: dana30/vacuum disc/aussie locker???


runemuck
02-22-2008, 12:16 PM
92 yj I have an aussie locker and I am not sure what to do with the shafts ....will these hold up??? same old thing low on funds.....

lowrider_31
02-22-2008, 01:02 PM
The stock shafts will not hold up. I'm running open front diff on 33's and I have blown six shafts in the past year.

The Black Sheep
02-22-2008, 03:54 PM
This topic is very subjective based on driving style and setup. But i ran 35s on a aussie locked 30 for years, sold the axle and the guy whos running it now has still had no issues. If you drive it like a comp driver w/ built 60s then yeah you are probably gonna blow it, most likely the R&P on the 30 first however, maybe a U-joint.

Wild Hare
02-22-2008, 04:21 PM
The stock shafts will not hold up. I'm running open front diff on 33's and I have blown six shafts in the past year.

you must suck at driving. i am running 37's and welded up the front and have only grenaded 3 ujoints in 3 years on stock shafts

runemuck
02-22-2008, 04:37 PM
Due to lack of funds..I will drive um till they brake ..

lowrider_31
02-22-2008, 06:13 PM
you must suck at driving. i am running 37's and welded up the front and have only grenaded 3 ujoints in 3 years on stock shafts

Have you ever wheeled in the northeast? Up here sometimes you need to forget about crawlin and put it in second, and sometimes third.:flipoff2:

Wild Hare
02-22-2008, 06:20 PM
Have you ever wheeled in the northeast? Up here sometimes you need to forget about crawlin and put it in second, and sometimes third.:flipoff2:

i have mud and snow where i live. 3rd gear and hittin the rev limiter all the time:p

lowrider_31
02-22-2008, 06:30 PM
i have mud and snow where i live. 3rd gear and hittin the rev limiter all the time:p
I guess you just got lucky:).

Wild Hare
02-22-2008, 06:32 PM
I guess you just got lucky:).

Yeh, Luck. That must be it.

lowrider_31
02-23-2008, 11:37 AM
Yeh, Luck. That must be it.

Okay I give up you're a much better driver than me and I hope that someday I can be half the man you are.


Anyway, runemuck I would carry spare shafts with you, or try to find some disco YJ shafts with the 297x joint in them.The 260 joint is way to small to depend on. Either way have fun and stay safe.

offroadjunkie
02-23-2008, 12:20 PM
not sure about the aussie locker part but i ran an arb up front with the vacuum disconnect and had no issues with 33s, the guy who said he had blown 6 shafts just has a really heavy foot.

Wild Hare
02-23-2008, 12:24 PM
The stock shafts will not hold up. I'm running open front diff on 33's and I have blown six shafts in the past year.

hmmm, your open in front, only running 33's and your login is lowrider. but this is the non hard core section so to each his own.

runemuck
02-23-2008, 01:04 PM
thanks for your input everybody

lowrider_31
02-23-2008, 01:28 PM
hmmm, your open in front, only running 33's and your login is lowrider. but this is the non hard core section so to each his own.

Is your life that bad that you have to go on the internet and be a jerk?

Yes I am "only running 33's". This is my first jeep, I have been building hot rods with my dad since I was a little kid and in the past few years I have started getting into wheeling. Yes I do have a heavy foot, it's from years of driving pavement pounders that made some real horsepower unlike this POS jeep. If I had more money and time the 60 and 14b sitting in my shop would be getting set up to put in the jeep.Apperently you have a wild hare across your ass and don't remember what it was like when you first started wheeling.

Wild Hare
02-23-2008, 01:37 PM
Is your life that bad that you have to go on the internet and be a jerk?

Yes I am "only running 33's". This is my first jeep, I have been building hot rods with my dad since I was a little kid and in the past few years I have started getting into wheeling. Yes I do have a heavy foot, it's from years of driving pavement pounders that made some real horsepower unlike this POS jeep. If I had more money and time the 60 and 14b sitting in my shop would be getting set up to put in the jeep.Apperently you have a wild hare across your ass and don't remember what it was like when you first started wheeling.

thats great asshat. then don't go spouting all your freekin wisdom on people if you don't know what the hell you are talking about. people wheel on dana 30's all freekin day on 33's, 35's and 37's. so you telling someone you have broken 6 axles in a years time on an open 30 with 33's to let them think they have a pos axle is pure crap.

Wild Hare
02-23-2008, 01:39 PM
The stock shafts will not hold up. I'm running open front diff on 33's and I have blown six shafts in the past year.

you very first reply is pure crap. PERIOD:flipoff2:

bobnoxious
02-25-2008, 10:57 AM
If you run locked on 260 series joints, you will break them. Period. Maybe not the the first time out, but it won't take long:D

There's a reason so many people convert disco D30's (which have 260 series joints) to non-disco so they can run 297 series shafts and joints. The simple physics of the matter are that a 260 series u-joint (rated for 2350 lb/ft of torque) will fail when forced to move a 4000 lb rig driven by a locker...you don't even need to spin the tire to have a failure under these circumstances:shaking:, never mind spinning a tire aggressively, or (God forbid) popping a tire into the air while attempting hard obstacles.

Wild Hare
02-25-2008, 12:25 PM
uh yeh, but OP says typical short on funds, therefore running stock shafts is his option. Plus, with SO MANY people upgrading to 297's he can pick up trail spare stock shafts for next to nothing. We don't know how hard or often he wheels. I am still running stock shit on 37's and welded. Yeh I have spares and can change out an axle in 15minutes. I have broken 3 joints in 3 years so for 45minutes of work on the trail and no money spent my set up works fine.

Shaggygto
02-25-2008, 01:06 PM
ok, anything is possible. you can run the d30 with an aussie and survive. i believe they are just a lunch box locker similar to a lock-rite. apeter89 did it on his with 260 u-joints for quite some time. yes, it did break. that has to be expected, but the answer to the original question without getting into a pissing contest is.....yes, you can run it, but breakage is more likely and it is best to plan for it.

Wild Hare
02-25-2008, 01:33 PM
I agree:D

runemuck
02-25-2008, 04:14 PM
Thanks for all the help I know it is not a yes or no question ...it is what it is .....I have the aussie on my desk???? maybe I will try to find some axles with the bigger ujoints..so now the question is what will fit....some year xj?? all tjs?? now I need new seals and bearings ???? I'm a plumber I will find the money..its my jeep

Wild Hare
02-25-2008, 04:55 PM
shouldn't need new bearings. xj disco axles are what you'd want for the 297 joints. if you go to tj axles, thats when you'd need a new seal because you'd replace the right side 2 piece axle with a 1 piece and eliminate the disco fork assembly.

Shaggygto
02-25-2008, 06:14 PM
Hey runemuck,

check it out. run the locker with what you have. just don't push it too hard until you have the funds to carry some spare shafts. if you are going to upgrade the axles in your YJ and don't want to spend a bunch of money then try checking into some dana 44's from a late 80's / early 90's wagoneer. they aren't very expensive...i bought a matching set for less than $500. it takes minimal fab to put them in too. just run what you got until you can afford to go the direction you want to go. and have fun doing it!

runemuck
02-25-2008, 06:24 PM
thanks shag I do have fun....I already have a d44 in the rear from a 89 xj...I think I will carry some extra ujoints untill I can upgrade....

bobnoxious
02-26-2008, 05:39 AM
shouldn't need new bearings. xj disco axles are what you'd want for the 297 joints. if you go to tj axles, thats when you'd need a new seal because you'd replace the right side 2 piece axle with a 1 piece and eliminate the disco fork assembly.

Wrong. XJ disco axles are 260 series. You need 95 YJ front axles if you want 297 series joints/axles to "bolt in" and keep the disco.

Wild Hare
02-26-2008, 08:46 AM
Wrong. XJ disco axles are 260 series. You need 95 YJ front axles if you want 297 series joints/axles to "bolt in" and keep the disco.

your right, i thought i was quoting someone else stating xj axles