: whats the strongest rear D60 shafts


98strangler
02-14-2008, 12:37 PM
i know chromoly is extremely strong. but is there any shafts out that really stand out from the rest. i want to build it beefed out and no i dont want a d70 of 80 . to big. running a 42 or possible a 44 inch tire.
and one more question what year of truck (preferably) ford is the best to get a full floating d60 out of and does it make a differnce if its a f250 or 350. only thing i can think of is that the f250 might be 6 lug and semi float rather than 8 lug and full float. help a brother out and please dont be retarded and tell me to look in the search because i tried that and didnt have any patience to search every post that said DANA 60. im not completly new the hard core wheeling but my 37,s and d30/35 arent gonna cut it thanks alot :smokin:

pilothillcrawler
02-14-2008, 02:01 PM
dodge = 35 spline factory

98strangler
02-14-2008, 02:24 PM
thats great but i want a ford dana 60

retardatwork
02-14-2008, 02:30 PM
you sir are a retard

jeep937
02-14-2008, 02:40 PM
I have a '79 Ford D 60. It looks pretty beefy with it's full floating axle centers sticking out. I think I'm gonna use it on my TJ.

Todd W
02-14-2008, 03:04 PM
14 bolt.
OEM Shafts.

OR

300m shafts stand-out from the rest.

ANd if you searchd you'd realize a d70 or 14b shaved are no bigger than a d60 that cost more $ to make as strong.

UCTJ
02-14-2008, 03:09 PM
14 bolt.
OEM Shafts.

OR

300m shafts stand-out from the rest.

ANd if you searchd you'd realize a d70 or 14b shaved are no bigger than a d60 that cost more $ to make as strong.

Troof...you can get and build a 14 bolt cheaper than a 60 and its still gonna be stronger on top of that.

J.Mehoff
02-14-2008, 04:42 PM
you sir are a retard

X2, had you spent 5 fawking minutes looking around, you would have learned the answer to your question.
And by the way your 2 days late. :flipoff2:

Dodgen
02-14-2008, 05:00 PM
help a brother out and please dont be retarded and tell me to look in the search because i tried that and didnt have any patience to search every post that said DANA 60. im not completly new the hard core wheeling but my 37,s and d30/35 arent gonna cut it thanks alot :smokin:

This tells us alot and is the biggest problem that the Pirate old schoolers hate. No one here is going to help you if you won't first help yourself. Take the time, also known as patience, to search and I guarantee you will find your answer, God knows there is plenty of D60 info on here. Hell, my fiance built one for me for Christmas after, you guessed it, researching. Take this advice from a fellow newbie.

And you can't be doing shit that Hard-Core with 37's and a 30/35.

420willys
02-14-2008, 05:04 PM
dodge = 35 spline factory

what year did dodge use the a 35 spline rear 60. i was under the impresion that the only 35 spline dana 60 rear was from a chevy cube van. to the OP just use a dana 70 or a 14 bolt, alot stronger in stock form without the upgraded shafts. if your dead set on a 60 atleast start with a ford E-350 or 250 they have the big boar spindle's or check out mid 80's dodge 60's.

LISTEN to what peaple hear are saying, it will cost more to be dead set on the wrong axle from the start, jason.

BigHG
02-14-2008, 06:22 PM
You can get a Ford (like it matters :shaking: ) Dana axle out of an early 90's E350. Your choice D60 or D70, they put in both. They have the benefit of being the "U" version, which means they have a smooth bottom.

If you get the 60, it will be 30 spine but it will be a heavy duty version with thick tubes and large bore spindles that will fit 35 spline shafts. Remember, 35 spline shafts will require a new carrier. You were planning locking it though, right? So now you've spent some $$$.

IF you select the D70 version, weld up the spiders and your done.

There is your gift. Next time search for a while longer. :flipoff2:

kirbyiv
02-14-2008, 07:40 PM
14 bolt times eleventy trillion. way mo cheaper and stronger than a 60.

Mr.N
02-14-2008, 07:59 PM
what year did dodge use the a 35 spline rear 60. i was under the impresion that the only 35 spline dana 60 rear was from a chevy cube van. Correct.
However I've only doc's from 1967-2002, so anything out of those years I prove.

I've a list somewhere, I know Billa list is in the tech section.

Mr.N
02-14-2008, 08:00 PM
dodge = 35 spline factory
Prove it.

I'll even give you a good start -> http://www2.dana.com/expertforms/depdf.aspx?prod=AXL
http://www.mypartshop.com

98strangler
02-15-2008, 12:34 AM
is there a differnce between a 14 bolt chevy and ford dana 6o. ie bolt [patten , i be able to run a any 8 lug rim or just a chevy bolt pattern

UCTJ
02-15-2008, 05:33 AM
is there a differnce between a 14 bolt chevy and ford dana 6o. ie bolt [patten , i be able to run a any 8 lug rim or just a chevy bolt pattern

The newer Ford axles have metric lug pattern (I wanna say late 90s on) but unless I am incorrect and say you ran a 79 Ford HP 60 front and a 14 bolt rear there are not any differeance in the lug pattern, thats why you often see guys running H2 rims with this combo. A friend of mine has an 86 Ford front axle and a 14 bolt rear and ran H2 rims till he went with beadlocks.

Blackjeep2
02-15-2008, 06:47 AM
I bought some 60's out of a f350 - - bored spindles(100.00) 35 spline shafts (95 ea.) ARB (800). Just so you know what to expect. That does not include rear disk brakes, ring/pinion, master install. It is more expensive than a 14 bolt, but your not plowing the ground every where you go especially with 37's (which is what I am running). If you have surivived with the stock 30 and 35 you will definatley be ok with the 60 in stock form. Put some disk brakes on it (300) and call it good. For now any ways.

cj8rckcrlr
02-15-2008, 07:00 AM
why not just bore the spindles and run an aftermarket 35spline shaft? thats always worked for me...i could break rear shafts on command with the 30spliners....went to 35 and problems were solved....not sayin they're unbreakable, but i had no problems with 39krawlers and a v8....

xjemily
02-15-2008, 07:06 AM
x 1 billion on the 14 bolt,just the stock shafts are almost indestructible,up grade them and nuff said:D

xjemily
02-15-2008, 07:09 AM
is there a differnce between a 14 bolt chevy and ford dana 6o. ie bolt [patten , i be able to run a any 8 lug rim or just a chevy bolt pattern

im running an 88 hp kingpin reverse cut d 60 and a mid 80s model full float 14bolt, they have the same bolt pattern.

UCTJ
02-15-2008, 07:11 AM
x 1 billion on the 14 bolt,just the stock shafts are almost indestructible,up grade them and nuff said:D

And the other nice thing about the 14 bolt is that the OEM shafts are dirt cheap, you can carry spares if you were ever worried about breaking them. Now if all you plan to run is a 37 yeah it may drag more than a 60 but in your first post you did say that you may possibly run a 42-44" tire...that to me screams 14 bolt.

el ranger loco
02-15-2008, 07:48 AM
im not completly new the hard core wheeling but my 37,s and d30/35 arent gonna cut it thanks alot :smokin:

Thats hardcore..:evil: Theres a newbie section for ass holes like you.

kirbyiv
02-15-2008, 07:54 AM
1. after you pay for boring the spindles on a 60 and then buy aftermarket shafts, you will already have a few hundred more in it than a 14 bolt.

2. detroits for 14 bolts are cheap.

3. 14 bolts are usually cheaper than 60s

4. stock shafts for a 14 bolt are pretty easy to find if you break one on a trip (as opposed to a aftermarket 35 spline 60 shaft)

5. My 14 bolt only has 1/4 inch less clearance than my front HP60 and all I did was grind the bottom lip down a bit

6. gears are easy to set up in 14 bolts.

7. gears are strong as hell in 14 bolts (plus they have a 3rd pinion bearing)

8. you can run a pinion guard...mine has saved my yoke a number of times thus far.

nuff said, go 14 bolt.:smokin:

420willys
02-15-2008, 08:16 AM
1. after you pay for boring the spindles on a 60 and then buy aftermarket shafts, you will already have a few hundred more in it than a 14 bolt.

2. detroits for 14 bolts are cheap.

3. 14 bolts are usually cheaper than 60s

4. stock shafts for a 14 bolt are pretty easy to find if you break one on a trip (as opposed to a aftermarket 35 spline 60 shaft)

5. My 14 bolt only has 1/4 inch less clearance than my front HP60 and all I did was grind the bottom lip down a bit

6. gears are easy to set up in 14 bolts.

7. gears are strong as hell in 14 bolts (plus they have a 3rd pinion bearing)

8. you can run a pinion guard...mine has saved my yoke a number of times thus far.

nuff said, go 14 bolt.:smokin:

100% correct, if your looking for the cheapest way to gain strength go with the 14 bolt and yes the bolting pattern is the same. the only thing to look for ( dont quote me on this ) is some chevy rims wont fit a ford hub. another words the chevy i think are smaller in the hole index. correct me if im wrong, but i belive this is true on some of the chevy rims, jason.

Budd
02-15-2008, 08:28 AM
100% correct, if your looking for the cheapest way to gain strength go with the 14 bolt and yes the bolting pattern is the same. the only thing to look for ( dont quote me on this ) is some chevy rims wont fit a ford hub. another words the chevy i think are smaller in the hole index. correct me if im wrong, but i belive this is true on some of the chevy rims, jason.


I believe that is true to a certain point. I have a friend that had to bore the center of H2's to clear the Sterling 10.25".

xjemily
02-15-2008, 08:37 AM
I believe that is true to a certain point. I have a friend that had to bore the center of H2's to clear the Sterling 10.25".

whats that have to do with a 14 bolt?

BENNY87
02-15-2008, 08:44 AM
i'd listen to what these guys say. i had the same axle combo as you before with the 30/35 on 35s and now im building it on 42s with a 79 hp 60 and 14 bt. its a strong and cheap setup. it works.

Budd
02-15-2008, 09:17 AM
whats that have to do with a 14 bolt?

Nothing - but they were also discussing ford axles - sorry for the confusion.

xjemily
02-15-2008, 10:53 AM
Nothing - but they were also discussing ford axles - sorry for the confusion.

what is the 10.25 comparable to?ive never seen one run in a trail rig b4

kirbyiv
02-15-2008, 11:41 AM
I believe they have 35 spline shafts, 10.25" ring gear (obviously) and I am not sure of the price and/or availability of lockers etc. Newer models are the 170mm bolt pattern.

Budd
02-15-2008, 11:48 AM
what is the 10.25 comparable to?ive never seen one run in a trail rig b4

Probably the 14 bolt - I'd guess. My friend just welded his up in his buggy. Has never had an issue with - and he isn't light on the go pedal. Especially up backdoor.

Beat95YJ
02-15-2008, 11:54 AM
Sandy Cone 300M shafts.

txdave
02-15-2008, 01:46 PM
Probably the 14 bolt - I'd guess. My friend just welded his up in his buggy. Has never had an issue with - and he isn't light on the go pedal. Especially up backdoor.

one of the guys in my group runs a sterling 10.25. he got it for free when he bought his d60 front.its a good wheeling axle.its cheap as a 14 bolt,got a big ring gear,35 spline stock shafts and is easy to swap discs onto.he beats it pretty hard on 44's with an ls1 and hasnt had any problems with the stock shafts.

txdave
02-15-2008, 01:57 PM
I believe they have 35 spline shafts, 10.25" ring gear (obviously) and I am not sure of the price and/or availability of lockers etc. Newer models are the 170mm bolt pattern.



detriot has a full case locker for it.yukon offers at least 5.13's for it.

420willys
02-15-2008, 04:34 PM
the only down side to a 10.25 is the axles use a differnt pressure angle on the splines than the dana axles. so haven custom chrome axle made is a little harder. maybe im wrong but i dont think theres alot of after market for the shafts them self, agin i could be wrong. other than than there very beefy and can hold there own in the top three axle ( 14 bolt, dana 70 and 10.25 ), jason.

98strangler
02-16-2008, 04:16 AM
right on i really apreciate the info im gonna go ahead a get a 14 bolt cause the only real thing holding me back was the bolt pattern and full/semi floating part ofit. this site is really help full. im 20 years old and no im not as hard core as you other guys because my rigs not sittin on 44s and 60's with 400hp motors. but calling me an asshole be cause i figured askin more experinced people rather than the newbies, is fucking rediculous. every forum i look at has bashin on it.be fuckin help not a fag. thats why people come here to learn so they dont fuck up. i learn alot now and im getting my axle after work in the morning. so thank you to the people who werent dicks about giveing advice.

ItsaCJ6
02-16-2008, 08:38 PM
I thought that this horse might be atleast a different color DEAD horse than the 40 trillion other ones.....I guess Not.

Stude4x
02-16-2008, 08:56 PM
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