What was stock in the 1996 ,4.6 automatic rovers, has disc brakes, do not know many details as it is burned , but axles look to be ok.
If anyone knows of another site to find ratios, or if serial number can be used.
thanks in advance
bill

Are you talking about Range Rover or a Discovery? I assume because of the 4.6 it's a Range Rover They both had 3.54 gears and 24spline axels, the diference is minor and in the design of the 3rd member and which side the diff is on.

All modern coil sprung rovers are 3.54 R&P, the axle is nothing special nor worth particularly much $$.

Just wondering if they were worthy of installing in single seat buggy, $150 complete for the pr. Thanks for r@p info . Yes is a range rover

Just wondering if they were worthy of installing in single seat buggy, $150 complete for the pr. Thanks for r@p info . Yes is a range rover

No, they are probably not a good choice, even at 150$.

Just wondering if they were worthy of installing in single seat buggy

It would be ok in a remote-control buggy, as long as you weren't hammering it too hard. :flipoff2:

The hold up OK for mild offroading on a ~3 ton vehicle, so if you're building light, why not? You get pretty decent steering angles with the open knuckles and my rear axle shafts were pristine when i replaced them with MDE stuff. Brakes are pretty good with calipers much better sealed than on Defenders and older RR's.

But don't attempt to upgrade the shafts or CV's, they are prohibititively expensive, if available at all. Run as is or not at all. TrueTracs etc for standard Rover 3:ds will fit though, with the use of a spacer under the ring gear. You can get lower gearings as well, but if you're considering that for a non-RR application, you are looking at the wrong axles.

They are driver side drop, which renders them useless on all other LandRovers that are pass drop.

If they were Disco 1 axles at least you could pull out the thirds and upgrade to Toyota stuff. That might make them worth $150 for the pair.

Really? MY father owns a 95' Disco lifted on 35's. and I noticed that his axles didn't look and different from my 4runners 8" and I never knew if they were stouter or not. Good info.

Paging all haters!

How many of you have actually seen broken P38 stuff first hand?

I'm not saying they're indestructible, but way better than RRC stuff. As long as he puts them on something light, don't need to upgrade them and gets them virtually for free, why not?

I beleive the P38's with the 4.6 have 4 pin carriers.

-Jeff

Paging all haters!

How many of you have actually seen broken P38 stuff first hand?

I'm not saying they're indestructible, but way better than RRC stuff. As long as he puts them on something light, don't need to upgrade them and gets them virtually for free, why not?

Better question, Why? You can pick up 9's with the puny 28 spline (still stonger) for $50 at a junk yards. You can even find 60 rears for $250. For the front, grab a 44 for cheap. I seriously can't think of any reason to jump IN to rover axles when you don't have to. The rest of us are trying to get out of them.

Was only considering this pr of axles for the convenience of disc brakes, getting harder to find toy axles in any shape, Land rover must have thought they were ok to be run by 4.6. Axles are stouter than the toys i have already. 5 bolt pattern , don't know what fits. This pair has low mileage and probably never saw much 4wd. Again thinking of a single seat buggy w vtec power maybe 1500#

This pair has low mileage and probably never saw much 4wd.

Every mile was 4wd! :flipoff2:

Better question, Why? You can pick up 9's (...) for $50 at a junk yards. You can even find 60 rears for $250

Because wilsby is in Stockholm while your junk yards are in San Diego area I presume

:D

Heck,I too would go "shopping" every weekend if I lived there! :p

Noone's answering my question, how many have seen them break first hand?

For perspective, it is probably easier to source two front Volvo portal axles here than to find decent, disc braked Dana axles that are low milage and not rusted out.

Danas are rare, exotic, foreign and expensive!

Yup, 2 CV's and a rear shaft, Local shop owner. He was doing some tough stuff with the truck for sure but he was not locked.

The poor P38 perhaps it has better components than it's earlier breathren, but it's reputation also suffers from those same relatives.

Noone's answering my question, how many have seen them break first hand?

For perspective, it is probably easier to source two front Volvo portal axles here than to find decent, disc braked Dana axles that are low milage and not rusted out.

Danas are rare, exotic, foreign and expensive!

Hmmm, are you offering a trade? :D

-Jeff

Noone's answering my question, how many have seen them break first hand?

For perspective, it is probably easier to source two front Volvo portal axles here than to find decent, disc braked Dana axles that are low milage and not rusted out.

Danas are rare, exotic, foreign and expensive!

I'll send you two fully pimped 9/60's that are sorta rover width if you send me 2 404 steering axles new or in great shape.

The hold up OK for mild offroading on a ~3 ton vehicle, so if you're building light, why not? You get pretty decent steering angles with the open knuckles and my rear axle shafts were pristine when i replaced them with MDE stuff. Brakes are pretty good with calipers much better sealed than on Defenders and older RR's.

But don't attempt to upgrade the shafts or CV's, they are prohibititively expensive, if available at all. Run as is or not at all. TrueTracs etc for standard Rover 3:ds will fit though, with the use of a spacer under the ring gear. You can get lower gearings as well, but if you're considering that for a non-RR application, you are looking at the wrong axles.

They are driver side drop, which renders them useless on all other LandRovers that are pass drop.

Which land rover axles are drivers drop? Im not a land rover guy, but im looking at doing something custom with some toyota thirds and longs. I need a drivers drop housing though?

Range Rover 1995-2001, also known as P38.

The outer ends of the housing differ from "normal" LR stuff so you may need to rework them. And by then you have figured out that these axles are built with standard LR banjos which they flipped before welding everything on. Confirmed by the serial numbers being upside down!

Which land rover axles are drivers drop?

Well that depends which side the driver sits on.:laughing:
Over here's it's almost all of them.

Well that depends which side the driver sits on.:laughing:
Over here's it's almost all of them.

touche'

I beleive the P38's with the 4.6 have 4 pin carriers.

-Jeff

No, some might but not all.

I picked a P38 rear up the other day for virtually nothing and pulled the diff to see if it was a 4 pin - it wasn't. :( They are however bigger diameter on the mounting flange to the case, and a little bit beefier all round. Nothing is interchangeable with the old axle.

The diff is your drivers side, and the axles are 6 inches wider than the old Range Rovers ones.

What did it come out of?

4.6 rears are four pin according to Ashcroft, 4.6 fronts and both ends on diesels and 4.0s are all two pin.

Sorry, I have no idea what the axle was out of, it was just lying in the dirt in a metal recyclers yard. Bought it by weight :D and now I have no use for it. :shaking:

Sorry, I have no idea what the axle was out of, it was just lying in the dirt in a metal recyclers yard. Bought it by weight :D and now I have no use for it. :shaking:

Melt it down and make knives out of it:flipoff2:

Melt it down and make knives out of it:flipoff2:


Wouldn't it break? or at least leak oil? :flipoff2:

Melt it down and make knives out of it:flipoff2:

I would, but the shitty steel wouldn't hold an edge. And the other thing is, matron doesn't even let me have a sharp pencil anymore. :flipoff2: