Picture 1

Picture 2

Looking at hitch access holes for big handed people.

Hinge from front. Roller bearing/cage design, with bronze impregnated bushing and zirc port.

hmmm picture didn't take

just bumper

bolt on latch

corner without tire carrier

system

Tire from side.

No bumper view. Note increased departure angle.

Is it an airplane or a rover?

With the power steering box problem and college getting out it gave me two weeks free. The side plates, gery can holder, hi-lift holder, and skid plate are in the cardboard stage still. They will be finished within the next month.

The bumper is 1/4" plate througout. 10,000 rated receiver hitch (rated prior to installing even!) inset and welded/braced on both sides. Other than what the pictures show, there is not much else to say. I worked with David Corbin (good friend that is the head desinger of our products) of Durango 4x4 (one of my employers) to come up with this. This is the prototype version. Durango 4x4 may change the deisgn slightly when they release it. Just so you guys don't think I forgot about you, mention my name to receive a VERY NICE DISCOUNT on the bumper should you decide to purchase it. The discount will be good for the first ten people to order the bumper that mention "Adam Way POR Discount". Oh yeah this bumper won't carry the typical rover BS pricing either. They expect to release it within the next two months. I will beat the living shiat out of it to make sure there are not any weak spots.

Let me know if you have questions.

Way

Looks awesome Adam I tried to get a Range Rover friend of mine to do the same thing but he wasn't into it. He's got the SG bumper so it would have been easy to just make the carrier.

Looks awesome Adam

You must be referring to my home body shop repair. LOL. Joking aside thanks. I just moved to Colorado Springs and haven't had much time until now to post. I saw your rear bumper pics as well. Super nice. The tow points on your vehicle will come in handy next time we do a trail :D

If your friend does not want to make one, he could order the tire carrier from Durango 4x4 and drill 3 holes and mount it to the SG (assuming it sticks out far enough to put tire carrier on that is). I built the system for my next tire size (37") and made clearance for 38" if I decide to go that route. The 33" tires look damn small being mounted so high. You would have to weld a block to the bumper for him (for hinge) , but it would be an easy job and an even easier case of beer for you for 10 minutes of work.

Way

Way,
That rocks.

I don't have access to a welder, and I don't have the time right now. Can you pm/email me the contact info? With the two dogs I need the inside room. I don't plan on going any bigger than 35" for quite awhile.

One question though, hows the underside angle work with a "hi-lift"? I looks like that it is only a few degrees, but I am just curious if you have tried that yet.

I will probably have the budget to get something like that after I move into the new house....

Did you move yet?

j

That weld-on hinge is what I was going to do, I saw them at the meatal supplier I use and thought it would be perfect. It had a grease fitting on it and everything. He's running the 35" MTRs right now so there'd be no problem. All I needed to figure out was the latch mechanism there.

Buuuuttttt nooooooo he drilled a couple holes in his floor and cobbled in a couple eye bolts to put a goddam bungie cord over it. :emb4: :rolleyes:

Ciocc,

The contact toll free number is 888-259-8676. Website that I build is www.durango4x4.com. It is not on there yet as it is still a prototype. The operation is small. The ordertaker there is the owner's wife. His name is George and if you need to ask any sort of tech question better ask me or possibly him.

The hi lift does not attach to the bumper it attaches horizontally behind the tire where the tailgate angles towards the front of the vehicle. The gerry can has a little bracket that bolts on to the arm of the tire carrier and it holds the inner lip of a U.S. spec gerry can. The top half of the gerry can is an "L" shaped bracket that fit over the handle and is held on by a 1/2" wing nut and bolt. For clarification it is similar to the Jeep gerry can mounting system pictured on the site.

Fear factory, sounds like he is lazy! Go make him buy you a case of :beer: (or two...or three) and help him out. Man bungee cord, I bet that thing rattles like non other. The hinge on my system allows me to really put a lot of weight on the tire carrier. I am still hesitant to stand on it ( I weigh 190ish), but I bet it would hold no problem. The latch is a de-stac-o. Most everyone already knows that, but they make all sorts of items (Grainger sells them). The production model rover bumpers will have the Durango 4x4 custom latch that makes the one I put on look like crap. It is not quite done yet.

Way

Here is a pic for 200TDI (AKA John D.).

"My kaymar rear bar with homemade wheel carrier. The carrier is a trailer stub axle (sticking up though) welded to the rear bar,
and a cut down trailer wheel hub with taper roller bearings. Real cheap and simple."

Looks great 200TDI! Thanks for the picture.
Way

Thanks for posting the pic adam.
Best thing about the wheel carrier, it cost me $5 bucks and half a day's work in the shed.

John D

Originally posted by Way
Ciocc,



The hi lift does not attach to the bumper it attaches horizontally behind the tire where the tailgate angles towards the front of the vehicle. The gerry can has a little bracket that bolts on to the arm of the tire carrier and it holds the inner lip of a U.S. spec gerry can. The top half of the gerry can is an "L" shaped bracket that fit over the handle and is held on by a 1/2" wing nut and bolt. For clarification it is similar to the Jeep gerry can mounting system pictured on the site.


Way

Way,
You mis-understood. I was talking about the angle of the underside of the bumper, in regards to "recovery" or "jacking" with a high lift on that bumper.

I am assuming that this would be made to order, and a slot or groove could be made.

j
:beer:

Adam,

Nice looking bumper. It looks like the underside is flat, so a hi-lift operation is no problem. Mind if I pick your brain a bit? What would you say the overall weight of the whole setup will be after the jerry can and stuff? I'm approximating somewhere near 270 lbs?

Jerry can with gas - 40 lbs
bumper with swingaway - 95
monster tire - 100
hi-lift - 35
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total 270 lbs

I assume you have monster spring rates for the rear of that beast! 'Cause the actual rotational force put on the spring is a bit more 270lbs due to the location of the weight from the centerline of the springs. Do you think an average off the shelf springs (from RT, SG, etc) will be able to handle this weight long term? Don't forget all of the other shiat that will go in the cargo area for a camping trip! Since the arse end of our rigs are already heavier than the front, how will this affect the "balance" of your rig? I know air bags inside coils might be a solution for those "heavy" times.

Thanks for humoring me.

Ali

Ciocc77,

I understand what you mean now. I have always used the inside of the hitch as a jack point whenever possible. The corners are flat and could also be used at a jack point. As far as the underside being flat, it is not. The first bend is a 90 degree (supposed to be anyways mine turned out to be only 85ish, but the production models will get some custom tooling to make the bend perfect). Slots could be put in for an extra reasonable fee. For that matter you could order it with two extra receivers towards the corners and they would make nice receiver shackle mounts as well as hi-lift spot. The second bend is 60 degrees I think. It angles down towards the gas tank. The three holes in the hitch picture are to attach the skid plate to.

alia176
I think that the weight would be a little heavier. A bead lock rim and a 35" tire would be damn heavy. I am guessing more than 100. The tire carrier is close to 45 lbs alone. The bumper weighs a lot being made of 1/4" plate. I am guessing 85lbs. My rear springs are 300-340 progressive and longer than most other Range Rover users. I think that with the heavy rear springs anyone would be just fine. I think that rancho 9000 on a firmer setting or custom valved shocks (like what I have) may help to keep it stable. Without the gerry can on (remember that I have a heavy roof rack, a sixth spare tire, a 4x4 box so heavy that two people can’t even lift it, and hi-lift on the back of that so I should be close to what a really loaded down vehicle would be like) my vehicle rides great. As far as balance goes, I think the tire carrier/bumper will not affect balance too negatively. I know my 12,000lb winch and ARB crappy bent bumper weigh a lot. (Engine adds some weight to the front also) They stick away from the vehicle quite a bit and also act as a fulcrum effect (what you were describing). The skid plate will have a logo or possibly holes cut out of it to lighten it. I personally don't want to mess with air bags at all. Sounds like to big of a PITA. I suggest that out of all of the vendors to go with Rovertym. SG and OME are not a heavy spring rate and if I recall correctly they are not prgressive, they are linear.

Way

bumper looks fawking awesome adam. i think that the 33" looks great up there, but youre right a 37 would look better :D

how much is durango planning on selling them for? i think that the rovertym rear is a good deal compared to what else is out there, and that thing is one hell of a stout bumper.

Wow, haven't checked the Rovertym site in a while. Didn't know thay had a rear bumper now. Looks as if it sticks out quite a bit. Also I am not sure why he opted to keep the factory receiver hitch. That was the first thing to go on mine. The new hitch actually sits on the top of the old receiver hitch (yielding 2" more ground clearance). Figured having it mount on the top plate would help if the hitch took a direct hit and the force would in effect try to make the hitch rotate (not likely as it protrudes about 1/2"). The plate underneith is overkill, but figured it would be good to do to be on the safe side. I got a good look at Penrose the otherday. Damn almost as tuff as Farmington if not tuffer! I want this thing to be overkill built for that trail for sure!!!

Right now the bumper will most likely go in the ballpark of $699 (Discount of $100 for POR members has been discussed and if it is not below cost will be issued for first ten to buy. Most likely it will come with side plates also and of course all of them are built to later accept tire carrier). It has a true receiver hitch and some burly brackets. The bumper looks good without the tire carrier, but the tire carrier will most likely be a modular unit. ($399) Meaning that you can buy the bumper now and when you get rid of the 31" tires and get 33" tires that no longer fit inside, you can then buy the tire carrier. The hi-lift jack holder and gerry can holder will be in the $149 ballpark. Not sure on the skid plate as no other Durango 4x4 product has them.

These prices are based on the Cherokee one that has already been designed and is in full production. Prices may be cheaper and may be slightly higher. Who knows it is a prototype now. However orders can be taken for when the come out.
http://www.durango4x4.com/imagesway/newxjrearwithtc.jpg
and this is how the g-can/hi-lift will look
http://www.durango4x4.com/imagesway/xjopen.jpg

Again this thing will be modular meaning everything is bolt on and can be added on later. A mountain basket can be added if somone wants along with all of the other accessories that DGO makes. http://www.durango4x4.com/imagesway/mountainrackbase.jpg

Way

P.S. If anyone has some feedback on the design or things that they think it should have, now is the time to speak. Making changes to the design now is easy.

one design that i would add in is a modular Powertank carrier. maybe a work light mount too? how about a BBQ grill? :D

I'll definately pass on the info less the bbq. Hell might as well have a built in blender attachment in the bumper. This way when you bring all of those 11 year olds in your shaggin wagon ambulance you can get their consent...sort of.

Way:flipoff2:

Way,
The bumper looks great but I've got a couple of questions. How does the bumper attach to the frame? I looked at the photo's but couldn't figure it out. Does it use the two holes on the frame horn aft of the crossmember?
Thanks,
Mike
:usa:

Don't have to many pictures of the underside yet. But here is what I have.

Basically the bumper utilizes the stock mounting way. The bumper rests on the top of the rear frame horns pieces. Two holes on top of the old receiver hitch are used to mount a plate on the inside of the dgo4x4 bumper to. A strap on the inside of the bumper (3/4" thick) attach to the side hole of the frame horn piece.

Since I will have a skid plate on the bottom, that will further increase the number of mounting spots. For people that do not order the skid plate additional braces going to the frame will be made. These will attach to the three holes in the bumper below the giant hand holes visible in one of the pictures above.

The side plates will bolt onto the bumper ends. An additional support strap will go down to the frame from the side plate.

Hope that explains it a little better. Let me know if you need clarification.

Way

This is what the inside of the hitch looks like. Two 1/2" bolts (all hardware comes with bumper) secure this to the top of the old receiver hitch.

Whree this strap bolts to is this

i like the original style rovertym one (john has since changed the design) where you cut off the original brakets and weld on a big piece of 1/2" plate that runs the width of the truck (and could almost be used as a bumper on its own). then, with 4 larger bolts, the main bumper bolts to this welded on piece. this does not take into account the places where the bumper bolts to the body at the rear of the wheel wells.

i am very confident in the design of the RT rear bumper and have therefore put it through some nasty hits and come out without damage.

i would take pics but the bumper is on the truck which is at the garage right now :D

Way,
Thanks for clarifying the mounting. I've never trusted the factory mounting tabs and have added additional mounting points as you did. I added two braces down to the factory recovery points (3/8s plate) and used two bolts through the frame horns. Also removed the mounting tabs. I'll send you a couple of photos, feel free to post them if you want.
Mike Pado
:usa:

Mike,

Great bumper. Thanks for sending them to me. Here they are for the list to see,

Way

Mike Pado pic 2

pic 3

final pic

anybody know where i can get a bearing hinge like that for my tire carrier....

Originally posted by jlittle
anybody know where i can get a bearing hinge like that for my tire carrier....

http://www.rockstomper.com/catalog/pieces/hinge.htm

before a little paint
http://forum.neow.net/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=379866
another view
http://forum.neow.net/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=379867
semi finished still plenty of work to do on the tailgate
http://forum.neow.net/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=379868
My camera stinks.

Anyways....the previous owner said he built this bumper....but it seems to look a little like the rovertym one. The only abuse it hasn't dealt well with is the salt.