got and great basin 24 spline shafts for sale ,,, i ordered a detriot like 2 weeks ago:shaking: yeah i know... how fast will i break stock shafts running 305/75r16 mtr's?
FiveO Disco
02-14-2008, 08:09 PM
Whats wrong with Rover Tracks shafts? Probably pick up a new set of RT shafts from Keith for less than a used set of GBRs. Not taking sides I have GBR fronts but for the money can't beat RTs
JasperG
02-14-2008, 09:33 PM
I wonder if Maxi Drive axles are still available. Didnt they retire. That is what I heard anyway. I do know it was for sale for a while. I was under the impression that Bills axle were Maxi Drives. hell what do I know, Im still churning away on my old 10 splines with ARB lockers. Gotta love the mud as it is pretty forgiving for the most part!
scoutmanss2
02-14-2008, 09:39 PM
caps lock off, satisfied. anyway- if i go with rover tracks heavy duty shafts will welding work? or am i wasting my time.:confused:
jimfoo
02-14-2008, 09:45 PM
Anything can be broken, but RT shafts are the strongest. A Lincoln locker can put more stress on the shafts, but in the end it all comes down to your driving.
scoutmanss2
02-14-2008, 09:50 PM
i'm only running 31's dc crushers, so you think they will hold up, i do drive on the road quite a bit
weld it!
02-15-2008, 09:33 AM
They will eventually fatigue and fail. Any axle shaft does. A spooled diff. will of course, shorten the time it takes to break an axle. I always looked at it as I can buy 2 sets of shafts for the price of a detroit and a set of shafts. If you do end up lincolnlocking your diff be sure to weld the side gears to the carrier, and the spiders to the side gears and the carrier. Don't be afraid to weld the piss out of it.
revor
02-15-2008, 02:03 PM
Gotta remember we're dealing with a Diff that rivals a Suzuki Samurai diff in strength! The cross pin in a factory Rover diff is junk, welding the side gears to the carrier will likely weaken an already weak piece of the puzzle. Normally with 3.54 gears you have a pretty tough arrangment after you eliminate the two weakest points of the axle, the carrier and the axles. Putting a locker in place will fix that weak carrier, putting a locker in place will require you use upgraded axleshafts. I've seen two Rover diffs welded and then removed after failure, in both cases the carrier split in half on one side, both where using upgraded axleshafts, both switched to automatic lockers and are happy now.
Additionally the Rover diff has a Spiral bevel type gearset, no hypoid offset at all leaving it with a rather small pinion gear, the stress that a welded diff will apply to this weak pinion gear will greatly accelerate it's demise, this of course depends a lot on the terrain you drive. Welded diffs also beat the hell out of shafts, the Rover spline is only 1.15" at the minor diameter. The equates to further potential under the weight of a really overweight Disco.
Stock Rover axles won't make it a mile on a trail with a welded diff, upgraded axles for Rovers start at $400 a pair going up from there (way up) it's a supply and demand thing.
Spend the $500 and buy a Locker.
scoutmanss2
02-16-2008, 08:40 AM
Thanx alot you guys. you last two guys have really helped me. isn't that what this is for? anyway it looks like i'll be buying (for 2 disco's) a locker and upgraded shafts. now my next question, anyone got a real good deal on- 2 detroits and 2 sets of shafts ( all for the rear) one 95' and one 96' disco(should be the same):p
revor
02-16-2008, 09:44 AM
One and the same..
Feel free to call if you have further Q's
Roxtar
02-22-2008, 07:38 AM
Does anyone make a spool for LRs?
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